/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11508726]

>brah just be kind to people who treat you like shit. They can't really do you any actual harm and besides they can't really help themselves.
Yet he writes that doing others Ill is sinning against Universal Nature and makes the person doing it evil. Also human life is just a blink of an eye in eternity. So how about instead of being kind to assholes even if they be your fellow man you just kill them so their useless retard monkey nigger bodies return to Universal Nature™ and hopefully become something useful like oh idunno, dirt?

[Anonymous No.11508731]

aurelius was a crybaby and his mediations were basically the prototype of "my diary desu"

[Anonymous No.11508743]

>>11508731
Recommend me a better book on stoic philosophy pls. This shit is really interesting because the dude was an emperor but he just keeps repeating the same poorly thought out points.

[Anonymous No.11508747]

>>11508726
This is why Chadstotle is superior, no cuckphilosophy. It’s not a coincidence that all the Cuckics hang out on Reddit.

[Anonymous No.11508761]

>>11508726
>Gladiator Chad can impregnate my wife, but he can't cause harm to my virtue

[Anonymous No.11508765]

You think he would’ve written a better book if he knew it would be published and shared in the future?

[Anonymous No.11508770]

>>11508765
Nah, if he knew it was going to be read he would have written some completely forgettable garbage poetry that mimicked whatever tropes or techniques were fashionable at the time. Meditations is babby tier, but it's mostly readable.

[Anonymous No.11508771]

>>11508743
stoicism is a crybaby philosophy, im afraid it doesnt get much better with other authors in this genre. try platonism, neoplatonism, scholasticism, pythagoreanism, presocratics, etc

[Anonymous No.11508775]

>>11508726
He was just writing fragments of ideas, sentences that helped him keep the stoic philosophy in his life full of illnesses, death and retards around. Why do you care? He didnt write something with the intention that some faggot more than thousand of years ahead in time would appreciate. The fuck you want?

[Anonymous No.11508779]

>>11508771
Yeah will do. Whenever I read Plato I can't help but audibly go 'Yep, based and redpilled' like every 5 pages

[Anonymous No.11508804]

>>11508726
Seneca somewhere says, hit the one who hurt you, but hit him like you would hit a child - only to make him learn, without harming him because he's just an ignorant idiot.

[Anonymous No.11508824]

>>11508804
*commits suicide in a bathtub*

[Anonymous No.11508870]

>>11508779
>he actually thinks irl with memes
the absolute state of our youth

[Anonymous No.11508882]

easy to say when you're an emperor aurelius...

[Anonymous No.11508891]

>>11508779
That's pretty sad.

[Anonymous No.11508896]

>>11508731
no one takes you seriously when you talk like that

[Anonymous No.11508920]

>>11508726
Can I get an actual quote?

[Anonymous No.11508924]

>>11508920
Something something everything is worthless because what was yesterday a speck of semen is today a mummy or ashes

[Anonymous No.11508979]

>>11508882
Considering he was addressing himself, this is irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.11509015]

>>11508779
Stick to the stoics

[Anonymous No.11509102]

>>11509015
Y thou?

[Anonymous No.11509129]

>>11509102
Because you seem like you’d identify more with them until you’re alpha enough to read the Greeks and actually derive something meaningful from then rather than having a subconscious 4chan replying thought process running in the back of your near-vacuous head

[Anonymous No.11509199]

>>11508775
This thread shouldn't have had to end with this post, but it's so shit that it should've ended with this post.

[Anonymous No.11509596]

>>11509129
At least I don't attempt to appear smarter than I really am on a Taiwanese basket weaving forum.

[Anonymous No.11509628]

>>11508743
the enchiridion
daodejing
Halo: The Fall of Reach

[Anonymous No.11509658]

>>11509628
a brother in culture i suppose.

[Anonymous No.11509810]

>>11508896
>no one takes you seriously on 4chan
Oh the horror!

[Anonymous No.11510039]

>>11508731
"my diary desu" is kind of different when you run the empire of Rome and aren't a basement-dwelling fedora

[Anonymous No.11510378]

>>11509596
>Taiwanese basket weaving forum
At least I know where I am. That's down the hallway to the left. This is the Malaysian spider silk spinning conference.

[Anonymous No.11510399]

>>11508726

That they managed to injure you is one thing; why compound the evil done to your person by letting them disturb your mind; much less allowing them compel your actions away from what you know is virtuous?

Why would give evil person a triple victory when it is in you power to reduce it to nothing by holding fast to your own philosophies?

Also, so much of that book is about getting on and doing things. The misconception is it's about being passive.

>In he morning when thou risest unwillingly, let this thought be present- I am rising to the work of a human being. Why then am I dissatisfied if I am going to do the things for which I exist and for which I was brought into the world? Or have I been made for this, to lie in the bed-clothes and keep myself warm?- But this is more pleasant.- Dost thou exist then to take thy pleasure, and not at all for action or exertion? Dost thou not see the little plants, the little birds, the ants, the spiders, the bees working together to put in order their several parts of the universe? And art thou unwilling to do the work of a human being, and dost thou not make haste to do that which is according to thy nature?- But it is necessary to take rest also.- It is necessary: however nature has fixed bounds to this too: she has fixed bounds both to eating and drinking, and yet thou goest beyond these bounds, beyond what is sufficient; yet in thy acts it is not so, but thou stoppest short of what thou canst do. So thou lovest not thyself, for if thou didst, thou wouldst love thy nature and her will. But those who love their several arts exhaust themselves in working at them unwashed and without food; but thou valuest thy own own nature less than the turner values the turning art, or the dancer the dancing art, or the lover of money values his money, or the vainglorious man his little glory. And such men, when they have a violent affection to a thing, choose neither to eat nor to sleep rather than to perfect the things which they care for. But are the acts which concern society more vile in thy eyes and less worthy of thy labour?

[Anonymous No.11510402]

>>11509810
still though why not just talk like a normal person

[Anonymous No.11510418]

>>11508882
He got his views from Epictetus, who was a slave

[Anonymous No.11510422]

>>11508779

[Anonymous No.11510438]

>>11508726
Aurelius absolutely understood the necessity of discipline. He basically argued to remain calm in the face of injustice in order to come to a rational decision with regards to how to deal with that injustice. He was an autist, not a cuck.

[Anonymous No.11510721]

>>11510438
marcus aurelius was literally a cuck

[Anonymous No.11510906]

dude other people don't matter lol jsut do what you want

[Anonymous No.11511214]

>>11508731
>spend years living in a tent fighting guerrilla war
>"my diary desu"

[Anonymous No.11511219]

>>11508743
Epicetus's Discourses is much better. I don't know why Meditations is the "go to", it's such a meme book.

[Anonymous No.11511227]

>>11511219
>I don't know why people would want to read an emperors autobiography

[Anonymous No.11511238]

>>11508743
Letters from a stoic (dont get the shit penguin one)
Epictetus discourses

[Anonymous No.11511316]

>>11511238
>dont get the shit penguin one
fuck

[Anonymous No.11511323]

>>11511316
Always get Loeb for Latin or Greek, that way once you learn the language, you'll have that too. It's also really useful for checking the odd word or sentence for clarity. They look fucking great too.

[Anonymous No.11511335]

>>11508726
>I can't grasp any philosophy that does not encourage killing niggers
lmao

[Anonymous No.11511337]

>>11508779
Unironically redpilled

[Anonymous No.11511762]

>>11509596
Yikes that projecting.

[Anonymous No.11512531]

>>11510721
that's just a historical meme, not necessarily true

[Anonymous No.11512652]

The teachings of Yoga are quite similar to Stoicism. I think the main reason why everyone in interested in these philosophies is that they advocate relaxing more. With the internet and the amount of information the modern person has to process in one day, anything that gives them an excuse to take a break while feeling like they've attained some level of sainthood and satisfaction is welcomed.

[Anonymous No.11512779]

>>11512652
if you just want to relax more then catholicism is your man

[Anonymous No.11512818]

>>11508726
>Christianity 0.2
Gotta give him credit for trying.

[Anonymous No.11513423]

>>11508726
I just realize I couldn't explain the ideas clearly even though I understand what he meant by that.