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QTDDTOT Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:44:27 2018 No.11507384 [Reply] [Original]

Questions that don't deserve their own thread.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:46:40 2018 No.11507393 What are some good educational texts written before 1900?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:51:31 2018 No.11507416
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Does anyone have this hardback of Blood Meridian? I recently bought a modern library complete poems of Keats and it's quarter-cloth with perfect binding, I thought it would be full cloth and sewn. Did they drop the ball lately or what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:55:10 2018 No.11507426 >>11507393 at least Rousseau's Emile. it's quite difficult to read (sometimes too long on minor questions, sometimes very deep philosophically speaking) - but it has had some great influence and it's still interesting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 10:37:14 2018 No.11507574 Heard Fagles was a good translation for Homer, but is his Aeneid just as good?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 10:57:34 2018 No.11507668 >>11507384 what's the essential secondary lit on plato? i already have being and logos by sallis.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:23:50 2018 No.11507769 File: 20 KB, 410x410, pepe mage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11507668 the enneads by plotinus

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:38:15 2018 No.11508234 what book should i read as a first book on my journey to /lit/ ascension t. giga-brainlet from /sp/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:39:28 2018 No.11508239 >>11508234 Siddhartha by Herman Hesse

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:40:31 2018 No.11508244 File: 20 KB, 332x499, 41AgzDPEz9L._SX330_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11508234

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:43:06 2018 No.11508266 Best way to avoid rancid ball smell? I shower and wear new underwear but my balls at the end of the day still reak.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:43:18 2018 No.11508267

Anybody read an obscure Sci-Fi gem lately? Looking for a read while i'm on a train to my holiday destination

>>11508234

Literally check the wiki and find something that sounds good. Also, whilst the Greeks make for tremendous reads, don't be pushed into reading them if you're only going to read a few books a year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:46:23 2018 No.11508284 >>11508267 well the wiki recommends things like brave new world which is fucking gay

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:47:25 2018 No.11508288
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>>11507416
Can someone answer whether these new ModLibs are all just dogshit?
I wanted to get their Freud and City of God too but it seems like they're trash. Anon lied to me, I saw Modern Library on a list of BASED publishers and assumed it's good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:49:17 2018 No.11508298 >>11508234 Don't just ask people what to read, stick around until you find something that attracts or interests you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:49:47 2018 No.11508302 File: 10 KB, 206x195, 1414513383326.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11508284 >huge fucking list >picks brave new world >fucking gay even though you've probably read it You are beyond saving.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:54:46 2018 No.11508324

>>11508298
finding things that interest me is exactly the thing i'm trying to do

>>11508302
was referring specifically to the starter kit which contains 20 titles. have read brave new world and was not very impressed with it, also don't think it's a good starting book. it just makes my feel like it's a meme list that just lists a bunch of classics. also funny how it contains brave new world and 1984 which are le ebin dystopia because 4chan is full of edgy faggots.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:00:28 2018 No.11508354

>>11508324

>disliking BNW and 1984

Regardless of 4chan and libshits in the US espousing it as a manual of sorts for Trump's administration, they are objectively great book.

But okay faggot i'll bite. What kind of books do you *think* you would enjoy? Theme/length/country et cetera

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:02:08 2018 No.11508363

>>11508324
>exactly the thing i'm trying to do
no it's not you fucking kike, you want someone to hand you a book you're going to like on a silver platter. fuck off
>le ebin dystopia because 4chan is full of edgy faggots
no, they're just well known and well liked easy books. kill yourself

brave new world is shit though.
maybe try reading something modern like Murakami to start with, or just plunge into a great classic like Moby-Dick - then if you don't like it you'll know it's your fault for being a brainlet

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:07:16 2018 No.11508385 >>11507574 >Fagles >good Try Fitzgerald my man. His Aeneid is sublime. >>11507668 Enneads if you're interested in metaphysics. Aristotle is boss though. I dunno about companion texts, probably the Cambridge is good.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:08:14 2018 No.11508392

>>11508354
thanks mate! first of all i want something to "whet my appetite". maybe around 400 pages long would be optimal.
as for theme, i'm not quite sure. i used to like fantasy when i was younger but realized how astronomically gay that was so now i want to avoid it. i think that being constantly interesting is more important since i may doze off as i'm reading it. i feel like something on the surreal side would be interesting for me.
would prefer something written originally written in english.

>>11508363
thanks for the tip, i'll check it out! even though you were being a dick about it but i can't really hold that against you.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:12:32 2018 No.11508408
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>>11508392

In that case go for pic related. Basically a bloke dies and wakes up again as his 19 y/o self. As the book progresses the timespans become shorter and the book basically asks fundemental questions about life, the lapse of time and the contigency of love. It's 320 pages, written like a charm and originally in English and is a great 'soft' sci-fi book (so no aliens and shit). Plus, it's only a tenner and not on /lit/'s list.

There. Now stop shitposting and start reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:14:23 2018 No.11508421 >>11508392 >i used to like fantasy when i was younger but realized how astronomically gay that was Tolkien and Gene Wolfe aren't gay, if you haven't read them. There's also Lord Dunsany, T. H. White, E. R. Eddison

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:16:33 2018 No.11508431 >>11508408 you're a good lad >>11508421 right, might have just read the wrong types of fantasy. could check it out again in the future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:18:29 2018 No.11508445 When studying Hinduism should I read the bhagavad Gita or the upanishads first?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:26:49 2018 No.11508485

>>11508431
>could check it out again in the future.
You should if you've only read some mediocre stock fantasy books. Not everyone has an interest in fantasy so if you do then you should capitalize on that and enjoy yourself, those writers I listed are genuinely good.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:41:56 2018 No.11509595 >>11507416 I ordered it because it costs the same as the paperback on amazon, just going to hope it's not perfect binding. I guess a perfect bound hardcover is still a little better than a paperback

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:46:18 2018 No.11509610 What is Suttree going to say when he starts "I won't-" after getting out of the car at his estranged wife's place? What essays or monographs can I read to get a better understanding of the Book of Revelations?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:20:41 2018 No.11509774 >>11508234 Start with the Greeks.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:27:52 2018 No.11509801

Give me all your good German children's books for learning german.

Also: I want to start my book Chapter One and underneath: Set to the tune of "Found out About You" by the Gin Blossoms, "Elderly Woman Behind A Counter in a Small Town" by Pearl Jam, and, for a second at the end, "Smooth Criminal" by Michael Jackson. Do any of you know if this this is okay if I end the first chapter with: "Is 'Annie' okay?"

Also: when does meditating kick in as being beneficial, in your experience?

>>11508234
Watership Down, Meditations by Aurelius, any of Steinbeck's more known works, Stoner by John Williams are all great entries. Since you're from /sp/ read the first chapter of Rabbit, Run by Updike and perhaps go with that. You'll love it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:30:14 2018 No.11509813 how do i find a lit gf

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:40:45 2018 No.11509856 >>11508421 >Lord Dunsany >not calling him by his magnificent full name, Edward John Moreton Drax Plunkett, 18th Baron of Dunsany

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:41:33 2018 No.11509864 File: 1.09 MB, 500x375, 1411735776112.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11509813 You don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:24:34 2018 No.11510016 File: 315 KB, 1200x1200, confucius-9254926-2-402.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where do I start with this fella? Analects?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:27:35 2018 No.11510033

>>11510016
You could do that. Make sure to get an annotated edition, because the Analects is full of names of Chinese lords and nobles and it can get a tad bit confusing, even if it's not always about who did it but who did WHAT.
Then you could also try the Book of Odes, but Analects is the main one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:29:11 2018 No.11510040 >>11510033 Thanks, would Oxford World Classics be alright? Or Everyman's? I'm skint

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:30:49 2018 No.11510044

How do I find the motivation to do anything? I can't bring myself to get out of bed and there's a laundry list of things I need to get done but even when I have free time there's no motivation to even take part in life. Not even in a depressing suicidal way but in a lethargic lazy way. I'm becoming the embodiment of sloth.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:36:07 2018 No.11510065

>>11510040
Beats me. I've read it in Hungarian.Twice, both existing translations.
Look up the translators' biographies and credentials and choose one for yourself. Dare I say look at some excerpts from the work. If the translation is the same, then I'd go with the Everyman since it's a nicer edition, but if you wanna be cheap you can get the Oxford one. Heck, just read both versions. It's a short book.
It might change your life.
Sorry that I can't give you an exact answer. Maybe I've read too much of the Master's words myself,heh.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:36:26 2018 No.11510066

>>11510044
Baby steps pal. Say you learn an instrument. You should set a goal of practising four times a day every day. If you get lazy and don't manage it, don't be to hard on yourself, just try and do it tomorrow. When you can do this easily with only the occasional slip up maybe start up an exercise routine, and so on and so on until your days are full.
I think it helps to go easy, to not punish yourself for failing at certain puts and too not overload yourself with too may tasks at one in the beginning

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:39:18 2018 No.11510082 >>11510044 Liquids. Whenever I want to concentrate I drink liquids. Usually tea. Litres of it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:41:23 2018 No.11510088 >>11510065 Thank you anon. It seems that I can get a copy of the Everyman one for cheaper than the OWC, and the translator seems to be very acclaimed, so I'll go for that

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:46:07 2018 No.11510117

>>11510088
You know, it's a philosophical work. We are going for meaning, not subjective beauty.
You have it easier, I usually have to check if the stuffs even translated from the Chinese and not some intermediary language. At least when I buy stuff locally.
Actually reading Confucius really puts the poseur Facebook posts that use his name into a new perspective. Whenever someone "quotes" him, I think back, "was this in the analects, or is this just Wester fell good stuff?"
Immensely worthwhile.
Mencius is fun too, but Zhuangzhi takes the cake. With that it's really like reading an actually short story collection and not just a random collection of exemplary texts meant to convince you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:47:51 2018 No.11510122 File: 225 KB, 1036x1200, 1480760363854.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11510088 Why is Everyman's Library so based?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:54:03 2018 No.11510149

>>11510117
I'll be honest and say I've not much knowledge of Chinese literature or philosophy and this will be my first experience with it. I've only been reading seriously for a short while and thought it might be a good thing to take a break from the Greeks and try something else.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:57:52 2018 No.11510165

What should I read if I want to understand Giordano Bruno's work on transmutation and hermeticism? I know of Bruno and the Hermetic Tradition, but is it necessary to be familiar with Bruno's work beforehand to read it, and is there better stuff to be read by Bruno himself?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:58:17 2018 No.11510166 >>11510149 I've read it after the Dao de Jing. I'd say it's a pretty light read, but definitely worth rereading. Don't forget the commentaries and the essays that accompany it. And have fun while doing so.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:03:21 2018 No.11510181
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Anyone read this translation or know any scholarly opinions on it? I just started reading it ("The Clouds") and it's very funny, but it is without a doing the most casual ancient Greek translation I've ever read (moreso than Fagles' Sophocles/Iliad, Fitzgerald's Odyssey, Roche's Euripedes, etc). I know the translators are renowned, especially Lattimore, but it seems like this work could have been written today.

Should I even care? Or is this the power of Aristophanes?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:07:22 2018 No.11510190 >>11507384 I'm about to graduate with an English degree and still can't write an essay worth shit. How do I learn to write a decent essay?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:10:59 2018 No.11510204 >>11510190 Anon surely this is a skill you should have learned ten years ago

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:11:38 2018 No.11510209

Has anyone read The Ghost in the Machine by Arthur Koestler? I stumbled across it in my colleges library and read a few pages, it seemed like it could be interesting but I'm curious what /lit/ thinks before I buy it (yeah, I understand how retarded caring what /lit/ thinks is)

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:16:54 2018 No.11510227 File: 91 KB, 999x800, 1530443120086.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11510190 1. thingk on subbject 2. hab gud thots 3. writtem down

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:29:52 2018 No.11510261 File: 12 KB, 262x400, images (8).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What am I in for /lit/

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:30:48 2018 No.11510263 >>11510204 Well I fucken didn't, anon >>11510227 I have no good thoughts, and I can't write the ones I have down. What do

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:40:27 2018 No.11510280 >>11508288 I have that edition of Freud, it's not terrible, very handy reference book at the very least

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:50:59 2018 No.11510307 >>11510280 It's perfect binding though isn't it

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:52:10 2018 No.11510310 >>11510263 >What do kill self

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:04:20 2018 No.11510341 >>11510310 Yeah that's been the plan for a while

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:32:13 2018 No.11510421 >>11510165 Someone please respond

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:34:18 2018 No.11510427 >>11510341 see, you do have some good thoughts

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 04:54:41 2018 No.11511347 bump

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 04:59:12 2018 No.11511351 >>11510165 I found Franz Bardon's "Initiation into Hermetics" a lot easier going. Also, you'll get the best understanding if you make yourself familiar with the primary (religious) sources.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:02:56 2018 No.11511355 >>11507668 Parmenides "On Nature" Heraclitus "On Nature" Plato's entire metaphysics is formed by trying to reconcile the two. Also, I'd say that to really appreciate his dialogues, you should read Homer and Hesiod first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:06:00 2018 No.11511361 It feels weird to have a huge Complete Works of Plato. Is there a good list of individual stuff I could go through?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:06:48 2018 No.11511362 >>11511361 read it all scrub

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:09:01 2018 No.11511368 File: 280 KB, 480x360, Huge-book.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11511362 That's not the issue. I want to read all of it. I only have a limited amount of time to read so I don't want to be lugging this tome around.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:09:46 2018 No.11511370 >>11511361 It's common to start with Euthyphro, Phaedo, Crito and Apology

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:19:45 2018 No.11511389 File: 1.69 MB, 4032x3024, plato.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11511370 I got this. But I'm going to be in Greece for the next 3ish weeks. What's next?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:22:11 2018 No.11511391 >>11511370 Is it just The Republic next?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:26:11 2018 No.11511401 >>11508445 Upanishads >>11510040 Watson >>11511361 >>11511389 >>11511391 Euthyphro, Apology, Phaedo, Crito, Symposium, Phaedrus, Meno, Republic, Timaeus

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:29:28 2018 No.11511410 >>11511401 Ty anon

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 06:12:36 2018 No.11511516

>>11510181
i've read the complete aristophanes by roche and from what i can glean from footnotes etc the guy wrote in a very slangy, pun-filled, neologism-heavy way occasional whiplash-inducing switches between common vulgarity and old-timey pseudo-homeric style. it seems appropriate to translate into casual, modern english. for example, have you gotten to the part in clouds where the personifications of right and wrong argue? at the end of that scene they keep referring to politicians, actors and finally the whole audience with a slang term that means literally "wide ass", as in a passive homosexual with a stretched out asshole. roche translates it as "the buggered", preserving notion of passivity, but other modern translations i've looked at just go with "faggot". it's funny to look at old translations and how they avoid acknowledging what the scene is actually about by changing it to "adulterer" or something.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 06:59:41 2018 No.11511625 >>11508266 Talcum powder

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:23:19 2018 No.11511673 >>11507384 What are the best books or methods for increasing my vocabulary?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:27:03 2018 No.11511686

>>11507384
Finna boutta finish the Odyssey today. What is next in line after Homer? Alternatively, are there any other stories like Odyssey? I mean in the effect of its diversity of locations and episodes and antagonists. It is such a colorful adventure I want more like it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:28:13 2018 No.11511689 >>11509801 >good German children's books for learning german. I enjoyed 'Momo' and 'Die Unendliche Geschichte' by Michael Ende and 'Krabat' by Otfried Preussler when I was learning German.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:37:14 2018 No.11511705 >>11511686 You can just read some fantasy if you want a colorful adventure >>11508421 >What is next in line after Homer? Hesiod and the great playwrights, I reckon. I'm reading the Theogony now and it's neat.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:47:22 2018 No.11511725

I have to do a 18 hour drive over the next two days. Alone. Minimal stops except for rest, in what is basically fucking desert.

What audiobook should I listen to while driving? Do the Greeks make for good audiobooks? I was also thinking of Heart Of Darkness as an option.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:49:53 2018 No.11511733

>>11511705
Post some fantasy that isn't genre fiction besides LOTR. Although I meant in the line of Greeks/Romans. For example and this isn't an EXACT analogue, but Ovid's Metamorphoses is another thing that is sort of to my fancy in some ways similar, some ways dissimilar, that Odyssey captivates me.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:54:14 2018 No.11511748 >>11511686 the aeneid? argonautica? and for diversity of episodes - maybe the arabian nights?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:54:45 2018 No.11511749 When writing a novel, are there any topics that are completely off limits? For example a child being murdered or paedophilia etc topics like that

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:56:05 2018 No.11511751 >>11511686 The Tale of Genji

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 07:57:11 2018 No.11511755 >>11511748 I've been planning to pick up Arabian Nights for some time. I'll look at the other two mentions though.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:04:26 2018 No.11511780

How wide is your bench press grip? Mine is currently with ringfingers at the ring, but I'm thinking that's too wide. I experience some wrist pain but only at the side of the my thumb, so I think a too wide grip might be the cause. It's just so hard to tell if my forearms are straight once I'm underneath that bench, do you guys have any (visual) cues that you use?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:05:33 2018 No.11511787 >>11511780 Fuck I'm retarded, l and f just look too similar.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:09:04 2018 No.11511797 >>11511749 no limits are for inferior media and people

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:11:43 2018 No.11511803 >>11511749 nobody cares anymore.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:16:54 2018 No.11511822 >>11511749 The JQ is off limits.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:17:58 2018 No.11511827 >>115073 Is Wattpad worthwhile? It looks fucking horrendous but I know nothing about it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:23:34 2018 No.11511840 File: 44 KB, 621x414, meinkampf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11511822 sure pal

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:25:06 2018 No.11511846
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A question concerning poetry. Must I learn a verse by heart to comprehend it? I think I miss important details by merely reading poetry, and rhymes itself (imo the most important part) will soon be forgotten

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:32:29 2018 No.11511863 >>11511840 Go ahead and try pitching The Protocols to a modern Jewish publisher. You won't get far. The JQ has been made off limits BECAUSE OF pic related.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:34:58 2018 No.11511869

>>11511846
>Must I learn a verse by heart to comprehend it?
To truly comprehend it, probably. But I also don't think it's helpful to forcefully memorize a poem that doesn't move you immediately, I don't think that would help you like it more. I've learned the poems I've learned because they immediately spoke to me and because I love reciting them, and my appreciation for them has grew over time, but you don't need to fully comprehend something to like it, just reading and basically understanding it should be enough.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:55:17 2018 No.11511935

>>11511863
the biggest book seller in the world is amazon and i could order the protocols from them with a single click. multiple different editions, kindle or physical, including ones where the introduction argues that the text is not a forgery. there is a little note on the page that amazon "does not endorse" the protocols but they still sell them. is that really "off-limits" to you?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:57:57 2018 No.11511941

>>11511935
You could not write the Protocols today and find a publisher for it. It's currently published because of legacy. But you know what, go ahead, write your Jewish criticism period piece and find a publisher for it. Trust me I'll be your first preorder when you do. But vanity publishers/CreateSpace-tier shit doesn't count.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:06:15 2018 No.11511971

This might be worth making a thread, but here goes.
I am an ESL, 4chan was one of my main vehicles for practicing english, the problem is that I have been mostly writing in the form of short dialogues, which has had a negative impact on the way I write the essays.

How do I fix it?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:07:07 2018 No.11511979

>>11511941
>But you know what, go ahead, write your Jewish criticism period piece and find a publisher for it.

The Culture of Critique: An Evolutionary Analysis of Jewish Involvement in Twentieth-Century Intellectual and Political Movements

by Kevin MacDonald

The Kindle edition is an expanded version of the 2002 paperback edition, including significant expansions of the material on Jews and the left, the New York Intellectuals, and Neoconservatism. The basic method remains the same: It discusses influential intellectual and political movements that have been spearheaded by people who strongly identified as Jews and who viewed their involvement in these movements as serving Jewish interests.

Publication Date: February 2, 2013
Sold by: Amazon Digital Services LLC

$9.83

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:09:36 2018 No.11511987 >>11511971 Read more Anglo stuff such as the usual suspects like Shakespeare and Milton

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:28:39 2018 No.11512085 >>11511797 >>11511803 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:29:14 2018 No.11512088 >>11511979 >2002 paperback Legacy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:32:16 2018 No.11512100 >>11511987 Thanks, I would have expected to hear Hemingway but I guess I'll go for it, maybe Milton first, he seemed more accessible when I looked at it, I am afraid I won't be able to appreciate Shake.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:39:39 2018 No.11512127
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>>11507384
I just finished "The Cuchullin saga in Irish literature" by Eleanor Hull and she keeps watering down interesting passages: "These translations being easily accessible, we have not thought it necessary to reproduce the whole of the section, but it should be read by all students of Irish romantic literature." What the fuck? Is there a more comprehensive English translation out there that doesn't cut out all the lays and descriptions? I really enjoy the peculiar style of these ancient Celtic romances.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:46:59 2018 No.11512151 >>11512100 to me Paradise Lost is much more difficult to read than Shakespeare's plays

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:58:15 2018 No.11512179

>>11512088
nope, the defense that it's an important historical document holds for mk and the protocols, but a book from 2002 republished with new material in 2013 is a contemporary work. there's also no "amazon does not endorse this, but it's important historically" warning like on the actual "legacy" antisemitic material. it's just a book, nobody cares. it can't be "off-limits" if the biggest book seller in the world is approving a new expanded edition in 2013.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:58:58 2018 No.11512182 >>11512100 Shakespeare is infinitely more accessible than Milton. Milton is a difficult writer to understand at times - more so than Shakespeare especially, who is quite easy to understand.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:08:44 2018 No.11512214 >>11509801 erich kästner. great author, wrote some childrens books aswell that still are worth reading

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:14:40 2018 No.11512232

>>11512100
By all means if you want to read 20th century literature before older stuff with the thees and the thous, go for it. The reason I recommend classic poets and playwrights is because of the rhetorical power you get to partake in once you're done wrestling with their language - besides, it feels like you're learning English again, because you are, it's a different English than the contemporary thing, you are effectively retraining your brain and paving the way for a different, more complete understanding.
I share the sentiment of the other anons and add that Shakespeare writes for an audience of plebs, unlike Milton, this being a reason why the former's easier than the latter.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:37:13 2018 No.11512324 Is it worth the hassle trying to improve my handwriting? The more I write, the shittier it is. I saw some of my texts from 10 years back, it was better in every way

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:51:02 2018 No.11512406

>>11510209
Koestler is great. Act of Creation is cool too, and so are Midwife Toad, Roots of Coincidence, etc. He won a Nobel for Darkness at Noon, he just got into all kinds of weird shit after the war.

He's no great towering mainstream philosopher by any means, but fun as fuck books and a very sharp mind.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:51:56 2018 No.11512650
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Does anyone know Jean-Patrice Manchette ? Check him out guys, it's full of guns and fun and left-wing irony. The short novel called "Fatale" manages to almost make you approve of feminism.

>>11512214
remember enjoying one of his books when I was 10

>>11512324
It is. You can never tell or even see if it's worse or better, but it's always worth improving.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:49:30 2018 No.11513298 Does anyone have that good Pynchon “reading order” picture I think it had some other recommendations on there aside from Pynchon.

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:58:18 2018 No.11513337 >>11507384 can i start reading Nietzsche after having read all of plato?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:03:54 2018 No.11513363 >>11513337 whoa whoa whoa who the hell let you read plato? you better list all the shit you read in preparation for plato or you're in real trouble mister.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:05:24 2018 No.11513371 >>11513363 why is that?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:09:11 2018 No.11513384 >>11513371 because i'm going to tell the chronology police that you were reading philosophers out of order.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:12:20 2018 No.11513399 >>11513384 but i thought plato was a good starting point for philosophy

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:17:58 2018 No.11513433 >>11513326 Thanks anon

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:21:42 2018 No.11513449 >>11513399 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:23:01 2018 No.11513456 In Dantes inferno canto ix towards the end, what did he mean by the hidden meaning?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:26:18 2018 No.11513475 >>11513449 i know of that but i just want to do it for fun and not as a life task

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:55:17 2018 No.11513600 >>11513475 Oh no it’s just that you asked if Plato was a good place to start. I think most people around here say Presocratics->Plato. Also some mythology stuff.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 16:05:02 2018 No.11513644
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I'm approaching 30 and I spent all of my 20's reading the classics and high brow literature, but recently I've been reading a lot of casual shit like Ellroy, Grisham and sci-fi and enjoying it immensely.
Anyone else experience this? Hard to pinpoint why, but maybe it is easier to embrace the simpler things as I get older. A few years ago I wouldn't touch Grisham with a 6 foot pole.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:40:32 2018 No.11514693 Like a month ago there was a thread about stories some anons found on a site dedicated to narrations of drug experiences. Anoyone out there remembers the site? I can't find the thread in the archives

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:43:34 2018 No.11514704 >>11511361 Buy the Ancient philosophy collection by Hackett.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:37:47 2018 No.11515090 >>11513644 this but im 20 :P

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:39:33 2018 No.11515095 >>11514693 https://erowid.org/experiences/

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:43:14 2018 No.11515102

How do I appreciate what the words I'm reading more. I'm essentially a 'for the plot' reader and I can recognised a well written paragraph but I often get frustrated with novels that spend pages meandering without advancing the plot. I think this affect my ability to remember what I've read. I loved Gravity's Rainbow, but I can't quote a single thing from it, and have forgetten a lot of the subtleties, for example.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:45:54 2018 No.11515115 Do writers read their own books after they publish them?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 00:37:15 2018 No.11515727 Are there any good online literature lectures. t. STEMfag who doesn't need anymore liberal art credits.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 02:01:42 2018 No.11515941 how do I measure body fat percentage?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:17:08 2018 No.11516875 >>11515102 reread

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:34:01 2018 No.11516935 >>11515115 Before, and they send copies to acquaintances >>11515727 Yale has free courses on YouTube on Old and New Testaments, Divine Comedy, Don Quixote, Milton, Introduction to Political Philosophy and more

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:08:22 2018 No.11517055 What's the one book you'd recommend to a philosophy booklet?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:09:10 2018 No.11517057 Does anyone sell a big box of bookmarks? I'd love to just buy a box filled with hundreds or even thousands of unique bookmarks. I could use a new bookmark with every book--reach in and pull one out at random.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:10:34 2018 No.11517062
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>>11515941

The best way is to do an under-water weighing. Your local science lair might have the necessary apparatus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:12:39 2018 No.11517066 >>11511361 You could start by reading those works of Plato that have gotten a Penguin or Oxford World Classic treatment.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:15:02 2018 No.11517077 >>11517062 This, just make sure you don't get a boner when you see your sister pretend to put her hair up.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:17:11 2018 No.11517087

>>11513363
Hamilton's Mythology
The Odyssey
Some plays of Aristophanes, Euripedes, and Sophocles
The Story of Philosophy

Honestly I should have started sooner, what a surprise that /lit/ overcomplicates something heavily. And starting with the pre-socratics isnt necessary in the slightest

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:18:24 2018 No.11517092 >>11517087 The pre-Socratics are hard to get into anyways. Best to return to them later.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:20:25 2018 No.11517101 >>11517087 >no iliad

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:26:11 2018 No.11517128

>>11517101
I read the Wikipedia on it. My used bookstore doesn't have any copies and I figured between Hamilton's book and Wikipedia I got enough information.

It is referenced by Plato much more often than the Odyssey though, I'm still planning on picking up that along with Herodotus' history book

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:28:24 2018 No.11517137 >>11517128 >My used bookstore doesn't have any copies Burn the city to the ground.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:31:45 2018 No.11517158
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>>11517128

You may find, when you eventually read it, that it wasn't quite what you thought it would be. Speaking for myself, I was very taken by the beautiful animal imagery, so serene and full of meaning. Epitomes can't do justice to it. Here's an example.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:33:58 2018 No.11517168

>>11517137
Yeah it's a big shame. The best bookstore in town just went out of business. Huge selection of fiction and nonfiction, great selection of classics, and damn cheap. Now I'm stuck with the one the high school kids use to buy their English books, much smaller and horrid selection.

The city just opened one next to the library though and while it has pretty much no books right now, what it does have is cheap so I got 5 of Folger's Shakespeare plays and a Nicomachean Ethics for $4.00. that basically wiped out their classics and philosophy sections though

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:42:38 2018 No.11517204 Anyone ever done comedy writing? Sitcom, stand-up, stuff like that. Would like to hear about the process a bit and how to get into it, any resources etc.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:44:42 2018 No.11517206 >>11517204 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKY6BGcx37k

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:58:17 2018 No.11517242 >>11515095 I recommend the reports on Datura and Salvia

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:51:07 2018 No.11517717 >>11511780 pinky is on the ring in my case, or sometimes even narrower, I tend to have a narrow grip in general, feels more comfortable to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:07:40 2018 No.11517803 How does Chomsky justify calling Lenin a right-winger? How does he define left and right? Seems very odd to me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:38:56 2018 No.11517929 Which publishing of Dune is best? A relative bought me one of those stupidly ornate copies that Barnes & Noble sells of their classic novels. Couldn't stand it, honestly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:48:06 2018 No.11517961 File: 197 KB, 860x1316, 336039_bd16577ed1dc469fb9e2c8f4f28db1f6.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11517929 People love the recent Folio edition, but it is prohibitively expensive for most. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yv4LQLuEt1E

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:44:42 2018 No.11518199 >>11515727 yale, as already mentioned, and you can pirate a shitton of the teaching company videos, just type "ttc" into pirate bay and there's a billion of the fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 15:06:35 2018 No.11518297 File: 64 KB, 385x306, alwayrembercunt.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where can I cop current magazines? Looking for stuff like the writer's chronicle.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 15:49:56 2018 No.11518511 >>11511361 which edition should i get?? amazon link or some link maybe??

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 15:57:15 2018 No.11518544 >>11518511 Which edition of what? The complete works? Individual works?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:01:10 2018 No.11518573 >>11518544 complete

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:09:54 2018 No.11518627 File: 190 KB, 1334x893, IMG_5693.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11518573 If you are buying new, Hackett's Complete Plato is what you want. (Seen here without dust jacket).

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:18:12 2018 No.11518667

>>11518627
I have this except my cover is smooth, like cloth dipped in some paint or something. The binding is solid, the paper quality is great, and I don't have any comparison as to the contents but it's clearly made with care and attention. Great edition from based Hackett, one of the best books I own

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:20:05 2018 No.11518674 Are Oxford's editions of Shakespeare worthwhile? It's cheap and I don't want to spend $10 more for Norton Critical.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:20:15 2018 No.11518675 >>11518667 It has very thin pages. That's about the only bad thing you could say about it. That said, the book is nearly 2000 pages. Thicker pages would have meant an unwieldy tome.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:21:51 2018 No.11518687 File: 414 KB, 1519x2325, 814VEIlzTtL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11518674 You should get the futuristic Pelican editions.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:24:11 2018 No.11518706 >>11518687 More like >CORNiolanus

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 16:56:13 2018 No.11518891 >>11515095 thanks bro

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 17:08:12 2018 No.11518941 >>11518687 Some of those covers are pretty aesthetic.

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>>11513456

The address to the reader (61-63) is arresting; most critics have assumed that the "meaning . . . hidden/beneath the veil that
covers my strange verses" refers to the preceding lines concerning the Furies and Medusa, but I believe that it refers to
the lines which follow, describing the arrival of the angel at the gates of Dis. In order to fully understand the context of
the address and the "meaning . . . hidden," it is necessary to compare the passage to its analogue in Purgatory VIII. There,
as here, Dante the Poet interrupts the narrative to tell the reader to search beneath the literal level for the figurative meaning.
If one accepts Inferno I as the introductory canto for the whole Divine Comedy, then Infemo IX is really the eighth canto dealing
with Hell and therefore occupies a position parallel to the eighth canto dealing with Purgatory. Moreover, as most critics
admit, the address to the reader in Purgatory VIII (again to direct his vision to the truth beneath a veil "which is now easy
to penetrate" [Purgatory VIII, 2o--2 1 ]) refers to the section that follows-and that concerns the advent of two angels at the
gates of Purgatory proper. The similarities of the passages are evident: an address to the reader and a description of the descent
and action of angels before the gates in Inner Hell and Purgatory proper, respectively.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 17:28:41 2018 No.11519012
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>>11518969
>>11513456
Alternatively,

This is the second verse to address the reader in the poem (the first begins in canto VIII: 94) and has puzzled commentators. Some readers of the poem believe he "mysterious verses" allude to the Furies and Medusa, previously mentioned in the canto. Medusa would thus represent some form of fear or despair. The Three Furies might suggest the three categories of sin punished in Hell. Other scholars believe the "mysterious verses" refer us forward to the angel that arrives at the Gates of Dis to clear the obstruction from the path of the Pilgrim and his guide. While commentators have not arrived at one single satisfying explanation of the lines, all modern interpreters of Dante agree that there are no secret doctrines concealed under the "veil" of Dante's poetry. Such notions were common in the ninteenth century: Some Rosicrucians, for example, believed that Dante's entire poem contained hidden doctrines that corresponded to their beliefs and even that Dante himself was a Rosicrucian.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 18:14:54 2018 No.11519196 What can I read as a good introduction to Kabbalah and Jewish mythology/demonology? Obviously in addition to the OT.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 18:18:40 2018 No.11519216 >>11508266 Shave your balls, unironically

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 18:58:50 2018 No.11519361 I want to pick up some Loeb volumes on Rhetoric, but I can't decide between Quintilian or Cicero. Which would be the better choice to learn writing/rhetoric from, and any specific volumes you can recommend?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 20:00:24 2018 No.11519614 File: 1.75 MB, 4032x3024, IMG_7319.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11517066 This is everything I was able to find. I'm going to be in Greece (totally coincidental) for the next 3.5 weeks so I hope I'm packing well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 20:03:54 2018 No.11519630 >>11519614 I bought Gorgias because it was $3. I can't find too much on it. Should I read it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 23:28:45 2018 No.11520433 >>11519630 Yeah. It's good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 23:32:37 2018 No.11520445 >>11520433 Just replying in case you know. Is there a good online source for essays and critiques on philosophical works?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 23:37:08 2018 No.11520460 Why can't fanfiction be posted on /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 23:38:48 2018 No.11520465 >>11520460 because the quality of posts is extremely important to this community and all fanfiction is garbage and belongs on >>>/trash/ with the furfuckers

Anonymous Thu Jul 26 00:22:32 2018 No.11520614

>>11520465
That isn't true, though I understand why you'd say that. The definition of fanfiction is both what makes it great and what makes it shit. There are some really well written works of fanfiction that almost no one knows about because of the stigmas around it.
>quality of posts is extremely important
Nigga, 30% of threads on this board are nothing but shitposts full of /pol/ and /r9k/ idiots and you know it.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 05:29:35 2018 No.11521456 >>11507416 >>11509595 Just got it and it's the same bullshit as the Keats, quarter-cloth beige color and perfect binding. The paper is acid-free but that's not much use when the glues dries and pages start falling out

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 05:40:33 2018 No.11521481 File: 46 KB, 312x475, 92d20344c0ba0a6e129a9884c5f11c0c.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are Tolkien's translations of medieval literature good?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 06:03:41 2018 No.11521525 Could someone in this thread recommend a German translation of the Iliad and the odyssey?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 09:48:56 2018 No.11522081 >>11520614 >There are some really well written works of fanfiction like what? inb4 fallout equestria

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 11:20:52 2018 No.11522344 >>11507384 Hey /Lit/erals, does anyone know of any decent books on the lives of Christian saints? Ta in advance

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 13:20:24 2018 No.11522740 >>11522344 Helen Waddell, The Desert Fathers

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 13:49:54 2018 No.11522838 >>11522344 We're /lit/eratis or /lit/izens, bucko. Get your /lit/lore straight

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 13:52:47 2018 No.11522843 >>11522838 Sorry, this is my first time on this board and was just stabbing in the dark.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 16:22:56 2018 No.11523427 >>11522081 Since you mentioned pony, maybe Background Pony? I'm relatively new to the genre but holy shit was that story good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:40:37 2018 No.11523754 >>11522843 lurk more

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 17:52:33 2018 No.11523813 >>11523754 He won't find anything aside from the Confessions by lurking here

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:11:43 2018 No.11524144 Why do so many people shill libgen around here? It's complete shit. I've tried to download several books but they all come as generic files that I can't open.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 26 19:15:04 2018 No.11524155 >>11524144 Are you looking at the file extensions before downloading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 00:13:34 2018 No.11525220 My friend recommended me to read "The Ambidextrous Universe" by Martin Gardner, is it any good? I've only read fantasy shit with some hints of interesting sudophilosophy.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 00:37:33 2018 No.11525293 Is there a site I can use to see which publication of a book is good and which is shut? I don't want to buy a classic book that's translated by a retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 00:40:59 2018 No.11525305 >>11519196 I'm interested in this too

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 00:43:06 2018 No.11525309
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>>11525293

>I don't want to buy a classic book that's translated by a retard.

This book has served me well in this regard. It usually highlights the faults of the older translations you'll often find in the bargain book sections. It's super expensive though. Some nearby academic library might have it. You might be able to skim it on Google Books.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 00:47:54 2018 No.11525325 >>11525309 Looking at the prices again, they aren't as bad as they used to be. I see some good deals on the used book sites.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:08:10 2018 No.11525554 >>11525309 Can this book be summarized by the one suggestion to buy a well known and reputed translation?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 02:10:19 2018 No.11525560 >>11525554 It can be helpful for those who tend to buy works in the public domain. It might also help those who collect multiple translations of favoured works. Nonetheless, I admit that its value is limited.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:05:16 2018 No.11526464 In the Wasp Factory, why did Frank never try to pick the lock on the study door? What with his bomb making, survivalist stuff, etc you'd think he'd know how

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 09:10:15 2018 No.11526480 >>11526464 because it's a trash book

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:13:37 2018 No.11526686 What the fuck is Gnosticism? What the fuck do you read to learn about Gnosticism? What the fuck is it about?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:22:03 2018 No.11526719 File: 20 KB, 263x400, 51bNb51PtJL._AC_SY400_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This translation good? I copped it a while back and going to start it soon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:23:24 2018 No.11526723 Is there a comprehensive book about world war two? I can find books specifically about nazis or the pacific war but i want something that goes through events in a chronological order.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:31:03 2018 No.11526759 File: 786 KB, 1400x2700, 1490503050651.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11526686

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:33:58 2018 No.11526768 File: 369 KB, 833x971, p.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11526686 >What the fuck is Gnosticism? The Gnostics were basically evil Platonists.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:35:03 2018 No.11526777 >>11526723 >comprehensive book about world war two >i want something that goes through events in a chronological order Given the many theaters, writing such a book would be exceedingly difficult. I wonder if it was ever seriously attempted.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:41:22 2018 No.11526795 File: 157 KB, 677x658, ae.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11526719 Good, but falls a little flat ('uncertain in tone and rhythm')

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:53:18 2018 No.11526836 >>11526686 Read The Gnostics by Brakke

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 10:56:40 2018 No.11526849 >>11526768 Nice >>11526759 Nice I feel like I picked up slightly more than I have from going through wiki and whatever, like I have a concrete comparison for the thought. Any key texts? It doesn't sound bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 11:01:18 2018 No.11526863 where can I find dictionaries for my bookeen - i need .dic and .idx files?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 11:02:52 2018 No.11526870 >>11526777 The best ive come across so far is this https://www.amazon.co.uk/World-Arms-Global-History-War/dp/0521618266 I might get it if i cant find anything else.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 11:17:13 2018 No.11526910
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>>11526849

This is a reminder that much of what we know of Gnosticism comes from the fifty-two treatises of the Nag Hammadi library, and that these works could have easily disappeared from the face of the earth without a trace.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 11:47:35 2018 No.11527032 How do you cope with not being able to read a work in it's original language and having to read translations?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 11:51:38 2018 No.11527046 >>11527032 You learn the language?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:05:35 2018 No.11527104 any good general history books?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:08:03 2018 No.11527115 >>11527046 >just learn the language lmao xD

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:16:46 2018 No.11527145 >>11527115 Yeah dude just be yourself

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:22:23 2018 No.11527164 >>11518674 this is a Folgers board.

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:26:02 2018 No.11527179

>>11524144
>I've tried to download several books but they all come as generic files that I can't open.

back in the day i used to laugh at all the retards that couldn't figure out how to unpack a multi-part rar file or mount isos to install doom 3 or whatever. but i never expected things to become this bad.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:26:58 2018 No.11527183 >>11517204 Try "The Hidden Tools of Comedy", by Steve Kaplan.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:28:25 2018 No.11527188 >>11521481 just get a glossed version and read it in middle english. it's not beowulf, a modern reader can figure it out. it's so much more fun that way.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:34:15 2018 No.11527204 >>11527104 What, to you, is general history?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:37:02 2018 No.11527212 File: 108 KB, 625x406, english.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you can't read this, you're a pleb.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:39:52 2018 No.11527219 >>11517206 >>11527183 Thanks

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:51:05 2018 No.11527264

>>11527212
are you memeing at me for telling that guy to read middle english? because that's old english. if you can't read middle english you really are a pleb:

>A KNYGHT ther was, and that a worthy man,
>That fro the tyme that he first bigan
>To riden out, he loved chivalrie,
>Trouthe and honour, fredom and curteisie.
>Ful worthy was he in his lordes werre,
>And therto hadde he riden, no man ferre,
>As wel in cristendom as in hethenesse,
>And evere honoured for his worthynesse;

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:51:57 2018 No.11527266 >>11518674 Why would you get paperbacks, Everyman has a Shakespeare collection in several volumes.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 12:56:10 2018 No.11527278 >>11527264 Good man

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:15:27 2018 No.11527841 The first draft always sucks, R-Right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:23:13 2018 No.11527900 >>11527841 Always.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:26:53 2018 No.11527917 what's the point of good reads, is it just to post reviews to make you seem smart?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:35:12 2018 No.11527965 what's the name of the russian novel that came out right before ulysses that's supposedly very similar it's the name of a city but i can't remember which one

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:37:49 2018 No.11527980 >>11527965 can it be Chevengour ?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:39:25 2018 No.11527991 >>11527965 Petersburg by Bely?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:40:47 2018 No.11527997 >>11527917 it's just the book niche of social media, for the people who feel their life isn't real if it's not documented online. remember last.fm?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:41:41 2018 No.11528005 >>11527997 oh sweet, might get into it, the idea of setting a yearly target of books seems cool

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:45:15 2018 No.11528026 >>11515102 read the words not the images in your head

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 15:53:35 2018 No.11528069 File: 2.12 MB, 2880x2160, 20180727_125249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is Paul Roche a good translator?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 16:01:31 2018 No.11528105 File: 70 KB, 782x208, spart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11528069 It depends. Does this bother you?

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 16:15:46 2018 No.11528149
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>>11528069
yes, and there's a lot of helpful footnotes too. unless you really hate the use of slang to represent dialects of greek, like the other anon mentioned.

pictured: paul roche

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 16:38:59 2018 No.11528243 >The current trend for interpreting the literary Classicism of the Roman empire is to emphasize the self-conscious creativity of this literary activity. Is this ok?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 16:44:18 2018 No.11528261 >>11528105 that's actually hilarious

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 17:31:27 2018 No.11528421 >>11527991 that's it

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>>11508267
Not exactly obscure, but I recently enjoyed Gene Wolfe's The Fifth Head of Cerberus, which is three interconnected stories about a twin set of colonized planets. Also, you might find something in this chart

Anonymous Fri Jul 27 18:27:41 2018 No.11528630

>>11508234
Homer. It's where a ton of modern tropes / hero tropes strems from, so his books will feel very modern and timeless, almost like watching an epic blockbuster at times.

I'd say start with the Iliad and then The odyssey (the sequal to the illiad), but there's a great audio version of the odyssey read by ian mckellen (freakin' Gandal himself), so you can start right on that one if you have trouble reading. You don't really need to read the Iliad first, just watch some 5 minute plot summary video on youtube.

also bear in mind that The odyssey is not written in chronological order, but jumps around a bit. Shouldn't be a problem but you might want to check out some kind of infographic or something about the events if you get confused. The audio by Mckellen is the Robert Fagles translation. If you want to read the Illiad first you should get the Fagles translation for that too, it's the most layman and easy to read of all the translations.

also just read whatever you want from the 20th century, high school classics like george orwell, hemningway etc is a good place to start

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>>11528630
>>11508234
>almost like watching an epic blockbuster
>sequal
>freakin' Gandal himself
>if you have trouble reading
>You don't really need to read the Iliad first
>watch some 5 minute plot summary video on youtube
>you should get the Fagles translation
>george orwell, hemningway
Can the brainlets lead the brainlets? Shall they not both fall into the ditch?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 18:48:10 2018 No.11528682 File: 89 KB, 500x398, 1532274737547.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] how would a femanon become /lit/erati?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 18:50:55 2018 No.11528689 >>11528682 by reading books I suppose

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 27 22:28:21 2018 No.11529473 >>11528105 Should ancient comedies be funny or literal?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:22:26 2018 No.11530040 Asked in wrong thread. Which publication of Scarlet Letter is best?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:35:44 2018 No.11530088 >>11529473 I don't know what you mean by literal; but Aristophanes is often literally hilarious, regardless of the translation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 01:40:59 2018 No.11530102 >>11530088 Call me a pleb but the translation of the Clouds that made me laugh the hardest (physically) was Arrowsmith's, who very obviously took many liberties with the text (specifically the jokes)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 04:06:37 2018 No.11530428 >>11527115 Did you want the feel good answer instead? Try to be a man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 06:14:56 2018 No.11530764 Just starting a long train journey and I have nothing to read. Are there any pdfs of decent books I can download from somewhere? Open to literally anything.

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