Can someone please explain this? I want to buy the Iliad on Kindle, but it says 260 pages. I know the book isn't that short. Is this just an error on Amazon's part?

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Anonymous Sat Jul 21 11:55:56 2018 No.11496704 [Reply] [Original]

Can someone please explain this? I want to buy the Iliad on Kindle, but it says 260 pages. I know the book isn't that short. Is this just an error on Amazon's part?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 11:57:56 2018 No.11496713 File: 36 KB, 940x478, sfsf.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496704 No Kindle page numbers to check either.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:07:22 2018 No.11496757 File: 61 KB, 300x229, 565465464.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496704 Isn't the entire point in getting an e-reader that you do not have to pay for books?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:14:34 2018 No.11496783 >>11496757 Please try and address my actual point.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:15:22 2018 No.11496785 >>11496783 I was just about to answer but you're a cunt so now I'm writing this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:20:03 2018 No.11496806 Reminder: Fuck Penguin

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:22:15 2018 No.11496814 >paying for ebooks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:22:22 2018 No.11496815 >>11496783 pirate it already nerd

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:23:58 2018 No.11496823 >>11496704 this is public domain. just grab a free copy of it already

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:24:43 2018 No.11496825 >>11496783 No, just download that e-book and in 12 seconds you'll have your answer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:25:53 2018 No.11496830 >>11496823 Modern translations aren't public domain. People put a lot of work in them and it's wrong to steal. It's worth being a virtuous person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:26:08 2018 No.11496833 >>11496704 There’s an option to pay 5k for it so the kike publisher can give kickbacks to his racist kike mobster friends.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:28:04 2018 No.11496846 File: 122 KB, 680x709, 1524181345898.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496830 >Modern translations aren't public domain. People put a lot of work in them and it's wrong to steal. It's worth being a virtuous person.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:29:00 2018 No.11496852 >>11496846 Get behind me Satan

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:30:55 2018 No.11496865 File: 840 KB, 2205x2400, ada lovelace.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496704 >not looking into chapman's homer pfffttt...... you're never gonna make it, squiddo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:31:07 2018 No.11496867 Pirate it faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:36:51 2018 No.11496900 File: 1.61 MB, 280x296, 1444176154514.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496865 >latinized homer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:37:20 2018 No.11496905 I should've expected this vile nonsense. Can someone just explain why it's only 260 pages?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:39:00 2018 No.11496912 >>11496905 Them assholes are obviously trying to sell you half an Illiad.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:39:45 2018 No.11496916 Pirate if you retarded fucking faggot. >Hurrr lets help make the richest man in the world even richer Kys slave

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:42:56 2018 No.11496939 >>11496704 Get the Fitzgerald translation or get the fuck out.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:45:48 2018 No.11496958 File: 438 KB, 1378x981, 1504549374038.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496939 Wrong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:46:49 2018 No.11496962 >>11496958 >Thunderstroke Cool word

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:47:57 2018 No.11496969 >>11496912 I hate it when my local book dealer dilutes my Illiads with some watery shit like YA fiction or cooking recipes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:50:02 2018 No.11496975 >>11496958 Anyone have a Theogony comparison chart? Or rec the best translation for both literal and poetic readings?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:51:08 2018 No.11496982 >>11496704 >paying for classics

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:52:09 2018 No.11496984 >>11496975 Get the Loeb version of Hesiod. It has Theogony + Works and Days, side by side with the Greek. You won't regret it!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:52:14 2018 No.11496985 File: 21 KB, 823x226, Untitled.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Shame, OP. Shame.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:54:01 2018 No.11496995 >>11496985 Yeah, I post there because people aren't likely to tell you to kill yourself over a book. This place is disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:54:10 2018 No.11496996 >>11496985 And yet, by shaming OP for utilising reddit, you too have revealed your usage of the website. The opinions of other anons do not matter as you've already shamed yourself with your hypocrisy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:54:31 2018 No.11496999 >>11496985 Christ hes been trying to figure this out for over 8 days. https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/8ydy95/the_iliad_prose/?st=jjvnksz3&sh=11d545ba

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:54:40 2018 No.11497000 >>11496985 we did it, he had to go back and he did

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:56:36 2018 No.11497012 >>11496996 I only use it ironically

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:57:31 2018 No.11497016 >>11496999 No. I just gave up and came back to it. Idk why the fuck Penguin is so shit and is selling like half a book apparently... No one seems to know the answer either.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:57:37 2018 No.11497019

>>11496905
>>11496704
E-books almost always have a lower page count. 260 still seems too low.
The only way to know for sure if it’s missing pages is by buying it or pirating that same copy. Amazon should refund your money if it’s missing pages or unreadable.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 12:58:44 2018 No.11497024 >>11497016 They're not selling you have a book. Jesus Christ man they just count the pages differently.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 13:10:43 2018 No.11497070

>>11496704
Ebook paging is fucked up, Gengi Monogatari's ebook has like 2500 pages, but after I read it I came across a physical edition of the very same translation I read and it's barely 200 pages. Meanwhile, the Sot-Weed Factor's ebook (which I don't recommend to anyone btw, because the book has a bunch of obscure signs in the text which the kindle doesn't react well to) has like 400 pages, despite the book being closer to 700s.

That being said
>downloading paid ebooks of something you can find literally anywhere else
>being a foppish fag
yikes

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 13:11:51 2018 No.11497073 >>11497024 This sounds like OPs first ebook, kindle pagecounts often CHANGE while you're READING the book.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 13:14:08 2018 No.11497084

>>11497070
I don't understand why it changes though. Surely i it's based on the print version as Amazon says it should be just as long. And anyway, I seriously doubt the text is so small as to reduce the page count by that amount. Besides, most kindles are smaller than real books. I just don't see how a 600 page ish book can be 260.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 13:57:10 2018 No.11497291 >>11497084 Page numbers are entirely arbitrary and irrelevant in Kindle books. Ebooks are divided by locations. If you're lucky they will make some effort to make page numbers match a physical edition, but it doesn't have to.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:18:15 2018 No.11498030

>>11497084
Take a book, try to change the margin spaces, font size, check something on the index and return to the page with the reference you looked up being the first word on the page when it wasn't and maybe you'll understand "ebook" is just a better formated and uneditable text file, not a literal book converted into 0s and 1s by Jeff Bezos incredible singularity machine.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:29:47 2018 No.11498111

>>11496830
>stealing
unless it results in a lost sale or actual cost it isn't stealing
I do not pay for books, therefore if I don't pay for a book it isn't a lost sale since if I couldn't download it for free I wouldn't bother and costs the publisher nothing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:33:27 2018 No.11498141 >>11498111 With your logic I should be able to steal a TV from blockbuster since I wasn't planing on buying one anyways.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:34:52 2018 No.11498148 >>11498141 no as I said no negative impact on cost, physical items cost, the ebook I download costs the publisher nothing, you taking a physical item costs the store money

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:37:25 2018 No.11498168 >>11498148 Ebooks cost time and labor to create, quite a bit actually. They didn't just magically appear.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:40:27 2018 No.11498191

>>11498168
I agree, but my download doesn't cost them anything to distribute or equate to a lost sale, regardless of if I download it or not the cost to them is the same in fact if I download a book and like it chances are I'll talk about it and most of my mates still use physical books for some reason so me downloading costs them nothing and might actually lead to more money than if iwouldn't have downloaded it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:41:36 2018 No.11498204 >>11498191 in any case it wouldn't stand up in court

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:46:39 2018 No.11498240

>>11498204
I'd never end up in court, I send 100% of my traffic through a VPN, I'm downloading around a hundred books a year, why would they waste all that money? why would the police waste all that time and finally without sounding fedora I care more about morals than law

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:48:37 2018 No.11498258 >>11498240 my point is it's an untenable argument if you're going to steal, steal, don't try and defend it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:50:45 2018 No.11498273

>>11498258
>to take the property of another wrongfully and especially as a habitual or regular practice
who have I taken from? they still have it

my point is regardless of legality me downloading the book has all positive and no negative impact, me not downloading the book only has negative impact

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:56:14 2018 No.11498309 >>11498273 if someone fixes your car and you refuse to pay him, what have you taken?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 16:57:37 2018 No.11498316 >>11498309 his time, terrible argument though since regardless of my download the time invested is the same, whereas the mechanic would be using extra time also I'd have agreed to pay before he started working - try again

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:03:50 2018 No.11498350 OP your Reddit page is embarassing, kek.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:07:54 2018 No.11498381 >>11498316 it's an honour system. by wanting the book that makes you the customer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:10:27 2018 No.11498398 >>11498381 no, buying the book would make me a customer

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:18:47 2018 No.11498449 >>11498398 yeah. you're supposed to buy it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:21:13 2018 No.11498467 >>11498449 but I didn't so I'm not a customer

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:28:43 2018 No.11498523

>>11498467
no you're a thief.
i'll put it another way; if you sit in an english university course you'll get a free education. the teacher would already be lecturing so it's not wasting his time, you're not taking anything physical. but if everyone followed your thinking, the university would be making no money and they'd have to get rid of the teacher. so basically the argument is untenable. unless you think you should be an exception. which i don't personally think is very moral.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:31:17 2018 No.11498544 >>11498523 look mate clearly me hitting a download button upsets you if it means this much to you fine I'm a thief if one little internet argument means that much I'll concede - hope the rest of your day isn't effected by how upset you are by this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:33:49 2018 No.11498558 >>11498544 that's a guilty conscience my friend, i'm not even telling you not to steal, just don't defend it since it is basically wrong (but so are a lot of things we do on a day to day basis).

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:34:40 2018 No.11498565 >>11498558 ok mate I won't defend things that hurt your feelings

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:37:52 2018 No.11498581 >>11498565 but you didn't hurt my feelings. we were talking about right & wrong in terms of a simple reasonable argument.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:41:55 2018 No.11498601 >>11498581 yes and all you said was it's illegal and then used weird analogies then attacked the analogies because you couldn't think of a negative imapct me downloading ebooks has

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:47:36 2018 No.11498625 >>11498601 when i said it wouldn't stand up in court (which was my first reply btw), i meant the argument couldn't be defended, i wasn't going after you personally.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:48:47 2018 No.11498632 >>11498625 I've never said it wasn't illegal, you're arguing against a point I didn't make

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:50:39 2018 No.11498642 >>11496995 unironically this

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:53:59 2018 No.11498658 >>11498632 are you dense? i just told you i'm not talking about the law

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 17:55:01 2018 No.11498664 >>11498658 you're talking about court you stupid muppet - do arguments about morals end up in court in whatever third world you're from?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:00:48 2018 No.11498688 >>11496995 Then stay there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:02:12 2018 No.11498695 >>11498664 it's a figure of speech. like when julian barbour says 'newton's theory of time wouldn't pass in a court of law'

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:02:57 2018 No.11498700 >>11498695 so you agree it's not morally wrong then?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:05:03 2018 No.11498708 >>11498700 it must be. it can't be defended as right; >>11498523 and >whatever third world you're from that's rich. considering the dicussion we're having

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:05:11 2018 No.11498710 >>11496905 The Iliad isnt that long

>>	OP Sat Jul 21 18:12:14 2018 No.11498745 I gave in and bought it but I feel ripped off because part of the book is missing. It ends with then burning Hectors body. I wanted the second half with the horse and Achilles death. Fuck Penguin and fuck you guys for not being helpful.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:13:24 2018 No.11498750 >>11498745 that's where it ends

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:14:25 2018 No.11498758 >>11498750 oh was that a joke haha very neat

>>	OP Sat Jul 21 18:14:51 2018 No.11498761 >>11498750 No. I wanted it mostly for the part where they sneak in the city and this shitty penguin version doesn't include it. Now I have to look for the second part

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:20:43 2018 No.11498788 >>11498761 that doesn't happen in the iliad they talk about it in the odyssey

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:25:45 2018 No.11498809 >>11498745 >>11498761 I don't believe somebody could be this retarded. Its a ruse.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:35:26 2018 No.11498855 I'm not op, but I like having real books of things that are public domain. Hard to be disciplined behind a computer if you're doing real studying

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:39:42 2018 No.11498868 >>11498855 kindle would work as well

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:43:17 2018 No.11498882 >>11496958 Fagles' rhythm sounds like actual waves. Fagles is best confirmed?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:45:29 2018 No.11498888 >>11496704 >paperback cheaper than ebook

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 18:48:18 2018 No.11498901 >>11498882 except there are dozens of other translations besides than these four

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:08:48 2018 No.11499001 >>11498788 >falling for such weak bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:12:51 2018 No.11499020 >>11499001 i'm new

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:14:02 2018 No.11499022 >>11498523 i dont get a degree from the university and i dont get a physical copy of the book

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:20:05 2018 No.11499041 File: 22 KB, 528x352, mp,550x550,matte,ffffff,t-c,22,2,0,352.u1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What are good places to download e-books anons?

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:21:03 2018 No.11499043

If you read a prose translation then the document will probably be half as long because each page is full of text, not only half-full and padded with whitespace. Not to say that that translator is a prose translator, I don't know who the fuck that is, but keep it in mind. And you faggot cockgrabber, why ever pay more for data when you can pay less for the actual physical product? That price structuring is a scam.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:21:05 2018 No.11499044 >>11499041 libgen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:23:58 2018 No.11499058 >>11499043 the further we get from cavemen, the less we value physical things. kindle is more convenient for a lot of people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:25:20 2018 No.11499061 >>11499041 b-ok.org

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:46:03 2018 No.11499140 >>11499044 >>11499061 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:49:24 2018 No.11499157 >>11499022 you're paying, in both cases, (mostly) for the content/services.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:52:36 2018 No.11499175 >>11499157 information cannot be sold, if you have ever told anyone something you read in a book that you paid for or shared knowledge a lecturer taught you have you enabled an act of theft?

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 19:58:03 2018 No.11499192

Pages don't exist in ebooks. Amazon tries to estimate page lenght using variables that dont work the same on every ebook. Maybe the book is supposedly 260 pages but is formatted in Goudy at 13pt, and when you open it customize it to a more comfortable TMR at 11pt or somesuch then the book will only be 180 pages long.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 20:12:18 2018 No.11499257 >>11499175 content doesn't mean information

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 20:13:25 2018 No.11499261 >>11499257 books arent made up of information?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:09:15 2018 No.11499681 >>11499261 No, they're made of materials which needed to be harvested, refined, and manufactured by paid laborers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:11:38 2018 No.11499692 >>11499681 ebooks arent made up of information?

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:21:02 2018 No.11499719

>>11499692
No, they're not made up of anything, they're made by, again, paid laborers. You're crowdsourcing to recompense their lost time, which is also why they're so expensive: nobody buys them so the cost deferred to each customer is a higher fraction of the total.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:21:57 2018 No.11499722 >>11499719 >they're not made up of anything why are these people choosing to labor over nothing?? why would anyone pay for nothing??

Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:41:42 2018 No.11499800

>>11496830
>Meanwhile, those who have been locked out are not standing idly by. You have been
sneaking through holes and climbing over fences, liberating the information locked up by
the publishers and sharing them with your friends.

>But all of this action goes on in the dark, hidden underground. It's called stealing or
piracy, as if sharing a wealth of knowledge were the moral equivalent of plundering a
ship and murdering its crew. But sharing isn't immoral — it's a moral imperative. Only
those blinded by greed would refuse to let a friend make a copy.
-- Guerilla Open Access Manifesto

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:43:29 2018 No.11499805 >>11499692 the iliad isn't, is it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 22:48:38 2018 No.11499827 >>11496785 Based

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 23:02:56 2018 No.11499872 >>11498745 Terrible bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 23:04:58 2018 No.11499881 >>11496704 go to project gutenberg and read it for free dumbass

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 21 23:25:59 2018 No.11499963 >>11496806 based

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 00:17:38 2018 No.11500113 Unironically fuck off to Reddit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 00:25:21 2018 No.11500133 >>11496806 for what? selling books for cheaper than everyone else?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 00:32:26 2018 No.11500158 >>11500133 If I sell feces cheaper than my neighbor sells garden hoses, it doesn't give me or my product any meaningful credit as a merchant. I'm selling shit, after all.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 08:11:36 2018 No.11501375 File: 121 KB, 250x418, 1343587195596.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To make any use of this garbo thread. What is the best eraeader out right now? Paperwhite 3 ?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 08:22:10 2018 No.11501411 >>11500158 is that your opinion of the iliad?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 08:24:38 2018 No.11501415 >>11496995 >This place is disgusting this

Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:14:10 2018 No.11501785
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>>11498148
>the price of a book comes from it's physical components
how can you be a functioning human being and not understand intellectual property

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:15:29 2018 No.11501790 >>11501785 I never said that, stop arguing against something I didn't say, my point is my illegal download has all positives and no negatives for everyone

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:21:28 2018 No.11501812 >>11496995 leave . . .?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:22:18 2018 No.11501814 >>11501790 except it does, because you likely would have bought the book had you had no other way of acquiring it, instead, you chose to obtain it illegally therefore making you a thief and a lost customer

Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:23:30 2018 No.11501817

>>11501814
>because you likely would have bought the book had you had no other way of acquiring it
no I've literally said I don't do this there have been books I've not been able to get for free so I've juts not bothered with them, read the thread before jumping in

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:28:12 2018 No.11501838 >>11498708 It can be defended as right. Easily. Just raise your valuation of "the free dissemination of information" to be above your valuation of "intellectual property" Now its immoral to pay for it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:35:45 2018 No.11501861 >>11497070 >Barely 200 Probably because that was the abridged Whaley translation most probably. The complete one is around a thousand pages with gigantic pages and small lettering.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 10:38:47 2018 No.11501872 >>11501838 that would prevent the author to object to alteration, distortion, or mutilation that is detrimental to his reputation, so it's an immoral thing to do

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 13:15:23 2018 No.11502607 >buy >kindle >Iliad

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 15:27:15 2018 No.11503344 >>11501411 It's my opinion of Penguin books. Penguin did not write the Iliad, the only credit they receive is for the merchandise they produce, which is shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 15:32:09 2018 No.11503397 >>11496704 >>11496704 >>11496830 ILLIAD IS LITERALLY PUBLI DOMAIN, YOU CAN GET IT LEGALLY, FREE, ON GUTENBERG.ORG

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 15:34:42 2018 No.11503412 >>11503397 Certain translations are public domain. Many of them aren't.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 15:47:40 2018 No.11503503 >>11503412 YOU HAVE POPE, GET HIM HE IS GOOD

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 15:55:20 2018 No.11503554 >>11496905 260 is a reasonable length. Those 1000 pages bricks contain other epics stuff.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 15:56:30 2018 No.11503559 File: 15 KB, 453x319, 44456.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11496806 >Reminder: Fuck Penguin

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 16:09:37 2018 No.11503638 >>11503503 pope is awful!

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 16:12:23 2018 No.11503653 File: 1.12 MB, 709x861, 1526478833343.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11503638 >pope is awful

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 16:14:18 2018 No.11503663 >>11503653 not that pope

Anonymous Sun Jul 22 16:34:46 2018 No.11503794

>>11501872
How so? The act of altering, distorting or mutilating the work could be supposed as immoral from the starting point that you're valuing "the free dissemination of (valuable) information" with the understanding that mutilating the work lowers the value of it and therefore decreases the quality of the available information to freely disseminate, a serious immoral action.

The act of acquiring the work, adulterated or not wouldn't be immoral then

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 22 16:49:06 2018 No.11503884 >>11503794 if you're adding 'valuable' to it, there's an implicit valuation of intellectual property being higher

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