Stoicism

[Anonymous No.11494988]

I'm fairly new to philosophy. I've read Meditations and I've recently started the Republic as well as Letters by Seneca. Is it recommended to read one of these before the other? I have some other books on the go as well so I'd prefer to only go with one at a time.
Also general stoicism thread

[Anonymous No.11495001]

>>11494988
stop reading cuck philosophy and take the zhuangzi pill

[Anonymous No.11495004]

read epictetus
maybe some cicero like the de finibus

[Anonymous No.11495005]

>>11494988
Listen guy, you're brain is decaying by the second. You don't have time to sit here like some broad trying to decide which romantic comedy to gorge herself on tonight. Read fucking Plato first obviously. Do you need someone to tell you which chapter to start with as well?

[Anonymous No.11495019]

>>11495001
It seems as if your type of crowd were very much the socially distant “geeky” types that you would have never associated with in your idealized life. Evidently, you believed that you were in a whole other league in terms of intelligence/charisma from the dusty, quiet paper collectors that you hung out with. Subsequently, you treated yourself as a lottery prize winner in relation to your fellows.

By contrast, alpha males, like me and OP, see beta males, like (You), as natural companions with whom we can see eye-to-eye...not to mention brain cell to brain cell!

It will certainly be fun for your brainlet ass to be integrated into the lives of the school stars that were certainly beyond access when you were trying to be an intellectual. Whereas in the past, the jocks would have been simply laughing at your attempts at intelligence and subsequently had a relationship that ranged from indifference to being beaten up, now we just chuckle and see you as “The Chick” at all their parties while we casually drink beer, watch sports, and read Stoic literature (I sense you will be good at reading Plato with your lack of self-awareness!)

[Anonymous No.11496122]

>>11494988
Is Plato the best place to start with philosophy? I've read Homer if that changes anything.

[Anonymous No.11496174]

>>11495005
If I wanted to have a good understanding of Plato is there a series of dialogues one should read that encapsulate his thought well enough without reading them all?
I'd like to get to the neoplatonists and I was curious if some dialogues were skippable.

[Anonymous No.11496218]

>>11496122
>Is Plato the best place to start with philosophy?
Yes.

>I've read Homer if that changes anything.
Even better. Plato often references Homer's writings and having read his work already will be nothing but a boon to your reading of Plato. A good translation/edition of Plato will always contain footnotes that both refer to the part of the Illiad or the Odyssey that he's referencing, and needed political/social/cultural context for things that were taken for granted by the old greeks, but not us. I'm afraid I can't help you find a good edition of Plato unless you're swedish though; I didn't read him in english.

[Anonymous No.11497960]

>>11494988
The concept of feelings in stoicism is often misunderstood. If you interpret this stuff with the contemporary discourse of psychology it'll be a depressing ride. To make it short feelings in stoicism are everything outside of the scope of natural reactions. They endorse feelings and living life to the fullest

[Anonymous No.11498378]

>>11496174
>If I wanted to have a good understanding of Plato is there a series of dialogues one should read that encapsulate his thought well enough without reading them all?
No, you have to read them all

[Anonymous No.11498391]

>>11494988
Yall guys are so mainstream. Read Laotse, the only book you need.

[Anonymous No.11498489]

>>11496174
Read Hackett’s version “five dialogues” of Plato’s. It’s cheap and a good foundation for Plato/Aristotle. Those 5 are the basics & Republic.

[Anonymous No.11498505]

>>11494988
Stoicism is for fags
For ancient philosophy read Plato, Aristotle, Homer minimum.