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What are some books about IRL magic? I'm not that interested in how, but in the philosophy of the occult.

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I suggest Wouter J. Hanegraaf's Western Esotericism: A Guide for the Perplexed for a general overview of the vast field you are talking about. Thousands of years across multiple continents and suppressed at that. There is no singular tradition. There are witches and necromancers and theurgists and goes and alchemists and hermeticists and rosicrucians and freemasons and theosophers and ceremonial magicians, just to name a few. After Hanegraaf, if still interested in Western magical philosophy, you probably need to go back at least to the Greeks if not Egyptians for the earliest extant Western sources. Some good books on magical Egypt and its connection to Greek thought include the works of Algis Uzdavinys. Focuses mostly on Neoplatonism and linguistic connections for words used in magical and mystical processes. Most Western magical philosophy is Neoplatonic. So reading Plato and Aristotle can't hurt, as well as the main Neoplatonists; Plotinus, Proclus, & Iamblichus (De mysteriis by Iamblichus is a classic of magical philosophy). For more general magical Greek philosophy, I would suggest something like Peter Kingsley. He focuses more on the Presocratics leading up to Socrates and Plato and Aristotle which shows how far the tradition goes... beyond recorded history. Stephen Skinner also has two books on the Greek Magical Papyri and its connection to Goetia entitled Techniques of Graeco-Egyptian Magic and Techniques of Solomonic Magic. Says techniques but more analysis and theory though can certainly be used for practice. Magic, Witchcraft, and Ghosts in the Greco-Roman World is a good source of more folksy magic. Arcana Mundi is a good collection of source texts. Apuleuis, author of Golden Ass, has some Neoplatonic magical philosophy. Albert Magnus, Agrippa, Trithemius, are big in the medieval period. Isamic esotericism also filtered in then. Ficino, Mirandola, and Patrizi for Renaissance. Jewish mysticism also filtered in then. Eliphas Levi's Transcendental Magic for Enlightenment. Origin of tarot attributes. Crowley for Modern stuff (I recommend Book 4: Liber ABA if you want one book only by him [it's his best and most philosophical]).

>> No.11486502

>>11486482
Does magic real?

>> No.11486520

Ramsey Dukes

>> No.11486529

>>11486502
Tbqh if it was real we'd have a world filled with nothing but succubi and incubi.

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>>11486502
I am unsure how to answer that. The subject interests me greatly. I do not practice any traditional method. Aside from some general prayers, meditations, and yogic and tantric techniques, I am pretty mundanely focused and not a practitioner of magic or any religion. I forge my own path, you might say, though my personal philosophy is similar enough to Taoism that I sometimes describe myself as one. I suppose I am scared of insanity and negative repercussions of sorcery. Nevertheless, I find it strangely spiritually inspiring to hear theories of how magic works and systems of signatures and correspondences in the natural world by which we might discern God's hidden messages. Though I am a scientist, I find it hard to believe that all these systems of magic are so similar if there is nothing behind them.
>>11486529
Succubi and incubi fill my dreams, lol.
>>11486520
Dukes is great. Thundersqueak and SSOTBME are personal faves.


Also, at the risk of attracting /pol/... pic related is decent.

>> No.11486602

>>11486543
did you experience more sinchronicities after studying occult books?

>> No.11486616

>>11486602
lol

>> No.11486630

>>11486133
It's mostly a history of missteps in archaeology and philology related to Egyptian, Greek, and Hebrew mythology and ritual. I'm reading Giordano Bruno and The Hermetic Tradition right now and enjoying it immensely. It has many sources for recommended readings and gives a good account of the various stains of occult philosophy.

>>11486502
Yes, for the agent. It's mostly about esoteric knowledge, but the implication of the methods of understanding are important for practical matters in the sciences. Less important now that we've equipped ourselves with so many memory devises, but these basic methods of understanding the world were invaluable to humanity during the renaissance. The realness of magic also has a lot to do with the making and controlling of the legitimacy of beliefs, the basic practice of science.

>> No.11486631

>>11486616
>616

>> No.11486637

>>11486602
I did. But did I create them or merely begin to notice what had always been present?
>>11486616
Also a good response.

>> No.11486650

>>11486630
Frances Yates is great. Check out the Rosicrucian Enlightenment and Occult Philosophy of the Elizabethian as well. A bit dated but still good.

It is important to remember that religion and philosophy and science and magic were not as clearly demarcated back then.

>> No.11486663

On the super entry level side of things, Colin Wilson has a theory and history of magical existentialism he articulates in his book The Occult. A bit too new agey for me but apparently he is quite popular among some.

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>>11486663
On the advanced level, try these essays:

https://www.parrhesiajournal.org/parrhesia09/parrhesia09_laruelle.pdf

http://razorsmile.org/archive/deleuzeandsorcery.pdf

http://cadenaaurea.com/2016/10/non-dual-alchemical-traditions-a-conversation-with-dr-aaron-cheak/

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Best online resources:

>Sacred Texts
https://www.sacred-texts.com
>The Hermetic Library
https://hermetic.com
>Temple of Solomon the King
https://mega.nz/#F!AE5yjIqB!y7Vdxdb5pbNsi2O3zyq9KQ

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This shit right here is a classic of anthropology. Secrets of mana. Kinda dated tho.

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>>11486543
And speaking of /pol/, read who does the annotations on this book...

>> No.11486781

Schopenhauer's "On the will in nature" has a chapter about magic.
It's pretty deep if you're already well versed with his metaphysics. or theoretical metaphysics as opposed to practical metaphysics.

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1/3

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>>11486830
2/3

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>>11486837
3/3

>> No.11486845

>>11486830
>>11486837
Correct the angle, or I ain't reading shit.

>> No.11486859

>>11486781
Can be found here if you are curious:

https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Will_in_Nature

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>>11486845
Trying again

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>>11486869
That one worked. Let's see this un...

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>>11486874
Whew... one more...

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Any lady witches here? I am a level 20 dick wizard fyi.

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https://youtu.be/7QyoRzZrF00

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https://youtu.be/vDVLMS_Yhe4

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Chaos Magic video explanation:

https://youtu.be/gzxQgRbTesA

>> No.11487117

check 8c*an's /fringe/ board. they have an impressive library of pdfs on the occult

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The /pol/tard fears the Kabbalist...

https://youtu.be/QBJlZgObDAI

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>>11487117

>> No.11487150

Don't listen to these edgy fags.

Read Alan Moore's essay on occultism called Fossil Angels. It's like 25 pgs and is based as fuck

Also check out Mystical Qabalah by Dion Fortune

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>>11486650
>It is important to remember that religion and philosophy and science and magic were not as clearly demarcated back then.
They aren't really demarcated NOW, that's the big secret.

>> No.11487164

>>11487150
https://www.scribd.com/doc/62853581/Disinformation-Book-of-Lies

>> No.11487172

>>11487150
>>11487164
https://fratersef.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/fossil-angels.pdf

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>>11487162
Have you taken the Feyerabendpill?

>> No.11487324

>>11487150
>Read Alan Moore's essay on occultism called Fossil Angels
Now that's a verbose piece of work. As someone whose first language is not english, this is very difficult to grasp

>> No.11487354

how come so many weirdos browse this board

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1/16

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>>11487366
2/16

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>>11487369
3/16

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>>11487376
4/16

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>>11487384
5/16

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>>11487386
6/16

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>>11487393
7/16

>> No.11487402

>>11486133
Colin Wilson - The Occult

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>>11487398
8/16

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>>11487404
9/16

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>>11487407
10/16

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>>11487416
11/16

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>>11487424
12/16

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>>11487429
13/16

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>>11487436

>> No.11487452

>>11487443
14/16

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>>11487452
15/16

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>>11487457
16/16

>> No.11487492

>>11487102
This is quite reminiscent of some marketing/advertizing theory with less stultifying jargon.

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>>11487492
Find more in Liber Null & Psychonaut:

https://zalbarath666.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/peter-j-carroll-liber-null-psychonaut.pdf

Liber Null is a practice manual.

Psychonaut is a theoretical manual.

>> No.11487565

>>11487402
>>11487452
C-c-c-combo breaker!

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>>11486769

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What is this world of hatred and strife and war and hatred and strife and war. Is it, perchance, a world of hatred and strife and war and of hatred and strife and war. The answer is YES it fucking well is and I want out. I want the underground of life where I am now, the underground of life. But where is this you may ask and how can I get there. Well, if you are working then walk Out straight away, get on a bus and go home and say fuck you employer and be quick with my last pay cheque. Say fuck to giving notice, if you can't walk out just like that then you won't be able to hack the underground. Then get yourself a garret to starve in and sign on the dole. Be prepared for being fucked around for weeks and months before you see any money, especially if you walked out on your job. Now say to yourself I'm finished with all that shit. So that's about the equivalent of dipping your big toe into the waters of the underground before wading in. Now stuff your central nervous system with hallucinogens listening to Beethoven's Ninth/The Cure/just about anything at full blast for months. Buy a second-hand aquarium and set it up in your garret, it doesn't matter if the glass is cracked you're going to use it for growing psilocybin cubensis mushrooms. When the weather gets warmer start sowing the marijuana seeds. Think of yourself as being on the run from the law, or forever one step ahead of the posse, or the landlord of a brothel. You're not "living" any more, you're "holding out". Then find an artform in which to work, start drawing in pen and ink, buy a battered typewriter. Become reclusive, don't shave, grow a beard, keep your hair unkempt, throw things on the floor, keep chickens in your room. Recite "Property is theft" ten times a day or until it seems obvious

>> No.11487615

>>11487324
It's a lot of wordplay. Kinda presumes some prior esoteric knowledge.

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>>11487354

>> No.11487632

>>11486543
Your writing reminds me of aleister Crowley and I have mixed feelings about that.

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>>11487628

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>>11487632
Sit down on my couch. How are your feelings mixed?

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>>11487628
>>11487636
>>11487653

>> No.11487719

>>11486482
fpbp

>> No.11487723

>>11487366
>>11487369
>>11487376
>>11487384
>>11487386
>>11487393
>>11487398
>>11487404
>>11487407
>>11487416
>>11487424
>>11487429
>>11487436
>>11487443
>>11487457
>>11487466
Great way to read a book desu

>> No.11487774

>>11487723
Sorry. I couldn't get the pages not to curve in the middle....


Was gonna do either The entry for Rosicrucianism, Hermeticism, or Neoplatonism next, but I'm a bit tuckered out from that last image dump.

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>>11486133
obviously designed to cash in on the popularity of jonathan strange and mr norrell, but an interesting read nevertheless

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Been waiting for this shit longer than Game of Thrones...

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>>11488295
2/6

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>>11488299
3/6

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>>11488301
4/6

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>>11488307
5/6

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>>11488314
6/6

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>>11488321
Bonus: 1/2

>> No.11488327

>>11488323
Bonus: 2/2

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>>11488327
Shit. Forgot image. Here. Entries on Traditionalism and (bonus:) Orientalism, two common follies in esoteric studies...

In case you didn't click on the earlier entries, those were on Occultism and Magic respectively...

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Neoplatonism: 1/7

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>>11488713
2/7

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>>11488719
3/7

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>>11488725
4/7

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>>11488735
5/7

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>>11488744
6/7

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>>11488752
7/7

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My pictures are getting wonkier. Guess I suck.


Oh well... Have a chart!

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>>11488807
Book from which articles come is top right (Dictionary of Gnosis and Western Esotericism) which is expensive in print but can be obtained theough Temple of Solomon the King server in pdf form.

Have another chart! You get a chart! And you and you and you!