Gen X needs to fully understand Heidegger. What did he mean when he wrote that technology unveils the “being”? I don’t know why, but i’m obsessed with the idea that his insight could save us.

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Anonymous Tue Jul 17 07:44:19 2018 No.11474555 [Reply] [Original]

Gen X needs to fully understand Heidegger.
What did he mean when he wrote that technology unveils the “being”? I don’t know why, but i’m obsessed with the idea that his insight could save us.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 11:59:49 2018 No.11475321 >>11474555 Source behind that image man?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:01:06 2018 No.11475326 >>11475321 Westworld

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:01:09 2018 No.11475327 >>11474555 Why Gen X in particular? They're old.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:01:46 2018 No.11475329 >>11474555 >that gen x boomer trying to keep up with the times

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:12:53 2018 No.11475367 File: 616 KB, 680x218, 8dd.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >gen x Rot in hell

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:25:53 2018 No.11475424 Gen z is the beholder of conscious enlightenment. Mark my words

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:35:50 2018 No.11475475 File: 16 KB, 368x221, Heidegger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11474555 >i’m obsessed with the idea that his insight could save us. only a god can save us

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:47:13 2018 No.11475539 can someone explain to me why he thought a hydroelectric dam is a big spoopy evil techne mosntrosity but a windmill isn’t? is it just because the former is more disruptive of the local environment?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:50:09 2018 No.11475553 >>11475539 One is all about bending and accepting nature's wills, the other is about terraforming and turning those wills into our own.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 12:58:50 2018 No.11475596 >>11475553 I understand the terraforming part but I don’t see how either is more accepting of nature's will. either way you’re making use of a natural phenomenon to harvest energy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:12:33 2018 No.11475649 >>11475596 Windmill accepts that is will only spin when the wind blows. A damn is erected to literally black the flow of water. Are you retarded?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:14:34 2018 No.11475659 File: 55 KB, 640x360, p023ldr3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11474555 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/78691781-c9b7-30a0-9a0a-3ff76e8bfe58

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:15:26 2018 No.11475666 >>11475596 Maybe read the Heidegger?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:20:12 2018 No.11475689 >>11475659 Trump crossed over to the other side of the mirror by just saying whatever comes to mind without regard for consistency. is this how you break the end of history and subvert the mechanisms of cybernetic control?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:22:17 2018 No.11475698 File: 183 KB, 772x521, 1530673682788.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11475424 >only generational marxism can save us now >dictatorship of the zoomers is coming Right after the boomers throw your ass under the bus, I'm sure...

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:24:03 2018 No.11475703 Does every hbo show devolve into female power fantasy shit now?

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Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:26:52 2018 No.11475715
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>>11474555
Read this and From Counterculture to Cyberculture by Fred Turner together with the works of Cristopher Lasch and Adam Curtis' documentaries. the 60s were a turning point and the source of many of the tensions and contradictions afflicting present day society. After the failure of the new left, the utopian aspirations of the counterculture turned inwards towards personal transformation and technology. However, this lead to a world with no sense of temporal continuity, a world where it's increasingly harder to tell fantasy and techno hype from reality.

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:27:01 2018 No.11475716

>>11475649
Windmill brutally forces wind currents around its blades, disrupting the wind's natural dictation. Hydrodam literally just lets water already flowing flow through a turbine lel.

It's because Heidegger had a shallow conception of disruption. Presumably the difference between the windmill and hydrodam is dictated according to a human-scale metric, and therefore utterly tainted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:27:31 2018 No.11475718 >>11474555 Maybe give us a quote?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:38:57 2018 No.11475771 File: 557 KB, 1274x1578, brrrrr.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11475716 >t. ancap who also insists that it's really Global Cooling

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:43:03 2018 No.11475790
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>>11475711
I'm no Trump supporter, but it's telling how most of his vocal opponents can't think beyond a cold war framework. Trump HAS to be a Manchurian Candidate who is engaging in capital-T Treason by literally 'being gay for Putin'. Maybe it's the 18th century whig representative democracy charade up in Washington that can't cope with social and technological change. The only thing that can save us is a turn towards localism and the platonic christian idea of human perfectibility and away from mass media spectacle and hyperrationalised managerial capitalism

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:43:22 2018 No.11475791 >>11475716 It's about the living things dummy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:43:59 2018 No.11475794 File: 82 KB, 1002x541, 1531798833358.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If Heidegger were a young today, would he be a frogposting incel?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 13:46:55 2018 No.11475806 >>11475790 I've been thinking constantly that if leaking emails and sending memes can really sway elections that drastically than maybe democracy just isnt meant to be anymore in the age of the internet.

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 14:02:09 2018 No.11475853

>>11475806
the role of emails and memes is overplayed precisely because existing power structures have a vested interest in occluding the broader field of the social. Trump doesn't owe his victory to /pol/ and magic frog memes, he won because he offered traditional dem voters in the rust belt an easy answer to the postindustrial question: ''China took your jobs''. liberals have abandoned material concerns by simultaneously and paradoxically doubling down on both cold war jingoism and petty culture war aesthetic/cultural policing. I can't say conservatives are much better, having long lost sight of anything actually worth conserving. it's all about 'owning the libs' these days. meanwhile the technocracy has lead to an unprecedented accumulation of power, wealth and information at the very top, but barely anyone seems concerned about this.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 14:06:21 2018 No.11475863 >>11475649 when beavers make dams is it techne run amok too?

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 14:23:40 2018 No.11475930

>>11475863
The problem is not technology, but the way technology enframes our understanding of the world. Despite the thin philanthropic veneer, Silicon Valley aims only to maximize stockholder value and accumulate information as fast as possible with little regard for social cost or democracy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 15:06:58 2018 No.11476106 >>11474555 technology enframes being, it doesn't unveil it. we need techne not technology. the abolition of great distances has brought no nearness. read Land, technology has already won. it was the boomers that needed Heidegger.

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 19:54:28 2018 No.11477273

>>11476106
I agree. We may have learned the means to produce incredible technology today, but we are so far from understanding how to properly use it and the mass repercussions from this misuse. If things keep going on like this we're basically fucked. Society will become a hollow shell.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 20:15:40 2018 No.11477341 >>11477273 what is a society? why is it worth preserving?

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 20:18:43 2018 No.11477349
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>>11474555
Technology is going to be he thing that saves us from the impending doom that awaits us. We need to achieve the ability to explore outer space before we expend all of the resources the earth has

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 20:19:12 2018 No.11477354 File: 83 KB, 768x900, gallery_showbiz-margaret-thatcher-3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11477341 >tfw honestly can't wait for the coming of hyperthatcherist neotribal patchwork

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 20:20:55 2018 No.11477360 >>11474555 Thanks for this post.

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 20:25:32 2018 No.11477379

>>11474555
What he meant was the same as several other people have noted before him, namely that technology isn't value neutral, which is the common idea of it.

What you need to understand about Heidegger was that he was a monist, which means that matter and subjectivity needs to collapse into something that explains and contains both of them.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 21:21:21 2018 No.11477682 >>11477354 Why are neoreactionaries just post-ironic ultra-leftists?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 21:23:50 2018 No.11477700 >>11477349 >just burn down the house cause we can live in a forest fire Capitalist philosophers, everyone...

Anonymous Tue Jul 17 21:35:21 2018 No.11477751
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>>11477682
postironic ultraleftism is the only way out. being an unironic reactionary is just tiresome i don't want to waste my time getting angry at 'the libs' and their antics.' just set everything on fire, starting by me personally' begins to sound like an eminently reasonable idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6RkKGV2xZc

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 17 23:28:53 2018 No.11478216 Heidegger was projecting his own fascistic tendencies into Technology, the man was a ferret

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 03:51:59 2018 No.11478968

>>11475475
what a pretentious old cunt

philosophers are really so irresponsible and cringy. Just from studying them for a little while I can see this. They learn enough to the point where they can trick the world and get its paw stuck in some trap... then it limps around in a circle for a while, dies, and the next generation carries on with existence, unblighed.

Honestly, what a FUCKING faggot. Only A God. Oh, so you're not a theist, Heidegger? Still an unrepentant Nazi? Cool man just checking up on that. A God. What a fucking childish pagan larper... that is probably the most infuriating indefinite article in all of philosophy.

Playing his stupid Teutonic ring cycle cosplay to the very end. Hope he rots in Hel

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 03:53:01 2018 No.11478970 >>11475790 ease up on the booksmarts and try to develop some common sense. it will balance you out

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:06:56 2018 No.11479008 >>11474555 >late Heidegger

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:08:01 2018 No.11479010 >>11475539 rhetoric of authenticity. literally no discernable difference except that Heidegger prefers the one over the other as more "authentic."

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>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:25:46 2018 No.11479052 File: 490 KB, 449x401, Girls.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11479048 Joke is on you Stephen... you are the dead one now!

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:29:42 2018 No.11479069 >>11479048 I'm not a STEM guy. I agree with Hawking, but I don't think it has to be that way.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:30:47 2018 No.11479071 >>11478968 snaps

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:37:41 2018 No.11479091 >>11479048 Speculative philosophical approach can never be concrete enough to compare with science fight me

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:51:16 2018 No.11479125 >>11479091 Science is just a subset of epistemology, brainlet

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:51:44 2018 No.11479128 >>11478968 you sound very mad (at your dad)

Anonymous Wed Jul 18 04:59:59 2018 No.11479147

>>11479091
>concrete
What does this actually mean? Solidity? You can reach out and touch the string vacua landscape?
Is the flipped sign term in the metric tensor, the static universal wavefunction more real to you than the ecstasies of past, present, future?
Why do you care about VV Cephai A?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 05:01:17 2018 No.11479153 >>11479091 yeah dude the linnaeus system is the only way to experience nature lmao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 05:06:46 2018 No.11479159 >>11479091 no one cares that's why french postmodernists love Heidegger so much

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 05:16:43 2018 No.11479169 >>11479048 >deride something as irrelevant and dead >be irrelevant and dead

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 05:17:43 2018 No.11479171 >>11475329 Gen X comes after boomers.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 07:07:36 2018 No.11479383 >>11477360 I will re-post it periodically here on /lit/... Oh, i meant GEN Z, i’m sorry guys

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 14:11:05 2018 No.11481141 All gens do

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 15:20:31 2018 No.11481524 >>11479048 >says something is dead >dies himself before the thing he declared dead dies what a LOSER lmfao

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 20:11:22 2018 No.11483009 >>11479048 So this is the power of STEMbros?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 18 20:13:53 2018 No.11483021 >>11475716 wrong. too tired to expand

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 02:47:06 2018 No.11484272 >>11483021 Please expand.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 02:49:54 2018 No.11484279 >>11483021 so this is the power of philosophy...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 05:47:44 2018 No.11484726 File: 1.41 MB, 1531x949, knifey spoony.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11475790 Thanks for the Ratzel and Kjellen reccs.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 05:52:41 2018 No.11484740 >>11475790 What's the source for this image or where can I find more like it, google, tineye and iqdb give nothing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 06:07:53 2018 No.11484774 >>11483021 >>11484272 >>11484279 sometimes differences in quantity amount to differences in quality. t. jacques ellul

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 14:21:47 2018 No.11486619 Are there any charts yet for Heidegger on here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 14:28:14 2018 No.11486642 >>11475703 that's where the money is

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 14:33:10 2018 No.11486666 File: 206 KB, 960x1073, 1423115408038.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11475715 >Cristopher Lasch Reading Culture of Narcissism has been terrifying. Thanks for the other recs, much appreciated.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 19:50:12 2018 No.11488215 >>11486666 I had the same reaction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jul 19 20:22:49 2018 No.11488345 File: 97 KB, 960x532, bookchin-quote.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11486666 >>11488215 http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/entries/5a7b18b5-0ec3-3d3e-a307-54820a7c6a59

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 03:23:16 2018 No.11489658 >>11479071 you rot in hell brainlet

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 03:34:52 2018 No.11489691 >>11484272 >>11475716 forget about windmill shit - not an argument. he was limited by the technology of his time & being a german hermit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jul 20 08:44:59 2018 No.11490532 >>11474555 You sound delusional.

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