Thoughts on this guy?

[Anonymous No.11453531]

Just discovered his stuff

Seems like a rational and wholesome writer. Nothing too radical, just an articulation of the good things about the status quo and western civilization.

[Anonymous No.11453533]

he's kike

[Anonymous No.11453535]

>>11453531
He's alright. He's like Jordan Peterson in a lot of ways.

[Anonymous No.11453545]

>>11453533
Seems like an English gentleman who likes classical music, nice architecture, and right-leaning centrist politics.

>>11453535
Peterson just fucking weirds me out. He's highly emotional, acts way too fake, and articulates his thoughts in a really weird and chaotic way.

I feel like Peterson is hiding something

Roger Scruton just seems like a comfy conservative guy

[Anonymous No.11453566]

>>11453531
He's unironically probably a complete brainlet with no original thoughts who doesn't even try to be right in any way. I like some of his work on aesthetics (except the reactionary side of it), but his treatment of other philosophers, one strawman after another, shows that he's either not interested in the truth, a complete brainlet or both.

[Anonymous No.11453572]

I FUCKING LOVE TOBACCO

[Anonymous No.11453576]

>>11453566
>his treatment of other philosophers, one strawman after another, shows that he's either not interested in the truth, a complete brainlet or both.
Wow he honestly sounds like a right-wing Russell in this regard.

[Anonymous No.11453623]

>>11453531
>why can't you smoke in the pub
>this brown man is weird
>the music is too loud :(
>i dont like taxes
>why are the buildings bad
>my feet hurt
Yeah its great stuff. Great if you want an inoffensive old fag trying to pass of baby boomer gripes and centre right banalities as ancient wisdom and muh common sense

[Anonymous No.11453625]

>>11453623
Holy shit le Scrotum man conservatives BTFO'd!

[Anonymous No.11453634]

>>11453625
He's a lame fag and conservative in the most literal sense. His program is basically a wistful "things were better when I was a boy...". Look, when you graduate from high school you'll realise the 1950's weren't that great. You might actually discover real authentic conservative philosophers and grow out of thinking boomerisms about graffiti and loud music are profound or at all significant.

[Anonymous No.11453635]

>>11453623
>lets smoke a pipe in the pub it's fun
>too many islamic people at once is not going to work
>modern pop music is anti-human
>let's lower the taxes they're too high
>this architecture is anti-human
>I like my carson's shoes
>inoffensive old fag

it's comfy. It's not radical or angry. Just like "hey guys this is pretty good, let's maybe reform a couple things and stop some of this dumb stuff".

It's so reasonable, I've literally never heard a "thinker" say any of this

[Anonymous No.11453645]

>>11453635
This is literally just the 1950's. Its all meaningless superficial trappings. This aversion to radical thinking and the lauding of "reasonableness" is why conservatives are cowed fogeys at best who on the cultural, economic and social fronts have been relentlessly gutter stomped by literally any opposition. Socialist, Fascist, Communist, Liberal etc. literally everyone has wiped the floor with gutless "muh small taxes and being moderate." You do you but your 30th rereading of Brideshead Revisited and wishing you could wear tweed and smoke a pipe to the supermarket without getting weird looks is not a platform

[Anonymous No.11453656]

>>11453634
>>11453623
I get a lot of satisfaction of imagining brainlets such as this poster actually debating someone of Scruton's caliber. You'd get destroyed

[Anonymous No.11453658]

>>11453634
>>11453645

>1950's weren't that great

Intellectually/philosophically/spiritually they weren't that great

But materially, they were pretty good

>easy-mode economy
>low crime
>high social trust
>good marriage life

>>11453645
>This aversion to radical thinking and the lauding of "reasonableness" is why conservatives are cowed fogeys at best who on the cultural, economic and social fronts have been relentlessly gutter stomped by literally any opposition. Socialist, Fascist, Communist, Liberal etc. literally everyone has wiped the floor with gutless "muh small taxes and being moderate." You do you but your 30th rereading of Brideshead Revisited and wishing you could wear tweed and smoke a pipe to the supermarket without getting weird looks is not a platform

>socialist, fascist, communist, liberal
This is false

But I do agree neo-conservativsm is dead in the water. The right-wing needs a futurist platform in the way that progressives have a Utopian vision for their ideology.

The right-wing needs to get aggressive about having a future vision, but they need to bring traditionalism with them to the future

[Anonymous No.11453665]

>>11453566
>except the reactionary side of it
Opinion disregarded. Fuck off so y boy

[Anonymous No.11453692]

>>11453566
Commied

[Anonymous No.11453710]

Scruton is objectively a shill. You can't prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.11453727]

>>11453656
>I get a lot of satisfaction of imagining brainlets such as this poster actually debating someone of Scruton's caliber. You'd get destroyed
epically destroyed by LOGIC and REASON
>>11453710
was literally an admitted shill for a tobacco company in the 90s or something lmao

[Anonymous No.11453732]

>>11453533
Where the fuck did you get this from?

[Anonymous No.11453738]

>>11453566
obvious commie is obvious

[Anonymous No.11453742]

>>11453727
>was literally an admitted shill for a tobacco company in the 90s or something lmao
source?

[Anonymous No.11453743]

>>11453658
What you're looking for is fascism my friend.

[Anonymous No.11453755]

>>11453531
He's a boring bland brainlet. Dishonest, uncharitable. Consign him and Mr. Peter Hitchens to the bin. The fact that these two have propped themselves up as the big guys of 'conservatism' without any opposition shows how dead and rotten modern day Anglophone 'conservatism' is. Their motto: "At least I'm not David Cameron".

Read these instead: Elizabeth Anscombe, Michael Oakeshott, George Grant.

[Anonymous No.11453768]

>>11453743
Fascism is kind of under-developed imo

[Anonymous No.11453797]

>>11453665
>>11453692
>>11453738
Oh no, some brainlets used another strawman to defend their staw king, what a surprise!

[Anonymous No.11453812]

>>11453768
You only think that because you haven't read into it, likely because their literature is suppressed.

[Anonymous No.11453819]

>>11453812
No I collect fascist literature

[Anonymous No.11453841]

>>11453819
Name a few of your favorite works of fascist literature than.

[Anonymous No.11454429]

>gosh them darn pop musics nowadays
>except metallica eh bretty good

[Anonymous No.11454446]

>>11453645
>Its all meaningless superficial trappings.
Christ I love those so much though. Sometimes superficial pleasantries and shallow social formalities make life so much easier and comfy.

[Anonymous No.11454452]

>>11453742
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2002/jan/24/advertising.tobaccoadvertising

He smokes like a chimney, so I wouldn't say it invalidiates his entire pro smoking stance by being paid by tobacco merchants

[Anonymous No.11454465]

>>11454446
they unironically hold society together.

[Anonymous No.11454915]

>>11453635
>>modern pop music is anti-human
except for Metallica, they are good

[Anonymous No.11454987]

>>11453623
scruton mentions muhammed a ton, i dont think hes racist.

[Anonymous No.11455010]

all this opposition to scruton by 4channers means hes doing something right.

[Anonymous No.11455075]

Scruton's not bad, he won't blow your mind or anything but you'll probably learn something reading him

[Anonymous No.11455079]

>>11453755
Oakeshott is miles better than him that is true, pick up "Rationalism in politics and other essays"

[Anonymous No.11455094]

>>11453531
Watched first several minutes of his show on modern art. I've read some really good critiques of modern/abstract art in general, I'm not closed-minded in this regard, but Scruton just overwhelmed me with so much sensationalist bullshit I had to turn it off.
His writing on classical music theory/aesthetics seems to be better, though. Might give it a shot sometime.

>>11455010
Zoe Quinn also caused opposition on 4chan

[Anonymous No.11455193]

>>11455010
Probably because anyone with access to the Internet can see that Zizek is not a literal Nazi (as in openly supporting Hitler's violence) as Scruton seems to think.

But of course anyone who points out that Rogered Scrotum isn't even trying to accurately represent the authors he criticizes is a literal Nazi because this board is now a class of /pol/ highschool kids.

[Anonymous No.11455201]

>>11455193
Sorry I meant Literal Commie, the equivalent of Literal Nazi for /pol/ babies.

[Anonymous No.11455316]

>>11453656
Scruton DESTROYS stupid libtards with FACTS and LOGIC

[Anonymous No.11455318]

Could anyone here name a greater living conservative philosopher?

[Anonymous No.11455323]

>>11455318
Sloterdijk, although he isn’t really a conservative

[Anonymous No.11455324]

>>11455316
They tend not to notice though, being stupid and all it's not suprising

[Anonymous No.11455330]

The worst kind of conservative, the ones who claim to prefer a "politics of prudence", are the ones who like him.

Just go full fascist if you want to be right-wing.

[Anonymous No.11455336]

>>11455318
Paul Gottfried, which just shows how sad modern conservatism is intellectually, that a random Jew who wasn't smart enough to become part of the establishment ended up being the only decent thinker on that side.

[Anonymous No.11455341]

>>11455318
Just.

[Anonymous No.11455350]

>>11455341
Moving to the U.S. destroyed his brain. He fully assimilated into retarded boomer conservatism. I mean, he became unironically a birther. Couldn't take him seriously after that.

[Anonymous No.11455399]

>>11453566
>with no original thoughts
That's the point of conservatism though.

[Anonymous No.11455409]

his documentary on art is fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.11455410]

>>11453635
>>11453645
that's why I'm not a conservative but a supporter of right-wing populism

[Anonymous No.11455572]

>>11455341

This guy is so much of a charlatan you need to be either retarded or filled wioth bad-faith to recommend him or listening to him.

[Anonymous No.11455584]

>>11455336
>who wasn't smart enough to become part of the establishment
What are you on about?

>>11453531
Well above par for a "public intellectual", but his philosophical work lacks rigour, and usually falls under close scrutiny

[Anonymous No.11455689]

>>11455318
Niall Ferguson.

inb4 Ben / Milo / Gavin / Gad or some other Youtube meme.

[Anonymous No.11455739]

>>11455584
You just wanted to make that pun, didn't you?

[Anonymous No.11455768]

>>11455689
Ferguson is a literal neocon, how can anyone take him seriously?

[Anonymous No.11455790]

>>11455768
Tbqh I don't, but I remember hearing him debate some liberal a few years ago and, not knowing who he was, I thought for a few dozen minutes he was a sort of far Leftist a la Zizek or Chomsky (the kind that complain about the current order while not proposing anything concrete). It's the only reason I remember him. Maybe also because his focus on counterfactuals sounds almost postmodern, but that's all I know about him.

[Anonymous No.11455847]

>>11453797
Oh no a commie brainlet got triggered by some shitty bait!

[Anonymous No.11455965]

>>11455847
>shitty bait

You're optimistic. /lit/ is a /pol/ colony these days, ironic shitposting is no longer ironic.

[Anonymous No.11455973]

>>11453732
D + C or just an idiot who thinks naming the Jew is a meme.

[Anonymous No.11455983]

>>11455965
Literature and Philosophy had it's fair share of traditonalists and antisemites

[Anonymous No.11456005]

>>11455983
And they should have their own threads, but I don't randomly go into Proust threads and call him a bourgeois ideologue or whatever other "enemy" can be denounced according to each ideology (I suppose calling someone fascist works for both liberals and leftists).

[Anonymous No.11456204]

>>11455318
Charles Murray

[Anonymous No.11456341]

>>11456204
Thanks, but he isn't conservative, he's a classical liberal. Please try again

[Anonymous No.11456394]

>>11455689
Sorry mate, but Ferguson has degenerated into a mere classical liberal, presumably to fit in with the crowd in America. He even listed locke's second treatise as his choise for greatest book. I do still love all his books though

ben, milo, gav and gad are fun, but thats it

[Anonymous No.11456418]

>>11455079
Scruton is influenced heavily by Oakeshott.

I must say I happened to buy Oakeshotts "Rationalism in politics and other essays" today and I am very much looking forewards to reading it

[Anonymous No.11456436]

>>11455079
Well, Scruton claims to be influenced by Oakeeshott, but what do i know

[Anonymous No.11456488]

>>11453531
He has no integrity, literally a shill.

[Anonymous No.11456489]

>>11453531
Don't listen to the haters OP, Scruton has a far greater understanding of conservatism than /lit/, and he is in my opinion the greatest living conservative philosopher. But of course you will find greater writers amongst the dead. Sir Roger, being alive and everything, is in possession of exellent answers to pressing contemporary questions from a conservative perspective

[Anonymous No.11456494]

>>11453732
>Scruton was born in Buslingthorpe, Lincolnshire[8] to John "Jack" Scruton, a teacher from Manchester, and his wife, Beryl Claris Scruton (née Haynes), and was raised with his two sisters in Marlow and High Wycombe.[9] The Scruton surname had been acquired relatively recently. Jack's father's birth certificate showed him as Matthew Lowe, after Matthew's mother, Margaret Lowe (Scruton's great grandmother); the document made no mention of a father. But Margaret had decided, for reasons unknown, to raise her son as Matthew Scruton instead. Scruton wondered whether she had been employed at the former Scruton Hall in Scruton, Yorkshire, and whether that was where her child had been conceived.[10]

>LOWE (1) Jewish
>Germanized variant of LEVI.

Really makes you think.

[Anonymous No.11456532]

>>11456489
Based.

[Anonymous No.11456550]

>>11456488
Go fuck yourself with whatever implement you deem sufficient

[Anonymous No.11456568]

>>11453531
Pseud, just ike all conservatives.

[Anonymous No.11456595]

>>11453545
>Peterson just fucking weirds me out. He's highly emotional, acts way too fake, and articulates his thoughts in a really weird and chaotic way.

>I feel like Peterson is hiding something

Constantly being rabidly attacked by the mainstream media and rabid leftists probably gives him some of that edgy demeanor.

[Anonymous No.11456615]

>>11456568
*snap*

[Anonymous No.11456619]

>>11453645
There’s not a single argument here, just narcissistic posturing. “Well this brand of conservatism just seems mild and boring, and I’m not a mild boring guy so fuck it!”

[Anonymous No.11456654]

>>11456568
Weak bait. Also
>trump literally has a degree from an Ivy League school
>Merkel is a German conservative
>”””marxist economics”””
>kgb is a degree
>putin is also a conservative.

[Anonymous No.11456902]

The only remaining true conservatives are muslims.

[Anonymous No.11456910]

>>11456902
Disgusting.

[Anonymous No.11456920]

>>11456910
you might dislike them but realise its true. All western conservative are either classical libs or neocons.

[Anonymous No.11456934]

>>11456654
Trump bough his way into Warton and shows none of the signs of good component analysis, spatial reasoning, symbolic reasoning, syntactical complexity, high processing speed, abstraction skill, creativity or genius one would hope was evinced by “dude he has ivy league” my credulous faggot friend

[Anonymous No.11456936]

>>11456654

>”””marxist economics”””

Every economist who isn't a fucking idiot respects Marx for his contributions to the field. Das Kapital isn't the same as the Communist Manifesto.

[Anonymous No.11456938]

>>11456920
No they aren't though.

[Anonymous No.11456944]

>>11456934
4 more years.

[Anonymous No.11456947]

>>11456902
Go to bed Muhammad.

[Anonymous No.11457114]

>>11453531
you should google his name and tobacco

[Anonymous No.11457121]

>>11456568
Merkel is a conservative

[Anonymous No.11457251]

>>11453645
>thinking the degree of truth of a statement is contingent on whether or not such statement stands as a "platform" from which to enthrall devolved moderns

[Anonymous No.11457514]

>>11456489
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.11457669]

>>11456934
Two-and-a-half more years, and probably other four on top of those.