Other than the Bible, what's the best book to learn about God?

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Anonymous Mon Jul 9 23:42:20 2018 No.11438735 [Reply] [Original]

Other than the Bible, what's the best book to learn about God?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 9 23:46:04 2018 No.11438748 Dionysus Divine Names

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 9 23:48:47 2018 No.11438754 >>11438735 Summa Theologica, by Aquinas. the problem is it is fucking hard, I didn't even finished a book but its good

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 02:57:34 2018 No.11439204 >>11438735 Lewis' Mere Christianity Kempis' The Imitation of Christ >>11438748 >>11438754 these two books are way too advanced for a beginner (which I assume you are, no offence)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 02:59:55 2018 No.11439210 The Kingdom of God Is Within You

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 03:01:25 2018 No.11439212 >>11439204 not the first post, but the best post >>11438735 kempis.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 03:14:47 2018 No.11439226 The Quran

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 03:30:44 2018 No.11439258 >>11438735 My diary desu because it's basically the Book of Job :(

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 03:33:14 2018 No.11439261 File: 45 KB, 381x540, fee566eab1910bb4ae6c05cb4f203034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11438735 The Brothers Karamazov

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:10:55 2018 No.11439693 File: 20 KB, 256x300, lao_tzu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The Dao De Jing attributed to Lao Tzu

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:13:02 2018 No.11439703 >>11439693 WHAT IF TAKES FAT TOKE THE TAO THAT CAN BE SPOKEN RIPS THE BONG? IS NOT THE REAL TAO

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:15:34 2018 No.11439708 >>11438735 Read life of the saints, to see some examples of the righteous path.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:18:09 2018 No.11439713 >>11439703 You're only harming yourself with such an attitude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:18:48 2018 No.11439717 >>11439703 What if Acne intensifies Le epic strawman

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:21:26 2018 No.11439728 >>11439713 >>11439717 I actually love the Tao Te Ching. I just wanted to shitpost

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 07:24:57 2018 No.11439743

>>11438754
>>11439204
read either summa contra gentiles, made for us mere mortals (specifically non-belivers aka gentiles, obviously) to understand or concise summa, written by st thomas himself, a 400pg summa theologicae
jumping straight into a 5000 pages, extremely dense theological text as a intro is suicide

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 08:20:08 2018 No.11439861 Saint Augustine’s Confessions duh

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 09:03:35 2018 No.11439953
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>>11438735

An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith
by St John of Damascus

Theology and the Church, by Fr. Dumitru Staniloae

This is fantastic^^^STaniloae is a genius and understands other religions and non-christian philosophies extremely well.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumitru_St%C4%83niloae

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsDk0M-AE1k

For practice, devotion and purification:

The Philokalia (mandatory)
The Pilgrims Way
Imitation of Christ
Abiding in Christ, by Andrew Murray
Purity of Heart, by Kierkegaard

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 09:13:57 2018 No.11439977 The Bhagavad Gita

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 09:15:47 2018 No.11439980 >>11439708 This

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 09:58:13 2018 No.11440085 File: 5 KB, 225x224, 1516430224539.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11439977 Brahman is just the hellenic impersonal Monad with some nonsensical fan-fiction imposed on it. >>11439693 Impersonal, indifferent voids aren't God.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 10:07:09 2018 No.11440115 a history of god by karen armsrong

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 11:04:28 2018 No.11440317 >>11439953 best in this thread

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 11:25:04 2018 No.11440414 >>11439258 You haven't suffered anything close to what Job did. Get on your knees and praise God; stop writing about your petty problems in a diary.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 11:26:55 2018 No.11440423 >>11438735 The Greeks and it's gods not God.

>>	Official Original Satania Post(...) !PpNzKhAKto Tue Jul 10 11:34:30 2018 No.11440452 File: 92 KB, 1280x720, Satania 30.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No book can teach you about the FUTURE DEMON KING SATANIA MUHAHAHAHA

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 11:56:00 2018 No.11440535
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The Red Book
>You lived your own life, but men fail to do so; instead they pray to you and make demands on you and forever remind you that your work is incomplete. Yet your work would be completed if men managed to live their own lives without imitation.
>The time has come when each must do his own work of redemption. Mankind has grown older and a new month has begun.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 12:11:13 2018 No.11440577 >>11438754 The problem with the summa is that although it's for Christianity, it's especially for Catholicism, and so alienates Eastern theology.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 12:14:38 2018 No.11440591 >>11440085 Brahman precedes hellenic culture and was influential on it. See: alexanders conquest of asia minor and pyrrho's plagiarism of the srmana. In my opinion books are the wrong way to go.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 12:16:30 2018 No.11440595 >>11440577 >>11438754 it is specifically western,and therefore extremely brainlet

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 13:47:12 2018 No.11440986 >>11438735 >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 15:01:33 2018 No.11441324 >>11438735 Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: Part 6, Stone Ocean Although you ought to read the first 5 parts for better understanding.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 15:09:38 2018 No.11441362 >>11441324 OP said God, not gayness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 15:12:04 2018 No.11441374 Plato, Plotinus

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 17:28:48 2018 No.11441852

Most related thread I found. I am reading the Gospel of Thomas. It reads at one point:

>Jesus says:
>(1) “Look, a sower went out. He filled his hands (with seeds), (and) he scattered (them).
>(2) Some fell on the path, and the birds came and pecked them up.
>(3) Others fell on the rock, and did not take root in the soil, and they did not put forth ears.
>(4) And others fell among the thorns, they choked the seeds, and worms ate them.
>(5) And others fell on good soil, and it produced good fruit. It yielded sixty per measure and one hundred twenty per measure.”

What is the meaning of those numbers? Is that good, or bad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 17:56:55 2018 No.11441956 File: 8 KB, 201x250, numale.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11440986 OP BTFO

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 18:08:04 2018 No.11442004

The Pilgrim's Progress
Descartes, Leibniz, and Spinoza all talk about God so they might have some interesting ideas for you.
Kierkegaard of course.
St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas (be ready for a hard time unless you read Latin)
recently read a book by one Stace, Mysticism and Philosophy; not directly related to God but Mysticism does have it's place.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 18:58:17 2018 No.11442184 >>11439728 Well stop STOP

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:00:14 2018 No.11442193 File: 123 KB, 800x1024, DcTi4vQXkAA5fA-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11442184 no

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:01:16 2018 No.11442197 >>11441852 That's the Parable of the Sower and it appears in the real Gospels. The numbers mean nothing. Stop reading Gnostic shit

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:07:51 2018 No.11442212

>>11441852
It’s just a figure of speech to say they produced a lot. It’s good. The word of God/truth of esotericism is given to different people, some people can understand it, some can’t. For those who can receive it, it renews their soul and causes great spiritual growth, great growth of inner consciousness.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:08:53 2018 No.11442214 >>11442193 Don’t disrespect the Dao bro, it’ll fuck you up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:19:46 2018 No.11442248 >>11440085 >he didn't read Shankara was misrepresenting the text. Gita is STRICTLY PERSONALIST. read the primary texts yourself brainlet

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:23:05 2018 No.11442257

>>11440085
"Unintelligent men, who do not know Me perfectly, think that I, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Krishna, was impersonal before and have now assumed this personality. Due to their small fund of knowledge, they do not know My higher nature, which is imperishable and supreme."—Sri Krishna,Bhagavad-gita7.24

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:48:13 2018 No.11442328 >>11438735 St. Augustine's City of God Summa Theologica by Thomas "The Bull" Aquinas Letters of St. Ignatius

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 19:49:45 2018 No.11442334
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>>11442248
>Gita is STRICTLY PERSONALIST.

WRONG

Gita 7.24

>Unintelligent men, who know Me not, think that I have assumed this form and personality. Due to their small knowledge, they do not know My higher nature, which is changeless and supreme.

Gita 4.6

>Even though myself unborn, of changeless essence, and the lord of all existence, yet in presiding over nature — which is mine — I am born but through my own maya

Krishna explicitly says that he is not the form and personality that he appears to be and that his true nature is the changeless supreme. Heterodox Dvaita-niggers go home.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 20:08:25 2018 No.11442411 >>11438735 Dostoevsky if you like fiction Kierkegaard if you like philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 20:14:45 2018 No.11442430 Institutes of the Christian Religion

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 20:52:40 2018 No.11442550 >>11442334 I quoted the very same passage here from a proper vaishnava source, faggot. Shankara was a fucking liar >>11442257

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 21:16:16 2018 No.11442628 >>11438735 Gravity and Grace by Simone Weil

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:10:20 2018 No.11442776 The Tanya by rabbi shneur zalman of liadi

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:15:15 2018 No.11442793 >>11442550 avyaktaḿ vyaktim āpannaḿ manyante mām abuddhayaḥ paraḿ bhāvam ajānanto mamāvyayam anuttamam going by the winthrop sargeant edition, where is "personality" or "Krishna"?

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:18:37 2018 No.11442808

>>11442793

avyaktam vyaktim apannam
manyante mam abuddhayah
param bhavam ajananto
mamavyayam anuttamam

SYNONYMS

avyaktam—nonmanifested;vyaktim—personality;apannam—achieved;manyante—think;mam—unto Me;abuddhayah—less intelligent persons;param—supreme;bhavam—state of being;ajanantah—without knowing;mama—My;avyayam—imperishable;anuttamam—the finest.

TRANSLATION

Unintelligent men, who know Me not, think that I have assumed this form and personality. Due to their small knowledge, they do not know My higher nature, which is changeless and supreme.
(ya bitch)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:24:38 2018 No.11442821 >>11438735 >God Which one?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:25:58 2018 No.11442823 >>11442793 Also, git gud https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svayam_Bhagavan

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:44:27 2018 No.11442900

>>11442808
>>11442823
hurr, my vaishnavite interpretation is the only right one, look at these vaishnavite sources

http://sanskritdictionary.com/?q=vyakti"&lang=sans&iencoding=iast&action=Search

Your translation omits the first word avyaktaḿ, and the contrast avyaktaḿ vyaktim.

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 22:55:12 2018 No.11442935

>>11439261
Alyosha wasn't blond.
>Alyosha was then the picture of health, a sturdy, red-cheeked, clear-eyed nineteen year old boy. He was very handsome, too, and slender, above average height, with dark-brown hair, a regular although rather long face, and shiny dark-gray wide-set eyes, which gave him a thoughtful and serene look.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:00:41 2018 No.11442957 >>11442900 Gosh, you're right, I should trust shaivas and kaulas to properly translate books which center on Vishnu and Vishnu Avatars. Obviously Vaishnavas would know nothing about their own central text.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:13:12 2018 No.11443009 >>11438735 The book you wrote yourself ;) >>11440591 The Bhagavad Gita was written in the 2nd century BC. Aristotle died before it was even written.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:18:41 2018 No.11443035 >>11439226 This desu

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:25:06 2018 No.11443062

>>11442957
>Gita is STRICTLY PERSONALIST.
>actually there's more than one way of--
>read the primary texts yourself
>but only in my vaishnava translations

i'm not even that guy but how the fuck is shankara shaiva or kaula? you're the one acting sectarian.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:26:48 2018 No.11443071 >>11443009 What is oral tradition?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:28:39 2018 No.11443077 >>11443062 Jesus you brainlet, look at fucking picture of Shankara. He is covered in Shiva Tilak and has a Shaiva Trident. Advaita is shaiva. Herpy deep dippity durrr

Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:37:58 2018 No.11443110

>>11443009

The Rig-Veda which is pre-homer describes Brahman, most of the youngest layers of the Vedas like the Aranyakas, Brahmanas and the oldest Upanishads likely underwent a long oral tradition that originated pre-homer before being written down. The following passage from the Rig-Veda (mid-2nd millennium BC) gives a description of Brahman - "All this is He-what has been and what shall be. He is the Lord of immortality. Though He has become all this, in reality He is not all this. For truly, He is beyond the world. The whole series of universes-past, present, and future-express His glory and power; but He transcends His own glory. All beings of the universe form, as it were, only a portion of His being; the greater part is invisible and unchangeable. He who is beyond all predicates appears as the relative universe; He appears as all sentient and insentient beings".

It is true many important Hindu texts were written during classical Greece but the most important philosophical and metaphysical foundations for those were already in place as texts being passed down orally before the fall of the Minoan civilization.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:38:29 2018 No.11443113 >>11443062 Also Shankara was from Kerala, a Tamil southernmost part of India. Tamils are Dravidian, not Aryan.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 10 23:42:41 2018 No.11443135 >>11443077 >>11443113 I might as well be arguing with a protestant.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 00:48:01 2018 No.11443343 >>11438735 The Unseen Realm: Recovering the Supernatural Worldview of the Bible by Michael S. Heiser

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 03:33:01 2018 No.11443703 >>11442212 Thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 05:06:17 2018 No.11443912 >>11438735 You can't learn about something that doesn't exist.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 05:09:28 2018 No.11443918 >>11443912 1. Put down your fedora 2. Even if God didn't exist, that statement is still incoherent. People get PhDs in mythology and Brothers Grimm, are you claiming those people haven't learned anything?

Anonymous Wed Jul 11 05:16:28 2018 No.11443934

>>11443918
If you do research on, say, Sherlock Holmes, it is not the case that there exists an x such that x lives on Baker Street and x solves crimes and you have an epistemic connection to x, but you develop interpretations on the mythology of Sherlock Holmes and its connection to other social phenomena. Now replace x with God.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 05:17:33 2018 No.11443936 >>11443918 And the knee jerk fedora response is pretty 2014, grow up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 05:22:00 2018 No.11443945 >>11442821 There is only one Gody friend.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 12:18:24 2018 No.11445079 >>11443912 BASED

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 16:17:10 2018 No.11446117 File: 43 KB, 419x648, 0849943272.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11438735 Ravi Zacharias

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 16:19:02 2018 No.11446122 >>11438735 The Quran

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 11 16:27:14 2018 No.11446149 god's diary desu

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