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Mature Women Edition
>last sff book you read with an older woman and younger male?
>how was it?
>what do you prefer in sff, supple older women or younger fawns?

FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/0935e4cd59/105363.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21326.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/b44928ae11/114401.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

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>>11412373
>>11399047
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>> No.11420750
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'Downloads: https://b-ok.xyz/s/?q=the+stars+my+destination

>> No.11420755

>>11420685
This thread seems early and the subject is shit but alright.

There's a web novel I'm reading at the moment called spirit vessel that is just martial arts harem shit but the most recurring character is an older woman the mc has made out with.

It's alright.

>> No.11420756

I want to marry a 40 years younger version of Hobb

>> No.11420763

>>11420755
>This thread seems early
The old thread is at page 9 and not bumping, what are you talking about?

>> No.11420772
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>Nyneave's temper faded as they walked on considering the foibles of the weaker sex - men of course.

>> No.11420778

>>11420755
dont you get tired reading mostly garbage all the time

>> No.11420809

sanderfag a hack

>> No.11420833

>>11420685
>last sff book you read with an older woman and younger male?
I don't think I've read any where this is given any kind of attention. I think there's a throwaway line in Armor about the MC boning some MILF, but that's it.

>how was it?
I would like to read more about younger men and older women. It is my fetish.

>what do you prefer in sff, supple older women or younger fawns?
Supple older women, 35 to 45.Give me them yummy mummies.

>> No.11420853

>>11420763
Yeah you're right, didn't realize it was on page 9 already.

>>11420778
Eh, you can only re-read botns so many times anon. Nothing released in the west during the last five years has meant shit to me.

Emporer of solo play and reverend insanity are miles better than that throne of glass shit which gets spammed here and spirit vessel at least gives me a laugh.

>> No.11420865

>>11420853
I wish I could understand the greatness of botns.

>> No.11420870

>>11420853
>spammed here
it's only 1 person posting it

>> No.11420884

>>11420870
I've seen it show up multiple times in the same thread, although that anon tricked me into reading it so I might just be overly sensitive.

>> No.11420926

>>11420884
Because the same one (or two) people are shilling it multiple times in the same thread.

>> No.11420937
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11420937

Once again asking: anyone here read Viriconium and willing to share their impressions about it?

>> No.11421026

>>11420937
the cover looks pretty good, adding this to my list

>> No.11421045
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11421045

Anyone else here find that the Corum saga is talked about far less often than it should be? I'd say I actually prefer the first three stories to a lot of the Elric stuff, but it seems that Elric is all a lot of people experience of Moorcock's writing

>> No.11421057

>>11420937
The amount of shilling this series gets elsewhere is equal to the shilling of Book of the New Sun gets here. They're both pretentious projects with a gimmick to get them talked about. They're both good, but nowhere near as god-tier as those shilling them. I'd recommend both series, but don't go in expecting to be blown away.

>> No.11421174

I want to drown my sorrows away in science fantasy for the rest of my life.

>> No.11421202

>>11421057
>nowhere near as god-tier as those shilling them.
aw, thanks sweetiepocket :)

>> No.11421223

>>11421202
>sweetiepocket
Catfag are you going to try and force this meme now? Did you run out of catgirls to read? Did you read the new Wild Wastes?

>> No.11421225
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>it's a Severian ponders something chapter
Stop it, I'm low iq. I don't understand what you're trying to understand.

>> No.11421260

>>11421223
>implying
I've, uh. Never actually read botns
or Wild Wastes. Maybe when all finished.

>> No.11421261

>>11420853
Open up the web archive and look up every pulp mag collection there ever was. It is full of classics of sci-fi and even has some pre-tolkien fantasy to be found if you look hard enough.

>> No.11421274

Reading BOTNS for the first time.

Man, was I missing out by waiting.

>> No.11421288

>>11421223
>Did you run out of catgirls to read?
There are always the next two books in The Endurance Cycle or whatever the fuck that godawful series is called, but I'm not touching those. I prefer furries, anyways, but everyone's too pussy to write those in.

>>11421260
You should read BOTNS. If people tell you that it's not great, they're probably brainlets.

>>11421274
Enjoy it! One of the few good things I found through this general.

>> No.11421330

>>11421288
>>11421260
>trusting the opinion of people who use the word brainlet

>> No.11421344
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For my web novel reading bros out there, would it be weird for a western author to use Chinese names and naming sense when writing wuxia?

>philip smith cultivating his gut cave

>>11420926
Probably.

>> No.11421351

>>11421330
>trusting the opinion of people who use the word sweetpocket

>> No.11421353
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11421353

Has anyone ITT read pic related? I picked it up at the local thrift shop today after reading the back. I normally don't read anything written after 1950, but this one looked like a fun relaxing novel. I'm not expecting great prose, just some sci-fi noir.

>Problems arise when sudden influx of refugees worshiping a strange God begin to cause all sorts of problems

>> No.11421360

>>11421344
It depends on setting and story. Are they in China? Or a chinese-esque fantasy setting? Does the story involve cultivation of inner strength or physical prowess? If you answered yes to any of these, using Chinese names is probably better than western names (assuming you do your research and use them properly)

>> No.11421369

>>11421344
not to me, but I'm a sinophile. I named my neopets and MMO characters after RoTK characters.

>> No.11421414

>>11421353
>Problems arise when sudden influx of refugees worshiping a strange God begin to cause all sorts of problems
so its a book about sweden and germany?

>> No.11421421
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>>11421360
It's western setting but with cultivation, think arthurian but instead of a sword from a stone it's magical drugs and a breathing technique.

It's going to be hotfire garbage either way.

>>11421369
That's inspiring, anon.

>> No.11421440
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>>11420833
>yummy mummies
Wow you fetishists are creepy fuckers.

>>11421353
Is that a praying mantis with jet-engines?

>> No.11421486

>>11421414
>Bengal Station: an exotic spaceport that dominates the ocean between India and Burma. Based Nazi Jeff Vaughan, is employed by the spaceport authorities to monitor incoming craft for refugees from other worlds. When he discovers a sinister cult that worships an mysterious alien god, he's drawn into an deadly investigation. Not only must he attempt to solve the murders, but he has to save himself from the psychopath out to kill him.

Sounds like it anon.

>>11421440
IDK, haven't read it yet

>>11421421
I appreciate that desu. I like naming the girls Diaochan if it's not taken. Cao Cao is always taken :(

>> No.11421498
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>>11421045
It's been forever since I read the Corum books but yeah they never get mentioned. I still prefer the Elric books but Corum is a sold series. I also liked the Hawkmoon books which are also never talked about.

>> No.11421518

>>11421414
>Bengal Station: an exotic spaceport that dominates the ocean between India and Burma. Based Nazi Jeff Vaughan, is employed by the spaceport authorities to monitor incoming craft for refugees from other worlds. When he discovers a sinister cult that worships an mysterious alien god, he's drawn into an deadly investigation. Not only must he attempt to solve the murders, but he has to save himself from the psychopath out to kill him.

Sounds like it anon.

>>11421440
Yes, flying towards a Minecraft beacon.

>>11421421
I appreciate that desu~

>> No.11421519
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>>11421045
It's a nice series but i never liked the sci fi elements. They felt lazy and out of place.

>> No.11421528
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Post horrible artworks

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>>11421528
A S T H E T I C

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>>11421528

>> No.11421641

Let me start off by saying, that there is an absolute ton of sexual violence in this book. Even to the point that I started skipping over sections were I felt it was just more of the same. That isn't the only sex in the book however, as there are times when Danica (who is really Danic a male warrior that is switched into a female elf) willingly has sexual relations with others. It also got tiring for these experiences and I would skip over some of these as well.
The problem was that the story overall had me pretty well hooked. Seeking revenge on the magician who did this (and the desire to get her original body back) leads her on a quest through the land where she encounters honorless caravan leaders, brutal nomads, desert peoples, and mages.
While the sex is plenty, character growth is not. It is almost at the very end of the book before we realize that reasons Danica does the things she does is her own fault and not the author's poor characterization.
I was getting really disappointed until that moment. I don't want to spoil the moment, and hopefully I haven't given anything away. I would recommend it if you are not offended by the very graphic sex descriptions, but it isn't anything ground breaking or must read. Just kind of middle of the road. That being said, I AM going to read the next book. It already has my attention.

>> No.11421677

A young, shy girl is gifted an item that transports her to the fantasy land of the gorgeous muscular men, where she becomes a drunkard nympho. That's the gist of it. Some parts of the adventure were interesting, but it was constantly interrupted by some of the most boring sex scenes I've read in my life. Girl enters a tavern, handsome guy sits on her table, they have sex. Seriously, this happens 5-6 times in the book. Given the skills, the tools and the chance for a fresh start, for adventure and exploration in a new world, our girl choose to drink and have sex with muscular men. The two things she could've done in her world just as easily.
A wasted opportunity, that pretty much sums this book up.

>> No.11421718

>>11421641
>>11421677
Literal what.

>> No.11421720
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>>11421528

>> No.11421739

>>11421718
He's posting bad reviews of good stories.

>> No.11421805

>>11420853
Read Too Like the Lightning

>> No.11421948

Females getting into Fantasy were a mistake. Every other word that spews out of their mouth usually involves the term sexist, racist, misogynistic, racist, male power fantasy, cis white male, etc. I could go on and on abut these vile cunts are seeping into fantasy and it has to stop. I never give them shit for whatever badly written garbage they want to read, why are they giving me shit for reading a work that appeals to me?

>> No.11421973

>>11421948
Bad bait

>> No.11421980

>>11421948
yikes

>> No.11422030

>>11420937
I've read it. It's basically BOTNS's little brother who never lived up to the achievements of senpai. If BOTNS didn't exist it would get tons of attention; unfortunately Harrison got wolfecucked.

>> No.11422233

>>11420853
if you like chinkshit read warlock of the magus world and age of adepts. Its like reading pulp fiction written by someone with no concept of right and wrong.

>> No.11422269
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I've been posting on /lit/ for years and I've never even opened this general. I think of you as that weird clique in school that kept to themselves and nobody really bothered me. Even the bullies wouldn't go near them. You're like weird rat people that live in the sewers and everyone pretends they don't exist.

>> No.11422296

>>11422269
Don't you mean the Alphas that refused to associate with (You), the bullies, and got all the freaky bitches? Yeah, I think that's what you meant.

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>>11422269
i used to be a /lit/ elitist until I decided to go into stem instead of english and took the sff pill. Keep thinking youre intellectual for reading books with purple prose and a non-traditional structure though sweety.

>> No.11422308

>>11422269

>You're like weird rat people that live in the sewers and everyone pretends they don't exist.

Man-thing speaks nonsense-nonsense.

>> No.11422312

>>11422269
>You're like weird rat people that live in the sewers and everyone pretends they don't exist.
Welcome, we are quite content with this.

>> No.11422344

>>11422296
Sure. I never had a problem with you nerds. I used to laugh at people for watching Chinese cartoons, collecting Pokemon cards, or any of those fringe hobbies, but sci-fi... I don't know what it is about it. Perhaps they weren't an easy target, unlike goths - when you're a boy and wear lipstick in school, you're asking for it.

>>11422297
I guess my journey has been the opposite to yours: I actually fell for the STEM meme myself and ended up doing engineering at university. Now I'm rebelling by reading philosophy and shitting on science. Hopefully by the time I'm 30 I'll have a more moderate view.

>> No.11422533

It has been a while since I plowed through Howard's Conan and Wagner's Kane and I'm craving for more of the same without rereading it. Any recommendations?

Already read Moorcock, Elric was way too angsty and moody
Have already read Fafhrd & The Grey Mouser

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>>11422269
>You're like weird rat people that live in the sewers and everyone pretends they don't exist.
Shit nigga don't tell me no one reads shitty fantasy or sci-fi in the US of A?

>> No.11422558

>>11422269
>You're like weird rat people that live in the sewers and everyone pretends they don't exist.
you realize everyone knows about the sewer jews in new york right?
its not exactly a secret. they extract the iron and copper in our excrements to mint shekels out of them.

>> No.11422562

>>11422269
Nice of you to come by. Daily reminder that Gravity's Rainbow is sci-fi.

>> No.11422591

>>11422562
Gravity Rainbow is "speculative fiction", you pleb.

>> No.11422617

>>11422591
kys harlan

>> No.11422653

>>11422591
>speculative fiction
Hahahahahaha

>> No.11422656

>>11422591
The only thing it speculates about is what the inside of your own ass looks like.

>> No.11422657

>>11422617
>>11422653
Don't make me slap you boy.

>> No.11422690

>>11422656
Pls leave your gay fantasies at home anon.

>> No.11422700

>>11422690
ur mom gae

>> No.11422779
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>>11422700
Translation pls.

>> No.11422851

>>11422779
The wording and content of your post leads me to believe that the woman who spawned you is a member of the Gaelic race.

>> No.11422906
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11422906

This is my first time here in /SFFG/ and it's the only time I have actually understood the humour/shitposts on this board. The philosophy threads undoubtedly contain a ton of shitposting, but it all goes over my head. Typically I come to /lit/ to actually read intelligent posts without getting to a /his/ level of eccentricity. But the shitposting in this thread is bredy gud. Going to make it a regular visit from now on.

>> No.11422910

>>11422906
The best part is we read what we want. We don't read to try impress people and act superior.

>> No.11422922

>>11422779
bro that reminds me howard the duck had a real well produced soundtrack, who worked on that shit i bet they turned out famous, unfortunately since its fucking howard the duck its corny as hell, but u can sense the person had talent tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0oeY1KMY9U

>> No.11422927

>>11422910
Oh, true. I don't read anything written before 1950, my favorite SF authors are Asimov Bradbury and Clarke. but that's because it's what I like.
I picked up my first 'modern' novel today in years! see >>11421353 Looking forward to a lite read ;)

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>>11422851
>Gaelic
>race
You thought I was a member of the Caledonian mafia? Weird.

>>11422922
Howard the Duck was the freakiest, most unsettling shit I ever had the displeasure to watch. Even Frozen wasn't as bad.

>> No.11422984

>>11422960
>freaky and unsettling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHx2nLFMAzE 30:00

>> No.11422992

>>11422960
>freaky and unsettling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHx2nLFMAzE [Embed] 28:00

>> No.11423005

>>11422657
No seriously, speculative fiction as a term is top pseud. It's for people who think themselves to high and mighty to admit that they're writing low fantasy or sci-fi.

>> No.11423048
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>>11422992
Nigga I ain't clicking that shit.

>>11423005
Maybe it's time to start reading those high and mighty instead of this trash.

>> No.11423050

Wheel of Time has not had nearly as much spanking in it as I was told.

>> No.11423057

>>11422591
H-Harlan? Aren't you supposed to be dead?

>> No.11423063

>>11422591
GR is just another historical fiction WW2 novel

>> No.11423071
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>>11423057
I am not Harlan Ellison.
I am the ghost of past good taste (not that you had any to begin with).

>>11423063
Exactly.

>> No.11423176
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Anybody read this yet?

>> No.11423184

>>11423048
Most of my reading is actually not this trash but high and mighty.

>> No.11423192

>reading female authors
My sides. I hope none of you actually do this.

>> No.11423253

>>11423176
Trashiest of YA trash

>> No.11423259

>>11423176
Is there any remotely decent superhero book that isn't Worm?

>> No.11423265

>>11423259
What is Worm?

Soon I will be Invincible is a good superhero book

>> No.11423275

>>11423259
>worm
>decent

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>>11423275
Yeah, I don't think it's decent. I think it's fucking great. It's the only superhero related thing I like despite all the flaws.

>> No.11423301

>>11423275
>implying worm isnt better than most sf/f books

>> No.11423318

>>11423259
there arent any good hero novels but theres plenty villain/anti-hero ones that are good.
zorro
firestarter
super sales on super heroes
so not a hero
numbers
d-list supervillain
the shadow master
hard luck hank(technically)
dark tower (technically)
the fixer

cant think of more of the top of my head but im pretty sure i missed some

>> No.11423321

>>11423259
windrunner is pretty good as far as hero premises go turns pretty anti-hero towards the middle though.

>> No.11423384

It's finally happening /sffg/. After 4 years of struggling the pieces for that stupid flavor story are finally falling into place. I almost have a plot for the first book!

>>11423318
>zorro on a list of superhero novels
brother...

>>11423301
it is, but that's not exactly high praise. 90% of everything is garbage. Worm could only barely be passing and it would still be better than most

>>11422269
nothing wrong with rat people anon. some of my best friends are rodent-americans

>>11423005
I haven't seen the term used in a pretentious context but I think it's useful to have on hand when you have a story that doesn't fit neatly into scifi or fantasy, and can't be brushed off as X with Y elements. Alternate history, steampunk, weird fiction and combinations thereof tend to need their grey-area taxon

>> No.11423451

>>11423384
>Alternate history, steampunk, weird fiction and combinations thereof tend to need their grey-area taxon
All of those could easily be categorized as either fantasy, sci-fi or sci-fantasy. The only genre beneath speculative fiction that I feel does not fit in neither is magical realism.

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>>11422906
See if you can understand this meta meme.

>> No.11423472

>>11423451
>magical realism
that's just fantasy with minimal fantasy elements

>science fantasy
okay, I'll give you that. Maybe instead speculative fiction should just be the umbrella term for scifi, fantasy, weird fiction and supernatural horror

>> No.11423478

>>11423472
Horror falls under either sci-fi or fantasy.

>> No.11423486

>>11423478
horror is its own genre

>> No.11423493

>>11423455
aspiring authors come to /lit/ and angrily beat up on /sffg/ and people with attractive ideas, while /sffg/ and good ideas are completely innocent? I don't know... Halp me

>> No.11423507

>>11423472
>Maybe instead speculative fiction should just be the umbrella term for scifi, fantasy, weird fiction and supernatural horror
Basically genre fiction for people who are insulted by the term genre fiction. But I'll admit that not all SF&F qualify as genre fiction, so you're right and I have to admit that the term speculative fiction have a place.

>> No.11423515

>>11423507
I thought genre fiction also included mysteries, thrillers, non-supernatural horror... basically all forms of fiction that are meant as a form of entertainment as opposed to a pathetic cry for attention

>> No.11423542

>>11423515
The generally accepted definition is works written with the intention to fit a specific genre. Sanderson's fantasy books are a perfect example. The generally accepted /lit/ definition is either anything that's not non-fiction or anything you do not like.

>> No.11423600

>>11421225
I just finished the first book of the series and I'm not sure about what the re-read will uncover for me that I haven't already gotten.

The best chapters for me were the jungle garden hut and the picking of the avern. I feel like if anything will be uncovered it will be some dramatic irony about the setting which you couldn't possibly know until you finish the series.

Surprised at how Wolfe cut the first book with so much left undeveloped. I'm hoping that they get into the prophecy that the priestesses were talking about more as well as the invasion to the north. The world feels so small yet infinitely complex.

>> No.11423693

>>11423600
The world will get bigger. And there's minor stuff in the first books that get more meaning as you read the later books.

>> No.11423709

Can I have something where the yandere is the main focus?

>> No.11423718

>>11421677
>our girl choose to drink and have sex with muscular men*.
*ogres and centaurs

>> No.11423728

>>11423515
greenogrewithcamera.jpg
Come on man, stop trying so hard to be a pleb.

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>>11422233
I've read warlock of the magus world and it's all pretty standard chinese literature.

What a lot of people don't get is that china, as a country is EDGY as fuck. Great place to visit and live in but if you're poor it's pretty much a dystopian future.

>Female children are still regularly murdered despite ending the single child policy and are also sold in bulk by orphanages as "mystery meat."
>Because of chinas laws regarding motor accidents drivers will often "finish off" their victims after hitting a pedestrian.
>etc, because this isn't meant to be an anit china post

>> No.11423866

>>11423859
Yea I watched some videos of these chinese towns where people were living in partially built concrete buildings
Nothing at all was maintained
They "worshipped" in a century old temple but it wasn't cleaned, never repainted, etc

Very different world to what we consider normal in the west.

>> No.11423900

>>11423866
ADVChina?

It's true, the place is fucking crazy once you step outside the cities. The whole place feels like everyone is trying one-up the next guy or screw him out of his money. Everything is about appearance with substance being a distant second.

>> No.11423909

>>11423472
>Maybe instead speculative fiction should just be the umbrella term for scifi, fantasy, weird fiction and supernatural horror
It is.

>> No.11424025

>>11423909
I know it is. I probably should have typed "SHOULD" instead of "should" to emphasize the conclusiveness in the statement. Sorry for the miscommunication

>>11423728
I don't doubt that there are people who read the classics for fun, but I think a lot of them just just want to be able to say that they've read it.

Even that isn't really a problem – I read Journey To The West and The Arabian Nights for the same reason – but it's when people use it as a justification to belittle others that I draw the line.

Generally speaking, the classics tend to attract people who do just that because it's something that we see as both intelligent and cultured, but – unlike, say, particle physics – is something that anyone can understand given a relatively short time

>>11423709
I've heard good things about Let The Right One In

>>11423859
I guess crazy shit happens when you're trying to be soviet russia and victorian london at the same time

They're really growing so fast and I doubt they have the infrastructure or wealth distribution to support it. The sheer size of the country probably doesn't help.

>> No.11424263

>>11424025
It doesn't help that their economy is dependent upon manipulating their currency just to keep the money flowing in from western manufacturing.

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>>11420685

I started writing a litRPG and posting it online, but it's shit and I ran out of steam.

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>>11423493
What about this?

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>>11423493
Or?

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>>11423493
????

>> No.11424418

>>11423859
And in about 10-15 years they're going to have to deal with something like 40 million men who'll never get married because of the gender gap caused by the One Child policy. If you're wealthy you can just buy a Russian woman but that's only going to be a option for a few people. I've also heard that apparently Chinese businessmen in Africa are sticking around and getting married instead of going back to China.

>>11424263
Manufacturing for the west you mean.

And yeah it's pretty amazing. You can get a container full of stuff shipped from China to pretty much any port in the world for under $500. I know somebody who runs a gun company and they bought a 40 foot container full of unfinished AR15 receivers from a Chinese foundry for several thousand dollars, but it was only like $25 per receiver in the end. We did strength tests on a couple of them and the aluminum quality was good, very close to what you'd expect from a Korean or western foundry.

>> No.11424610

>>11420685
I thought the thumbnail was Rosanne Barr.

>> No.11425110

>>11423859
China is awesome.

>Urbanites patrol rural areas in vans kidnapping children, they break their legs before selling them into slavery
>The cults are absolutely insane and make Scientology look sane

>> No.11425116

>>11425110
Don't forget the gangs of dancing grandmas.

>> No.11425208

>>11425110
>>11425116
How could I forget that.

>>11424418
Yeah, manufacturing intended for the west. It's weird how hard boomers are letting them fuck the entire world.

>> No.11425267

>>11423859
dont ever help anyone if you are in china.
if you help someone you are responsible for them by law. someone tripped and broke their hip?
you better nope the fuck a way as fast as you can or you get sidled with the responsibility to bring them to a hospital AND pay their fees.

>> No.11425307

China makes an interesting case study in how a dystopian government would actually work. Compare China to any YA Dystopia that came out when that was the fashion, like the Hunger Games.

>> No.11425442

>>11424025
>Let The Right One In
Thanks. I will put it into my backlog. Any other recommendation?

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>tfw slow as fuck updates on Chinese web novels

>>11425267
Yeah quite a few people have given me similar advice, it's weird how the world can turn out like that. It's not like the chinese couldn't directly mirror the west right now if they wanted too.

>> No.11425703

https://youtu.be/EmY_TRlO3MU?t=5
>First person point of view

>> No.11425765

>>11425703
?? You post to show us the token black guy?

>> No.11425770

>>11425765
I I I

>> No.11426021

>>11425442
not in terms of yandere. sorry.

>> No.11426078

>>11424360
aspiring authors are doing brain surgery while sffg is shit posting and the mods doing nothing

>>11424388
no fucking clue
>>11424396
also no fucking clue.

Did you make these? they're pretty raw no offense. needs a PHD in Memetics to overwork them for you.. more pepe, less 'big brain nibba'

>> No.11426089

>"Rationalist" calls a book bad because characters aren't computer programs that do the most logical and efficient thing possible

>> No.11426120

>>11425703
of course the black kid is playing drums and bass.. also the 'supporting actor' in this ad next to the thing actually being sold in this American advert.


To all the chinaposters, I am a sinophile and I am reading RoTK right now. I just finished chapter 18, this shit is fucking amazing, I haven't been this addicted to a book since I was ~15 y.o reading Harry Potter volume 5. Anyone here read RoTK? Does it count as fantasy? There are sorcerers and shamans, military geniuses and tacticians, mandate of heaven follows a astrological-like system where earth supplants fire etc. Anyone, anyone?

Also for the China posters, I'm going to ask my kik language exchange group about the 'don't help anyone' thing to see if it's true. I'm sure they'll have some party-line counter-argument to why it's a good rule that the helper should have to pay the dudes medical bills.

>> No.11426181

What're your views on Urban Fantasy?

>> No.11426189

>>11426181
trash. Unless its about someone independently discovering magic and then using it to conquer the non magic world. It's always super triggering how all the normies just somehow dont notice the magic shit.

>> No.11426199

>>11426181
not believeable in a modern setting

>> No.11426211

I've finished Iron Dragon's Daughter, what are some similar books in tone? It was very depressive all around, Jane really spiralled downwards.

>> No.11426619

>>11426181
struggles finding a balance between urban and fantasy

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Is there a sf or f series longer or equal to three novels that clearly has absolutely nothing unnecessary since the author spent at least 20 years devising the plot so that everything fits together perfectly from start to finish?

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>>11420685
I started reading this. I haven't been an avid reader for a while. I'm making an effort to get back into it. I'm not too far into it but it's pretty good ready.

>> No.11426734

>>11426707
It hasn't even begun

>> No.11426851

>>11426625
Does The Culture count?

>> No.11426873

>friend of a friend recommends me some new science fiction stuff
>literally every single thing on the list is all about "what if they were women and they were battling gender stereotypes"

The year is 3000 fuck all, I don't want to even hear about this shit, let alone read about it. On a side note, my friends is thirsty as the Sahara if he's tolerating that kind of horseshit.

>> No.11426953

>>11423176
listening to these books is like swimming in shit, its disgusting but warm

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>>11426078
Of course they are raw. It's homegrown memes, from a backwater general.

>> No.11426991

>>11426734
No spoilers but what do you mean? Goes deep?

>> No.11427132

>>11426991
I can't say anything without spoilers, but buckle the fuck up

>> No.11427226

I there any book or new novel or whatever that is only about main characters traveling through world that doesn't have Tolkien races only and has decently built world?

>> No.11427232

>>11427226
Eye of the World, no dwarves or elves.

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>>11427226

>> No.11427331

>>11427226
Not a single one.

>> No.11427336

>>11427226
every xianxia story

>> No.11427337

>>11427226
unironically way of kings

>> No.11427344

>>11427226
Daniel Abraham's Dagger and Coin stuff has a nicely different setup with 13 divergent branches of humanity, but is let down by the writing.

>> No.11427380

>>11427226
The Crimson Queen doesn't have Tolkien races
it's heavily influenced with chinese stuff

>> No.11427385

>>11427226
Wheel of Time brah

>> No.11427392

>>11422269
Here in /sffg/ we refer to you guys as outer /lit/. Here we have an actual community where people share and talk about the books they read, whereas in outer /lit/ there's basically no real discussion and it's just pretentious reddit dipshits posturing for intellectual credibility.

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>>11422269
What >>11427392 said is true. We call you guys outer lit.

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Hey guys I'm thinking of reading lotr. Is it good?

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>>11427324
GOD DAMNIT!! I wish I could shoop! this is too perfect.

>> No.11427568

>>11427533
Yes but it isn't fun to read.

>> No.11427637

>>11427533
Dumbledore dies

>> No.11427651

Be sure to temper your dao heart every day

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>>11427324
>>11427562
over 9000 hours in mspaint

>> No.11427709

>>11427651
My dragon age origins heart was broken when dragon age 2 came out. Sorry anon

>> No.11427717

>>11427709
those games sucked

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>> No.11427777

>>11427748
Unreadable

>> No.11427796

>>11427748
I don't think "not enough craps" is real..
sodomy of young boys has been common throughout history & is the norm in muslim/african countries

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>>11427796
>implying Catholics and eastern orthodox don't exist

>> No.11427836

>>11427803
Why people here make fun of this guy? Legitimaly curious since I don't know jack about him.

>> No.11427857

>>11427836
well for one he looka like-a jew

>> No.11427887

>>11427836
Read his blog

>> No.11427902

>>11427887
I read authors books, not their blogs lol

>> No.11427907

>>11427887
Can you give me the quick rundown?

>> No.11427928

>>11427907
He was literally le turbo fedora. Now he's le turbo fedora + catholicism.

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you have one(1) post to recc me a good chinkshit novel with 800+ translated chapters or this cat dies.

id prefer non cultivation ones, usually i enjoy the wizard ones more but ill take what I can get until next semester starts and i stop neeting. [\spoiler]

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>>11428186
the library at mount char

>> No.11428317

>>11426189
Any examples of that?

>> No.11428333

>>11428317
the conquering thing? no, which is unfortunate because I'd love to read it tbqh.

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>>11428333
Damn, I want something like The Magicians without the MC getting cucked all the time

>> No.11428352

>>11428346
im reading that now. It would be so much better if the mc wasnt a self insert of the cringe author.

>> No.11428355

>>11428346
>MC conquers the normiesphere
>pure angelic antagonist girl tries to stop him
>gets corrupted and falls for the MC

>> No.11428372

>>11426625
The first Amber series Roger Zelazny is pretty good. The second lost its way badly. I still liked it but I’m a fan and don’t recommend it.

Vurt, Pollem, and Nymphomation is a great trilogy. They’re related, in the same place, but not a continuing set of characters. Each book is self contained so there’s no fat that needs trimming

>> No.11428374

>No urban fantasy with worldbuilding and magic like Pact minus the ridiculous amount of back to back fights while having more/better characterization

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>>11428374
>its a wildbows flawed work is still the best in its genre episode

the leaf needs to be stopped

>> No.11428408

>>11428374
Mother of Learning is pretty good, but it’s just fantasy-fantasy, not urban-fantasy.

>> No.11428422

>>11426873
What books? I’m skeptical and think you might just be biased.

>> No.11428447

>>11428377
Not like there's that much competition in capeshit, urban fantasy, and biopunk to begin with.

>> No.11428453

>>11428422

Calculating Stars.

>> No.11428454

>>11427392
>/sffg/
>real discussion
lmaoooo

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>>11421528
This cover is the reason I no longer order shit from a bookstore.

A fucking LEG.

>> No.11428486

>>11428186
library of heavens path
emperors domination
desolate era
coiling dragon

>> No.11428503

>>11421641
What book?

>> No.11428516

>>11427568
You need to ween yourself off Sanderson.

>> No.11428627
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does this get good? I'm 8 chapters in and I'm tired of the main character

>> No.11428642

>>11428627
no it gets worse
and the third book of the trilogy was never released, the author is a dedicated anti-trumping blogger, who does shit like go to con's

>> No.11428650

>>11428627
No. It gets praise only because it is an adult themed replacement for Harry Potter

>> No.11428681

Books are like 50 chapters
Meanwhile webnovels are like 1000

Clearly webnovels are superior

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>>11428681
The waiting though.

>tfw you start a new series thinking it updates 3 times a day
>it's twice a week

Fucking spirit vessel.
Your sister.

>> No.11428928

Anyone got some good sci-fi music?
Frank black wrote some great ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLiqF_cBJVA

>> No.11429025

>>11428503
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/21066573-the-elfmaid-s-curse

>> No.11429029

>>11428928
synthwave tends to go for scifi, albeit mostly cyberpunk

>> No.11429045

>>11425110
>The cults are absolutely insane and make Scientology look sane
not to derail the thread or anything, but give a couple of examples to read up about

>> No.11429100

>>11428627
it gets worse honestly

>> No.11429139

>>11427226
Lies of Locke Lamora and its sequels. Every book is a different part of the world. It's not gonna be finished until 2050 though.

>> No.11429208

>>11427392
>>11427459
Yes https://www.reddit.com/r/NoStupidQuestions/comments/8jlka1/what_is_outerlit/

>> No.11429255

>>11428642
What does him hating trump have to do with anything? Trump supporters hate trump. You pollies feel 4chan is some sort of hivemind? People in 4chan hate trump. Stop behaving like some author hating trump means anything. If you said rothfuss is a gross procrastinator, and goes to as much events as possible to get out of writing, then fine. But why you fucking pol scum got to come pretending like the rest of 4chan likes you or agrees with you is beyond me.

>> No.11429256

>>11428928
>>>/mu/

>> No.11429266

>>11429208
Why does redshit have 4chen stuff?

>> No.11429290

>>11429255
lurk more

>> No.11429890

Just finished waldo rabbit 3. Wasn't as fun as the first two. Too much Melissa? Too much of one place? I don't know, but the hi-jinx misunderstandings were not as prevalent.

>> No.11430089

>>11429890
i think it was just enough melissa. alice got the short end of the stick in the book in my opinion. liked the bit about the dark elf abusing gronk.
kinda wished it was a bit longer though.

>> No.11430167

>>11429255
Because he’s literally said he won’t write another book while trump is in office because he’s too busy “resisting”?

>> No.11430206

>>11430167
#Resistance makes me want to kill all liberals
t. Commie

>> No.11430226

>>11421057
>New Sun

I just finished Shadow & Claw. Does Sword & Citadel get any better?

Shadow & Claw had so many unexplained things, that I felt reading a collection of Deus Ex Machina. Does Sword & Citadel explain anything or it will be going with things happening out of the blue and adding more confusion?

>> No.11430510

>>11426707
Not a spoiler, but please heed my words when I tell you that the sequels are much better translated with a much better protagonist, and I recommend you complete the trilogy.

>> No.11430540

>>11430510
>It gets good 5 books in

>> No.11430559

>>11420937
The first book of Virconium is worthwile
[a lotr type tale of warfare between post-apocalyptic barbarians with ancient airships versus a sword-poet with an AI mechanical warbird and a dwarf in a mechsuit]

The rest of the books are shit

>> No.11430561

>>11430510
Luo Ji is based
Post the fanart

>> No.11430581

>>11430226
Half and half. You'll get more information, but you'll get more questions as well. There is meant to be confusion; that's why people like it. Gives the illusion of depth

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Just finished reading The Philosopher's Stone by Colin Wilson from 1969.
I'm going to spoil it like a fat kid at a candy store.

It's a scifi-horrorish new-agey semi-lovecraftian novel about a British lad who grows up to be a dilletantish amateur scientist and a friend of a rich toff. He develops psychic and intellectual abilities like longevity (his original goal) and eventually being able to see the distant past and psychic blasting. He uncovers the true history of mankind as a creation of the Great Old Ones. They're sleeping but can still affect things. Be vewy vewy careful.
In any case, the book sure takes its time getting to the the lovecraftian part, though. It also throws in various things like the Voynich Manuscript (decipherable through heightened abilities) being a commentary on the Necronomicon. And Sir Francis Bacon being the real Shakespeare. It even dabbles in poltergeist busting - it was bad vibes all along.

The author must be an insufferable prick.

>> No.11430619

>>11430612
Oh, and it name drops various philosophers and musicians like it was going out of style.
I'm sure the author was very well read.

>> No.11430685

>>11430581
I don't mind questions, as long as they have an explanation. But the ending of both Shadow and Claw were so abrupt and unexpected/unexplained, that it is really annoying.

Will I ever know who is Dorcas, what was the flying burning city Severian saw with Dorcas, how Jonas reached earth, who is Dr. Talos, what are the golden man apes, wtf is going on with the civil war, who or what were the "witches" who resuscitated the city, how jonas ever escaped earth, what are those ciclopedyan monsters mentioned over and over, among other things? Or I will be wondering that my whole life?

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>>11430685
>Or I will be wondering that my whole life?
Whatever might be said about them, the BoTNS are not like Evangelion.

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>>11429025
>>11421739
>Elfmaid's Curse
>good

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Michael "make important characters in one book so I can kill them off a few books later" Sullivan

>> No.11430827

>>11430752
noice

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>>11430827
Here's another, just to derail the discussion about yet another phonebook sized fantasy novel.

>> No.11430863

>>11430807
>book three of
no thanks

why can't authors write one-offs anymore?

>> No.11430879

>>11430863
Because it's far more profitable (and predictable) to do the book 9 of hojillion.

>> No.11430887

>>11430879
>it's far more profitable
Is it?

>> No.11430898

>>11430860
Yikes, how old is that slag?
Must be pushing 30 at least.

>> No.11430916

>>11430863
>anymore
it's almost like the genre was virtually started by Tolkien writing long multi book series all set in the same world

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>>11430887
Yes. Think of it as a yet another profitable installment of a movie franchise. Solid, dependable, predictable.

>>11430898
I have no idea.

>> No.11430938

>>11430898
>Slag
If she is British, she's probably no more than 21.

>> No.11431071

>>11428928

Look up Access to Arasaka.

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>>11428627
>The Name of the Reddit
You got duped boyo.

>> No.11431109

>>11430916
The Trilogy meme was started by Tolkien. One-off fantasy books is pointless.

>> No.11431139
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is baru cormorant the best fantasy to come out in recent years? There are some very obvious lefty/anti imperialism vibes from it but it was honestly really good. Is this the future of fantasy, economics replacing magic?

Name ONE(1) fantasy book from the last few years that can compete

>> No.11431150

>>11431139
this book looked bad so I didn't read it.

>> No.11431163

>>11431139
I am currently slogging through and it's pretty meh.

>> No.11431168

>>11431150
it honestly sounds bad. Its about a women of color fighting against the evil white empire or whatever. I liked it alot though, it was much edgier than I expected. and thats a good thing

>> No.11431172

>>11431163
rec something better than, im reading the magicians and I can't take how low t and annoying the protag is, even the interesting magic system and world just cant make up for it.

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>>11431139
In the real world, twenty-one-year-old library sciences student Tina Anderson is invisible and under-appreciated, but in the VR-game Forever Fantasy Online she's Roxxy—the respected leader and main tank of a top-tier raiding guild. Her brother, James Anderson, is a college drop-out struggling under debt, but in FFO he's famous—an explorer known all over the world for doing every quest and collecting the rarest items.

Both Tina and James need the game more than they'd like to admit, but their favorite escape turns into a trap when FFO becomes real. Suddenly, wounds aren’t virtual, the stupid monsters have turned cunning, NPCs start acting like actual people, and death might be forever.

In the real world, everyone said being good at video games was a waste of time. Now, separated across a much larger and more deadly world, their skill at FFO is the only thing keeping them alive. It’s going to take every bit of their expertise (and hoarded loot) to find each other and get back home, but as the harshness of their new reality sets in, Tina and James soon realize that being the best in the game might no longer be good enough.

>> No.11431202

>>11427344
What’s wrong with the writing? Then if you would give an example of a fantasy author who has good writing in your opinion

>> No.11431210

>>11431195
wait shit lmao I just noticed this is by the same "author" as Nice Dragons Finish Last

>> No.11431211

>>11431195
>an isekai
These are almost always horrendously bad but if its written by someone with english as their first language at least the prose might be less bad. Ill probably pirate it. ty senpai

>> No.11431215

>>11431195
>Western Isekai
Please don't let this become the next big Hollywood thing.

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>>11431172
Uf, i haven't read any fantasy in years. I am not up to date to the newest and hottest writers.
How about the A Cavern of Black Ice by JV Jones?
I really enjoyed the book (and it's sequels), following the main protagonist being hammered (literally and figuratively) into a legend.

>> No.11431234

>>11431195
>WOW AND WHAT IF UHHHHH THIS CASUAL GRINDING MMO BECAME REAL XD
t. female author who has never actually played an mmo

>> No.11431239

>>11431195
>how to plagiarize RPO and manage to make it sound even worse

>> No.11431252
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>>11431211
If only we could get Goblin Slayer by a competent western author.

>> No.11431258

>>11431252
There's nothing really wrong with the english translation.
Unless you mean you want goblin slayer but without the harem elements, which might be nice I guess.

>> No.11431278
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11431278

Seriously, what was his fucking problem?

>> No.11431288

>>11431278
I don't think he liked black people.

>> No.11431299

>>11431278
he wasn't appreciated enough during his time

>> No.11431300

>>11430206
Under communism who gets the nice beach houses? Never had a Marxist who could answer that

>> No.11431313
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>>11431195
When Rin aced the Keju, the Empire-wide test to find the most talented youth to learn at the Academies, it was a shock to everyone: to the test officials, who couldn’t believe a war orphan from Rooster Province could pass without cheating; to Rin’s guardians, who believed they’d finally be able to marry her off and further their criminal enterprise; and to Rin herself, who realized she was finally free of the servitude and despair that had made up her daily existence. That she got into Sinegard, the most elite military school in Nikan, was even more surprising.

But surprises aren’t always good.

Because being a dark-skinned peasant girl from the south is not an easy thing at Sinegard. Targeted from the outset by rival classmates for her color, poverty, and gender, Rin discovers she possesses a lethal, unearthly power—an aptitude for the nearly-mythical art of shamanism. Exploring the depths of her gift with the help of a seemingly insane teacher and psychoactive substances, Rin learns that gods long thought dead are very much alive—and that mastering control over those powers could mean more than just surviving school.

For while the Nikara Empire is at peace, the Federation of Mugen still lurks across a narrow sea. The militarily advanced Federation occupied Nikan for decades after the First Poppy War, and only barely lost the continent in the Second. And while most of the people are complacent to go about their lives, a few are aware that a Third Poppy War is just a spark away . . .

Rin’s shamanic powers may be the only way to save her people. But as she finds out more about the god that has chosen her, the vengeful Phoenix, she fears that winning the war may cost her humanity . . . and that it may already be too late.

>> No.11431320

>>11430807
why did you read it? I gave book 1 a try because I loved ryiria. Book one was buggy, but I put that down to starting a new series.
Book two was shit in the highest degree. I don't care about sjw, but the author went full pandering mode. Everyone is represented. Even disabled-can-do's. Dropped the series at book 2 and you should have done the same.

I guess reading 800+ books makes one easily see bad books, or cliches.

>> No.11431321

>>11431278
Too redpilled.
But Trump will make it all right.

>> No.11431327

>>11431313
this sounds awful. does it at least succeed as a power fantasy?

>> No.11431341

>>11431327
>Chink shit
I doubt it.

>> No.11431347

>>11431327
According to one goodreads review:
I'm not going to lie, I struggled with this one. Right up to about 45% in I was wondering how the hell anyone was giving this 5 stars - not only was it not grimdark, it was borderline YA, and a rather blatant rip off of The Name of the Wind, including: super clever, good at EVERYTHING main character who gets a place at top university/college and proceeds to be trained/confused/challenged by quirky professor/lore master who is the only one who believes in/can do a specific type of magic etc etc. One of the first bits of magic he shows her is even how he can bend the air to his will. Hmmm. It's all school antics, with particular OTTness when one rude comment on the day of induction escalates a chance meeting into two characters becoming immediate mortal enemies. On top of that she nukes her womb because she has her first period- interesting choice for a female author perhaps, to make us useful only when we're neutered. I'm not entirely knocking this part of the book, it was the good bit.

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>>11431347
that settles that then

>> No.11431373

>>11431195
I already read one litrpg garbage and I won't waste my time with another.

>> No.11431388
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11431388

Has anyone read pic related?

>> No.11431429

>>11431320
mainly because I like seeing how the mythos in the Riyria books actually started

Also humans cunt punching a bunch of cunt elves will always be a guilty pleasure(and there's a LOT more of that in this book)

besides I've read enough fantasy including some of the absolute dregs of it to be able to get through it

>> No.11431548

>>11426625
I've heard that about Julian May and her Pliocene Exile Saga, Intervention, and the Galactic Milieu Trilogy, although I'm only 2 books into the first series.

>> No.11431637

I just finished reading "Foundation" and "Foundation and Empire" and it's honestly quite fascinating to see all this retro-futuristic idea of technology. It's kind of amusing how everything is "atomic", though.

>> No.11431675

All you Daniel Black fags.
https://williamscorner.blog/
Book for fall release is on track. So probably October release.
Wonders of wonders he is getting a professional proofreader. Why can't more amazon authors do this?

>> No.11431706

>>11431675
pretty much everyone has an editor and multiple proofreaders nowadays.
doesnt mean theyre any good :^)

>> No.11432059

"professional editor" = ur mother hahaha

>> No.11432081

>>11428928
Try sci-fi game soundtracks.
Endless Space/Legend soundtrack, Civilization Beyond Earth + Rising Tide expansion soundtrack, Offworld Trading Company, even Surviving Mars did interesting stuff with the soundtrack.
https://youtu.be/Prl6vr6SLZc?t=134

>>11431139
It was alright, I liked the world-building and the economy side, but the plot got a bit boring at times, the court intrigue and schemes were a bit bland for my tastes. But I'm looking forward to the sequel, the title seems interesting.
I think I enjoyed some other recent fantasy more. So subjectively I would say Senlin Ascends, or the Stormlight books.

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>>11431288
Lol he does certainly make them the butt in several of the short stories.

>> No.11432261

>>11426625
Everything by Gene Wolfe is so tight that it will make your head spin. There isn't a page wasted in any series he writes, and you won't even be able to tell until you finish.

>> No.11432280

>>11427226
I feel silly suggesting BotNS when it is shilled so much in this general, but it's literally exactly what you are asking for.

>> No.11432285

>>11432280
Don't feel silly, I still haven't read it but every post reminds to do it one day.

>> No.11432350
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11432350

>fantasy book
>there's no villain

Dropped.

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>>11430561
no

>> No.11432734

>>11432350
>Fantasy book
>promotes miscegenation
>explicit racial differences/conflict but still goes "don't be racist towards those orcs"

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>>11431347
>On top of that she nukes her womb because she has her first period

wut

>> No.11432748

>read blurb on fantasy book
>prophecy
>unpronounceable names that look like something that would appear on screen from a baby randomly smashing its face onto a keyboard
>only one man can save the entire universe from destruction

>> No.11432760

>>11432748
I'd love to see a Swordsmen of Varnis style send up of the ol' "I don't play by the rules" grimderp fantasy hero.

For anybody who hasn't read it, the classic:
http://fanac.org/fanzines/Slant/Slant3-05.html

>> No.11432778
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>>11420750
my all time fave.
here's the superior cover

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11432781

Gonna get some shit for this but what are some good fantasy books with female protagonists?

>> No.11432844

Just finished reading Frankenstein. I wasn't ready.
Next should I read Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, or Red Mars?

>> No.11432876

>>11432781
Deed of Paks, Feast of Souls, Kushiel's Dart and Merchant Princes


List starts with the most pure fantasy possible and moves away from that ending with a series that branches into a sort of scifi

I've aimed for largely single POV, however if you want multiple pov Jemisin's Broken Earth is very good

>> No.11432880

>>11432781
ASOIAF count?

>> No.11432886
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>>11432781
Black magician series
I can't remember which I have read and which I haven't but all in all I enjoyed them at the time I read them.

>> No.11432899

>>11432886
Black Magician was so much fun when I read it, the sequel trilogy is good too but there are more male povs.
Age of Five is pretty fun as well and the mc is also female there.

It's just a shame that I didn't like Thief's Magic at all

>> No.11432909

>>11432781
baru cormorant, the mistress of empire series, worm if youre into capeshit

>> No.11432912

>>11432876
>Kushiel's Dart
>tfw randomly picked the imriel books up while on holiday and enjoyed them but didn't realise it was actually a sequel trilogy until after and now can't be bothered to go read the first books since I already know what happens

>> No.11432913

>>11432899
I think I have read the 7 on the left and enjoyed them. I seem to remember theifs magic but I'm not sure I read it. The top right 3 don't seem familiar at all to me.

>> No.11432919

>>11432886
>>11432876
Thanks a lot! Already started checking them out

>>11432880
Read it but thanks still

>> No.11432920

>>11432886
>>11432899
I remember hating the ending to the first trilogy, but I can't remember why.

>> No.11432922

>>11432886
>Black magician series
i remember liking these when i was younger, I wonder if they hold up. tfw akarin will never fuck your bucci

>> No.11432929

>>11432922
>akarin
Who?

>> No.11432932

>>11432913
Yeah that's a different series, it starts with the protag becoming a sort of magic pope in a world where their gods deffo exist and then spirals from there

>> No.11432934

>>11432929
wasnt that the head magician dudes name? Im sure im spelling it wrong

>> No.11432935

>>11432909
Looks interesting too, thanks!

>> No.11432937

>>11432934
Sorry, it was an /a/ joke.

>> No.11432942

>>11432748
I refuse to read any fantasy book when the names all look like Mister Mxyzptlk....and that one I can pronounce

>> No.11432947

LET ME FUCKING POST CAPTCHA

>> No.11432959
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11432959

I remember this being shilled here a lot a year or so ago. Is it any good or is it typical female author type shit?

>> No.11432997

>>11428186
The Way of Choices

>> No.11433010

>>11432876
Can second the Deed of Paksenarrion. Good series about a woman becoming a mercenary and then becoming a paladin.

>>11432959
The first one is solid space opera stuff. The sequels, less so. The second is a Jane Austin style story about the zombie supersoldier protagonist drinking tea and then ruining a teenager's life, the second delivers more entertaining stuff but isn't as good as the first.

It's only "controversial" because the singular gender the author used was "she" and that made the weenies get mad.

>> No.11433020

Shats and shardplate.

>> No.11433026
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How do you guys feel about the rest of /lit/ absolutely loathing you?

>> No.11433051
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>>11433026
I cry myself to sleep over it every night.

>> No.11433082

I hate you captcha

>> No.11433092

>>11433026
>caring what outer/lit/ thinks

>> No.11433097

>>11433026
The same as the rest of /lit feels when they see their reflection in a window.

>> No.11433108

Any suggestions for books where a central theme is that living in the book's world is miserable and horrifying, and that the characters have no choice but to deal with it as best they can? Along the lines of The Night Land and The Road, I guess.

>> No.11433169

>>11433026
I care not for the opinions of men that see Hegel as anything other than a charlatan.

>> No.11433179

>>11432947
I've been having the same problem

>> No.11433181

Why would I care what a bunch of fags who pretend to like books to appear smart on an imageboard think?

>> No.11433192

>>11422533
Gotrek and Felix, but mostly the stuff written by King.

>> No.11433201

>>11429139
That book sucked, desu.

>> No.11433211

/sffg/, does this sound like it would be too cluttered?

>No Country For Old Men + Dune + FMA
>instead of stolen money it's stolen alien drugs
>the drug is an ancient grey goo that construct drugs inside the user's body
>the character who stole it is a mad scientist who thinks its a philosopher's stone that could be used to transmute biomass into petroleum

>> No.11433239

>>11433026
I care not. i read what i want and enjoy it.

>> No.11433262

>>11433026
Post in /lit/ about Shakespeare and you’ll get replies calling him a fraud and a hack. The entirety of 4chan is mad about everything. If you’d been more perceptive, you’d have seen the pattern already.

>> No.11433277

>>11433026
Couldn't give a fuck considering I don't come here for anything else
/lit/ can fuck off with their pretention, I'm here to talk about sci-fi

>> No.11433306

>>11433026
I don't really care what redditors think of me.

>> No.11433313

>>11432886
I really enjoyed the original Black Magician trilogy, but not enjoying the sequel trilogy. I also couldn't get into the prequels.

>> No.11433347

>>11433026
/sffg/ is full of wonderful people and im glad i get to spend time with them. yes even the litrpg fags. atleast they dont pretend to be better than anyone else.

>> No.11433353

I think that duck has had plenty of attention at this point, lads

>> No.11433405

>>11433353
The thing is we all want to share why we like it here. Each of us has our reasons

>> No.11433438

>>11433026
just looked at lit's main page and it was entirely recommendation and college threads lol
didn't even have people fighting over books they haven't read like usual

There's zero reason to discuss literature here given the tiny readership of each book but lit works well for sff because there's comparatively lots of readers who have each read comparatively quite a lot

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what's the #1 fantasy book/series you've read that completely sucked you in and made you forget about real life?

>> No.11433445

>>11433442
honestly harry potter and lord of the rings when i was a kid.
nowadays nothing really captures the same feeling. i might be too old for childlike wonder.

>> No.11433451

>>11433442
Exile and Nomad really drew me in. I guess I really felt like reading a spy book though.

>> No.11433524

>>11433442
Amber series 1 by Roger Zelazny

>> No.11433556

>>11433442
worm

>> No.11433568

>>11432909
Sequel to Worm has a female protag as well.

>> No.11433588

>>11433568
shes beta though. Not even close to Taylor levels of based.

>> No.11433609

>>11433588
but she collapsed a man's jaw

>> No.11433619

Maybe she'll transform into chad, we have to wait and see. probably not

>> No.11433627

any recs for books where the MC is an officer on a spaceship (or a captain)
no weber, please
I know it's simpleminded but that's what I'm looking for right now

>> No.11433693

>>11433627
Admiral by Sean Danker

>> No.11433744

>>11433627
David Drake's RCN series is probably the best Age of Sail in Space one out there. It's shamelessly inspired by the Aubrey-Maturin series, and is about a brash young captain and his librarian/spy friend going on various wartime and peacetime adventures.

Vatta's War by Elizabeth Moon is good. Junior officer from a wealthy family gets drummed out of the service for causing a scandal, so her family gives her a old trading ship destined for the scrapyards to get her out of the spotlight, naturally she goes off on a side jaunt to make some extra money and things snowball.

Spiral Wars by Joel Shepherd is about the crew of a space battleship that mutinies after their captain is murdered by a conspiracy, they eventually get dragged into a even bigger conspiracy about berserker AIs that everybody thought were dead.

Angel in the Whirlwind by Christopher G. Nuttall was entertaining, though a bit formulaic. I disliked how the bad guys started off as religious fanatics but got downgraded into just being turbo-wahabbists in space.

The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell has good ship battles but everything else about the writing is pulp tier.

>>11433693
I just finished this one and I really enjoyed it, though it's more a mystery/space horror story than space captain stuff. Haven't read the sequels yet.

>> No.11433967

>>11432778
That's actually a really nice cover. The title is beautiful.

>> No.11433977

>>11433026
I'm as much a part of outer/lit/ as of /sffg/ and I find it absolutely hilarious.

>> No.11433980

>>11433108
I Have No Mouth is an extreme case of this.

>> No.11433982

>>11429139
>reading the sequels
You're doing it wrong.

>> No.11433994

>>11433967
chaykin used to be great

>> No.11434060
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11434060

>tfw you will never be 6 million years old flying around the galaxy in a ship with god like technologies while banging your clone sister, cucking low tech civs and getting together every 200k years to shoot shit with your other clones about all the crazy shit you've seen

Damn this was fucking great, is there anything similar in scope to this?

>> No.11434068

>>11434060
>hurr if you fly at 99% of lightspeed you can live forever !

stupid

also
>whoops we wiped out trillions of AI's
>luckily they are so logical that they won't seek revenge

>> No.11434075

>>11434068
It's flat out stated they have biological immortality, stay mad robonigger, I hope the house of moths launches a sun straight into your shitty "civilization"

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11434081

>>11432781
Monstrous Regiment
>>11433442
Pic related I guess. Or the Cosmere books for some slightly more exotic world building.

>> No.11434083

>>11434075
no they don't
Which is why they spend most of their time at light speed

>> No.11434099

>>11434083
They spend most of their time at light speed because they are constantly circumnavigating the galaxy and that is the speed limit.

>> No.11434105

>>11434099
and because if they decided to spend the years the old fashioned way, they would all be dead of old age or insane

>> No.11434118

>>11434105
The main character flat out says he has experienced tens of thousands of years of subjective time.

>> No.11434124

>>11434118
vs a 200,000 year round trip around the galaxy
Which they have done many times

>> No.11434141

>>11434124
Yes, because they spend most of it in stasis/frozen at relativistic speeds. If they experienced tens of thousands of subjective years of time over 6 million years that means they are biologically immortal.

>> No.11434157

>>11434141
immortality means forever
not
a couple thousand years + mechanical enhancements

>> No.11434205

>>11434060
>tfw cant find the epub anywhere
im too lazy to try irc
can someone upload it

>> No.11434214

>>11434205
Audiobook is on pirate bay, read by John Lee too, who is fucking god tier.

Reading is for fags anyway.

>> No.11434234

>>11434205
>>11434214
found it, nvm

>> No.11434262

>>11431195
I read a novel like this except it was a genderbender story with the main character getting turned into an elf slut who likes double lizard dick and fucking everything that breathes

>> No.11434278

>>11434262
that's a doujin, not a "novel"

>> No.11434281

>>11433010
stormweenie here nobody actually cared

>> No.11434285

>>11433442
dune

>> No.11434286

>>11434285
Yeah Dune is dank as fuck.

>> No.11434297

What's that LN book that was talked about here months and months ago? One that some people here actually found good

>> No.11434301

>>11434278
what's a doujin

>> No.11434326

>>11433442
Honestly? ASOIAF. I was 16 though.

>> No.11434665

>>11434297
goblin slayer

>> No.11434699

>>11432886
Only read the black magician trilogy and age of 5 trilogy. All the other books are shit.
t. Canavan shill who pushed her books in outer lit for years

>> No.11434721

>>11434665
That wasn't it sadly, it had something to do with "magus"

>> No.11434800

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