/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11420230]

Do Australians read?

[Anonymous No.11420240]

>>11420230
Yeah....

[Anonymous No.11420291]

>>11420240
lol my mum buys that peanut butter, shits actually good

[Anonymous No.11420310]

Reading is for poofters and soft cunts

[Anonymous No.11420323]

>>11420230
I am Australian and I read. So yes. I can't speak for my fellow-men though.

[Anonymous No.11420326]

I read The Australian.

[Anonymous No.11420331]

Sam Harris apparently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHZc40uQuHo

[Anonymous No.11420381]

>>11420230
I'm reading pic related at the moment and it's very good.

[Anonymous No.11420417]

>>11420291
yeah I like it

[Anonymous No.11421673]

Nah just go wrastle varmints all day mate!

[Anonymous No.11422108]

>>11420240
>>11420291

the one decent thing in that pic you couldn't even make yourself. it's from NZ

when will you kangaroos stop stealing our shit.
tasman war now

[Anonymous No.11422210]

>tfw I studied abroad in Australia last semester and took Australian literature 101

they don't call it the country of cultural cringe for nothing

[Anonymous No.11423940]

>>11420230
aussies seem to have a particularly annoying culture, where the smarter part of the population are twinkish and ultraliberal in reaction to their stereotypically macho and unrefined underclass. It's not at all like Eastern Europe or even America where you get intellectuals who attempt to also be masculine. That seems very rare down under at least ime, and even more so in New Zealand. Basically if someone from australia says they read I assume they're a faggot now.

[Anonymous No.11423962]

>>11422210
Pretty much. I don’t think the average person has a more comfortable life anywhere in the world, but it comes at the cost of a lot of stifled aspirations.

[Anonymous No.11423980]

>>11420326
You're what's fucking wrong with the country then m8.

[Anonymous No.11423988]

>>11420323
same

[Anonymous No.11424022]

>>11422210
Interestingly though, some of the best Australian art is about this country's cultural void

[Anonymous No.11424030]

>>11423940
I read. I'm also a bullcatcher. A fairly masculine job that one.

[Anonymous No.11424033]

>>11422210
>they don't call it the country of cultural cringe for nothing

>The Cringe mainly appears in a tendency to make needless comparisons. The Australian reader, more or less consciously, hedges and hesitates, asking himself, “Yes, but what would a cultivated Englishman think of this?” No writer can communicate confidently to a reader with the “Yes, but” habit; and this particular demand is curiously crippling to critical judgement.
>There is a certain type of Australian intellectual who is forever sidling up to the cultivated Englishman, insinuating “I, of course, am not like these other crude Australians. I understand how you must feel about them; I should be more at home in Oxford or Bloomsbury” (the use of Bloomsbury as a symbol of intellectuality is badly out of date; but, then, so as a rule is the Australian Cringer).
>“... in the back of the Australian mind, there sits a minatory Englishman. He is not even the most suitable type of Englishman—not the rare pukka sahib with his deep still pool of imaginativeness, and his fine urbanity; not the common man with his blending of solidity and tenderness: but that Public School Englishman with his detection of a bad smell permanently engraved on his features, who has left a trail of exasperation through Europe and of smouldering hatred through the east, and whose indifference to the Commonwealth is not even studied.
>“Subconsciously the educated man feels a guilty need to placate this shadowy figure (Freud has a name for it). His ghost sits in on the tete-a-tete between Australian reader and writer, interrupting in the wrong accent.

[Anonymous No.11424064]

>>11424033
yep, this one's going in my cringe compilation

[Anonymous No.11424092]

Who's worse, those who "REJECT" their Australianness, or those who "EMBRACE" it. Only freaks feel the need to do this. Nonentities. All Australian nationalists and all Australian cringeists are EQUALLY DECADENT and BANAL.

[Anonymous No.11424148]

I'm sure that there's more to Australian literature than the infographic in the wiki. Problem is that Chinese nationalists keep depending examples when I argue they should leave.

[Anonymous No.11424160]

>>11424092
True Australians work for the Catholic underground

[Anonymous No.11424322]

>>11424160
The fire rises...

[Anonymous No.11424384]

>>11424322
triggering snowflakes before it was cool

[Anonymous No.11424411]

>>11424022
Examples? Genuinely interested.

[Anonymous No.11424465]

>>11423940
It's more that you can be "aussie" and an intellectual but socially have to perform as an "aussie" there are plenty of intelligent trades people with varying tastes it just has to be second to their masculinity as performed as being "aussie". To put it easier you can be a "smart cunt" but if you can't make fun of yourself or think you are automatically better than others because you're smart, you will be outside masculine Australian-ness.

[Anonymous No.11424501]

>>11424465
Yeah it's Tall Poppy syndrome. If you're perceived as aspiring to something beyond traditional Aussie masculinity, then you're punished for it. Can't really speak for women, or how they experience things, but for men that's more or less what it's like.

[Anonymous No.11424527]

>>11424501
>>11424465
Australia being kind of culturally empty means being Australian is more of an attitude. People can be or believe anything plus have an Australian attitude and it kinda works out. I've met immigrants who were more "Australian" than some natives but that's not often.

[Anonymous No.11424588]

>>11420230
Melbourne-types generally do. I'm not sure if they have books in Queensland yet, though.

[Anonymous No.11424612]

>>11424527
>>11424501
+

Australian culture came about in the modern era, and before it could get on its feet, globalisation hits.

Do Australians read? Ofcourse, they do everything and anything, they are like children though, easily convinced.

As for the Australian male. Its pretty cringe worthy how hard a young man will try. Shows, how insecure identity is in Aus.

[Anonymous No.11424633]

>>11420240
The project makes me want to put a gun to my fucking head.

[Anonymous No.11424639]

>>11424092
Australia is nothing but a tract of land, a set of laws and unending apathy.
As much as i want to be patriotic i just can't.

[Anonymous No.11424647]

>>11424612
Yeha it's pretty bad but it's just the same elsewhere however its expressed differently just because being Australian can be more easily separate from other social signifies like class, race, gender etc. Everyone can get along but they have a smaller sense of individuality

[Anonymous No.11425048]

SO MANY FUCKING DIVERSE UNPATRIOTIC POOFTAS
IF YOU CANT RECITE YOUR BUSH POETRY YOU SHOULD FUKKEN LEAVE YA GAY CUNTS

[Anonymous No.11425053]

>>11424501
Only gay cunts feel threatened by being called a wanker for reading big books. Are you a gay cunt, anon?

[Anonymous No.11425133]

>>11425053
this.

[Anonymous No.11425150]

Yes, I do
However Bob Carr is an idiot, watch that documentary he made years ago about Gore Vidal. It was all about Bob Carr meeting Gore Vidal, how great it was that Bob Car met Gore Vidal, it was all about HIM.

[Anonymous No.11425174]

This was pretty good
But he should have addressed the long standing rumour that Kelly was trying to raise an army

[Anonymous No.11425195]

>>11425048
>votes Australia First
Jesus how old is this meme that referencing that party was a timely and relevant thing to do?

[Anonymous No.11425199]

>>11422108
>war with NZ
We'd have to deport four million of you fuckers first and that's just too much of a hassle.

[Anonymous No.11425316]

>>11425195
She’s still in parliament you fucking queer cunt.

[Anonymous No.11425322]

>>11420240
Yikes

[Anonymous No.11425324]

>>11422210
t-the plains is good

[Anonymous No.11425327]

>>11424322
Based

[Anonymous No.11425329]

>>11420326
based
>>11423980
cringe

[Anonymous No.11425330]

>>11425174
He's just a weird homo with a mail order beard

[Anonymous No.11425334]

>>11425329
Fucking big business libqueers fuck off

[Anonymous No.11425456]

>>11425316
I think you're getting a bit confused there friend

[Anonymous No.11425471]

>>11425048
>>11425316

[Anonymous No.11425573]

Honestly, I feel like lots of the cultural and identity issues facing Australia are extremely similar to Canada's. Except the main difference is that Canadians are able to relate and compare; we are Canadians because we are not Americans I've once heard.

That is in all intensive purposes the foundation of a Canadian identity.

[Anonymous No.11425717]

>>11425573
>we are Canadians because we are not Americans I've once heard.
What a pathetic national identity.

[Anonymous No.11425982]

>>11420240
Margaret and David were the best :^(

[Anonymous No.11426103]

>>11425982
i like them
i shoul remove form imagge

[Anonymous No.11426282]

>>11425048
>Australia First
Leb nationalism. Jims a leb mate

[Anonymous No.11426346]

>>11424465
Nothing wrong with being a tall poppy (clive) you just can't be a wanker

[Anonymous No.11427185]

>>11426282
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiI12gY_Imc

[Anonymous No.11427230]

>>11420310
not reading is for the dickhead tradie who manages to plug his phone recharger into the three-phase socket and blows it up as well as blowing his hand off at the wrist.

[Anonymous No.11427238]

>>11420326
that doesn't take as long as it used to. newspapers are shrinking at an alarming rate.

the Age is now the same size as the Sun used to be, before it merged with the Herald to become .. derp.. the Herald-Sun.

[Anonymous No.11427241]

>>11422108
>when will you kangaroos stop stealing our shit.

about the same time you stop sending your Maori sociopaths here to the mainland so they can apply for the fuckin' dole. once were warriors, still are dickheads.

[Anonymous No.11427246]

>>11426282
>jim saleam is a leb

[Anonymous No.11427247]

>>11425048

Twas Mulga Bill, from Eaglehawk, that caught the cycling craze;
He turned away the good old horse that served him many days;
He dressed himself in cycling clothes, resplendent to be seen;
He hurried off to town and bought a shining new machine;
And as he wheeled it through the door, with air of lordly pride,
The grinning shop assistant said, "Excuse me, can you ride?"

[Anonymous No.11427253]

>>11426282
if they're Leb nationalists, wouldn't their party be called Lebanon First?

/thread

[Anonymous No.11427263]

>>11426282
ALL RISE FOR THE AUSTRALIAN NATIONAL ANTHEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDgaBEoyWv8

[Anonymous No.11427274]

>>11427263

aw yee mayte fuckin' bonzer mayyyyyyyte

it's kind of weird seeing displaced arab teenagers doing american negro gang hand-signs, as if the ghetto coolness might rub off on them. where's your camel and your koran, Habib?

[Anonymous No.11428007]

>>11427238
Granddad what are you doing on a burmese snake charming website?

[Anonymous No.11428017]

>>11427274
>it's kind of weird seeing displaced arab teenagers doing american negro gang hand-signs, as if the ghetto coolness might rub off on them
A lot of my Indian friends do the same thing. It's like every non-white ethnicity just desperately wants to be African American

[Anonymous No.11428024]

>>11428017
>It's like every non-white ethnicity just desperately wants to be shot by an American cop for walking down the street

[Anonymous No.11428032]

>>11428007
in its day, the Sun was based. it wasn't as low-rent as the Sunday Observer, which was the Australian "Weekly World News", but the Sun would report the most horrific crimes in amazing detail. it was the newspaper for the blue collar hard-ass.

[Anonymous No.11428063]

>>11420240
No Barefoot Investor?

[Anonymous No.11428093]

>>11428024
yes

[Anonymous No.11428094]

>>11424465
I'm "gifted" and both my primary and high schools had to keep going out of their way to try to keep me engaged. Plenty of children my age would try to start shit over it.
Now i do ag science fieldwork and listen to epic poetry while i'm harvesting and put classic fm on the workshop radio when i'm the only one in there all day and while no one i work with shares my tastes people don't go out of their way to mock me. Some are even interested, which surprised me at first.
In my experience anti-intellectualism is far more pronounced in teens than in adults. Australian adults hate anything they see as pretentious, but don't dislike literature or othet perceived wanky persuits like theatre, just the kind of person they stereoypically associate with the arts, my home town is wheat and canola central and you'll get called a fag as a kid for liking art or reading anything for pleasure, but the local arts council is always putting on musical theatre productions and the blokiest footballers i know will sing and dance on stage in them. High school is boring for anyone though, gotta have a go at someone over something.

[Anonymous No.11428114]

>>11428063

[Anonymous No.11428152]

>>11426282
So is Bob Qatar

[Anonymous No.11428165]

>>11420240
I miss Margaret & David so fucking much

[Anonymous No.11428169]

>>11420240
Tim Winton should be on there

[Anonymous No.11428194]

[Anonymous No.11428200]

>>11428169
he is, his name just isnt visible.

[Anonymous No.11428753]

>>11428114
>the project
why did channel 10 go out of its way to cast people with the most punchable faces they could find?

[Anonymous No.11430064]

>>11420240
Nothing wrong with Micallef, mate.

[Anonymous No.11430123]

>>11425982
>>11428165
It was comfy to watch them talk about films, but as actual critics they were kinda half-baked IMO

[Anonymous No.11430135]

>>11424160
Would that be your child prostitution ring then, Father?

[Anonymous No.11430164]

>>11425717
It's the same thing with aussies m8, we just have to include "or Brits" in that phrase

[Anonymous No.11430223]

Do Australians exist?

[Anonymous No.11430415]

>>11420240
>Thermomix

Lmao, this is too accurate.

[Anonymous No.11431301]

>>11428753
it's called "irritainment"

[Anonymous No.11432133]

>>11430064
its just DUDE DRUMPF LMAO for an Australian audience. American late night show knockoff #498

[Anonymous No.11432142]

>>11430135
no that would be the british royal family

[Anonymous No.11432215]

>>11432142
lmao I've never understood this. Just by being a 4th cousin of the Queen you get access to world class pussy why the fuck would you risk it all to diddle some bug eyed, recessive chinned cockney kid? Stop reading LaRouche. The royals are often the centre of vintage conspiracy theories because they were the most visible elites for a long time. Before the internet how the fuck would you find out who Soros was or Podesta etc?

[Anonymous No.11432691]

I read The Age/ABC.

Am I cancer?

[Anonymous No.11433542]

Who dosent love a good read about Carl Williams

[Anonymous No.11433552]

>>11420230
They got that one humor book about picnic on hanging rock.

[Anonymous No.11433695]

>>11420230
Australia has an active but small literary scene.

[Anonymous No.11433723]

>>11432133
He's done better stuff than Mad as Hell, I'll admit that, but it's still decent and probably the best original program on TV. Micallef is a great comedian.
What you described it as doesn't really ring true at all though and now I hesitate to believe you've seen it.

[Anonymous No.11434365]

For sure. We're just not Ameri-loud about it.

[Anonymous No.11434377]

>>11428152
had a good giggle at that , cheers matey

[Anonymous No.11434542]

>>11433695
last time i went to the Writer's Festival in Melbourne, Assange was there. turned 180 degrees and left.

[Anonymous No.11434584]

>>11434542
problem?

[Anonymous No.11434891]

>>11424612
Read Foundations of Culture in Australia by P.R. Stephensen.

[Anonymous No.11435407]

This nation is deeply sick, spiritually. The dying generations are the only ones to catch a wind of it anymore and they are too inept and foolish to fully grasp and express it. Whatever happened to the cavalier digger and the coltish shearers and drover? There's no great art produced of us anymore because of this illness we've been struck with. I don't believe we can recover our frontier spirit without some great cataclysm. It's a rotten, decaying death we're in for, and in our place there'll be a swarming race of mongrel blowflies digging in the detritus.

[Anonymous No.11435463]

no. we dream.

[Anonymous No.11435467]

>>11435407
there can be no frontier spirit without a frontier

[Anonymous No.11435695]

>>11435407
So the thing for you to do would be to go and change that. Get to work.

[Anonymous No.11436146]

>>11435695
He is. One post at a time

[Anonymous No.11437460]

>>11434584
have you ever smelled him?

[Anonymous No.11437468]

Nobody mentions Patrick White? Christina Stead? I'm not even Australian and I know this. Come on lads

[Anonymous No.11437657]

>>11434891
>unironically reading Inky Stephenson

[Anonymous No.11437878]

>>11435407
>>11435463
Look into the work of Grey Owl aka Archie Belaney
Canadian but covers this feel in Men of the Last Frontier.
>allowing where you were born to define you
>not having a solid knowledge of world cultures & histories
>not being self-aware enough to transcend whatever socialization you grew up with
Plebitty.

[Anonymous No.11438373]

>>11437468
Patrick White is an intelligent, soulful writer, but I find his style mind-wanderingly boring. It's unfortunate. The content of his ideas is rich, and present, but his prose seems to drag its content out through the cautiously-ajar opening of his mind portal one hair at a time, so that they emerge exhausted and somewhat beaten. You get the feeling he was capable of much more.

Haven't read Christina Stead yet. Anyone care to comment on her work?

[Anonymous No.11438439]

>>11438373
her name's Christina, don't bother

[Anonymous No.11438482]

>>11438439
Usually I would read your post, but your number's >>11438439, so I won't bother.

[Anonymous No.11438520]

>>11437657
Inky is lit m8.

[Anonymous No.11438622]

>>11438482
at least I'm not a woman

[Anonymous No.11438633]

>>11423940
I read, am Australian, and am not an homosexual.
Also, keep your personal sexual fetishes to yourself you weirdo

[Anonymous No.11438663]

>>11420240
Kek. That’s my mum.

[Anonymous No.11438671]

>>11420326
Based.

[Anonymous No.11438713]

>>11420240
What about Millionaire Hotseat?

[Anonymous No.11438727]

Ask an aussie what it means to be australian. They confidently open their mouth to answer, look confused and give you a generic 'its footy, standing by your mates and being australian.' But you can see them rejecting their own answers as they give them. We don't even know what we are, we don't know our own identity. Its why aussies are such got shitposters, our literary contribution to the world nothing more than insults. Gotta be an empty shell to shitpost where it hurts.
Being australian is knowing you are nothing knowing that you are a spark within flesh and that all comes to an end, but laughing at it all until the tears wash away ghe world

[Anonymous No.11438753]

>>11438727
sum projection you got there

[Anonymous No.11438763]

>>11438727
The only feasible identity an Australian can have is a "Briton under the Southern Cross." That was what carried us through the first 150 years. Wasn't until the country got terminal AIDs in the late 60s that we triumphantly destroyed our heritage, the only thing we had to inherit and have spent ever since muddling through without it. We've basically given up now and are ready to surrender to Asia. The political and social elite have already capitulated. They think they're going to retain their status but they'll have another thing coming in a generation or so. The only thing this place has going for it is it is big enough you don't have to be in proximity to the worst of it. My ancestors were on the first fleet, settlers of South Australia, Queensland and New South Wales, on the first boat ashore at Gallipoli, fought at Pozieres, Hamel and the Hindenburg Line. They were at Darwin, the fall of Singapore and Kokoda. But it literally means nothing now and so next year when I go overseas for work I can't really find a reason to go back. Let the chinks have it and all the bourgeois faggots stew in it too.

[Anonymous No.11438766]

>>11438727
>being Australian is about mateship and a fair go
If I hear this one more time I will kill again

[Anonymous No.11438769]

>>11438753
I can only experience the world as myself anon, of course its projection. But I've asked many people this question and 3 out 5 people have given me the generic response.

[Anonymous No.11438784]

>>11438766
Mate, thats not giving those people a fair go. We're all about fair goes, unless your smart, good looking, an abo or anyone who has aspirations. But mate, mate listen, let those people have their fair share of opinions. Its only fair, and australia's fair mate its in the anthem

[Anonymous No.11438788]

>>11438784
>and australia's fair mate its in the anthem
don't forget we have boundless plains to share :^')

[Anonymous No.11438800]

In a better world John Curtin could have been dictator for life

[Anonymous No.11438845]

>>11438763
This, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.11438850]

>>11438800
This a million times.

[Anonymous No.11438856]

>>11424022
source on this painting? reverse image search produce nada

[Anonymous No.11438869]

>>11438788
I fucking hate the anthem. Its literally just "we're a bunch of fags who live on this huge, empty tract of land"
Waltzing matilda would be even worse, a homeless guy stealinga a sheep, running from the police and then killing himself. Real inspiring.

[Anonymous No.11438885]

>>11438869
Waltzing Matilda with different lyrics maybe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb67Y638rHI

[Anonymous No.11438895]

>>11438869
I Am Australian is unironically the best song for anthem

[Anonymous No.11438899]

>>11438869
Yep and people at best mumble it. Truly a miserable fucking slog through that shitty song

>>11438885
You gotta post the superior version with comfy vintage footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htLn41erNSg

[Anonymous No.11438901]

>>11438895
No it's not. It's even more cucked than advance Australia fair.

[Anonymous No.11438905]

>>11438895
literally an airline theme song lmao

[Anonymous No.11438908]

>>11438901
What to you is an anthem? A war song?

[Anonymous No.11438910]

no but they have ascended needing to read

[Anonymous No.11438920]

Depends where you look. If you go inland at all you'll be hard pressed to find any real litfags, but if you stay on the coast you'll probably get some. as well as a bunch of trannies and trapsfuck you melbourne

[Anonymous No.11438925]

>>11438908
try this>>11438899
all these anglo countries have anthems about how they're free real estate. A war song would be a welcome change or at least a tune that didn't sound like a school band is playing it no matter what

[Anonymous No.11438926]

>>11438908
Better a war song than a fuck me in the ass song.

[Anonymous No.11438937]

>>11438925
American anthem is awesome. Patriotic as fuck.

British Anthem is monarchist claptrap, but still better than ours.

[Anonymous No.11438943]

>>11438926
War songs suggest that war is one of our fundamental values. Perhaps it is, but I think that's kind of retarded. Literally only one war that we've fought has been in our own self-interest. Everything else has been to appease the Brits and Yanks.

[Anonymous No.11438951]

>>11438856
just kidding, it's Arthur Boyd if anyone else is interested

[Anonymous No.11438953]

>>11438943
We've turned into a race of faggots but it wasn't always this way. There was still something in fighting for Britain, now we've got nothing.

[Anonymous No.11438981]

>>11438622
So you cast the bait, right? Reel goes whizz. Then, as it dies away all too soon, a pain comes shooting up your ass. You look around and realise you've hooked bait into your own anus. Why do you keep doing this?

[Anonymous No.11438983]

>>11438953
We've turned into a race of faggots because it's economically profitable to do so. If we want to return to classical Australian civilisation, we need to get rid of our addiction to money and "big business."

[Anonymous No.11438998]

[Anonymous No.11439001]

>>11438908
American anthem

[Anonymous No.11439031]

>>11420230
Australian here.
Growing up, I always felt superior because, though many parents struggled to get their children to read, my own struggled to make me stop.
I didn't just read shitty kids books all the time either.
I loved to read, and I still do thankfully.
Anyway, the rest of Australia probably read fuck-all from what I know, especially the younger ones.

[Anonymous No.11439041]

>>11439031
Don't forget other factors: class and area and school, and all that shit.

An anecdotal example... My half sister grew up in a semi-rural town whose school environment ended up discouraging her from reading just about anything other than snaps and instagram comment threads. She then moved to a high school in the upper class area of the city. Apparently everyone there reads shit like Austen and Herodotus. Say what you want about the quality of that range, but you have to admit the contingencies throw their weight around here.

[Anonymous No.11439042]

>>11420240
Fuqq that pic is 95% of Australian mums

[Anonymous No.11439054]

>>11439041
I guess that is a good point.
Most of my early childhood was spent overseas, away from Australia.
Though my primary school really was not full of bright kids. I remember there were a fair few Samoan kids, and I faintly remember having an autistic friend.

[Anonymous No.11439065]

>>11439054
Ok, so you'd have some sort of idea what Australia looks like from the outside. I have no idea. I've lived here all my life, and can't tell intentions from external behaviours, in some sort of metaphorical sense. I know what the Australian nation, at each of its different levels, wants and doesn't want to be, but have no idea what it reeks of from across the water in the same way I can see the behaviour of the US but not really know its day-to-day functioning of individual intentions, hopes, dreams and nightmares.

[Anonymous No.11439076]

>>11439065
Well, the countries I was in were the likes of Jakarta and the Middle East, and I was fairly yong still.

[Anonymous No.11439366]

>>11438520
He advocated Boston Tea Party levels of cultural appropriation

[Anonymous No.11439900]

>>11439366
Yeah but he recognised Australia's cultural dilemma long before anyone else did.

[Anonymous No.11440338]

>>11439366
>cultural appropriation
who cares, should be flattered.