/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11411720]

I want to get my hands on nationalist literature.
Sound arguments for promotion of one's race, the importance of tradition, against race mixing,etc.
Besides Mein Kampf, I know there were a bunch of 19th century authors who were into that.
thank you

[Anonymous No.11411723]

>>11411720
Unironically >>>/pol/ would probably be more helpful. But if you insist on getting our recommendations I'd start with my diary desu

[Anonymous No.11411735]

>I'm here from /pol/. Tell me about Evola fellow white people

[Anonymous No.11411740]

Look into the Conservative Revolutionary movement and the arguments of theorists like Heidegger and Schmitt that a state must be rooted in some kind of tradition (national, geographical, historical, etc.) that precedes nonsense like "rational self-interest" or economistic scientism in order for them to have a meaningful life

[Anonymous No.11411756]

>>11411720
muh racial purity

[Anonymous No.11411759]

>>11411735
There is literally no argument for promoting mass immigration and race-mixing
I truly believe that the situation we see now will be the end of Western culture, you need only to look at Sweden or the United-Kingdom to see where uncontrolled immigration from 3rd world countries leads us
If people were educated to be proud of their history and of themselves, they wouldn't generate into wasteful and pointless consumerism.

[Anonymous No.11411790]

>>11411759
It would be great for the world if western culture ended

[Anonymous No.11411799]

That quote from Hoppe is peak brainletism and goes to show most libertarians are babies who will rally behind the gubmint when their conservative positions are threatened. Pathetic.

[Anonymous No.11411821]

>That 30 year old boomer who is scared of nationalism
/lit/ used to be better
Just read Mussolini, evola , etc
Get one of those meme charts on /pol/

[Anonymous No.11411824]

It would be great if you presented arguments, despite the fact that I asked for literature recommendations

[Anonymous No.11411896]

What your talking about is white nationalism. Which has next to nothing to do with the vast canons of nationalist movements across Europe. If you're American, you're fucked really unless you want to go full neocon boomer-core. Just check out

[Anonymous No.11411918]

>>11411759
>There is literally no argument for promoting mass immigration and race-mixing
Maybe you should read something that presents any of the numerous arguments for freer migration.

Free and open markets for everything including labor and real estate will provide greater prosperity for all. If you're too neurotic to deal with that then please go take a long walk off a short pier and stay out of the way of my wealth and well-being.

[Anonymous No.11412016]

>>11411759
>no argument for race-mixing
Geneticist here. From a scientific standpoint the opposite is true: there's no argument for deliberately avoiding what you call race-mixing.

[Anonymous No.11412033]

>>11411756
muh blank slatism

[Anonymous No.11412042]

>>11411918
>will provide greater prosperity for all
If you assume that differences in trust or ability to maintain norms among populations do not exist, which is patently insane.

[Anonymous No.11412048]

>>11412042
If you think your feelings override observed trends then I don't know what to tell you. Maybe you should start an account on Tumblr so you can share all your feelings with the other sensitive souls there.

[Anonymous No.11412049]

>>11412048
Im curious how homegenous your neighborhood is?

[Anonymous No.11412080]

>>11412033
Tabula rasa doesn’t mean what you think it means

[Anonymous No.11412087]

>>11412016
>What is conservation

[Anonymous No.11412110]

>>11411720
use "ethnicity" instead of "race", nobody outside of the USA takes "race" seriously

[Anonymous No.11412113]

>>11411821
Mussolini never actually believed in the racial bullshit, only deported jews just to please hitler

[Anonymous No.11412117]

>>11412049
Not very homogeneous at all. Right at 60% non-hispanic white with about even numbers of asian and black in the remainder. The S&P500 and 100 companies plus the university and the startups it's spun off don't seem to mind.

[Anonymous No.11412134]

>>11411918
Yet despite mass immigration, the majority of the population have not become more prosperous. And even if they did, economic gains are not the only factor that can contribute to a happy individual and healthy society. There is also, in Europe at least, mass opposition to continued immigration despite years of public information campaigns/propaganda espousing the benefits. Is that purely based on ignorance and tribal emotion, or would you accept that there is perhaps another factor at play that causes people to continue to oppose it, i.e. some other negative social aspect of immigration that is being ignored by government?

[Anonymous No.11412141]

>>11412117
why do you americans think you can have a racial homogeneous country when you had to make up the "white race" concept in the first place because you were already a mixture of various "white" ethnicities and then deliberately imported blacks

[Anonymous No.11412148]

>>11412016
How fucking bad at your job are you that you don't realize that mass immigration has routinely killed off genotypic diversity in human history.

https://nytimes.com/2006/10/18/world/americas/18iht-web.1018eyes.3199975.html

[Anonymous No.11412151]

>>11412117
your neighborhood is 20% black?

[Anonymous No.11412166]

>>11412134
>despite years of public information campaigns/propaganda espousing the benefits
I have seen none of this in Italy, besides some politicians saying that we needed to keep up the working population to pay retirement money for boomers, which is actually true

[Anonymous No.11412169]

>>11412151
Nearly.

>>11412141
What is this word salad? I just answered the question as near as I could and said it was not homogeneous.

>>11412134
I think the governments are doing what their people won't and filling the demand for more workers and consumers by allowing more immigration. Maybe if so many first-worlders weren't too busy staring at their own navels to reproduce there wouldn't be such a demand.

[Anonymous No.11412191]

>>11412141
americans didnt make up the white race concept, it is centuries older than america, and every other race that comes into contact with europeans groups them together into a vague 'white race'

[Anonymous No.11412218]

>>11412169
>Demand for more workers
>Rampant unemployment
wow. its almost as you're asspulling bs to fit your perspective :O

Jeez, Portugal, Italy, Spain, Greece, France and etc really need more more people! Especially Spain! A 30% unemployment rate is not enough!!! We must go higher!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.11412223]

>>11412141
Do you honestly not understand the difference between a society of mostly the same ancestry (+85% European) and some multikulti shithole where everyone is only out for their own group? The left here is actively trying to shift the demographics to take the historical majority culture (broadly European) and turn it into an ever shrinking minority. Of course there is opposition that isn't articulated very well but the concern is real.

[Anonymous No.11412224]

>>11412169
>I think the governments are doing what their people won't and filling the demand for more workers and consumers by allowing more immigration.
I think so too but if people are benefiting by cheaper goods and services because of low-wage immigrants then why is it still so widely opposed. Do you think it's 100% ignorance/racism?

[Anonymous No.11412234]

>searching out books that reinforce/confirm your political views

[Anonymous No.11412237]

>>11412218
Would those 30% be willing to relocate to countryside farms to pick vegetables for below the minimum wage?

[Anonymous No.11412240]

works of Hamilton desu

[Anonymous No.11412241]

>>11411918
Maybe you should return to leddit where you belong

[Anonymous No.11412245]

>>11412237
>for below the minimum wage?
why not replace their welfare with paid work New Deal style

[Anonymous No.11412264]

>>11412218
The labour market is not a zero-sum game

[Anonymous No.11412279]

>>11412224
Yes, by far the main reason people oppose immigration is fear of having to deal with unfamiliar things, a weak understanding of economics, and on top of it a selfish "fuck you got mine" approach to the world outside their neighborhood. Now quit asking.

[Anonymous No.11412284]

>>11412169
>I think the governments are doing what their people won't
gee I wonder if there’s a reason the people won’t you actual kike

[Anonymous No.11412302]

>>11412237
I don't answer to loaded questions. Make the point you want to make.

>>11412264
Did I say it was? Did I even imply it was?

>>11412279
>cliche predicates of those who don't follow the current zeitgeist
Let me retort with "you're a cuck" because you don't understand how political communities work since you ignore the emotional aspect that is not taken into account in Economics.
>but "muuh game theory"
Please. This redefinition of what "winning" and "losing" mean is so typical from charlatans that it pains me that I took Economics in college.

[Anonymous No.11412323]

>>11412302
>muh feelings
>you used language I think is cliched wow I can't even
>>>tumblr

[Anonymous No.11412341]

>>11412323
>muuuh homo econimicus
>muuuh failed science losing more and legitimacy and place in the academia
>>>reddit

[Anonymous No.11412369]

me again (>>11412302)

I would like to add that zero-sum games do exist in any type of market. Winning and losing are subjective and intersubjective categories of determinate situations. Of course economists are going to say that the labor market isn't a zero-sum game. They have bias to support. It is funny though how you're using "feelings" and "emotions" to depreciate others' arguments when economical utility is just that: a psychological/subjective value of something. Alas, there's no such as nonutility in economics. Why would that be? Don't certain goods distress the consumer? Why is only NOW with behavioral economics being this studied?

[Anonymous No.11412374]

>>11412237
What the fuck is the point of all these wage and labor and safety laws and regulations if they are just going to be ignored by importing people from the third world who don't understand the language and aren't educated on their rights as laborers in said country?
And top of all of that, now you're criticizing the actual citizens of these countries for living under these laws, laws which were massively campaigned for by progressives as absolute necessities for first world nations
I mean seriously what the fuck is going on here? Why have these laws at all if this is how they are treated?
I've seen this shit in my MHA classes, students and professors will criticize institutions for not offering high wages and health care plans. Then they will say we need immigrants because greedy Americans demand high wages and health care plans for work.

[Anonymous No.11412397]

>>11411720
That way lieth ethnic cleansing anon, realize the hate in your heart is just some tribal monkey shit and move on, it ain't like your opinion is going to save the day anyway, you just wanna lend some respectability to your hate, right?

[Anonymous No.11412539]

>>11412223
Nobody owns Europe, it belongs to everyone.

[Anonymous No.11412545]

>>11412539
the entire earth belongs to everyone you pleb

[Anonymous No.11412548]

>>11412113
True
Mussolini was based af

[Anonymous No.11412584]

>>11412397
>English move into North America, replace population
My god! The English EXTERMINATED those noble savages. How downright MEAN! History will judge them for this.
>africans move into germany, replace population
That way lieth ethnic cleansing anon, realize the hate in your heart is just some tribal monkey shit and move on, it ain't like your opinion is going to save the day anyway, you just wanna lend some respectability to your hate, right?

[Anonymous No.11413292]

>>11412548
Where to start with Mussolini?

[Anonymous No.11413297]

>>11411759

Other way round

[Anonymous No.11413306]

heres a couple charts i found on /pol/ a while back but havent used yet
1/2

[Anonymous No.11413310]

2/2

[Anonymous No.11413311]

>>11413292
you could read the Doctrine of Fascism, it's pretty short. Idk much about the italian meme man, but that text is sort of interesting

[Anonymous No.11413359]

Mosley is the best introduction to Fascism

[Anonymous No.11414078]

Bump

[Anonymous No.11414085]

>>11412080
What does it mean?

[Anonymous No.11414111]

>I want you to subsidize my fantasy of being a feudal lord
>if you don't do this you're a communist
>check it out guys I found a way to derive ethical truth from logic and facts, no fee fees or morals here
>haha nice it confirms that the only reason I'm not already the uebermensch is that I'm oppressed by naturally inferior apes
>*collects public university paycheck*
At least he's not Rand.

[Anonymous No.11414119]

>>11412234
Tbh you should both be doing that and looking for books opposing, to learn more about the arguments on both sides.

[Anonymous No.11415315]

>>11412584
>english move into North America
>africans move into germany
>i think these happened in the exact same way with the exact same power dynamics and thus are equivalent
>people who believe one of these events was favorable and one was unfavorable are idiots
>i believe one of these events was favorable and one was unfavorable
Please try to form an opinion for yourself instead of for your opponents.

[Anonymous No.11415318]

>>11411720
Sound arguments? There aren't any empirically based arguments because it only works in a theoretical setting that sets arbitrary boundaries.

[Anonymous No.11415333]

>>11415315
>Please try to form an opinion for yourself instead of for your opponents
>only I’m allowed to do that
yawn

[Anonymous No.11415530]

>>11411720
Foundations of the 19th century by Houston Chamberlain
It's the start of the German myth, it's what redpilled the Nazis

[Anonymous No.11415535]

>>11411720
Heidegger's post ww2 work was a correcting of liberal post modernism that sprang from him

[Anonymous No.11415554]

>>11411759
>There is literally no argument for promoting mass immigration and race-mixing
It seems you have no argument against it. Thats why you come to /lit/ asking for books that you can just reference instead of actually using your brain.

[Anonymous No.11415556]

>mass immigration after WW2
>golden era of prosperity after WW2
Really gets the noggin' joggin'

[Anonymous No.11415567]

>>11415333
>yawn
upvoted, my friend!

[Anonymous No.11415685]

>>11415556
>kill, ban or subdue Nazis after WW2
>economy booms

Yep

[Anonymous No.11415989]

>>11411918
B A S E D