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Any good books on subversion and social engineering?

>> No.11403489

>>11403478
I honestly doubt there are any good books on the topic. You can find something that would document things during Cold War, propaganda during World War. However, recent times are clouded in an all around propaganda. My go to rule is that you should never read anything on the topic by an US author. They have been bullshitting way too much and for way too long. No one should take them seriously.

>> No.11403503

Every one of those posts reads like a parody/satire/shitpost. Is /leftypol/ full of memers, or are they really all THAT far up their own asses?

>> No.11403505

>>11403478
The Protocols of the Elders of Zion

>> No.11403519

>>11403489
OP here. I just wanted to post this pic so I can get more people to join our redpill crusade against miscegenation and white genocide.
Whenever someone expressed anti-far-right views make sure you post this picture, so everyone who sees the thread will think that the author of the leftist statement is a /leftypol/ infiltrator. I much prefer infographics and screenshots from social media to books

>> No.11403520

>>11403519
Based.

>> No.11403525

>>11403519
You're fighting the wrong fight here, pal. You try to outroll the trolls in their natural habitat, which is internet. They have no influence over anything without it.

>> No.11403546

>>11403503
>or are they really all THAT far up their own asses?
They really are. Far left subreddits are even more delusional

>>11403519
You're not OP, I am

>> No.11403556

>>11403519
Why does leftism get critiqued in a way that right-wing politics doesn't? Are leftists pussies that can't hold the right accountable? People will genuinely balk at this picture but you can openly say you're from /pol/ trying to convince people you're right and they'll just take that as a day to day happening. Same shit in mainstream politics. Call out the right for being hypocrites and nothing happens, point out hypocrisy on the left and even steadfast liberals are suddenly concerned about the integrity of their movement. I don't really grasp this dynamic. I mean let's be real, you're a right winger who just openly admitted to trying to change public opinion on /lit/, you're literally everything you hate about that image, but no one seems to really be giving a shit.What's up with this phenomenon?

>> No.11403558

>/lit/ - Gommies """""Doing Battle""""" with Nazis who are reading their first books since high school
I fucking hate this board desu

>> No.11403570

>>11403556
you're replying to a falseflag post, numbnuts
maybe 'redpill crusade' was too subtle?

>> No.11403575
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11403575

>>11403570
To be fair I'm incredibly drunk. Nevermind guys, I'mma go cry to videos of dogs being put down.

>> No.11403586

>>11403519
>>11403546
OP here, I am a gigantic faggot

>> No.11403621

>>11403478
>caring about converting a dozen of basement dwellers incapable of leaving their homes, let alone change the status quo
The absolute state of leftism.

>> No.11403639

>>11403478
>5 people on an Indian basket weaving forum are somewhat radical

HOLY SHIT GUYS, THE COMMIES ARE TRYING TO DESTROY OUR MINDS.

>> No.11404463

>>11403639
Thanks for telling us everything is going to be alright Rabbi and that we should keep calm and carry on!

>> No.11404523

>>11403503
What do you expect from mentally ill trannys larping as communists.

>> No.11404718

>>11403556
>Call out the right for being hypocrites and nothing happens, point out hypocrisy on the left and even steadfast liberals are suddenly concerned about the integrity of their movement

In very broad terms, the reason this exists is due to the personalities of both groups. The left has made a career of moralizing and moral grandstanding, it feeds off of moral high ground because their primary attack is emotional persuasion often through group pressure which demands the perception of integrity. Hypocrisy completely undermines this power, which is why the left, being hypocritical humans, eventually developed ways of cloaking hypocrisy through obscure ideological arguments coded into language (for example a feminist only wants equal rights but when an egalitarian criticizes feminism they must be an MRA or Incel, and when an egalitarian criticizes racism on the left they're accused of 'whataboutism' or are given sneers about 'reverse racism').

On the other hand, conservatives and right wingers tend to value individualism and traditional values of pragmatism and thus results. They accept unequal outcomes as a result of nature, and accept hypocrisy if it has a practical purpose of producing results outweighing the embarrassment. In other words, aside from religious types who are especially pious, hypocrisy isn't considered a mortal sin on the right unless it drags others down with the perpetrator. The right are not typically idealists like the left.

>> No.11404878

>>11404718
That’s funny, I perceive it as the opposite: that leftists are more willing to get their hands dirty with manipulative Rules for Radicals stuff for the greater good, but mainstream conservatives are too bogged down in “muh principles” to form an effective opposition.

>> No.11404968

>>11403505
That was a crafted narrative.

>> No.11405838

>>11404968
The Rabbis make plenty of crafted narratives too.

>> No.11405858
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11405858

>leftists think they are "subverting" fascism by enticing fascists toward legitimate third-positionism and national SOCIALISM
>a good half of leftist theory of the last 150 years is trying to stop vanguardists and sorelians from absorbing all the leftists, while the proper "left" is stuck with all the pussy faggots who don't like concepts like "virility"

Yes, go on, subvert

>> No.11407492

>>11405858
Based

>> No.11407500 [DELETED] 

Just check out /leftypol/ and /litpat/, we're both actively trying to get old 4chan browsers who hate the new culture of the board to make the switch

Remember, pretty much all 8ch posters are just 4chan oldfags

>> No.11407510

Society of the spectacle

>> No.11407517

>>11407500
Abandoning ships isn’t a solution to a rat problem, they’ll just follow you to the other boat

>> No.11407524

>>11407500
I tried to use 8ch for a while but it was full of fucking faggots

/pol/ was full of tryhard seriousposters who were more like TRS/white nationalist wannabe skinhead faggots. /v/ was full of "retro gamers" who had internalized that the best way to insult someone with different taste in video games is to say they are from 4chan and the PURE OLD SKOOL 8CHNNERS ONLY HAVE THE L33T OPINIONS. And /leftypol/ had that same queer vibe of somethingawful goons where you know half of them are trannies who stick things up their assholes and have pilonidal cysts.

>> No.11407527 [DELETED] 

>>11407517
Not if you ban them

:^)

>> No.11407537 [DELETED] 

>>11407524
The good thing about 8ch is that the boards are fairly isolated, people who are interested in /pol/shit are fairly contained, same with leftypol desu

Also, no captcha, pdf uploading, webm w sound, ton of other nice shit make 8ch a superior site

>> No.11407560

>>11403478
not a book but interesting nonetheless

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4

>> No.11407577

>>11403478
Post like this make me happy, because at least I'm not THAT much of a loser.

>> No.11407581 [DELETED] 

Check out 8ch dot net / 32

It's a board dedicated to 'psychopolitics'

>> No.11407599

>>11403478
Replying to this image.

>> No.11407605

>>11403556
Because "leftist" views are aligned with all major governments/corporations/banks, and are therefore pro-establishment. At least the pseudo-nazis on pol know that they're arguing for (or really, what they're arguing against).

>> No.11407607

>>11407581
Fuck off shill

>> No.11407619 [DELETED] 

>>11403556
Come to /litpat/, brother, creepy /pol/tards like this are banned

Apparently this shit is accepted by /lit/ mods... it's been going on for awhile

>> No.11407624 [DELETED] 

>>11407607
Fuck off /pol/tard

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11407629

>>11403478
>implying /lit/ites aren't all libertarian bros

>> No.11407639

>>11407619
Bye bye /leftypol/

>> No.11407655

>>11407624
Nice boogeyman you've constructed there

>> No.11407676

>>11407629
God i hate ancaps, they don't understand what anarchy means

>> No.11407699 [DELETED] 

>>11407629
That's a good meme, trs shill, now fuck off to your watered down /pol/ brainlet site

>> No.11407703 [DELETED] 

>>11407639
I like /leftypol/ but I don't actively browse, not sure how telling /pol/ faggots to fuck off makes me a leftist

>> No.11407719
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11407719

>>11407676
>>11407699
git, pinko scum

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>>11407719
God. I think the /pol/ bitch is running out of memes, each image gets progressively less amusing

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>>11407719
Let me ask you something, how exactly do you expect to protect your assets (let alone have an acceptable currency)? Are you going to somehow buy predator missiles as you so like to say which each one cost around a million? I'll suspend some disbelief and say you bought like 11 and your ancap buddies bought the rest. But now you want to buy a 12th one and yet they are out of stock, so either you buy one from your friends or you make your own. If you go with the former and you don't have a central currency then 10,000 of your currency can be equal to one of his and then you are poorer just because you can't come to an agreement. Then in the latter case you try and make a missle. First you have to mine the ore which you don't know how to do, the smelt it which you don't know how to do, then construct it which you don't know how to do. but lets say you try and hire some people to do it for you, well what if they don't accept your currency?
Now i bet you're thinking "well then let me just have a central currency". Well whats it backed by, who's going to enforce it, because if there is no government then you aren't getting guarantee for either of those things.
Ancap is an oxymoron and it's believers are regular morons

>> No.11409189

>>11403478
/lit/ has way more influence over /leftypol/ than /leftypol/ has over /lit/

>> No.11409195

>>11403478
Yes

>> No.11409200

>>11403478
pol is shit by the way

>> No.11409206

>>11407765
>set up a bunch of councils and syndicates, and a russian commisar in the corner
>muh anarchism and liberdy

Pretty weird even a retarded greentext can destroy left-anarchism.

>> No.11409252

plenty for ww2 and cold war Era shit
if you want to see modern examples just take a trip to /pol/ or /tv/

>> No.11409420

>only the well read are left
i'm very sad it's too late to send them to the cambodian call for teachers under the the khmer rogue. time to ignore US english posters again.

>> No.11410327

>>11404878
>That’s funny, I perceive it as the opposite: that leftists are more willing to get their hands dirty with manipulative Rules for Radicals stuff for the greater good, but mainstream conservatives are too bogged down in “muh principles” to form an effective opposition.
That is exactly why leftists fail. You force ideas not based in principles and will break moral and ethic codes of your own community to prove yourself right.

The left is like Koba of the movie planet of the apes. You betray your kin for your own gain.
Of course the right cant form an effective opposition when the political opposition of its own nation is willing to sell their soul to the devil for power.

>> No.11410422

>>11404718
Yes. 100% this. I cannot fucking stand the shitty leftist personality, and I actually agree with every leftist stance, but they have to be perfect little bitches about everything and if they get 90% of the things they want, they'll still complain about human rights or some other shit they don't really care about

>> No.11410432

>>11404878
Not at all. No leftists actually read Rules for Radicals it's strictly a right wing meme. I'm a leftist and I'm actually TRYING to get my friends to read it but they won't budge. They're reading shit like kropotkin and Howard Zinn and talking about Hegel. Leftists will sooner read 10,000 pages of pure theory than read one slim book on how to actually apply their philosophy to life. It's pathetic.
Also, Rules for Radicals was kind of a letdown. Mostly it was just teaching basic charisma and how to not get bogged down by stupid responses from right wingers. Nothing you wouldn't be able to find in any book on business (which are mostly consumed by the non religious right)

>> No.11410440

>>11403519
Good work lad. The Left can't handle dissenting opinions, all you have to do is post and their unstable minds (all are on antidepressants and/or mood stabilisers) break and are plunged into anguish. They're already abandoning /lit/ for an eightchan safespace they keep spamming the board with.

>> No.11410456

>>11410440
not all Leftists are like that m8. Some of them will actually debate. They do have a lot of hysterical people though

>> No.11411463

>>11407765
Not that poster but cryptocurrencies serve ancaps well and many ancaps are in favor of cryptocurrencies

Decentralizes control (well some do, like monero)

Eventually cryptocurrencies will become more widespread and you will be able to easily pay for anything with cryptocoin much like a debit card

>> No.11412811

>>11410432
>I'm a leftist

>> No.11412866

>>11407629
Ancaps are the lowest form of anarchism.
Even ancoms are more anarchic than a ancap

>> No.11412904

>>11409189
this /leftypol/ is literally like half a dozen guys from /lit/ and it probably wouldn't even exist if discord had been made a few years earlier
the only reason you ever hear about them is because retards need an ebin opposition

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>> No.11414082

>>11404878
The right do have principles, it's just that hypocrisy isn't high priority to them. The right seems to value integrity, loyalty, and work as core values aside from traditions which vary between cultures. It's why they won't engage in a long March through the institutions to counter leftists. They see that as fundamentally dishonest. The left has a high priority on hypocrisy probably because it relates to a testing mechanism. The left cares most about ideological conformity and hypocrisy undermines that.

>> No.11415413

>>11403478
>good books on subversion
Hacking the human social engineering techniques and security countermeasures - Ian Mann.

>> No.11415586

>>11403478
I know this is just another thinly veiled /pol/ thread as >>11403519 describs it, but I am really interested in the OP, can anyone recommend a reading list?

>> No.11416286

What deters me the most about leftism is the amount of mentally deranged fags and dykes in their ranks and their worship of brown people. I checked out an antifa protest a year ago - it was exactly as I had imagined it would be. Riddled with tumblerinas, junkies and general rejects of society. When they arrived at the scene they were literally spearheaded by a group of ghetto-muzzies shouting allahu akbar as they charged forward. You faggots have the absolute fucking worst optics of any political movement this wretched planet has ever seen

>> No.11416345

>>11407524
litpat

>> No.11416405
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[ERROR]

>the absolute brainlet state of /pol/ falseflagging

What came of the 4th of july falseflag tumblr raid? And how pathetic on a scale of 1-10 is it that /pol/ needs these false flags to stay relevant? Pic related is perhaps the most ridiculous and transparent example, but honestly, they are all equally gay.

>>11403621

Goes for /pol/ and rightism as well m8.

>> No.11417616

>>11416405
Nice try Rabbi.