/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11369948]

Hey /lit/, /pol/tard here. I've read several different English translations of Mien Kampf, most recently this one. Can someone explain to me how Mien Kampf is supposedly "poorly written"? All the versions I've read seem to be written fine for the genre.

[Anonymous No.11369961]

>>11369948
Becaise you are brain;ey only big brainn dont like hitler

[Anonymous No.11369965]

>>11369948
>fine for the genre.
so you mean a piece of propaganda?

[Anonymous No.11369968]

>>11369948
Start With the Greeks

[Anonymous No.11369972]

>>11369965
Yes.

[Anonymous No.11369973]

>>11369948
Go straight to David Irving's opinion about Mein Kampf and then find yourself a real book to read (perhaps, conveniently enough, at the same site).
http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/History/Vuksanovich020602.html

[Anonymous No.11369993]

I've generally noticed that the Nazis' real evil and nastiness, which is more than significant in its own right, has been inflated to even greater heights by people who seek to demonize them as the ultimate evil. So the Nazis weren't just eugenicists and genociders, now they're stupid, too, and they worship devils. It reaches the point that the Nazis have stopped being a real example of man's inhumanity to man and have become kind of comic book supervillains--to the point where they literally are used as supervillains in comic books.

I actually think this is a big part of the reason why they came back into fashion among the average 4channer. They're so taboo, so outrageous, so overwhelmingly demonized, that contrarians started to adopt Nazi imagery and attitudes purely to get a rise out of people online. It was all ironic at first, of course, but you know what Descartes said about ironic communities...

[Anonymous No.11370009]

>>11369993
i actually just agree with most of what HItler had to say. I think the degree to which he obsessed about jews is a bit much, but other than that he seems sensible to me

[Anonymous No.11370017]

The good side won WWII, the only reason you fucking retarded losers want to LARP as Nazis is because this is a Japanese animation-based imageboard. Fucking weirdos.

[Anonymous No.11370025]

>>11370009
Hitler should never have gotten rid of that one economic minister who wanted to ban lending money at interest. He left pretty early on once the Nazis officially too power, same with Carl Schmitt. In general they purged all their interesting thinkers very soon after Hitler actually achieved power, and they were left with shitters like Goering.

[Anonymous No.11370040]

>>11369993
I mean the average nazi was pretty stupid, and a lot of them were magical LARPers

[Anonymous No.11370051]

>>11370040
The "average Nazi" was just your average bumblefuck German conscript, though, of course they were stupid. Most soldiers are stupid.

[Anonymous No.11370058]

>>11370051
and most germans

[Anonymous No.11370065]

>>11370025
they could have gotten rid of bad Jewish behavior without getting rid of all of the Jews. Like you mention money lending. You apply this to some other areas like the press and you solve the problem without any need for genocide, and what's more you solve the problem more thoroughly because that behavior was not limited exclusively to jews.

[Anonymous No.11370071]

>>11370025
if you get rid of all of the retardedness of nazism, it just becomes socialism

[Anonymous No.11370084]

>>11369993
Eri Hotta's Japan 1941 is full of fascinating and unique information about the inner workings of the Japanese government just prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor. If you like the period it's a must read.
But it's marred by Hotta's brainless airhead comments, protesting vigorously that Nazism is Bad, stretching the meanings of words in ways that would not be acceptable from a child, abd general PC. At one point there is a controversy over the Pact and it could possibly go a few different ways. Some elements of the government say that Operation Barbarossa cancels out all Japanese obligations to Germany because it violated the agreements with Stalin. But that asks us to believe that Japan did not have extensive cultural and personal connections to Germany. When Tojo, who joined an officer's clique **in**Germany**, hears about the proposed withdrawal from the still-quickening alliance, he is outraged. Understandably so. But not understandableto award-winning historian Hotta, who now babbles that the Meiji foundational philosophy of the Japanese military ("the imperial rescript to soldiers and sailors") dictated brotherly loyalty to the Bolsheviki. She is also really wierd, almost to the point of dishonesty, is mentioning Japan's Siberian defeats. That's probably because if she described them properly, readers would more quickly understand that Japan was tied to Germany in almost every way that countries can be tied, formal treaty or not, and Japan signed an emergency truce with Stalin not because of a wildly dishonest interpretation of the rescript but because Zhukov had kicked their ass badly enough to make them cry Ojisan.
It's a great book if you can ignore all the hall monitor judgmentalism.

[Anonymous No.11370095]

>>11370065
The Germans allowed themselves to be made into the bad guys. Imagine if Hitler had armed and supplied Jews -- and turned them loose, with cutting edge German materièl, on the British-administered Mandate of Palestine?!!

[Anonymous No.11370130]

>>11370071
>>11370095
If the Nazis had been purely revanchist they probably could have established German hegemony over the continent. The racial autism is what screwed them in the end.

[Anonymous No.11370156]

>>11369993
Mostly in America, though. I haven't noticed this as much in Eastern Europe.They were very real here and as for the Russians, they usually treat nazis as a harmless butt of a joke.

[Anonymous No.11370160]

>>11369948

It's just butt hurt commies on /lit/. Only complaint about its writing is it's a bit long-winded and obtuse.

[Anonymous No.11370164]

>>11369993
Is there a good book on this phenomenon?
Not only about nazism, but the current rise of nationalism and the far-right
Something sensible and not a piece of propaganda, preferably

[Anonymous No.11370224]

>>11370164
No book worth reading on the subject will be written until it's already finished happening. Right now we're in the moment and working with incomplete information.

[Anonymous No.11370248]

>>11369948
Since you're a self proclaimed /pol/tard who read many English translations, can you please tell me which translation is the least pozzed?

[Anonymous No.11370258]

>>11370164
Check out the Strange Death of Europe by Douglas Murray. The root of the problem isn't "nazism," it's real problems which are visible to people but denied by the mass media and hot potatoed by the politicians. You want us to go away, don't censor and lie, actually deal with the problems.

[Anonymous No.11370265]

>>11370224
And what do you think will be the result, anon?
I think we'll experience ambiental collapse or the rise of an AI god before anything big happens on politics, but if I'm wrong, I also don't see people replicating what we saw in Nazi Germany.
Perharps we'll see the collapse of globalization?

[Anonymous No.11370277]

>>11370248
Probably the Ford Translation.

[Anonymous No.11370280]

>>11370130
There was an incident off Africa where a U-boot sunk an Allied vessel, then began as they often did rescuing the shipwrecked. Then Allied planes appeared and strafed everybody. The Germans complained that they were shooting their own and the response was that Germany was responsible (in a kind of legal sense, not directly). That's the whole war right there. Germany is responsible for everything that happened by every actor, and for behaviors and laws that precaded the Nazi government.

[Anonymous No.11370327]

>>11370280
Right but situations like that are very minimal when compared to the barbarism of the germans in the East

[Anonymous No.11370363]

>>11370327
You're missing my point.
Imagine Assad whips out a superweapon tomorrow and completely destroys Israeli military, media, and financial power in a minute. How will Israel be described in the news and histories?

[Anonymous No.11370364]

>>11369948
>fine for the genre.
Manifestos are the adventure sci-fi of non-fiction, even the good ones are written pretty badly.

[Anonymous No.11370723]

>>11370009
>I think the degree to which he obsessed about jews is a bit much, but other than that he seems sensible to me
>I disagree with a key tenet of National Socialism, but other that it seems sensible to me

[Anonymous No.11370732]

>>11370156
There was a punk rock movement in Britain that adopted Nazi imagery retard

[Anonymous No.11371211]

Mein kamph is a tiny piece of shit

[Anonymous No.11371217]

>>11369948
Table Talks is better.

[Anonymous No.11371300]

>>11370363
Probably well as the following year would see a coalition destroy Syria as quickly as possible.

[Anonymous No.11371311]

>>11370280
What exactly is your point? That Germany is treated badly by history? They certainly deserve it.

[Anonymous No.11371322]

>>11369948
It was riddled with grammatical errors

[Anonymous No.11371330]

>>11369948
It's the Nazi 'Dreams of my Father.' Don't die on that hill.

[Anonymous No.11371331]

>>11369948
The funniest thing about that book is that the book is badly written. I mean not just in terms of ideology, but it's badly structured and full of ramblings. Hitler himself admitted it.

[Anonymous No.11371378]

>>11371311
do you really think the nazis were so much worse than the allied forces, isn't it possible that your view has been influenced by propaganda or do you really think only the germans did propaganda? or the soviets or whatever the enemy was? and do you really think the wehrmacht was any different from the british or american army? Do you really presume that you know so much and there weren't good reasons to vote for the nsdap, 40% of germans were just evil or stupid? And you just say that the other 60% - the whole country "deserved" it, history is not black and white and not that simple, try to broaden your horizon a little, presume less and try to entertain two opposite opinions in your brain.

[Anonymous No.11371384]

>>11371311

>>11371378

wasn't meant specifically for you, but there's this overarching consensus of dissmissing opinions and that dishonest unscientific viewpoint just rustled my jimmies

[Anonymous No.11371396]

>>11369973
I saw the interview with Irving. Regardless of the authenticity, there is some interesting analysis in Mein Kampf. Further, it was approved for publication by his party. It is not without direct connection to the context.

[Anonymous No.11371408]

>>11371311
>That Germany is treated badly by history?
>They certainly deserve it.
If the deserving is presupposed then the blame is circular logic.

[Anonymous No.11371414]

>>11369993
The same thing has been happening rather oddly often in metal and punk subcultures for some time now, at least since the mid 90s (maybe earlier, I couldn't say)

[Anonymous No.11371425]

>>11371378
There is no great conspiracy of historians, and the tired history is written by the victors adage certainly doesn't hold when referring to events that still have living memories. The Wehrmacht committed far more war crimes than the American or British army. It is a fact. Furthermore, even if they had been clean, they were fighting a war for the cause of racial destruction, even if they didn't do so personally.
You always make statements like this that seem nice and intelligent to the passing man. That nothing is black and white and that everyone has dirt on their shoes, but at the very bottom of your argument (and it is an argument you make so much in such an unchanged way that it becomes tiring) is that there is some backroom cabal of men with history doctorates who have come together to slander the German name. Certainly, the US and the UK put a lot of work into making themselves look good and Germany look bad during the war and even after, but this has no effect on a serious academic. You seem to misunderstand the very process on which this works.

[Anonymous No.11371442]

>>11371378
>history is not black and white and not that simple, try to broaden your horizon a little, presume less and try to entertain two opposite opinions in your brain

[Anonymous No.11371514]

>>11370017
>ussr
>good side

[Anonymous No.11371523]

>>11370058
Most people.

[Anonymous No.11372186]

>>11371378
Well yeah. They litteraly put a guy who raped a teenager in charge of a criminal unit whose entire goal was to pillage and rape.

[Anonymous No.11372198]

>>11369993
cringe

[Anonymous No.11372209]

>>11371442
>reee this pictures shows that your opinion is so evil that my irrational behaviour is justified

[Anonymous No.11372298]

you think the jews would have been as hated as the nazis are toady if the nazis had won the war?

[Anonymous No.11372311]

>>11372298
>Implying their'd still be Jews left to hate.

[Anonymous No.11372550]

>>11370723
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make dude.

[Anonymous No.11372576]

>>11371425
>t there is some backroom cabal of men with history doctorates who have come together to slander the German name
Strawman. Propaganda is in large part honestly believed by the people who make it. you're free to see Nazis as uniquely evil cartoon villains but it makes you a retard. Ask yourself why this one country would be so much more evil than any other humans, it makes zero sense.

[Anonymous No.11372593]

>>11370009

Then you probably mean that you agree with facism, but not nazism. The key difference is the race stuff. I doubt that neonazis aim to serve the german overlords and enslave slavs. Especially since neonazism is pretty popular in russia.

[Anonymous No.11372850]

>>11372576
Explain why human can't be evil?

>more evil than any other country

Only dumb mutt like you believe this. The reason we remember the nazi so much is because it happened recently AND they were one of the biggest european country.

>Propaganda is in large part honestly believed by the people who make it

Just look at holocaust denial stuff, it's impossible that some deniers never realised they were peddling complete bullshit. I'm sure severals artists didn't care about the regime they made painting of.

[Anonymous No.11374168]

You can’t make a judgement on how well it’s written until you’ve read it in German, retard. Of course a translator is going to liven up the text any way he wishes...

[Anonymous No.11374173]

What is the best anti-Jewish literature? Stuff like culture of critique or Sex and Character

[Anonymous No.11374229]

>>11374173
Have you read Jewish History, Jewish Religion: the Weight of 3000 Years by Israel Shahak?
There's a pamphlet from the forties titled Jews Must Eat.
I would avoid Michael Hoffman (he's good but dives straight into the weeds) at least at first.
E Michael Jones has the indispensable but thick Jewish Revolutionary Spirit.
Look for lectures by Fr Matthew Raphael Johnson on youtube (use hooktube, same url but replace you with hook) or archive dot org.
Sniegoski's Cabal, Gilad Atzmon's books, and the documentary Defamation are extremely good.
Steve Oney's And The Dead Shall Rise is the definition treatment of the Leo Frank situation. Everything you see JIDF doing in a thread here, or what Abe Foxman did fot a living, they applied in a more primitive way then.
Ford's International Jew (like similar books from the period) are surprisingly balanced. The people defaming them have clearly not read them. There's one that says that Jews are good at business because they wake up in the morning and want to go to work, whereas, if a gentile could drink beer and fish in Fuddhalla, he would.

[Anonymous No.11374239]

>>11374173
And I forgot to mention but this is a must-read: Glenn Dynner's book on the Jewish arrangements in Eastern Europe: Yankel's Tavern. Inagine getting to payday and being told, oh, there'll be no money, but my friend Shlomo has been nice enough to set up a tab for you at his bar, which I am declaring the only place in this territory where you can buy certain items.
And the first drink's free.

[Anonymous No.11374246]

>>11372550
>>11370723
it's his way of saying he literally can't even right now. pay no mind to it

[Anonymous No.11374302]

>>11374239
Thanks I'll add this to my list and check them all out

[Anonymous No.11374312]

>>11370164
Pretty much this >>11370224
Either you see the far-right as a natural and legitimate response to the current state of Western nations or you see it as an abhorrent impermissible assault upon the core tenets of liberal democracy. You aren't really given a middling option. To accept the legitimacy or the validity, or the inevitability of the far-right response to the globalist Tower of Babel project is to be far-right in the eyes of "polite society".

[Anonymous No.11374326]

>>11372576
Because morality is subjective and the winners decided that the nazis's actions were the epitome of evil. If the nazis had won, we'd think that those opposing them were evil.

[Anonymous No.11374348]

>>11371378
dumbass apologist, stay on your containment board

[Anonymous No.11374355]

>>11372576
>Ask yourself why this one country would be so much more evil than any other humans

desperation

[Anonymous No.11374358]

>>11374348
when the rebutalls are always of this incredibly low quality you start to wonder

[Anonymous No.11374361]

>>11374358
collateral damage is a fact of war, a war they started...

[Anonymous No.11374368]

>>11374229
I'm so used to the dumb polarization on 4chan that I'm still trying to figure out if you are from /pol/ or if you are against it

[Anonymous No.11374378]

>>11374368
how is it at all ambiguous? he is clearly pol-aligned

[Anonymous No.11374401]

>>11370160
it's also pretty stupid and poorly thought out

[Anonymous No.11374404]

>>11374368
>>11374378
You can tell because he mentioned Jews.

[Anonymous No.11374405]

>>11374404
more just the casual anti-Semitism

[Anonymous No.11374410]

was hitler a repressed homosexual?

[Anonymous No.11374412]

>>11374410
most of the high ranking Nazis were raging homos.

I think Hitler was too autistic for any of that though

[Anonymous No.11374413]

>>11374404
I mean, they are usually more aggressive and write less. Anyways, I don't really buy this whole white genocide thing, to me it's just the effect of globalization and big corporations messing with politics to maximize their profit. The only thing that makes me think is the USA-Israel partnership in the middle east.

[Anonymous No.11374426]

>>11374413
I find anti-semite to be extremly jewish.

The USA-Israel deal probably give you something, even if it's just some sense of pride or whatever. My country supported the genocidaire during the Rwanda genocide because of dumb national pride.

[Anonymous No.11374439]

>people ITT saying nazism
>national socialismism

[Anonymous No.11374444]

>>11374368
... why not try reading some of the suggested works?

[Anonymous No.11374455]

>>11374413
It's a mix of both leftist ideologies (pushed by Jews) and globalization and maximization of profits. The capitalist elite had to get these ideas of homosexual rights, transgenderism, feminism, multiculturalism from somewhere to promote.

[Anonymous No.11374470]

>>11374455
And I forgot to mention many of these leftists and Jews have been able to weave their way to very influential positions to promote these policies because the capitalist elite has allowed and even encouraged them.

[Anonymous No.11374485]

>>11374312
I think it's a natural consequence of the lack of honest discussions for the sake of morality.
Hopefully we'll find some balance soon.

[Anonymous No.11374551]

>>11374455
That's fucking stupid. The catholic churches for exemple helped promote some of this idea, like feminism and multiculturalism. Women getting more legal voice is also having an influence as they tend to see the world in a more 'Opressed vs Tyrant' way. Hell, you could probably find plenty of groupes pushing for this kind of stuff if you didn't have your sight set on da jooooo


>>11374444
Antisemites works are a jokes. They have shown time and time again they're just as dishonest as their phantasmed ennemy. You'll need to constently search what is true and false.

[Anonymous No.11374634]

>>11374551
>he thinks the catholic church isn't right in with the capitalist elite

I mean it is within in their own self interest just to survive in the current climate to condone behavior like that.

[Anonymous No.11374709]

>>11369948
>I've read several different English translations of Mien Kampf
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11374716]

>>11374551
nobody is say it's purely da jooos life is more complicated then that and many other reasons factor it, but to not give credit where credit is due to the jews is just denying reality

[Anonymous No.11374806]

>>11374551
You sound like you've read widely.

[Anonymous No.11374885]

>>11371378
You're confusing the German people with Germany as a state. The latter certainly deserved what came to it; the people are the ones I reserve my sympathy for.

[Anonymous No.11374913]

i feel like everyone in this thread is just ignoring the fact that g*rmans are inherently evil

[Anonymous No.11375035]

>>11370265
Do you really believe that we're closer to singularity than the debt tower of babel collapsing?

[Anonymous No.11375069]

>>11374913
G*rmans are a very cold, insecure people, constantly cutting away their flesh and replacing it. Constantly flipping the table.

[Anonymous No.11375131]

>>11374551
>>11374413
>just the effect of globalization and big corporations messing with politics to maximize their profit
These are obviously vital elements of the equation, but there are some things that simply cannot be explained by this theory. Advertisements. Interracial marriages are still vastly the statistical minority, and the most common interracial couples in the U.S. are White-Asian, and White-Hispanic is also fairly common. Black-Hispanic is also common. Yet what do you see in advertisements? If they were a simple reflection of reality, or simply a way to virtue signal diversity, you would see these sorts of couples, yet for some reason the most common interracial couple you see in ads is Black male/ White female. Why do you think that is? Whether or not Jews are behind it is its own issue, but there is a clear drive observable in contemporary propaganda (advertisements are, in fact, propaganda) towards coupling which would result in the phenotypical obliteration of Whites. The hatred toward Whites and especially White men among 21st century leftists is explicit, one needs not spend much effort searching to find it. Whether or not the Jews were/are the conscious driving force behind the arrangement of this phenomenon is not the question, the question of "White Genocide" is whether or not it is happening, regardless of whoever or whatever is behind it.

[Anonymous No.11375218]

>>11375131
Plus profit maximizing makes zero sense coupled with defiant corporate statements about "standing up for justice." If it was all about profits then they'd be more sensitive to the complaints.

[Anonymous No.11375411]

>>11375131
Holy...

Wow anon you're definitely onto a super secret conspiracy to fuck da white wymmin. Maybe people just dont like racists so they normalize it? I mean it only makes logical sense to eliminate wypipo so we can make a slave class. I'm sure the world would accept slavery again with open arms. Also god forbid modern flight exists and you're the only retard who believes there's a fundamental difference in humanity based on being Indian or Asian or some shit. You can't Turing test race you absolute "I let the internet think for me instead of learning basic logic" retard. Have you ever read a book on logic? Do you just read whatever halfwit shit /pol/ believes is le based and redpilled? Congratulations, you let a website think for you.

[Anonymous No.11375487]

>>11369993
There is nothing evil about eugenics.

[Anonymous No.11375560]

>>11371414
the punk were using nazism since the beginning, in the 80s there was graffitism with lots of nazism
too

[Anonymous No.11375619]

>>11375411
>Maybe people just dont like racists so they normalize it?
Already covered that here
>what do you see in advertisements? If they were a simple reflection of reality, or simply a way to virtue signal diversity, you would see these sorts of couples, yet for some reason the most common interracial couple you see in ads is Black male/ White female.

[Anonymous No.11377349]

>>11369948
I can't speak of translations, but the German original gratuitous use of what you call 'Nominalstil' which contains a lot of nouns formed from other wort classes as well as having a number of other grammatical features (read up on it) that make for an all-around 'heavier' read. It can be said of German as whole that it has this lean to it, but Hitler used it everywhere and all the time to give artificial weight to his thoughts. On top of that his grasp of German grammar was much less than perfect (Hitler having dictated the text to Hess is a myth), 'was ich einst mir so schuf, nur weniges hinzuzulernen gemußt' (many such cases!).
He wasn't a very literary type either, disregarding the proven lies about his personal life, Mein Kampf is filled with kliches from the biographical genre of the time and kliches/common turns of phrase in general. It's fucking trite, all his contemporary Nazi buddies who had any taste commented that it was a laborious read, that he wrote books like long speeches. Mein Kampf interesting mostly as a historical document.

[Anonymous No.11377379]

>>11369948
because nazism is the weakest of the volk ideologies and the only right path towards a working totalitarian society is with the help of Falangism

[Anonymous No.11377389]

>>11372576

>Ask yourself why this one country would be so much more evil than any other humans, it makes zero sense.

Are you claiming that every country is equally good/evil at all moments in history? Is there no preferable social order or prevailing philosophy driving action in a culture, society, region, whatever at any moment?

[Anonymous No.11377440]

>>11377389
Humans are not infinitely malleable, there is a set of possible behaviors and Germans have in no way shown themselves to be more given to cruelty than other people. What is more likely, that all wars and exterminations and etc. are mostly pretty similar(ie. horrific) or that this one country, which just so happens to be the mortal enemy of all the most powerful countries today and whose history is basically an essential part of the whole modern progressive mindset, was evil incarnate.

you have to be ludicrously naive to believe this

[Anonymous No.11377443]

>>11370130
That's true, considering if the racial fuckery wasn't present, Germany could have struck a solid alliance with the Soviets

[Anonymous No.11377479]

>>11377440
Yes yes, there's no total evil and no country that is totally evil etc. et al., this trenchant insight has been brought up before, the other anon said something about black and white, so you just want to say that war's terrible and that's that? Fine, maybe the Wehrmacht committed atrocities equal to the Soviet Union. What an accomplishment! Okay the Allied forces weren't as bad in this regard, but maybe you're gonna claim American internment caps for Nips and pinkos were equal to those in Germany, or that Germany was a good as the US because they had some select few camps that were as pleasant as in America?

[Anonymous No.11377493]

>>11377479
The allied forces fire bombed entire cities full of civilians. As far as Im concerned this in no conceivable way any morally better than the Holocaust. And take almost any invading force in history and look at the rape and murder they commit, where exactly am i supposed to find moral superiority here? What because they didnt do exactly specifically what Germany did?

[Anonymous No.11377507]

>>11377493
Thank you, so your standpoint is really just one of total nihilism and/or relativism like mine, just say so instead of basing your claims on dubious statistics, half-baked psychology, and entry-level philosophy.

[Anonymous No.11377514]

>>11377507
Except it isn't moral relativism at all, i am drawing a clear line in the sand between acceptable behavior and 'evil', and saying that the evil is shown in every large scale war I can think of, making the Nazis just a particularly chilling example.


>dubious statistics, half-baked psychology, and entry-level philosophy.
Literally what are you even referring to?

[Anonymous No.11377600]

>>11377514

>making the Nazis just a particularly chilling example.

Not him but I'm losing track of this argument. I was under the impression you were rejecting the notion that the Nazis were more evil, maybe less preferable to the Allies. But here you seem to agree that they were particularly chilling. So I'm not sure what this is all about. The Nazis are regarded as particularly chilling, which is why they've become modern archetypal villains in mass culture.

[Anonymous No.11377662]

>>11377600
Well it's almost a matter of aesthetics. The way they carried out their mass murder is just...creepy.

But I believe the reason the Nazis are the new satan is because of the racial theory specifically. That idea has been extremely stamped out in the west, it is seen as the worst kind of opinion you can have really.

[Anonymous No.11377949]

>>11371425
>The Wehrmacht committed far more war crimes than the American or British army. It is a fact.
Can you give me a ballpark figure of how many more war crimes they committed? Since it's a fact

[Anonymous No.11377952]

>>11371425
'war crimes' were defined by the Allies so...

[Anonymous No.11378296]

>>11377662
So I guess you're not very familiar with Israel or with the targeting of European Christians by Communists.

[Anonymous No.11378307]

>>11369948
Its badly written if you have a high iq and aren’t a philistine. If you’ve only read nonfiction, and bad fiction you’ll be impressed with it.

[Anonymous No.11379194]

>>11378307
>iq
iq is not science anon. iq is pseudoscience.

[Anonymous No.11379205]

>>11379194
inb4 100+ replies

[Anonymous No.11379754]

>>11370164
The "far right" isn't new, it's the same right as always they just seem extreme right now because the overton window has been shifted so far to the left.

[Anonymous No.11379816]

>>11377952
How would you define war crimes then?

[Anonymous No.11379917]

>>11369993
that's because they messed with the chosen ones

[Anonymous No.11380168]

>>11379754
Good point.

[Anonymous No.11380244]

>>11379194
>abstract questions about shapes is racist n sheeit

[Anonymous No.11380275]

>>11370164
Erich Fromm's Escape From Freedom isn't about the current rise of nationalism as it was written during WWII but much of it is still relevant

[Anonymous No.11380292]

>>11370732
Britain is not Eastern Europe.

[Anonymous No.11380323]

>>11369948
Because it's an autobiography / memoir for the most part. He doesn't have the best understanding of political theory, having said that all of his beliefs are based on his life experiences. Which is tenfold better than the average person. Consider the Internet and the way information flows, people take it upon themselves to follow an ideology blindly without considering the ramifications. >>11369993 and the explanation of the phenomenon is where it goes. I'm a traveler myself, so I've been around communities that range from /pol/ to twitter alt-right, (((trs))), ect. but likewise on the otherhand I've also been around what is considered 'the left'. the underlying thing I've taken from all of them is 99% of the time they don't understand the bullshit they buy into. Nor do they understand their opponents at all, virtually all arguments they engage in shoot and miss represent what the other person is saying. It happens the most with uncle Adolf and Marx respectively. I'd say this is mostly because of just how boring (and sometimes badly translated) these works are.

[Anonymous No.11380425]

>>11369948
To OP and anyone else who is knowledgeable in the area what is the best translation + annotation in English? Is it a book where a correct translation makes a huge difference?

[Anonymous No.11380791]

>>11372593
Which only speaks of the group's intelligence
Both nazis and fascists had concentration camps filled with slavs.

[Anonymous No.11380832]

>>11374229
>Fuddhalla?

[Anonymous No.11380956]

>>11377514
so it's relativism. Thank you. There's just acceptable behaviour and perceived degrees of evil that don't matter because it's all evil any way.

[Anonymous No.11381013]

>>11369948
>/pol/tard here
>Mien Kampf
>Mien
You need to get the fuck out. Also
>I've read
Who are you trying to fool? We know /pol/tards don't read any books

[Anonymous No.11381086]

>>11379754
yeah, ethnic cleansing has been out of vogue since ww2

[Anonymous No.11381102]

>>11375218
>Plus profit maximizing makes zero sense coupled with defiant corporate statements about "standing up for justice."
yeah, who ever heard of a corporate shill lying
fucking moron

[Anonymous No.11381193]

>>11369948
learn german and read it in the master native tongue

[Anonymous No.11381328]

>>11377493
>muh dresden

Every time. Can't take shit, don't start shit.