/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11364797]

She’s right you know

[Anonymous No.11364811]

IJ is going to go down as a book that could have been great, but isn't.

[Anonymous No.11364814]

David Foster Wallace BTFO

[Anonymous No.11364823]

>womenspreading: when women "spread" themselves outside of their proper domain (i.e. household chores and childrearing) and attempt to comment upon or involve themselves with matters that are not their business
we need to stop all this womenspreading

[Anonymous No.11364856]

>>11364814
>>11364797
Why are western women so petty?

[Anonymous No.11364864]

>>11364823
This is good. Keep meming it.

[Anonymous No.11364871]

>>11364823
*snap*

[Anonymous No.11364877]

>>11364856
It's the easiest, laziest way to be "intellectual" in our society. One could become a Catholic intellectual, or a libertarian intellectual, or a Marxist intellectual, etc, but that would require thought and nuance. If one becomes a feminist, however, all they have to do is complain and use a few cliches over and over and they're perceived as woke in the academic setting.

[Anonymous No.11364879]

>>11364856
Because they take their orders from a jewish culture that projects hatred of white men onto them.

[Anonymous No.11364883]

>>11364797
>>11364811
>>11364814
>>11364823
>>11364856
>>11364864
>>11364871
STOP RESPONDING TO FUCKING SCREENSHOTS OF SOCIAL MEDIA NOBODIES, THIS ISN'T A FUCKING REDPILL BOARD
STOP SHITTING UP THIS BOARD REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.11364889]

irl women love that book idk where u find this internet harpys, dfw is a pseud who writes chick lit

[Anonymous No.11364900]

In your heart you know it's true

[Anonymous No.11364915]

>>11364877
based and checked

[Anonymous No.11364920]

>>11364883

accurate 10/10

[Anonymous No.11364922]

This is now a Jezebel thread.

[Anonymous No.11364925]

>>11364889
this

[Anonymous No.11364929]

>>11364814
>"reads" audio books
>thinks her opinions are of any value whatsoever

[Anonymous No.11364934]

>>11364814
>dfw
>libertarian

[Anonymous No.11364941]

DFW is a misogynist hack, deal with it nerds.

[Anonymous No.11364960]

>>11364929
You do realize Socrates didn't sit around reading on a Kindle right?

[Anonymous No.11364965]

>>11364941
>DFW is a misogynist hack
implying that's something bad

[Anonymous No.11364984]

>>11364965
this we fucking hate women here, they're inferior to us as white men of virtue

[Anonymous No.11365000]

If they actually read anything at all and had a single thought women would claim DFW as a feminist for his neuroticism alone. Not to mention his self-serving extraversion/phenomenal obsession. He was all but a woman.

>BOOK IS LONG BOOK EXPENSIVE LOL!!1

I hate women. Morons.

[Anonymous No.11365002]

>>11364879
Hi claude

[Anonymous No.11365051]

>>11364941
>misogynist
what is this? reddit?

[Anonymous No.11365068]

>>11364823
>hobbitspreading: when a hobbit feels thin (i.e. sort of stretched) like butter scraped over too much bread
we need to stop all this hobbitspreading

[Anonymous No.11365074]

>>11364941
this is obviously untrue
for a start he was friends (possibly more) with zadie smith. feminists don't tend to hang out with misogynists that much.
in fact she wrote a nice tribute to him on that subject
https://fivedials.com/fiction/zadie-smith/
of course infinite jest is still like 400 pages too long

[Anonymous No.11365081]

>>11365074
the character of feminism is changing so rapidly with every passing year that women who were considered "good feminists" less than a decade ago are now considered mansplainers and self-hating women by today's insane standards

[Anonymous No.11365083]

not even a feminist been dudes who be manspreading on the train are annoying as fuck, its liek they are too homophobic to cross their leg, when u put one leg on the other knee and shift your weight on one ass bone and it opens up a space for your nuts to hang, get over yourself you fat fuck

[Anonymous No.11365088]

>>11365074
>feminists don't tend to hang out with misogynists that much.
Feminists will jump on the alpha dick as fast as any woman.

[Anonymous No.11365094]

As a person who knows very little about DFW and has never read any of his books, why is this guy so reviled by certain groups of people? I've seen some of his interviews and he really doesn't strike me as a polarizing figure to be hated.

[Anonymous No.11365095]

>>11365083
I thought manspreading was just a meme and then I sat between two guys on an airplane who splayed out enough to take up like 25% of my space

[Anonymous No.11365106]

>>11365095
at least on a plane u got individual seats so u can be like yo bro wanna keep it between your armrests that your section dude, but on nyc subways there are just these long benches, so if a dude sits down and spreads out he can take up the space of 1.5 or 2 people easily but since there are no seat markers he can claim its "one seat", its usually dudes in suits in my experience, its like alpha chad business bros feel emasculated having to slam their legs shut squeezed between some french tourists and a puerto rican granny

[Anonymous No.11365108]

>>11365094
It's more about his fanbase, he said some weird shit about women in private at times but was mostly fine

[Anonymous No.11365119]

>>11365106
Learn how to use periods unless you want to sound like a nigger.

[Anonymous No.11365139]

>>11365119
>implying i dont want to sound like a nigger

[Anonymous No.11365145]

>>11364883
He's right you know

[Anonymous No.11365150]

>>11365083
some people sit like that because it hurt their nuts otherwise. women are so retarded

[Anonymous No.11365153]

>>11365150
if your flabby thighs are squishing ur nuts it might be a sign to lose weight

[Anonymous No.11365156]

>>11365153
t. balls like peanuts

[Anonymous No.11365185]

>>11365153
Say that to Godzilla too, fagette

[Anonymous No.11365238]

>>11365108
Is it something that can easily be perceived as misogynistic by females?

[Anonymous No.11365246]

/lit/ - every tweet with seven likes that triggered me

[Anonymous No.11365248]

Women vs Infinite Jest: A Fight for the Ages?

Seriously though, why do women hate it so much? I haven't read it

[Anonymous No.11365259]

To think you could be hitting twisties right now, /lit/

[Anonymous No.11365266]

>>11364814
Why did she randomly insert "libertarian" in there?

[Anonymous No.11365337]

*gives handbag it's own seat on the train*
fucking manspreaders

[Anonymous No.11365357]

>>11365238
It was something along the lines of "I think my purpose in life is to stick my dick in as many pussies as possible" so yeah

[Anonymous No.11365368]

>>11365185

Lol, good one

[Anonymous No.11365378]

>>11365357
that was obviously an attempt to be faux-deep by eluding to our natural reproductive instincts as the only thing not "socially constructed" etc. but his fanbase too brainlet to even get it

[Anonymous No.11365709]

>>11364889
As of recent, no. Davie's the emblem of everything wrong with Whiteness and Maleness and is the absolute focal point of misogyny in contemporary lit. Being that boy who tells you to read Infinite Jest is something to be embarrassed about and will make any socially conscious young woman cringe at the suggestion because you fit so neatly into one of the boxes made for you by mainstream feminism

https://www.metafilter.com/166387/Men-Recommend-David-Foster-Wallace-to-me
http://reductress.com/post/why-im-waiting-for-the-right-man-to-tell-me-to-read-infinite-jest/

[Anonymous No.11366048]

>>11364877
dubs of truth

[Anonymous No.11366074]

>>11364856
>why are women so stupid?

ftfy

[Anonymous No.11366134]

imagine dying and then woke nu-feminists shitting on your grave,
what a nightmare. this is a lesson to everyone to treat these garbage fake woke bitches like the trash they are while you’re still alive

[Anonymous No.11366293]

How could we as a society ever let women get this uppity? Unbelievable

[Anonymous No.11366300]

>>11366293
because low-t beta bugmen who made a lot of money in silicon valley and only have daughters want to keep their dynasties going but without having to fuck their wife enough to actually get a son

[Anonymous No.11366322]

>>11364797
Okay, this is epic.

[Anonymous No.11366325]

>>11365068
Kek

[Anonymous No.11366349]

>>11364823
based

[Anonymous No.11366357]

90% of the posts in this thread were made by me.

[Anonymous No.11366367]

>>11366357
wow that's a lot

[Anonymous No.11366368]

>>11365068
That was good, anon

[Anonymous No.11366372]

>>11364814
when did hipsters become libertarians? am i really that out of touch?

[Anonymous No.11366455]

>>11366293
Women are economically more valuable in the post-industrial world. Changes in the economy have necessitated these changes in gender relations.

[Anonymous No.11366472]

>>11364877
>marxist
>intellectual

[Anonymous No.11366475]

Why do they not like david? he's like one of the nicest authors to live. Maybe not Dr. Suess level but still.

[Anonymous No.11367088]

>>11364814
what does emotionally expensive mean?

[Anonymous No.11367191]

>>11366475
>one of the nicest authors to live
>stalks the children of his ex

nah mate he was a creep

[Anonymous No.11367199]

>>11366472
>murica

[Anonymous No.11367460]

I get it, they really hate söy prose for effete beta males, Chad would never read something like this and women hate all men whomst've are not Chad.

[Anonymous No.11367493]

>>11364883
womp womp

[Anonymous No.11367823]

Can we stop pretending IJ is good? Yes I finished it. It's not sincere whatsoever, it's just as detached and sarcastic as the rest of modern writing. DFW is self-indulgent and whine-y. I pray you guys will grow out of this phase.

[Anonymous No.11367831]

Is mansplaining just another word for pontificating?

[Anonymous No.11367873]

>>11364814

Was DFW libertarian enough to be insulted as one? Also, does she not realize she's a white hipster? but I guess she's a woman so that's all fine.

[Anonymous No.11367892]

>>11364883
Unironically this

[Anonymous No.11367906]

Do intelligent women exist?

[Anonymous No.11367912]

>>11365248
nah they love it

[Anonymous No.11367916]

>>11364883
Everyone who posted below this post should be killed. You guys don't even realize how low you are. Literal cockroaches. Plebeian mentality should be violently repressed.

[Anonymous No.11367951]

>>11367916
No U

[Anonymous No.11368805]

>>11364960
Do you realize the whole Plato argument against psychical books was because they lacked a figure with which to interact dialectically? Audiobooks not only don't offer that but further inconvenience comprehension; they are merely a tool for vapid and lazy people.

[Anonymous No.11369455]

>>11367912
> tfw no art hoe gf

[Anonymous No.11369732]

>>11367912
Wife material.

[Anonymous No.11369758]

>>11365139
We knew that the moment you took such a liberal position.

[Anonymous No.11369815]

>>11366372
No, no. You're not our of touch, friend. It's the Hipsters who are out of touch.

[Anonymous No.11369940]

>>11367912
Yeah, most of them seem to love it aside from the cherry picked images. It was basically the first YA novel

[Anonymous No.11370020]

>>11364797
It doesn't matter. I have no interest in IJ either way. Still, I doubt that IJ is a better example of male strength expression than Thus Spake Zarathustra, Call of the Wild, or quite nearly any of Rudyard Kipling's stories.

Actually, I think the man-spreading of books was written by a woman - Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. How will anyone top that? I can sincerely imagine John Galt spreading his tweed covered thighs so hard the seam nearly shreds as his gives Ayn's pontifical lecture near the end.

[Anonymous No.11370033]

>>11364797
It doesn't matter. I have no interest in IJ either way. Still, I doubt that IJ is a better example of male strength expression than Thus Spake Zarathustra, Call of the Wild, or quite nearly any of Rudyard Kipling's stories.

Actually, I think the man-spreading of books was written by a woman - Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged. How will anyone top that? I can sincerely imagine John Galt spreading his tweed covered thighs so hard the seam nearly shreds as he gives Ayn's pontifical lecture near the end.

[Anonymous No.11370173]

>>11364797
She's right.

[Anonymous No.11370223]

>>11364797
She ripped that off of a New Yorker cartoon that was published a few weeks back.

Somebody call her out for plagiarism

[Anonymous No.11370263]

>>11365081
>donates to free domain radio

[Anonymous No.11370288]

>>11365095
I was at a restaurant with my family and I was sat on a long bench type seat with my mum directly next to me and then a few people on the other side of her. It was mad cramped and I was getting claustrophobic or whatever so I managed to create some space to the other side of me (moving coats or something) and as soon as I moved into my freshly created space that fat bitch moved over into the half inch of breathing room I'd managed to create and was back in my shit. Naturally I was furious.

[Anonymous No.11370317]

>>11364883
>THIS ISN'T A FUCKING REDPILL BOARD
it is now bitch

[Anonymous No.11370324]

>>11370223
What the fuck is wrong with writing a long book, jesus fucking christ I hate being alive.

[Anonymous No.11370342]

>>11370324
I'm not upset about the comic, in fact it's quite a clever jab at DFW's work that any mature fan should be capable of appreciating in good humour.

However, people ripping off ideas from TNY in order to get likes is quite loathsome.

[Anonymous No.11370345]

>>11365074
900-page tangent-filled endnote-heavy fractal-structured maximalist hysterical realism dave/zadie slashfic FUCKING WHEN?

[Anonymous No.11370351]

>>11365357
how is this misogynistic?

[Anonymous No.11370365]

>>11365357
It's amazing that you've never just had a fun conversation with a bunch of dudes. To take something like this and make it an emblem of a person is fucking ludicrous.

[Anonymous No.11370368]

>>11367916
yeah well orwell didn't happen, congrats for huxley

[Anonymous No.11370377]

>>11365357
>fucking women is misogynistic
wtf I'm gay now

[Anonymous No.11370990]

>>11366472
Standards have gotten low and Marxism is retarded but, yes, it does require a great deal of study and knowledge to be an expert on Marxism.

[Anonymous No.11370999]

>>11365357
>beta wizard shocked that successful men talk about gettin the pussy when not in mixed company

[Anonymous No.11371613]

>>11370324
calm down autist it's a joke

[Anonymous No.11371660]

>>11364814
>>11364797
why are these millennial nobodies going after my boy David? is it because he is a white male? or because he is dead and can't defend himself? these women have absolutely no class, and probably no smarts. i fully expect a dim-witted "review" or whatever diatribe against IJ as seen through gender tinted glasses garbage either of these sub-average college students cough up.

[Anonymous No.11371677]

>>11371660
>is it because he's a white male?
Yes

[Anonymous No.11371685]

>>11365357
Have you fucking seen the shit women talk about to one another? Ever watched a female dominant movie or a movie written by women for women? Women are as bad or worse than men but just hide it well behind outrage

[Anonymous No.11371693]

>>11364797
what does this mean

that the majority of the book is balls?

[Anonymous No.11371703]

>>11371660
it's a meme among younger, american women who consider themselves literary (whether they write fiction or criticism or just read) that infinite jest has an undeserved reputation among men as the best book ever written, for which reason men are, supposedly, constantly recommending it to women all over the US even though almost nobody reads and almost nobody who reads has actually read IJ, much less recommended it to anyone or had it recommended to them. Cf. >>11365709 (and https://electricliterature.com/men-recommend-david-foster-wallace-to-me-7889a9dc6f03?gi=1bfeeffe4db5 and https://www.thecut.com/2015/08/david-foster-wallace-beloved-author-of-bros.html and try to count how many concrete instances of this actually happening are ever referred to, as compared to someone referring to it in an abstract sense).

[Anonymous No.11371784]

>>11370223
> War & Peace
> Anna Karenina
> The Brothers Karamazov
> Doctor Zhivago
> Les Miserables
> Don Quixote
> Middlemarch
> Ulysses
> "it jus literal manspread yuh yaaaas kween *snaps fingers* nothin personnel, you're a white male"

[Anonymous No.11371852]

>>11370223
Gas liberals and enslave their women already

[Anonymous No.11371870]

>>11366472
(You)

[Anonymous No.11372366]

>>11371784
Read I am Malala instead you shitlord, humanity needs to collectively purge itself of misogynisitc literature. The stories of strong women speaking truth to power is what's really important these days.

[Anonymous No.11373338]

>>11371784
Outliers don't make the rule...99% of long books are long for the sake of being long

[Anonymous No.11373345]

>>11372366
You misspelled Lean In

[Anonymous No.11373378]

>>11371784
>Middlemarch
>White male

Pick one.

[Anonymous No.11373541]

>>11373378
>george

[Anonymous No.11373545]

>>11373541
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Eliot

[Anonymous No.11373559]

>>11373545
i was merely pretending, laddie

[Anonymous No.11373571]

>>11373559
Sometimes I can't even tell anymore, mate

[Anonymous No.11373585]

someone reply to her calling her dumb

[Anonymous No.11373589]

>>11364797
Is it bad that I used to go here for serious literary and philosophical discussions but now I’m just amused by gossiping and memeing here?

[Anonymous No.11373602]

>>11367460
bullshit

[Anonymous No.11373628]

>>11365357
>”I think my purpose in life is to wrap my vagina around as many dicks as possible”
>YOU GO GURL YOU ARE SO SEXUALLY LIBERATED AND STRONK #STOPSLUTSHAMING #FUCKANGRYVIRGINMALES

>”I think my purpose in life is stick benis in vagina many times”
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE FUCKING MISOGYNISTIC DICKHEAD WOMEN ARE NOT JUST SEX OBJECTS THEY ARE PEOPEL WITH FEELINGS OMG HOW CAN U SAY THIS!!!!

If it’s fine to be a female whore, it’s also fine to be a manwhore, liking sex with women isn’t misogyny.

[Anonymous No.11374736]

On the one hand, feminists are shit. On the other, so are DFW's books.