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Can a female protagonist work, or is males unconscious sexism and females unconscious jealousy too great to overcome?

>> No.11295936

>>11295924
This place is turning into /r9k/

>> No.11295975

>>11295924
>Can a female protagonist work
Yes. Don’t be dumb please

>> No.11295982

>>11295924
>Can a female protagonist work
No. Don't be dumb please

>> No.11295986

Yes, they can. Other variables account for the correlation between female protagonists and poor quality

>> No.11295995

There's a QTDDTOT for a reason, invidiot.

>> No.11296008

>>11295995
Ugly dyke.

>> No.11296013

>>11295924
It will work if you write her using this method: start with a man, then remove all reason and accountability.

>> No.11296860

>>11295924
Why is that girl wearing metroid's suit?

>> No.11296866

Yes female protagonists can work, the issue is that a lot of authors either write men and then say they're women for easy credit, or they write realistic characters based on absolutely horrid women but end up praised because of the modern culture of feminist bias.

>> No.11296895

>>11295924
Hunger Games was a fresh franchise that worked fine with a female protagonist. Sexism might stop 1-5% of retards giving something with a female protagonist a try and the actions of the character will be judged more harshly but as long the writing is semi-decent, it won't be a big enough deal.

>> No.11296899

>>11296895
>Hunger Games was a fresh franchise
Dude it objectively was not, it was a Battle Royale knockoff from day 1

>> No.11296909

>>11296899
Majority of the Western audience didn't know of BR. Besides, the world building of HG made it different enough. Please don't make me defend this shit further.

>> No.11296915

>>11296909
Yeah there'd only been multiple western adaptations including a well-known western film knockoff

>> No.11296931

>>11296915
A R rated movie, almost ten years ago before HG, so the audience was too young to care. And it made 25m, so hardly a popular success.

>> No.11296938

>>11296931
So a franchise is "fresh" if it markets itself to an audience too young and dumb to see that it's a knockoff? Guess Hollywood better keep with the 80's rehash then.

>> No.11296963

>>11296938
>Guess Hollywood better keep with the 80's rehash then.
Their knock offs rely on people hearing about it from the nostalgia obsessed peers. BR was a niche for anyone but weebs.

Of course HG isn't "fresh" in a sense of bringing something truly new to the market but only very few stories are. It started without any brand recognition (say unlike the current Star Wars movie with female protagonist) and turned out pretty successful even before the movies.

>> No.11296984

>>11296938
>So a franchise is "fresh" if it markets itself to an audience too young and dumb to see that it's a knockoff?
You asked if a female MC could work, you got your answer. The fact the younger generations weren't aware of the fact a similar idea had already been explored only proves the point further.

>> No.11297139

>>11296008
She's not really that ugly. It's just a shame she's such a leftist.

>> No.11297159

>>11296984
>You asked if a female MC could work
No I didn't, why do you think I'm OP?

>>11296963
>Of course HG isn't "fresh" in a sense of bringing something truly new to the market but only very few stories are
Weak bullshit. Most media is not a direct adaptation of other media, it's specifically that the YA fiction genre and Hollywood in general have come to rely on that strategy.
>durr nothing is original Hunger Games might as well be fucking Ulysses

>> No.11297160

>>11295936
its just summer

>> No.11297186

>>11297139
kys you betafaggot.
Not only is the tripfag fugly but it is obnoxiously retarded as well, shitting up EVERY goddamn thread with its menopause-induced ramblings that are the archetype of trite, insipid bullshit.
That autist over in the Plato thread has contributed more content and insightful observations in the last 2 days than the tripfag has for however long it has been shitting up this board.
And filtering the faggot doesn't work because there are fags like you still reacting to it in every thread. I'm amazed how a single person can so palpably lower the quality of a whole board with their presence.

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>>11297139
>It's a shame she's such an advocate of freedom
<–Serious question.

>> No.11297238

>>11297206
Like what?
>Being a leftist always equates with advocating freedom
Believe what you want Butterfly. I can be annoyed by both you and the dumb anons who resort to attacks on your looks. I really have no ill will towards you at the present.

>> No.11297269

>>11297238
>Like what?
"Leftist" is just a word. You think you advocate freedom?

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FUCK YOU TRIPFAG
>>11295924
Anyway yes it can work, even if they're a fighter or something. As long as the story is good and doesn't bend over backwards to show ow cool and awesome she is then it's fine

>> No.11297289

>>11297269
"Freedom" is also just a word. Did you think only leftists have a monopoly on freedom?

>> No.11297321

>>11297289
Christianity, traditionalism, nationalism, legalism, capitalism, imperialism, colonialism, fascism. These are things the "rightwing" support and worship. They're failed systems and ideologies that have not delivered freedom.

Look into anarchism sometime.

>> No.11297327

>>11297321
The Right supports divine right monarchy, which is a good system.

'anarchism' is the only thing more laughably retarded than communism, the deluxe version of incoherent childish rebellion masquerading as political philosophy

>> No.11297336

>>11297327
brainlet please, your "good system" couldn't even stop a bunch of french peasants

>> No.11297345

>>11297327
Oh... So you need baby steps.
Read Thomas Paine

>> No.11297351

>>11297336
>the ancien regime in the late 18th century was a divine right monarchy
it was a dysfunctional sprawling bureaucracy of nobles and capitalists. The peasants were under absurdly oppressive conditions

>> No.11297357

>>11297345
The original poster who replied to you (me) is not the same as >>11297336 someone else just jumped onto the conversation. Monarchists are a bunch of sad pathetic LARPers.

>> No.11297373

>>11297357
monarchism at least actually existed, anarchism and communism are incoherent utopic nonsense.

There are monarchies of various sorts today

>> No.11297440

>>11297139
Pics?

>> No.11297828

>>11297440
Ask her and maybe she'll post some ;)

>> No.11297831

>>11295924
>Yawn

>> No.11297858

>>11297336
>it was totally a peasant revolt and not an ideological power struggle with the nobility divided
De Sade is my favorite example of the freedom you propose to the world.

>> No.11297863

>>11297357
Monarchism is the most longetive system of government known to man. After the tyranny of media ends, democracies will turn into dictatorships and eventually into monarchies.

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11297890

>>11297863
>Time goes backwards!
>There's no other direction it can go.

*Sigh*
5/10

>> No.11297905

>>11295924
Anyone can write any character if you know how to write. Proof is ayn rand, you'd think a woman could write female characters but she was terrible at it.

>> No.11297906

>>11295924
Of course not, that's why there has literally never been a female protag in literature ever.

>> No.11298375

>>11295924
>a female
Just have a dickgirl protagonist, like in your image.

>> No.11298378

>>11297890
Time runs in circles, even on the machines you listen to (clock/calendar/pms).

>> No.11298398

>>11297321
Correct me if I’m wrong, but when I think of these traits I think of the British Empire - and didn’t they end slavery?

>> No.11298416

>>11297321
>not left? obviously right?
Fuck
You
Cunt

>> No.11298528

>>11297906
not a female charachter in literature? are you sure you read books?
Oedipa Maas, Anna Karenina, Electra, Elisabeth Bennet, Scarlet O Hara, Alice, Holly Golightly, Natasha Rostova, Athena, Clarice Starling to name a few of the top of my head....

>> No.11299052

>>11296895
Oh yeah, Hunger Games was terrible, but not because of the main character. In fact, I think Katniss was one of the better aspects of the novel

>> No.11299224

>>11296899
Not that anon but there's plenty of survival situation type stories with different core audiences. From what I've read, BR revolved around high school kids and geared towards the action genre. HG books are mainly psychological from the POV of a young protagonist. Both survival situations but carried out differently.

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>>11297186
I love you anon
I would let you be a tripsfag