You are NOT a Christian

[Anonymous No.11290298]

Is anyone else sick of philosophers and classicists pretending to be real Christians because they happen to well-read? The Scriptures are very clear as to what kind of being God is, and they are very what being a Christian means. You have read the Bible and consider Jesus to be an enlightened teacher and agree with Biblical ethics? Great, that doesn't make you a Christian.

Stop ascribing properties you picked up reading Plato, Aristotle, Hindu Scriptures, etc. to the Christian God. Dante is not canon, neither is Milton.

[Anonymous No.11290319]

>>11290298
Honestly i'm jut tired of people saying they're christian on 4chan. we all know you aren't and are just shitposting. And even if you were christian you would stay away from this site like it were a satanic ruin with pictures of jesus being sodomized.This place is the exact opposite of christian values .

[Anonymous No.11290866]

Be careful you guys don't slip the other way and become militant atheists again.
I was raised in the faith and keep to it, but I don't know how to feel that it's become the newest fashion trend (on 4chan, at least. It seems fairly absent outside the internet).
I am trying to learn more about the relevant theology and I'm a super conservative guy, how do you know when you've stopped being a Christian and became a /pol/ tier "Cultural Christian".

[Anonymous No.11290883]

>>11290298
>t. theology brainlet.

Come at me bro. My faith in Christ is real, while you're just a deus vulting retard.

[Anonymous No.11290889]

>>11290298
I agree with you on the first part, but not the second.
God is Truth; any truth about God, wherever it may come from, may be useful for our spiritual and intellectual growth. It was what all the church fathers and doctors of the Church did. I see how wrongfully assigning God a property which is false can lead people astray, but we shouldn't retreat into an equally wrongful fideism.

[Anonymous No.11290917]

This is the perversion of iconography that's happening over at the /pol/ Christian thread right now.

[Anonymous No.11290943]

>>11290917
How is it possible to reconcile the teachings of Christ with "hang all niggers, gas the kikes, race war now?" I'm a lapsed Catholic but the mental gymnastics that happen in that place are horrifying.

[Anonymous No.11290953]

>>11290889
>It was what all the church fathers and doctors of the Church did
What's your point? Even Paul wasn't a proper Christian. The only books in the New Testament truly worth meditating on are the Four Gospels. Anything not from Jesus himself is trash and is the reason Christianity is in such a shameful state today.

[Anonymous No.11290957]

>>11290943
Not like /pol/aks wouldn't be the first. Religion was justified to rape and pillage Americas. The trick is picking and choosing interpretations.

[Anonymous No.11290962]

>>11290943
The problem is that the left wants to turn Christ into a meek, materialist genderqueer and the right wants to turn him into a literal warlord.
I see godlessness all around me in the modern world and I want to fix it, but I don't like the idea that I'm perverting his teachings by doing so. At the very least, I know I'm in bad company in my endeavour.

[Anonymous No.11290970]

>>11290298
non-Christian here

Christianity is a bastardization of Biblical teachings and relies too heavily on texts as their source of wisdom.

that is all

[Anonymous No.11290972]

How is it possible to reconcile the teachings of Christ with tax collectors and whores?

[Anonymous No.11291001]

>>11290943
They're not true Christians, they just enjoy the romanticism and aesthetic that entails it. This includes the ideal of civilisation that they wank over. It's all just a meme to them; a vehicle to exercise their self-mastubatory contrarianness.

[Anonymous No.11291033]

Christian pretension is a side-effect of the vogue return to traditionalism.
God didn't die when Nietzche said so, he died when the standards for Christian chauvinism went out the window to be replaced with secular political power (read: the 1960s)

[Anonymous No.11291036]

>>11291001
The problem is that they're right in some aspects. These are some unholy times we live in, but you can't preach against it because the /pol/ guys have slipped all that rancid rhetoric into the idea of being a Christian.

[Anonymous No.11291067]

>>11291036
>you can't preach against it
You're not a preacher, anon. No preachers are going to preach against it beyond WBC types because they hold a necessarily banal and secularly-motivated understanding of both Scripture and their own religious calling. The only true religious relationship with God is a private one just as the Apostles held private communion with Jesus.

[Anonymous No.11291075]

>>11291036
>These are some unholy times we live in
Oh absolutely, but I don't think the vitriol that has become a staple of /pol/ is the solution. A more stoic approach is needed. After all, ancient Greece is a model society for them. Be the change you want to see in the world, no?

[Anonymous No.11291080]

>>11290917
>>11290943
>>11290957
>>11290962
>>11291001
>>11291036
>>11291067
>>11291075
How about you faggots fuck off back to /pol/? Why do you always ruin /lit/ threads with your bullshit?

[Anonymous No.11291082]

>>11291033
Only 90s kids understand this.

[Anonymous No.11291088]

>>11291067
>The only true religious relationship with God is a private one
What about the Christian mission then?

[Anonymous No.11291090]

im not arguing for pol style Christianity, but are you guys really denying that almost every aspect of the Catholic church, and99% of Protestant churches, has been infiltrated by Leftism?

I mean the bible says things like 'women have to submit to men'. There is absolutely no ambiguity in that statement, but where are you going to find a pastor who actually says that?

[Anonymous No.11291093]

>>11290319
fpbp

[Anonymous No.11291095]

>>11291088
Jesus said to spread the word, never to found a church and call anyone who doesn't join it a heretic.

[Anonymous No.11291102]

>>11291067
Washing your hands of the world and seeking a private relationship with Christ is selfish. You have a duty to every soul of the world, their salvation is on your hands too.

[Anonymous No.11291107]

>>11291090
Where are you going to find a pastor who actually says you should give up your material possessions?

[Anonymous No.11291116]

>>11291107
also a valid point. following the actual bible would be extremely radical in a lot of different ways

[Anonymous No.11291118]

>>11290866
Define “militant atheists”. I don’t consider voicing your opinion on the Internet in a respectful manner as being “militant”. But I can’t count the times I’ve seen an Anon making a thread questioning Christianity without even using insults or condescending speech and reactionary posters reply with stuff like “cringe”, “edgy” or the oh-so-classic “retard”.
You don’t seem very Christian to me when the only way for you to refute dissenting opinion are ad hominems. A Christian utterly convinced of his faith would have something other to propose than regurgitated insults. It honestly just makes them look insecure.
Also, if they’d really believe the Bible to be the inspired word of God, they’d actually do what it says. However, most people I’ve seen defending Christianity of 4chan are some of the most hateful individuals I’ve ever had the displeasure of coming across. What happened to “if you can’t love your brother, who you can see, you can’t love God, who you can’t see”? (1 John 4:20) Also, Jesus wouldn’t want you to be disrespectful or insult others, calling someone a fool could make you liable to hell. (Matthew 5:22) As Christian, one is expected to rise above such base instincts.
Let’s be very clear about this: they are not Christians. If they were, they would try to emulate Jesus and the holy ones and follow their example. Jesus himself said “you shall recognize them by their fruits”. (Matthew 7:16) Indeed. They’re what I like to call “Internet Christians”: people who consider themselves Christian because of the fedora memes, the fact that Christianity is counterculture nowadays and because it makes them feel special. They are not followers of Christ, they are not believers, they’re just insecure, attention-seeking contrarians.

[Anonymous No.11291124]

>>11290943
it’s pretty easy actually
>do whatever you want
>call it Christian
>call anyone who disagrees with you a faggot heretic etc.
they’ve been doing it for millennia

[Anonymous No.11291151]

>>11291124
It’s actually the easiest thing in the world.

[Anonymous No.11291168]

>>11291116
Even if one would try to, there are quite a few contradictions that'd make it impossible, so the idea to focus on the main messages isn't that misguided and the agreement of what the main messages are is kinda a work in progress. Treating bitches and fags as people might be not 99% by the rules but that approach helps the church to remain somewhat relevant, which doesn't sound too appealing for leftists who'd want religions gone.

[Anonymous No.11291170]

>>11291118
not OP but literally think about it for half a second, ya big dummy.

loud-talking atheists have just as much proof for God's non-existence as the faithful they ridicule. they're a joke to anyone with a brain. also i'd like to see any of them denouncing Allah or Muhammad (PBUH). not gonna happen though, because they're cowards as well as brainlets.

[Anonymous No.11291179]

>>11291170
Most of them are white kids from the West, why the fuck would they care about some pedo from the desert any more than about Thor?

[Anonymous No.11291192]

>>11291170
A lot of them actually do denounce allah and Mohammad. They just criticize Christianity more because Christianity and atheism are both prevalent in the west

[Anonymous No.11291200]

>>11291179
Because they were raised in the Christian faith and have a passable knowledge of the relevant theology.
Please don't insult Christ like that, if nothing else, it's only discrediting yourself by making you seem emotionally invested.

[Anonymous No.11291231]

>>11291200
B-but I am a rational sceptic, mum. I don't do emotional investment.

[Anonymous No.11291243]

>>11291088
The Mission was given to the Apostles with blessing and inspiration from God in a physical and visible way, the Tongues of Fire.
Going to some junk ideology school and spouting shit to mislead the masses into buying DVDs isn't Christian.

[Anonymous No.11291253]

>>11291168
the relations between men and women are really not an edge case that can go either way though, they are of central importance to how a society functions.

I dont think leftists care about leftist-aligned churches, I mean modern Leftism came in large part from Unitarians and the like.

[Anonymous No.11291262]

>being a Christian is good

[Anonymous No.11291270]

>>11291170
>not OP but literally think about it for half a second, ya big dummy.
I did. What sentence specifically of what I wrote made you go nuts? What sentence do you consider factually wrong?

Sorry, but if you can’t get your point across without resorting to some cut-and-dry, overused insults, you’re not worthy of getting into a discussion with. Either write like the grown-up you (hopefully) are or expect me to just ignore you.

>loud-talking atheists have just as much proof for God's non-existence as the faithful they ridicule.
How about YOU think about that for half a second? Are you even aware of the implications for what you say? You don’t have to prove the non-existence of something, you have to prove it’s existence. Without that burden of proof, I could just claim that the Universe was actually created by the Flying Spaghetti Monster just five minutes ago, along with all our memories, archeological evidence, ANY evidence really and I could just say: “Go ahead and disprove it, otherwise it’s true”. That’s not how it works and certainly not how it SHOULD work.

Again, either engage respectfully with the subject at hand or I’ll assume you just want to troll and not bother with replying. You then may claim you “won” the argument, if it makes you feel better.

[Anonymous No.11291285]

>>11291253
>they are of central importance to how a society functions
What function exactly? Why would a more equal society be less kind to the needy or stop worshiping God or not spread the word?

[Anonymous No.11291295]

>>11291262
Alpha as fuck. No wonder insecure manchildren are triggered.

[Anonymous No.11291304]

>>11291285
well to be perfectly honest an equal society does not seem capable of having enough children to reproduce the next generation, and causes all sorts of social malaise. Religion in its social engineering capacity was well aware of this.

You're right of course that men and women can simply become monks and serve God in their way, there is no contradiction there.

[Anonymous No.11291308]

>>11290962
>The problem is that the left wants to turn Christ into a meek, materialist genderqueer and the right wants to turn him into a literal warlord
both based

[Anonymous No.11291320]

>>11291262
It actually takes a lot of emotional strength and humility to do what the Pope does. When you respond to hate with love, you’re showing an incredible amount of self-control since you’re fighting against your innate instincts. Responding to hate with hate is the “normal”, predictably human thing to do. Anybody can do that.

[Anonymous No.11291325]

>>11291295
Blindly following the neoliberal ideology is very "alpha", indeed.
Can't wait till faggots get married at the Church, should be any day at this rate.

[Anonymous No.11291326]

>>11291304
Collapsing birth rates are not an issue inherent to egalitarianism, it's an issue that stems from Bourgeoise postmodern ideology or other anti-social belief systems.

[Anonymous No.11291328]

>>11291320
the Pope shows typical leftist outbursts against like climate change deniers and whoever else. I dont see any restraint on those issues

[Anonymous No.11291341]

>>11291304
>an equal society does not seem capable of having enough children to reproduce the next generation
Seems to be more related to economics. For poorfags children are basically a pension fund while once you make enough money, children become a drain on your resources and quite a luxury, though obviously still depends on the politics. The birth rates in the West went down way before attempts at equality. And relatively sexist but wealthy countries like Japan or Korea aren't exactly having a baby boom.

[Anonymous No.11291348]

>>11291328
Personal feelings and wellbeing of the whole fucking world are different things.

[Anonymous No.11291354]

>>11291170
>loud-talking atheists have just as much proof for God's non-existence as the faithful they ridicule.
He has never heard of “quid gratis asseritur, gratis negatur”. Literally name me one thing we know to be true without us having any evidence at all.

[Anonymous No.11291355]

>>11291326
well you and i are going to disagree about that one. I think birth rates are directly a function of how much power women have. there is one exception which is Israel, but I think Israel is a lot more patriarchal than most people think. The emancipation of women was also something that happened alongside the rise of the bourgeoisie.

Some cultures also dont fit either of these stereotypes, like there's no way to call African harem cultures patriarchal or matriarchal, they are just their own thing.

[Anonymous No.11291360]

>>11291320
>it takes a lot of strength to completely back down on issues
When you kill your enemies they win, too

[Anonymous No.11291365]

>>11291355
How do you explain Japan, Japan is extremely chauvinist if not directly mysogynist (and I do think there's room for a distinction) but it's still experiencing collapsing birth rates.

[Anonymous No.11291367]

>>11291348
it shows he doesnt believe in the principle when it actually matters. African migrants dont actually really matter one way or the other

[Anonymous No.11291368]

>>11291320
>Responding to hate with hate is the “normal”, predictably human thing to do. Anybody can do that.
>""hate""
Even just saying you want to preserve an ethnic identity will literally get you ostracized in a good part of the West. You'll get called a nazi, lose your job etc.
Very few people can do that. Sucking nigger dicks is way easier.

So no, the Pope is doing what's socially the most acceptable right now. He's a pussy.

[Anonymous No.11291375]

>>11291365
Also worth pointing out that the Western social uprising of women came about on a wave of postmodern, anti-traditional and socially-deconstructionist ideology.

[Anonymous No.11291381]

>>11291270
>he didn't start with the Greeks
>he never knew about the most noble Form, that which we want for itself alone
>he doesn't know how it makes eudaimonia
>he dismisses historical evidence entirely, then calls *me* unserious
Read Plato, then Plotinus, then Aquinas. You're welcome.

>Flying Spaghetti Monster
how much grace has the FSM brought into the world? and if you're merely plugging in the name Flying Spaghetti Monster into God's position on the mercy seat, you realize you have changed nothing at all and are yourself a theist?

[Anonymous No.11291382]

>>11291328
>typical leftist outbursts
By which you mean making some statements who hurt Republicans’ feeling. Meanwhile “typical right wing outbursts” involve physical violence and discrimination, for example Charlottesville.

[Anonymous No.11291388]

>>11291355
Even relatively secular woman in Israel are into the baby making due the fear-mongering about Palestinians. Having less rights for females CAN affect it but there are bigger factors.

[Anonymous No.11291390]

>>11291365
Women work in Japan and are not just married off the way they are in Afghanistan or wherever.

When women have freedom they very reasonably decline to spend the best years of their lives as baby factories to men they arent even attracted to.

[Anonymous No.11291393]

>>11291382
Well yes of course that's what I mean by typical leftist outbursts, im showing that he's leftist aligned, and his mercy doesnt extend to the people leftists hate.

[Anonymous No.11291405]

>>11291320
>tfw to mature too defend myself

[Anonymous No.11291406]

>>11291388
Israel is very unique. If there were more than one Western country with high birth rates we could try to find trends, but being Jews they are just so firmly their own thing.

But you're right that under some conditions women with freedom will choose to have lots of children. So i retract or at least alter my statement

[Anonymous No.11291412]

>>11291368
>”Even just saying you want to preserve an ethnic identity will literally get you ostracized in a good part of the West.”
>literally uses a hurtful racial slur a few sentences later
You’re not being honest. People like you don’t “just say you want to preserve an ethnic identity.” You go way beyond that.

Your picture of rightwingers as poor victims of leftist oppression is unwarranted.

[Anonymous No.11291413]

>>11290298
>The Scriptures are very clear as to what kind of being God is
In my opinion God is best thought of in the context of a King. The King does what the King wants. He takes what He wants too. If you challenge that motherfucker you better have a good reason.
>>11291382
>Meanwhile “typical right wing outbursts” involve physical violence and discrimination, for example Charlottesville.
What was that you were saying? I can't hear you over the burning pharmacy and multiple gunshot victims who died in the rioting.

[Anonymous No.11291417]

>>11290943
yikes

[Anonymous No.11291424]

>>11291413
The bible literally couldn't make it clearer that God is best thought of in the context of a father.

[Anonymous No.11291425]

>>11291390
>very reasonably
According to what? The very society which empowers them necessarily programs them to think of pursuits besides family life as being more important. In the West that's in the form of feminist conditioning, in Japan its in the form of sexual repression.
There's little reason to believe women make this choice in a vaccuum.

[Anonymous No.11291438]

>>11291412
>You go way beyond that.
Really? Where exactly do you think I go? I have no problem stating my positions on a fucking anonymous board.

>Your picture of rightwingers as poor victims of leftist oppression is unwarranted.
I never mentioned rightwingers or leftists, just some facts about people who get ostracized.
It's mostly neoliberal elites who push this, btw, not leftists. The same neoliberal elites who the nigger-dick-sucking Pope blindly follows.

[Anonymous No.11291477]

>>11291381
I see you still haven’t named one sentence in my original post that is incorrect according to you.

You know what’s funny? I, as a supposed atheist (even though I’m not) quoted the Bible three times in my original post. The amount you, as a “Christian”, have quoted the Bible? Zero.
Instead, you bring up names like Plato, Plotinus and Augustine. “Read them” you say. No. Do you know why? Because a Christian doesn’t need to read anything other than the Bible, which he considers to be the ONLY inspired truth revealed by God. (Revelations 22:18)

>and if you're merely plugging in the name Flying Spaghetti Monster into God's position on the mercy seat, you realize you have changed nothing at all and are yourself a theist?
You’d have a point if the aim of the Christians was just to prove the existence of *a* God, but they want to prove the existence of the Judeo-Christian God in particular. You also seem to assume that every theistic God is the same. YHWH and the Flying Spaghetti Monster are not mutually interchangeable. As it stands, my theory of the Flying Spaghetti Monsters is still valid unless you can prove that it’s false.

[Anonymous No.11291480]

>>11291405
Unless they guy in the pic was actually attacking the Pope, your comment makes zero sense.

[Anonymous No.11291493]

>>11291480
>just be a boomer individualist, bro, you're not related to anyone

[Anonymous No.11291516]

>>11291477
Not the guy you replied to, but even the early church fathers knew the bible was complex enough to warrant comparative reading with other philosophies to synthesize some consistent worldview.

[Anonymous No.11291526]

>>11290298
Why don't you tell us what you think the Christian God is, OP?

[Anonymous No.11291527]

>>11291493
>implying believing in individual responsibility and thought is wrong
You people are especially funny. You say individualism is bad and want society to be more collectivist, yet at the same time you complain about being “oppressed” by liberal institutions that are legitimate by law. Bet you wouldn’t like a collectivist society if it happens to be a liberal one.

[Anonymous No.11291540]

>>11291516
There’s no need to “synthesize some consistent worldview”. The Bible already has a consistent worldview, at least, I’d expect so from the Book which is considered to be the literal word of the most powerful being in existence.

[Anonymous No.11291544]

>>11291477
The hubris on you is just incredible, anon. Aquinas quotes Aristotle. Augustine quotes Plotinus. The theology of the Church fathers, the apostles, and the Thomist arguments for God are *absolutely* informed by the Greeks. Do you even know anything at all about the apostle Paul?

>quotes Scripture
>argues for a Flying Spaghetti Monster instead of the Holy Trinity

Enjoy your lake of fire suffering. 9/10 bait made me reply.

[Anonymous No.11291551]

>>11291527
I'm a liberal, but I think welcoming negroes in your society is retarded.

[Anonymous No.11291557]

>>11291526
Not OP, but I consider God to be the personification of love. The Bible itself literally says “God is love”. (1 John 4:8) Not “has”. “Is”.

[Anonymous No.11291564]

>>11291551
>I am a nazi but I don't believe we should have nations

[Anonymous No.11291573]

>>11291118
>Define “militant atheists”.
(You), judging by the rest of this post
he didn't call anyone a militant atheist, he just said be careful not to be one

[Anonymous No.11291582]

>>11291564
>nazi
No, I don't want to invade Poland or set up concentration camps. I would still prefer not to have negroes as my neighbors, though.

[Anonymous No.11291593]

>>11291544
>muh Aquinas
>muh Augustine
>muh Aristotle
>muh Plotinus
None of the person you mentioned is above the Bible. None of those person is above the inspired word of God himself.

I don’t believe in the Spaghetti Monster, are you being deliberately dull? I said that according to your logic one would have to prove his non-existence or it is considered to be true.

You just judged a person worthy of hellfire. Not very Christian, especially since Jesus said that only God can judge people and explicitly told his disciples “judge not so that you may not be judged.”

You still haven’t even shown ONE sentence of my original post which you consider to be wrong. Don’t project. You’re the one who’s baiting.

[Anonymous No.11291596]

>>11291573
The entire term is a pathetic attempt at discrediting opposing views. Unless there was a group hunting for religious people or at least cyber-bullied them online, there is no excuse to use it. Some fatass with a fedora making fun of Jesus isn't militant by any sane definition.

[Anonymous No.11291599]

>>11291551
Then you’re not a liberal.

[Anonymous No.11291604]

>>11291582
there is no need to be ashamed anon, wanting to invade poland is a normal european desire, to build a country with zero geographic defenses is unironically asking for it, the polish soul is the soul of a drunk thot in a bikini at a frat party

[Anonymous No.11291605]

>>11291582
Funny how you read the comment THAT way. So what exactly makes you think that you're a liberal if you clearly don't have liberal values?

[Anonymous No.11291608]

>>11291599
the actual people who invented liberalism mostly did not want negros in their country

[Anonymous No.11291611]

>>11291573
Except I’m not an atheist. Just someone who’s fed up with fake Christians. Not all Christians, make no mistake. Fake Christians in particular.

[Anonymous No.11291618]

>>11291608
Sources for this other than your ass?

[Anonymous No.11291621]

>>11291593
>I am smarter than everyone: the post

>Mattew 7:3-5
>And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
>Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
>Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

One day you'll come back to the true faith, anon. And the Church will welcome you with open arms. Godspeed.

[Anonymous No.11291627]

>>11291573
>he didn't call anyone a militant atheist
Never said that he did. Literally all I asked of him in particular was just clarification.
Triggered much?

[Anonymous No.11291636]

>>11291618
Mill explicitly said his idea of a nation had to be racially homogenous

in general it is very hard to find anyone before 1900 who isnt racist against Africans

[Anonymous No.11291668]

>>11291621
>I am smarter than everyone: the post
No. God is smarter than anyone else. I never thought to be smarter than you.

>Mattew 7:3-5
>And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
>Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
>Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
I see the irony is lost on you.

You can summarize everything I said with: “The Word of God himself has infinitely more authority and wisdom than that of any other human being.” How does this equate to me thinking I’m smarter than everyone?
Also, I never accused you of something I myself have done.

Again, you still can’t provide one sentence from my original post that you think is inaccurate. That’s literally all you have to do. This is the last time I’m asking for this. If you still won’t do it, I’m done with this conversation. Tell your friends you “won” or whatever it is that makes you sleep at night.

[Anonymous No.11291673]

>>11291636
Mill came after the founding of the USA.

[Anonymous No.11291686]

>>11291593
This is why Sola Scriptura is retarded

[Anonymous No.11291705]

>>11291686
Sola Scriptura is only retarded if you unironically think that the philosophical thoughts of imperfect human beings are needed to clarify even some minor aspects of the literal Word of God. I’d even argue that thinking this way amounts to blasphemy.

[Anonymous No.11291715]

>>11291705
The bible was written by humans though, and collected and standardised by the temple authority and church councils.

[Anonymous No.11291722]

>>11291705
>all philosophy is blasphemy
>muh BIBLE which I don't even understand most the time
what denomination are you, again, anon? some kind of inbred Baptist, right?

[Anonymous No.11291727]

>>11291686
>”Sola Scriptura is retarded because it would deauthoritze Aquinas, Greek pagan philosophers and that hurts my fee-fees.”
Only the Bible is the inspired and revealed Word of the Creator. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Anonymous No.11291729]

>>11291170
you can't prove a negative retard

[Anonymous No.11291733]

>>11291722
Care to tell me what things in particular I don’t understand?

[Anonymous No.11291736]

>>11290298
>digital art crusader pic
*snap*
Yep. This ones going in my cringe compilation.

[Anonymous No.11291740]

>>11291722
Also,
>All philosophy is blasphemy
Literally a straw man.

[Anonymous No.11291744]

>>11291733
Care to tell me your denomination?

>>11291740
Literally what you said. If it ain't the word of god it ain't shit.

[Anonymous No.11291746]

>>11291715
It was put down in scripture by humans, but inspired by God. Kind of like when a boss dictates what to write to his secretary. Sure, she penned it, but the word are her boss’s.

[Anonymous No.11291750]

>>11291033
>the 1960s
Retard. Gradual process well underway (near completion) in Nietzsche’s time... early 20th Century Christianity is at its most bourgeois and pathetic...

[Anonymous No.11291756]

>>11291480
>country gets invaded
>but he's not attacking ME personally it's just fine lmao
t. 22 year old boomer

[Anonymous No.11291768]

>>11291744
>Literally what you said. If it ain't the word of god it ain't shit.
No. I said that the Word of God is more authoritative than any words coming from mere humans. Do you seriously deny this?

I don’t see how telling you my denomination is needed for you to show which parts of the Bible I misunderstood.

[Anonymous No.11291770]

>>11291756
>people flee from circumstances country X created into country X
>DEM NEGROS BE INVADIN' US

[Anonymous No.11291772]

>>11291768
non-denominational "i can read the bible for myself" protestant-derived heretic detected

*klaxon noises*

[Anonymous No.11291773]

>>11291756
>a few immigrants coming to your country getting attention from the women who rejected you counts as invasion
t. bitter incel

[Anonymous No.11291775]

>>11291527
>haha dude you like watching tv but i bet you wouldn't like a tv show about professional dogfucking lmao i bet you feel silly and hypocritical now huh?
did you think you were being clever?

[Anonymous No.11291778]

>>11291770
>>people flee from circumstances country X created into country X
>thinking this is an accurate analysis of the migrant crisis
you cannot be serious. The africans ruined all their own countries, we left them with functioning everything and they destroyed it

[Anonymous No.11291780]

>>11291770
migrants aren't "fleeing" anything, they're there for the gibs
>>11291773
ebin projection dude XD

[Anonymous No.11291781]

>>11291772
Do you actually have something to show where I misunderstood the Bible or not? It’s all you have to do.
If not, I suggest you stop embarrassing yourself.

[Anonymous No.11291788]

>>11291775
Literally the most retarded analogy. Actually put more effort next time. Also, the Day of the Rope will never arrive. You better come to terms with that now.

[Anonymous No.11291793]

>>11291788
more effort than you put in i'm afraid. nice dubs btw :^)

[Anonymous No.11291794]

>>11291781
They should have never gave you plague-rats printing presses

[Anonymous No.11291795]

>>11291780
>”no u”
>”hurr durr I’m so smart”
droolingbrainletwojak.png

[Anonymous No.11291801]

>>11291795
based

[Anonymous No.11291804]

>>11290953
This is embarrassing. The New Testament was put together by the early Church. If you believe that only what Christ says in the Gospels is worthy of consideration, you are, though you may not want it, putting faith in those you call "improper Christians", both the evangelists and the other apostles. Unless only you are the only real Christian.

[Anonymous No.11291806]

>some brainlet who at best skimmed some Wikipedia articles on Plato (irrelevantly namedrops eudamonia) and Christian scholasticism telling people they’re going to hell
>some faggot actually replying to him repeatedly mentioning the Flying Spaghetti Monster

[Anonymous No.11291809]

>>11291794
I see. You just aren’t able to, I guess. Anyway, it was fun. (It wasn’t)

[Anonymous No.11291820]

>>11291809
Your ancestors literally had fleas.

[Anonymous No.11291821]

>>11291806
>some faggot actually replying to him repeatedly mentioning the Flying Spaghetti Monster
I used the FSM in the hope that he’d understand that the burden of proof is one the one who make a claim.

I don’t see you contributing anything to this thread. Another quality frogpost.

[Anonymous No.11291833]

What a shit thread. OP and non-denominational anon are just as much a Christian larper as any anon here. So disappoint.

[Anonymous No.11291847]

>>11291821
You should have known he would instantly disregard anything you said at the slightest whiff of any nu atheist reddit stench. His sort are very eager to pounce on any offence (aesthetic, moral or tribal) to ignore any point you have to make. They will hold it against you forever. And, to be fair, rejecting the FSM as a mark of (dreadfully) pseudointellectual snobbery is completely warranted...

[Anonymous No.11291856]

>>11291833
>OP and non-denominational anon are just as much a Christian larper as any anon here. So disappoint.
We know it’s you who keep posting these. You can check the amount of posters at the bottom of the page, you know. Leave this thread. You’ve embarrassed yourself enough already.

[Anonymous No.11291869]

>>11291847
It was the first thing that came to my mind. Just replace “FMS” with “Invisible Magic Space Rhinoceros” if it makes feel more at ease.

[Anonymous No.11291873]

>>11291833
>OP and non-denominational anon are just as much a Christian larper as any anon here.
How did you come to that conclusion? What gave it off?

[Anonymous No.11291881]

>>11291869
>this post
So this is the power of contempt for philosophy, critical thinking, and theological deduction.

[Anonymous No.11291917]

>>11290298
Really sorry you outed yourself as a heretic with subnormal IQ, op.

[Anonymous No.11291927]

>>11291869

[Anonymous No.11291931]

>>11291881
I was not replying to you. Who do you think you’re fooling? Okay, let’s forget the Flying Spaghetti Monster and be very clear: the burden of proof lies on the one making a claim, not on the one denying said claim. Otherwise, anyone could just make unfalsifyable stuff up and it would be considered true. There, better?

Here are the statements I made ITT that I consider important:

A) True Christians seek to emulate Jesus and follow the Bible.
B) Jesus expects his followers to be respectful and not insulting.
C) The Word of God holds more authority than the word of mere humans, since God is infinitely smarter than them.

Which of these statements do you consider to be incorrect?

[Anonymous No.11291955]

>>11291931
You yourself violated A and B, proving you don't respect C.

[Anonymous No.11291962]

>>11290319
I don't understand where these bizarre conceptions of who Christians are come from. There's an assumption that Christians ought to live in seclusion from society because they can't handle being around sinners and it's really dumb.

[Anonymous No.11291983]

>>11291955
Show me pics of my posts where I violated A & B.

Also, that wasn’t the question. The question was “which of these statements do you consider to be incorrect?”

[Anonymous No.11292000]

>>11291962
There’s a difference between “can't handle being around sinners” and knowingly go to place full of sin and anti-biblical stuff.

[Anonymous No.11292014]

>>11292000
And why exactly shouldn't Christians go to any place with sinners or expose themselves to anti-biblical stuff? How in the hell are Christians meant to evangelize people if we shouldn't contact sinners or debate their anti-biblical ideas?

[Anonymous No.11292028]

>>11292014
I get what you’re saying, but there are some cases where you just can’t apply this. Going into a brothel for instance. Or a Satanic website. Or a pornographical site. Or a site with hardened racists. Of course you have to “get your hands dirty” to evangelize the Gospel, but that shouldn’t mean you should dive headfirst into sin whenever you see it.

[Anonymous No.11292036]

>>11292028
4chan is not a brothel, a pornographic website, and it's not website for racists. It can be used for those purposes, but so can Youtube or any other forum. That doesn't mean we can't utilize Youtube.

[Anonymous No.11292047]

>>11290298
>>11291593
>>11291705
>>11291715
Well...

>Holy Trinity.
The word Trinity is not used once in the New Testament. There is not explicit teaching of the Trinity in the Bible, yet antitrinitarians get kicked out. That is tradition that lived in the church since day one.

>Praying to Jesus.
Do baptists pray to Jesus? Yes, they do. Now show me the verse in the Gospel where Jesus would command "Pray to me". Show me a single verse where apostles would pray to Jesus (not the Lord but explicitly Jesus) while they do not see him. Origen who lived in the third century did not pray to Jesus but church did not agree with him. Thus praying to Jesus is a tradition, very old one but still.

>Bible as a canon.
Who decided what books should and should not be part of the Bible? The ancient church fathers argued about that for three centuries. The fact that you have the Gospel in today's form is a product of church tradition.

[Anonymous No.11292073]

I don't think most people who idolize the imagery of christianity would actually like living in Europe back when it was Christian. It was very different to the Europe we have now, abstract art was the norm back then but most of these people would call abstract art degenerate and burn it for not being realistic, they would call the Book of Kells degenerate for not being a Bob Ross painting.

Judaism, at least from what I know about it, seems more peaceful than islam or christianity, but if you want a religion that promotes war and hatred over spiritual peace than whatever. Jews have traditions where they sprinkle wine on their food to symbolize God crying over his other lost flocks in conflicts like when he had to close the red sea on the egyptians because of his covenant. Christians don't have traditions like this, especially the brand of christianity that pollacks idolize in pure vanity

[Anonymous No.11292077]

>>11292047
First, I’m not OP.
Second, I never mentioned the Holy Trinity in my posts.
Third, I also never mentioned praying to Jesus, either.
And last, so Church Fathers found a consensus on which books are to be included in the Bible. How does this disprove sentence C? >>11291931

[Anonymous No.11292097]

>>11292047
Is your argument;
>Trinity is never mentioned in the Bible
>Yet, anti-trinitarians get kicked out
>This means church tradition is correct
That’s a really sloppy argument desk.

[Anonymous No.11292098]

>>11291593
>You just judged a person worthy of hellfire. Not very Christian, especially since Jesus said that only God can judge people and explicitly told his disciples “judge not so that you may not be judged.”
I doubt any interpretation of scripture has been more damaging to Christianity in the last few decades than this line. I hear people use it all the time to justify sinful lifestyles. His point was not “don’t judge”; it was “don’t be a hypocrite” and to hold each other to the same standards. Granted, God does indeed have final judgement. However, that doesn’t mean we can’t judge each other and disapprove of immoral actions.

[Anonymous No.11292114]

MOOOOOOOOOODS

[Anonymous No.11292123]

>>11292098
What did I do that was immoral or hypocritical? If I came off as a rude stand-off-ish person I sincerely apologize, though. It was never my intention and I have tried to never insult anyone and be as respectful as I could.

[Anonymous No.11292142]

>>11290298
haha funny knight and shield :~) not at all mega-malevolent

[Anonymous No.11292146]

>>11292036
4chan as a whole? No. You’re right. But /s/ is certainly pornographic and /pol/ full of hardened racists.

[Anonymous No.11292158]

>>11292146
Yes, and?

[Anonymous No.11292166]

>>11292158
As a Christian, there’s literally no scenario where one could go deliberately to /s/ and be excused, even if his intention was to evangelize.

[Anonymous No.11292170]

>>11292166
Wait a minute are we on /s/? How did I get here?

[Anonymous No.11292171]

>>11292166
You can block images though, I browse /lit/ as a textboard.

[Anonymous No.11292175]

>>11290298
>Stop ascribing properties you picked up reading Plato, Aristotle, Hindu Scriptures, etc. to the Christian God.
Someone should relay this to the early church.

[Anonymous No.11292180]

>>11292166
Citation needed, you lunatic. Where are you getting all these official pronouncements on appropriate Christian behavior? Jesus went to brothels. Mary magdeine was a prostitute. Just stfu with your retarded self.

>inb4 THE BIBLE
You don't understand the bible.

[Anonymous No.11292200]

>>11292180
Since when is it ok for Christians to watch pornography? Also,
>Jesus went to brothels.
Citation needed.

[Anonymous No.11292211]

>>11290962
>I see godlessness all around me in the modern world and I want to fix it
There isn't a fart noise flatulent enough to cushion the cringe. Put your endeavor back where others can't see, or take it to the Bronx for a rousing cheer.

[Anonymous No.11292212]

>>11292180
>Jesus went to brothels
The priests really kept that tradition alive, heh

[Anonymous No.11292267]

>>11290298
I am a Christian because I believe that god guides my path and that Jesus Christ was god incarnated, I am not the best christian, but I try to follow the teachings of Christ as close as I can.

>>11290319
American psychopath evangelist are not christians, they're lunatics using religion as a means to get themselves wealth. Look at literally everywhere else in the world BUT the US if you wanna know what a real Christian is.

[Anonymous No.11292290]

>>11291118
There are a lot of /pol/tards pretending to be Christians because of muh western civilization, but there's also a lot of them who go the complete opposite way because "muh kike on the stick'.

Militant atheism has died down but don't pretend it wasn't basically everywhere on the internet for ages, idk how old you are but even back in 2010 or 2011 you'd see people making "anti-religious" comments, videos and posts in every site that were basically "LOOOL LOOK AT THOSE DUMB RELIGIOUS PEOPLE, THEY THINK VIDYAGAEMS AND ANIME ARE THE DEVIL ALSO THEY'RE PEDOPHILES'. I was like 12 or 13 back then, I wasn't very religious, but even I could see how obnoxious it was, I'll give you that many """Christians""" nowadays can be just as obnoxious, which is not surprising since I bet many of them are the same exact assholes that were militant atheist in their edgy teenager years.

[Anonymous No.11292297]

>>11292180
>Jesus went to brothels.
and in like 3 replies we see the problem with Sola Scriptura lmao

[Anonymous No.11292321]

>>11290917
I am missing some ebin reference in the pic? I don't see anything really wrong with it.

>>11290957
Only happened in the North where all the religious crazies went, people so crazy that they were kicked out from the same island that went to war with the whole of Europe in order to cannonice their heresy. I'd say Hitler was right when he said that Christianity doesn't mesh well with Germanic culture.

[Anonymous No.11292328]

I've literally never, ever heard of anyone on the entire planet who thinks Dante or Milton's works are divinely inspired. Were you talking to some sort of schizophrenic in a mental hospital OP? That doesn't change the fact that they are fascinating homages to Christianity.

[Anonymous No.11292330]

>>11291033
If this were true then WW1 and 2 would have happened much later.

[Anonymous No.11292339]

>>11291080
Living in your brain rent free :^)

[Anonymous No.11292361]

>>11291270
>You don’t have to prove the non-existence of something, you have to prove its existence.

Short of god himself coming down to earth again it'd be pretty hard to prove or disprove his existence. There are a lot of things that could be used as evidence that atheist attribute to random chance.
Either way the vast majority of human knowledge is speculative, there's a reason most of science is based on "theories'.

[Anonymous No.11292386]

>>11291406
>If there were more than one Western country with high birth rates we could try to find trends

All of Latin America.

[Anonymous No.11292405]

>>11290319
>people still falling for this pasta
Apparently these people aren't pastafarists either.

[Anonymous No.11292409]

>>11292405
the fuck are you talking about? i typed this out

[Anonymous No.11292415]

>>11291493
There are no immigrants going to the pope's native country, if you wanted to argue that he should defend his homeland.

[Anonymous No.11292425]

>>11290883
Third post best post. OP and Sola scriptura anon need to stop making Christianity about himself.

[Anonymous No.11292434]

>>11290298
I find it funny how that Empire earth 2 Crusader pic is more famous than the game.

[Anonymous No.11292445]

>>11290943
Jews murdered Christ and have opposed the kingdom of God since. Their satanic Talmud teaches that we are mere animals to be owned and killed by jews.

They are the antichrist.

[Anonymous No.11292479]

>>11292211
Your life lacks sincerity.

[Anonymous No.11292509]

>>11290943
>how is it possible to reconcile these two opposing things
They don't. Literally if you go there they'll simply explain to you that /pol/ is not one person, and they're correct. The whole board argues with each other over the slightest things. It's very far from being an echo chamber with a solidified and agreed upon ideology upon even a single topic.

[Anonymous No.11292515]

>>11292028
Jesus was literally criticized for hanging out with prostitutes and thieves all the time. On the one hand, I certainly fall prey to non Christian behavior. On the other, there's nothing wrong with visiting any place as long as you live the way you should while there. I have had more and better Christian dialogue here than anywhere else.

[Anonymous No.11292525]

>>11292328
There are vast swaths of people who believe Satan's fall as described by Milton, and hell as described in the inferno are biblical. They're heavily integrated aspects of Christian mythology, and there are lots of lazy believers

[Anonymous No.11292550]

>>11292321
>drawn in the orthodox style (because they think eastern europe is based)
>drape Mary with celtic imagery (because they cant fathom a religion that isnt in the interests of their own ethnic group)
>oversexualize Mary (seriously, she looks like someone's fictionalized goth gf) to provide base appeal to Christianity

[Anonymous No.11292555]

>>11292550
>>drape Mary with celtic imagery

Probably not the best idea, tho roman Christianity has always been ok with incorporating local folklore.

Everything else isn't that bad IMO, it's not like old church art went out of it's way to make Mary ugly, or as if orthodox style paintings aren't in western churches from time to time.

[Anonymous No.11292614]

>>11290962
The left this, the left that. How about the Right?

[Anonymous No.11292635]

>>11292614
Hello you.

[Anonymous No.11292638]

>>11292515
>Jesus was literally criticized for hanging out with prostitutes and thieves all the time

You're disingenuous as fuck

[Anonymous No.11292666]

>>11291778
>we left them with functioning everything and they destroyed it
We literally didn't. You need an educated civil class to run a modern society, which the Euros didn't bother providing when they left Africa. The surprise wasn't that African countries deteriorated so quickly, the surprise was how literally anyone could've thought differently.

[Anonymous No.11292677]

>>11291367
>African migrants dont actually really matter one way or the other
And this is why you're not the Pope, bud. It takes a huge degree of personal intellectual, emotional and spiritual cultivation to become head of the world's largest religion. Putting someone on the throne of St. Peter who just thinks "all African migrants are dumb black people, lol" would never happen.

[Anonymous No.11292681]

>>11291413
>In my opinion God is best thought of in the context of a King. The King does what the King wants. He takes what He wants too. If you challenge that motherfucker you better have a good reason.
And this is why I'll never be a Christian. Such a violent an arbitrary conception of the Godhead leaves an awful taste in my mouth.

[Anonymous No.11292711]

>>11292681
He is an idiot, the bible clearly states otherwise. Tho it is true that god can kinda do whatever he wants, but there's nothing we could ever do about that.

[Anonymous No.11292718]

>>11291118
>You don’t seem very Christian to me when the only way for you to refute dissenting opinion are ad hominems
>The guy literally didn't personally attack anybody
You're a special kind of stupid aren't you?

[Anonymous No.11292722]

>>11292677
>Putting someone on the throne of St. Peter who just thinks "all African migrants are dumb black people, lol" would never happen.

happened many times, learn history.

[Anonymous No.11292732]

guys im bored what do i write about

[Anonymous No.11292735]

oops wrong website sorry guys

[Anonymous No.11292746]

>>11292732
Boyz who suck dick 4 satan

[Anonymous No.11292753]

>>11292479
My life is pragmatically ironic but strategically optimistic.

[Anonymous No.11292788]

>>11292732
Don't listen to him >>11292746

Write about good christian boys that suck dick.

[Anonymous No.11292806]

>>11290319
>I'm sick of sinful people saying they're Christian. We all know you're an atheist if you sin. An even if you were Christian you're not because you're doing this sinful thing

[Anonymous No.11292809]

>>11290298
Prodigal son, brother.

[Anonymous No.11292813]

>>11290319
You mean this one?

[Anonymous No.11292816]

>>11290917
me on the left

[Anonymous No.11292832]

>>11292321
>Only happened in the North
How the fuck do you think Central and South Americans got there? They're basically Spaniard and indigenous mullatos and all of them are catholics who keep their foreskins nice n long, eat some crackers with that cheese

[Anonymous No.11292845]

>>11292832
Spic here, stop regurgitating the British night time tale about how the evil spaniards killed and raped everyone in America and learn some real history.
The worst thing the spaniards did unless you count a few rogue people as the whole of Spain is come to america with their disease ridden asses and interact with the locals which automatically caused most of them to die.

Other than that the vast majority of Spanish colonization happened naturally as spaniards settled in and eventually started getting politically involved with the local kings and nobles, which led to war a few times just as it would in any other part of the world.

[Anonymous No.11292862]

>>11292845
based spic

[Anonymous No.11292874]

>>11292845
Then why are all the spics so fucking darkskinned? I mean I know it's sunny down there, but damn...

[Anonymous No.11292898]

>>11292874
There was a lot of mixing, but I doubt it was rape. I'm pretty sure I'd get banned if I posted the pics, but South American girls can get quite hot.

[Anonymous No.11292911]

>>11292874
Because Spaniards and natives fucked a lot as their societies integrated into each other either by force or just due to proximity.

Also in the case of the big urbanized american empires, 2 of them were forcefully conquered and 1 of them was incorporated into the spanish empire trough noble fucking, and the Spanish moved into the pre-existing cities rather than build their own far away.

>>11292898
There was probably some rape but i'm sure a handful of native girls fucking the new rich guys isn't such a big stretch of imagination.

Outside the cities latin america is still primarily native-american, the taint is because mestizos breed more mestizos and they eventually surpass the pure whites and pure natives.

[Anonymous No.11292941]

>>11292911
>Outside the cities latin america is still primarily native-american
I guess we should count out Brazil and its favela hell for this, but I guess.

[Anonymous No.11293184]

I’m definitely sick of the Christianity trend on 4chan. This site is full of people who, if they’re the same in real life as they are here, can talk for days about obscure points of Catholic doctrine, but have absolutely no real Christian feeling at all. You can tell this by looking at the political views they usually have. It’s obvious to anyone who is capable of being honest with themselves that the Christian view of life and the Fascist view of life are not at all compatible. I once saw a Christian thread on /pol/ where they tried to refute this exact argument by saying, ‘Where in Christian doctrine does it say we should love niggers?’ I can’t stand the ‘Deus Vult’ crowd.

[Anonymous No.11293237]

It sounds like nobody in this thread is willing to confront the incredible reality of the Resurrection, and what it means for mankind.

Jesus literally rose from the dead. He is everything he said he was. That should fill you with awe and wonder and terror.

[Anonymous No.11293245]

>>11290298
>ignoring the tradition of christian hermeneutics in favour of fundamentalism

Dropped

[Anonymous No.11293251]

>>11293184
Christianity is just the first step for kids who swallow the red pill. It's the first refuge from the insanity of the general nihilism in the society and the 'deus vult' memes have some anti-Islamic pro-European sentiments.
Once these kids dig deeper they realize that Christianity is too easily corrupted by and associated with universalist neoliberal values, as demonstrated by the current Pope.

[Anonymous No.11293257]

>>11293184
Absolutely true.
I would happily trade more genuine christians for any of these people.
However, understand that from sound theology, follow sound prescription. Both aren't enough, but I don't think any aspect of the bloodthirsty, pseudo-catholic doctrines you can find here could be described as sound anyway.

[Anonymous No.11293282]

>>11293251
cringe

[Anonymous No.11293294]

>>11293184
Fascists =/= Nazis

And it is inevitable that religious belief would clash with cultures that precede Christianity. The Romans adapted Christianity to their own culture.

[Anonymous No.11293620]

>>11293251
>Once these kids dig deeper they realize that Christianity is too easily corrupted by and associated with universalist neoliberal values, as demonstrated by the current Pope.
Too easily? It's a decades or even centuries worth of investments, and required WW2.

[Anonymous No.11293621]

>>11292753
But seriously, can you not understand what sounds so terrible about thinking the world is in a bad way, and not trying to do anything about it because it would be "cringe"?
You just sound like a jaded asshole.

[Anonymous No.11293657]

>>11293184
>It’s obvious to anyone who is capable of being honest with themselves that the Christian view of life and the Fascist view of life are not at all compatible.
You're wrong. Franco's Spain is a real thing. Christianity can be compatible with a wide swath of things. Consider we were promised a new Earth and bodies, and that we are to garden the world and produce good fruit for God. Eugenics and transhumanism aren't off the table. Hubris that prevents their ideal implementation, however, is.
It's not exactly a problem for me, as schools and abortion clinics are used by secularists to replace the institutions of eugenics, but with no quality control beyond advertisements (aka. this kills the p-zombie). If you think that Christian ideals are incompatible with earthly rule, you are correct - the kingdom of God is within us, not an earthly kingdom. Though I do love pre-revolution France, Russia and Europe a lot more than the current one.
Christians should have more of a problem with secular humanism and communism, as they lead down to paths that avoid or even despise culture and flourishment of families, men, women and children.

>‘Where in Christian doctrine does it say we should love niggers?’ I can’t stand the ‘Deus Vult’ crowd.
Hate is odd. Most of the anger you see online is venting. Few years ago I had just written on /pol/ about my anger towards immigrants and niggers and whatnot. Then I had to leave for shopping as it was getting late. It was -30 Celsius outside. I meet two niggers and their frozen car. They asked me to help them - and I did. Didn't even feel bad about it. Most online anger doesn't translate to genocides. However, it does translate to political victories for populists and anybody who closes off borders.

[Anonymous No.11293666]

I tried to get an answer over at /pol/, but they were to busy arguing about the Jews. I’m going to try this place.

I just came back from a trip to Crete and I have a lot of questions. I have been interested in learning about Christianity and the three major denominations for some time now.

1. Why do Orthodoxs worship Mary and pray to her? Orthodox Christians will of course deny this but I have evidence for this. In my trip I ONLY saw pictures of Mary (of course with Christ) everywhere. I didn’t see a single picture of Christ by himself.

I’m also reading Zorba The Greek right now and there is a little story about a man who went to church to pray for Mary to help his wife with her ongoing labor. They name Mary many more times than Christ. I think this is a common occurrence in Orthodxy all throughout.

2. Why were there so many wizard priests walking around in the towns I visited? I really felt like I was in Tehran or something.

3. WHY are there SOOO many churches everywhere? They are all beautiful, but why so many? Some of them were even located on top of mountains, how are you even supposed to access these?

3. General question: Why do Christians always talk about Jesus, but rarely about God the Father or God the Holy Spirit? I have never heard any Christian pray for either of these two, but supposedly they are equal in greatness to Jesus. I know there is One God, that’s not my point.

4. I really like different aspects from each of the major three denominations, but they all seem to raise many questions on varying issues, that I have problems with.

5. Do Christians believe that when you go to heaven you will “meet” God? Will you be able to talk to God? Ask questions and get answers?

[Anonymous No.11293669]

>>11290298
>Stop ascribing properties you picked up reading Plato, Aristotle, Hindu Scriptures, etc. to the Christian God. Dante is not canon, neither is Milton.
They're more canon than the whole of the Old Testament. Suck my dick.

[Anonymous No.11293675]

>>11293657
I think, if the question is whether or not Christianity is compatible with fascism or not, the first thing you must do is actually define fascism.

>>11293666
1. Its strange you didn't see any adult depictions of Christ.

2. What's a wizard priest?

3. Because they need to house the entire population every Sunday for mass. The isolated churches you speak of may be monastaries.

[Anonymous No.11293679]

>>11293666
1. They don't.

Orthodoxy went through multiple icon autisms and they're uncomfortable with the idea of having images of Christ.

Also you don't pray to the images, the images are merely decorative. And you don't pray TO the virgin or TO the saints, you beg them to pray for you to the father.

2. dunno

3. There are many churches in places where there's lots of religious people because you need enough churches for all the people to go to on Sunday.

3?. Jesus, god the father and the holy spirit are all the same entity, Jesus is the body of god on Earth, but at the same time his son. It's a bit weird but we're talking about a being with no bounds to the physical world.

4. that's not really a question?

5. Probably not directly. But you can talk to him indirectly even here on Earth.

[Anonymous No.11293684]

>>11293675
>the first thing you must do is actually define fascism.
Anything [x] political group doesn't like and historical model for society [x] doesn't like. Christianity itself fits the description.

[Anonymous No.11293782]

>>11290298
>Stop ascribing properties you picked up reading Plato, Aristotle, Hindu Scriptures, etc. to the Christian God.
Literally been happening for the entire existence of Christianity, lad. It is the muttiest religion. All religions are by nature an accumulation of various traditions, beliefs, and cultures across time, but Christianity is by far the Great Mutt. In most recent centuries, it happened because Christians would try to warp and encapsulate other religions within their own notions. Ultimately rendering everything ambiguous.

[Anonymous No.11293870]

>>11293782
Well, can you imagine a creator God who didn't encompass the essence of everything?

[Anonymous No.11293878]

>>11293679
>Orthodoxy went through multiple icon autisms and they're uncomfortable with the idea of having images of Christ.
Jews started some iconoclast proto-protestantism in the East. It was crushed, as it should be. What followed was a more articulated form of iconography.

[Anonymous No.11294174]

>>11293870
Yes, actually.

[Anonymous No.11294182]

>>11294174
How would that be? What would such a creator create, if it was less than something in everything?

[Anonymous No.11294215]

>>11293621
No, the world is fucked. All I objected to was the portentous "godlessness."

[Anonymous No.11294241]

>>11294215
Poetic Licence. In any case, I'm glad we're in some agreement on the matter.

[Anonymous No.11294246]

>>11290298
>Being a Christian and not a classicist
kek. I'm chillin' with my slaves from the neighboring country.

[Anonymous No.11294261]

>>11294246
They don't need to be slaves, as that creates resentment. Generally speaking, classes are a good thing to be proud of, no matter the class you belong.

[Anonymous No.11294685]

>>11290917
>>11292321
>>11292550
>>11292555
this new-age art faggotry needs to stay away from anything wholesome

[Anonymous No.11295167]

>>11290298

Who the hell would want to be a Biblical Christian? It's much more fun, interesting, and valuable to eclectically combine things.

[Anonymous No.11295333]

>>11294182
not that anon, but why not life or the earth or the universe?

This is very reductionist but the simple idea of a god from the platonic dimension would still be a creator even though he didn't create the dimension he's acting from.

[Anonymous No.11296578]

>>11292171
Highly underrated

[Anonymous No.11296598]

>>11290319
true

[Anonymous No.11296621]

>>11292171
im doing this right now