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hey /lit/ i am gonna an hero in about a month or so, and i was wondering what 2 books i absolutely need to read before then.

>> No.1128694

people who brag about killing themselves are faggots.

>> No.1128696

>>1128694
point out the part where i bragged

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>> No.1128703

and the bible

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>>1128696
it's the part where you make a thread about killing yourself on the internet.

>> No.1128709

NOOOOO! not anything which might dissuade me from my course! keep your inspirational literature to yourself. the bible??!! that'll take me like 4 months at least, defintiely not consistent with my time-frame.

>> No.1128711

>>1128703

That'll just make him want to kill himself sooner.

>> No.1128712

>>1128709
>4 months

>> No.1128715

The Catcher in the Rye sounds right up your aisle.

>> No.1128718

>>1128712
was that a quotation "4 months" using the right-hand pointy bracket, or did you use the right-hand pointy bracket to mean "greater than" as it is used in mathematics context, as in to say that it will take longer than 4 months to read the bible

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Please don't kill yourself. Really. A friend of mine just killed herself two days ago, and the whole community is really shook up. Depression is awful, I know, but it CAN be treated. Whatever you're feeling is only temporary, and you're proposing a long term solution to a short term problem.

I'm not trying to talk down to know. I know that I have no idea how hard things are for you. But I do know that there's help. Please, reconsider.

>> No.1128725

/lit/ this is a very serious thread, i need to know what are the 2 most monumental pieces of literature. previously i was going to stay alive for the film release of harry potter 7, but i decided that since it is going to be released in 2 parts, and anyway the book isn't very good, no sense in waiting on that.

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Please don't kill yourself. Really. A friend of mine just killed herself two days ago, and the whole community is really shook up. Depression is awful, I know, but it CAN be treated. Whatever you're feeling is only temporary, and you're proposing a long term solution to a short term problem.

I'm not trying to talk down to you. I know that I have no idea how hard things are for you. But I do know that there's help. Please, reconsider.

PS. If I just got trolled, so be it. My friend really did just kill herself, and I can't stomach other people talking about doing the same thing right now, even if they are just joking about it.

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>> No.1128734

How about throwing him The Silmarillion and hoping he becomes an elitist fantasyfag instead, so he can forget about his desire for death and instead begin to criticise modern fantasy to his heart's delight.

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>> No.1128735

>>1128726
no, you weren't trolled, courage wolf. i am seriously planning to razor my forearms from hand to elbow in a months' time, and i just want to make sure that i've absorbed all worthwhile parts of the western cannon. your input is appreciated.

>> No.1128746

>>1128734
i would actually feel as though i could safely die after finishing the silmarillion. i would be disappointed if i died without ever having finished. i think that where i left off, some contingent of elves had just turned against their brothers and were travelling north to some pass to middle-earth (to the east).

>> No.1128754

>>1128735
At least tell somebody you know in person about your plans. Maybe they can talk you out of it where I can't. I promise you that you are a beautiful person, with a life full of opportunities that you can't see right now. Please, I really do not want you to kill yourself.

I absolutely DO NOT condone your suicide. But if you want to read two incredibly important books, you would be very hard pressed to do better than "Remembrance of Things Past," (or "In Search of Lost Time." Whatever) and "The Brothers Karamazov." I'm also tempted to recommend Hamlet, because it's the magnum opus of the greatest English language writer of all time (with the possible exception of Joyce, I guess), but I would be worried about how you would take the theme of depression and suicide. Though it is probably worth noting that Hamlet decides NOT to kill himself.

>> No.1128758

>>1128746
You've barely begun, brother. Read and weep at the true high point of fantasy--it will never come again.

>> No.1128762

you should read two books from each person who posts in this thread

>> No.1128767

Finnegans Wake
Read it until you understand it completely

>> No.1128777

Do what you must do.

Read Kafka. I don't want anyone to die without having read anything from Kafka.

>> No.1128781

>>1128767
dammit anon! you make my plans so difficult!

no, but a lot of people interpret my capacity for humor as evidence that i would never an hero .... in fact, that's probably true for a lot of suicides.

i can't really communicate my desire to anyone local because they can cause the law to intervene and not only foil my plans, but force me to engage in expensive therapy with a legion of dumbasses.

>> No.1128783

>>1128777
i read the metamorphosis in high school and had to analyze it in depth, i don't really want to go back to it.

what else would you recommend by him?

>> No.1128790

>>1128783
The Trial, The Castle, The Penal Colony

>> No.1128789

>>1128781
Idea - you seem alright so I'll say this
smoke weed - relax and next time you think about the killing yourself smoke weed and then relax
Oh and I actually would suggest reading holy texts while high - takes forever to get through but damn wouldn't have read most of the New Testament if not for it

>> No.1128788

Don't kill yourself, OP. If nothing else, you always have masturbation and dreams.

>> No.1128797

>>1128789
ok i will call my dealer tomorrow, i haven't smoked in a couple months. i guess that there's no reason not to spend like crazy, other than wanting my 'wealth' to go to someone else, but there's really no one. anyway if i attempt to make a will at this point, then folks will wonder.

>> No.1128804

Steppenwolf:

"All suicides have the responsibility of fighting against the temptation of suicide. Every one of them knows very well in some corner of his soul that suicide, though a way out, is rather a mean and shabby one, and that it is nobler and finer to be conquered by life than to fall by one's own hand."

Or Siddartha, if you plan on dying for scientific or transcendental reasons.

>> No.1128832

>mfw when OP stops being depressed a month from now, depression doesn't usually last a month, you'll be ok OP, a month from now you won't kill yourself because your mood will be completely different, go live life read some good literature and aspire to be awesome. I have faith in you buddy.

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read it. know its truth.

>> No.1128847

>>1128804
>suicide a way out.

This kind of thing demonstrates how people can't grasp what death is. Killing yourself isn't a 'way' anywhere, lol. It' s not even an 'escape'. If suicidal people understood what death actually is it would be impossible to fantasise about it.

>> No.1128848

>>1128781

Christ, just fucking tell someone. You're not unique in your desire to kill yourself. In admission, everyone feels like dying at one point or another in their lives. Tell a goddamn psychologist, teacher, friend or parent. It's better than dying.

>> No.1128853

>everyone feels like dying at one point or another in their lives.
no, people go "jeez I wish I didn't have to experience X" and take a flying mental leap to the idea that death (-X) would be a way to address that problem. Whereas in fact death=0.

>> No.1128854

>>1128848
yeah but all those people, if they actually were your friends, would by definition take actions to prevent your suicide.

>> No.1128863

>>1128854
selfish fuckers

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I think this is relative to the thread.

>> No.1128874

>>1128854

Yeah, they mightn't listen, but at least you've told someone and brought your actions out of your own mind. If you don't think your friends or parents will listen, talk to someone who will - i.e. a psychologist.

>> No.1128887

>>1128874
>>1128848
What difference does it matter when someone chooses to die, or how? We all must go sooner or later, and there's obviously nothing of real accomplishment in the world - fame/fortune/health are all smoke and ashes. So why does it matter?

>> No.1128890

>>1128887
>real accomplishment
Before you say it doesn't exist, try defining it. I bet when you try you'll realise how ridiculous you're being.

>> No.1128893

>>1128890
so you're basically saying accomplishment is subjective. if this is so then why can this person not choose to leave? is there a problem?

>> No.1128899

>>1128893
You can, but generally people make better decisions when they've properly defined why they want what they want.

And to repeat what I said upthread "leave" implies movement to a new location, which is not what death is. Pointing to you not understanding the nature of what a suicidal person is choosing.

>> No.1128901

successful troll is successful

>> No.1128904

>>1128899
I have to say, I think it is you who does not know what death is, friend.

>> No.1128906

>>1128904
enlighten me then, buddy

>> No.1128912

>>1128906
Death is leaving one form of consciousness and entering another. The world is a short lived, non-serious thing, if we weren't so caught up in externals that would be a lot easier to see, but the senses are good at deception.

>> No.1128913

>>1128887

Exactly for that reason. You've only got this time and it's all over. You'll be exactly as you were before you were born - there is nothing out there, no escape, nothing. You have to live now, because living is exceptional in itself. Even if you don't do anything or the worst possible things happen to you, life is better than nothing.

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>>1128913
>our faces when we realised there's no escape ever, as mass cannot be created or destroyed, that we're trapped in a swirling vortex of particles for all of eternity

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>>1128912
>implying that the absence of consciousness is on the same level of importance as consciousness
>inb4 people argue the merits of "importance" as a concept. Herp derp existentialism; enjoy being technically right but functionally useless.

>> No.1128919

>>1128915

Yes, but you're not conscious. That's like saying a rock is alive.

>> No.1128920

>>1128919
0/10