spinoza thread

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Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:20:27 2018 No.11285439 [Reply] [Original]

spinoza thread

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:32:33 2018 No.11285507 honestly fuck spinoza

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:35:22 2018 No.11285526 >>11285439 >He actually fell for the Spinoza meme.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:38:26 2018 No.11285544 >>11285439 The man. Literally right about everything.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:40:42 2018 No.11285559 Read first for any goys duped by the Spinoza meme:5 https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/03/04/pariah-to-messiah-the-engineered-apotheosis-of-baruch-spinoza-part-1-of-3/

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:41:50 2018 No.11285566 File: 61 KB, 470x580, _low001200501ill171.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Spinoza is based af

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:44:42 2018 No.11285583 >>11285507 >>11285526 why? found it

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:45:08 2018 No.11285586 >>11285559 >I am too dumb to read Spinoza but this rightwing conspiracy website says he's bad so he's bad I guess

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 18:56:07 2018 No.11285646 >>11285586 Every writer there has a PhD, and talking about jews and the jewish question =/= "conspiracy," dumb fuck.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:19:14 2018 No.11285824

>>11285646
nobody gives a fuck if you have a phd from directional state university that you cant even get a teaching position with. whenever i google these faux intellectuals names you cant even find any university affiliations or research, just a bunch of conspiracy websites proudly flaunting their "dr" title. if you went to an elite college (ie one where phds actually get teaching gigs and dont have to work for conspiracy rags) you would be around so many jews you would have to drop out. almost a fourth of the people at my school are jewish; the only question their presence prompts is why white people are so stupid by comparison? lower sats, gres, iqs, etc. sad stuff really.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:24:11 2018 No.11285869 >>11285824 This is a jew sperg post on steroids. We know you get this heated out of an inbred-related need to defend the tribe at all costs against evil Amalek, but try to keep it together, rabbi.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:24:47 2018 No.11285873 >>11285869 t. 104 iq goy who couldnt get in an ivy

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:25:13 2018 No.11285878 File: 76 KB, 835x478, Unz-1-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11285824 >a fourth of the people at my school are jewish It's called nepotism.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:26:13 2018 No.11285891 When will cock poster save us from this thread?

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:30:53 2018 No.11285929

>>11285878
affirmative action was developed to limit the number of jews since they perform better on standardized tests than goys. now affirmative action is only used to discriminate against asians since jews are considered white on applications. nothing to do with nepotism, everything to do with group differences in aptitude. dont worry, there are still a few worthy goys.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:34:52 2018 No.11285960

>>11285929
Simply false. That's been ripped apart thoroughly.

http://www.unz.com/runz/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

Jews are tribal middle eastern semites known most for their dishonesty and nepotism and not the merit of their actions. They aren't honest and upstanding like whites, they're tribal and immoral.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:38:58 2018 No.11285997

>>11285960
my guy, ashkenazi jews AVERAGE almost one whole standard deviation higher than whites on iq tests. it follows that they do better on standardized tests that correlate with iq such as the SAT and thus get into elite colleges at a much higher rate. i know your goy brain has trouble processing this information, but please try to understand so you can stop embarrassing yourself.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:40:24 2018 No.11286005 >>11285960 >>11285869 go back to youtube

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:43:18 2018 No.11286025

>>11285997
There are far more high IQ whites than there are jews, and high Ashkenazi IQ is limited to verbal because it stems from memorizing talmud quotes about boiling jesus in semen. Those verbal IQ scores are also in doubt due to some of the results coming from jews who ran cheating scams like the Kaplan test maker, from whom some of those scores derive. You're out of your league, schlomo, get the fuck off /lit /.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:45:14 2018 No.11286034 >>11286025 sure sure, now get off this board, come back when you have a girlfriend

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:47:13 2018 No.11286048 >>11286034 Married with children, kike. Now get the fuck off my board.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:47:35 2018 No.11286049 File: 11 KB, 250x241, kek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11286025 >white supremacists literally making the same arguments to explain the gap between jews and whites that liberals make to explain the gap between blacks and whites

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:48:09 2018 No.11286054

>>11286025
Jews have been tested and their mathematical iq is higher than whites too anon. its not just verbal. their spatial reasoning is poor. Hence their mathematical contributions are rarely in geometry. There is no doubt at all that Jews have higher than average verbal iq. Unless you’re implying whites are so fucking guillible and helpless that low verbal and mathematical and spatial iq paradites somehow did voodoo on them and deprived them of their senses. You pathetic nigger

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:52:15 2018 No.11286078

>>11286048
sure, sure, what a lovely life you must lead.
>It's the jews momma they're evil :((((( they won north of 20% of nobel, witch nobody in the relevant fields ever contested, although they're like 0.2% of the population but they're stoooopid yeah only verbal momma :(((((

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:53:45 2018 No.11286088 >>11286048 >Married with children what are you doing on a children's website?

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:55:19 2018 No.11286097

>>11286078
meritocracy was developed by jews to oppress whites. nobel prizes, pulitzers, elite colleges, sats, iq tests were all designed to make white people feel inferior and must be disregarded (unless i can use them to establish my superiority to blacks).

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:56:25 2018 No.11286105

>>11286054
There are far more high IQ whites than jews, and there's more variation, which is why whites aren't a race of gypsy accountants that have to live in other people's nations and pay them to protect them until they inevitably get kicked the fuck out as you're about to be again, you rat kike.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:58:18 2018 No.11286115 >>11286105 i guess jews dominate fields like law, medicine, physics, and economics because theyre too easy for whites.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 19:59:56 2018 No.11286122 >another virgin philosopher

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:00:31 2018 No.11286126 >>11285439 Literrally who?

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:01:26 2018 No.11286132

>>11286115
Jews are a parasitic people who cannot even create those relevant institutions on their own and only come to "dominate" such fields in urban centers in other people's countries that they swarm to and breed in and nepotistically take over. There is nothing to envy about jews.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:01:58 2018 No.11286135

>>11286054
No. Einstein, the guy who put actual geometry in physics, Perelman, greatest contemporary geometer, Van Karman, greatest hydrodynamicst of all time (or so was I told), and hydrodynamics is all about spatial intuition, the whole school of italian geometry, Grothendieck (up to debate this one), Jacobi the guy who invented analytic geometry -- these contradict what you say. Am grad student in maths for what it's worth.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:06:40 2018 No.11286162

>>11286105
Jews have had a higher iq than whites for most of their existence, only Meds had sapient levels of intelligence until the Gothic period. Your ancestors were illiterate savages
>>11286132
Jews didn’t have any nation to build institutes in and were too few in number to conquer another people. You pretend to enjoy master morality and then oscillate back to slave morality when it suits you
>>11286135
I believe you, but Jews have been tested and their spatial reasoning is worse than whites and asians, they have better verbal iq than any race, and better mathematical iq than most races except for east asians. However, they also have much higher rates of genius than other races because of evolutionary tradeoffs they’ve made. I did not realize they had so much accomplishment in fields requiring spatial reasoning. My point is that he is a fucking idiot, Jews are obviously extremely bright and even the annoying buzzfeed retard Jews who write awful stories and suck corporate cock for a living have a higher average iq than rural whites and most middleclass whites do.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:09:26 2018 No.11286175 >spinoza thread >more nonsense about jews or whatever and no talk about spinoza's thoughts

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:10:39 2018 No.11286182 >>11286175 no one here has actually read the ethics, much less the /pol/tards.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:11:01 2018 No.11286183 >>11286175 DUDE WHAT IF LIKE EVERYTHING WAS GOD dabs

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:12:19 2018 No.11286190

>>11286162
You are literally repeating the same shit that has already been dealt with or debunked.

Listen, jews are so inbred that there is one type of jew, a parasite that can't protect or feed itself and has to bribe others to do so. Whites had a tripartite system so there are warriors and others who didn't have to be smart. But there are still far more high IQ and super high IQ whites than there are jews total. You are a human parasite, understand? And one who is about to get expelled again because you are inbred psychopaths. Get it, kike?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:12:54 2018 No.11286191 >>11286132 What is the state of Israel, what are the ancient kingdoms of Israel and Judah, what is the Hasmonean dynasty

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:14:24 2018 No.11286199 >>11285646 Look up the definition of a conspiracy you illiterate fuck

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:15:26 2018 No.11286205

>>11286191
Dysfunctional states that we're held up by others or states that were toppled as present day Israel will likely be in our lifetime. Jews cannot and never have created anything on their own, they are literally humanparasites that need a host to survive because they only know how to destroy.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:17:37 2018 No.11286212

>>11286183
if there is a god its spinoza’z god
>>11286190
Jews in Israel farm for themselves and fight arabs ceremonially. Jews invented the atomic bomb and modern physics anon. Their population, which unlike nearly all other comparable peoples, survived genocides from MENA and brought itself into a modern world, is much hardier than any parasite ive ever seen. Certainly they need whites help but if they didn’t get help they’d have died off. They did, and so they didn’t. Its that simple mate. The Jews persisted because they did what had to be done to get by, and they were useful and brilliant in their obstinance. You should at least have some respect for the persistence of the Jew. Also, white nordics had nothing until the Meds gave them their civilization. The Germans took everything from Rome and built a worse version of it for almost 1000 years, when again the Meds discovered america and only after giving them the Renaissance and age of exploration, rome and a rediscovery of mediterreanean antiquity did Nords leap ahead. I don’t disparage them for that until white supremacists say stupid shit like Jews only have high verbal iq (but not really teehee), idiot.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:17:46 2018 No.11286213 >>11286205 The first kingdom of Israel lasted for about thrice the time the US has existed but ok. I'm sure being conquered by the Roman empire after putting up such a good fight that you get recorded in the history books is dysfunctional, too.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:22:21 2018 No.11286238

>>11286212
You belong to a race of parasites that had literally zero scientific and technological accomplishments prior to the 1800s, while most of those you attained afterwards came from michlings or are under question due to nepotism caused by how inbred you are. You are a very sick and delusional people and your inability to grasp this is why you have been kicked out of 359 countries.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:25:29 2018 No.11286261 >>11286238 >prior to the 1800s uh i wonder why >come from michlings or are under question literally not one jewish physics has ever been questioned by anybody but alex jones

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:26:31 2018 No.11286266 >>11286261 physicist*

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:26:59 2018 No.11286268 >>11286261 Jews lived in the shtetl prior to then. Without a host a parasite stews alone.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:27:53 2018 No.11286277 >>11286238 Jews are ok in my book, why are you so upset?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:31:34 2018 No.11286290 >>11286212 >if there is a god its spinoza’z god Advaita Vedanta is more accurate tbqh

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:32:17 2018 No.11286295 >>11286268 Imagine being this stupid. Hint: they're called ghettos, and they were forced tk live there.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:34:10 2018 No.11286303

>>11286277
Jews hate you and come from a culture that teaches them that you are literally their slave. If they're okay in your book then I recommend you question why you think so, and whether it has to do with them controlling all of your media and thus brainwashing you to think they're something other than what they really are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:35:54 2018 No.11286313 >>11286295 Very uninformed opinion. Jews have always cut themselves off, which is how they've remained an unassimilated, roving parasite that has moved from host to host since Egyptian times.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:38:55 2018 No.11286330

>>11286303
jewish culture isnt insular these days, at least not for secular jews. about half of the white students at my school are jewish (many mixed, basically all secular) and most of them are pretty indifferent to their jewish heritage. jews and goyim date, fuck, and befriend each other without issue; you should really just be grateful that they're willing to share their genes.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:44:23 2018 No.11286356 >>11286303 >Americans hate you and come from a culture that teaches them that you are literally their slave.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:46:48 2018 No.11286374

>>11286330
Jews are like locusts that get released into the greater population every so often by their leaders to destroy a civilization. This is why Ashkenazi jews are genetically half Italian, from when they were released upon Rome and destroyed it via spreading the slave religion of Christianity, which was today's liberalism. They then receded into their enclaves afterwards, bred only with each other for several centuries to retune their DNA and re-brainwash into the tribal mindset their flock, and around the 1800s they were again released and half been on a path of destruction ever since.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:47:19 2018 No.11286380

>>11286313
"uninformed", sure. It's alright Cletus, reading comprehension and not repeating the same inane ramblings over and over again when faced with arguments you can't even understand let alone reply to is not for everyone, I guess, you can go now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:47:58 2018 No.11286382 >>11286374 i know this is bait but im honestly impressed by your knowledge of anti-semitic thought.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:49:03 2018 No.11286389 >>11286374 >they were released They were forced out of they country by the Roman after three wars they waged to stay there. This is wikipedia level and your stupidity is irritating.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:50:05 2018 No.11286395 >>11286382 shit is this bait. If so it's good.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:50:42 2018 No.11286397 >>11286380 You're way out of your league. >>11286382 That's actually a pretty unique and original opinion, not sure where else you would have heard it, and you're talking to one of the best on this subject, chap.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:52:32 2018 No.11286409 >>11286395 im just assuming. he doesnt really try to refute individual points; he just unleashes a torrent of conspiracy theories every post.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:53:40 2018 No.11286415

>>11286389
Repeating jewish victim nattatives is bush league in this conversation. Jews are a destructive race that attacks and subverts in very unique ways, and has gotten kicked out constantly for it. It has nothing to do with anyone else, they are sick and twisted people; a cult that has been inbred and brainwashed to destroy the societies of others for their high priests.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:54:49 2018 No.11286429 >>11286409 Jews are tribal people and tribal people conspire. Try to use words correctly if you wish to be taken seriously.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:56:14 2018 No.11286440 >>11286429 i used to be like you until i realized that the jews were the natural allies of young conservatives like ourselves. trump works with them for a reason.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 20:59:23 2018 No.11286460

>>11286440
You never understood the JQ, don't lie. And you should be wiser. Jews hate you and see you as their enemy and slave. They don't even see you as human so you're just being what they call a "shabbos goyim." Are you familiar with that term? I think you should be.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:02:14 2018 No.11286471 >>11286005 trans people are gross and women are objects. gas the jews lol

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:08:56 2018 No.11286504 can you fucks shut up and post nice things about Spinoza?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:12:02 2018 No.11286523 >>11285559 That link isn't talking about Spinoza, but Israelites and how they have used Spinoza to push a political agenda.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:17:10 2018 No.11286550 >>11286523 My mistake. Jonathan Israel's. Even when the article enters discussion of his philosophy, it is mostly concerned with how it's framed into modern political discourse.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:23:46 2018 No.11286590

>>11286523
>>11286550
Did you read all three parts? Correct me if I'm wrong, been a while since I read it, but I thought a lot of it had to do with Spinoza's thought fitting into a typical subversive jewish mold being, with some of the anti-white religious, proto-progressive ideas jews would later push, which is why they later pushed and promoted Spinoza an important philosopher.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:26:25 2018 No.11286606

>>11286590
I didn't read all three parts, just basing it off the first one. Ultimately, it seems more concerned with what others have done with his philosophy and what it has contributed in the political realm, rather than what it has contributed in the philosophical one.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:28:30 2018 No.11286617 >>11286504 Spinoza is pretty cool.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:29:12 2018 No.11286619

>>11286415
That's not a victim narrative for fuck's sake Cletus, that's History, jotted down by the Romans themselves. We get it, the jews are this and that, yadda yadda yadda, now would you mind proving you have something between your ears and display some reading comprehension for fuck's sake?
>>11286397
I know that i'm out of my league, I'm just bored waiting for my exam results and talking to a downright retard like you kills time.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:30:38 2018 No.11286630 >>11286504 he cute

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:31:28 2018 No.11286637 >>11285544 This

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:31:29 2018 No.11286639 >>11286504 He made very nice lenses.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:32:35 2018 No.11286642 >>11286126 Brainlet detected

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:34:33 2018 No.11286651 >>11286126 some brazilian football player. a decent forward back in the days

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:38:21 2018 No.11286664 >>11286619 The Romans and others said exactly what I'm saying now. Read your Cicero, Flaccus, Seneca, Cassius Dio, and Tacitus again. The jews have been doing the same shit they are now for millennia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:40:41 2018 No.11286677 >>11286590 Thank God he undermined Christian Europe, it's a tragedy abrehamic faiths were in Europe in the first place. Spinoza pissed off so many Christians and Jews, I think he was really on to something.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:42:18 2018 No.11286688

>>11286429
Spinoza was not a "tribal person." He was excommunicated by the Portuguese Jewish congregation.

>Nietzsche understood, having lived it himself, what constitutes the mystery of a philosopher's life. The philosopher appropriates the aescetic virtues—humility, poverty, chastity—and makes them serve ends completely his own, extraordinary ends that are not very ascetic at all, in fact. He makes them the expression of his singularity. They are not moral ends in his case, or religious means to another life, but rather the "effects" of philosophy itself. For there is absolutely no other life for the philosopher. Humility, poverty, and chastity become the effects of an especially rich and superabundant life, sufficiently powerful to have conquered thought and subordinated every other instinct to itself. This is what Spinoza calls Nature: a life no longer lived on the basis of need, in terms of means and ends, but according to a production, a productivity, a potency, in terms of causes and effects. Humility, poverty, chastity are his (the philosopher's) way of being a grand vivant, of making a temple of his own body, for a cause that is all too proud, all too rich, all too sensual. So that by attacking the philosopher, people know the shame of attacking a modest, poor, and chaste appearance, which increases their impotent rage tenfold; and the philosopher offers no purchase, although he takes every blow.

http://elibrary.bsu.az/books_400/N_140.pdf

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:43:42 2018 No.11286693 >>11286677 I agree in principle, but Spinoza was still jewing to undermine the host culture, which obviously wouldn't have been Christian if jews hadn't bribed people like Charlemagne to spread it by the sword to the Germanic tribes in the first place.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:46:02 2018 No.11286704 >>11286688 Jews are "tribal" people. Spinoza's jewing was just ahead of its time and encompassed ideas that would later be adopted by nearly all jews seeking to undermine European culture and society.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:46:10 2018 No.11286705 >>11286677 >I think he was really on to something Yeah, it's called philosophy. It always pisses off the herd when it comes near them in an unfiltered form.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:48:20 2018 No.11286710 >>11286704 How was Spinoza "jewing"?

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:49:27 2018 No.11286715 >>11286664 for heaven's sake will you learn to read a sentence, you cosmic retard? >>11286693 >the jews bribed Charlemagne u wot mate

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:51:05 2018 No.11286727 >>11286715 (It's Clovis who converted, by the way. France had been christian for a few centuries before Charlemagne)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:57:08 2018 No.11286764 >>11286710 You should read the TOO article in question. >>11286715 Jews bribed Charlemagne to spread Christianity to the Germanic tribes by the sword, which is obviously what I was referring to.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:58:36 2018 No.11286775

>>11286764
>You should read the TOO article in question.
I'd rather hear your thoughts on the matter, since I'm talking to you, not the author of that article. That article is also written by someone who thinks Nietzsche was inconsistent and a nihilist, not exactly someone I hold in high regard when it comes to matters with philosophers.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 21:59:47 2018 No.11286780 >>11286764 they didn’t at all the Jews weren’t in Northern Europe in high numbers at that point. You mean William the Conqueror

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:04:04 2018 No.11286800 >joooooozz!!!!!1

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:04:56 2018 No.11286806

>>11286775
But Nietzsche was inconsistent and a nihilist...

Anyway, Spinoza was promoting enlightenment ideas jews would later realize were beneficial to their tribal interests, the secular universalist ideals that have been running their course, and with much help from (post-Spinoza) jews ever since.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:07:36 2018 No.11286823

>>11286806
>But Nietzsche was inconsistent and a nihilist...
Then you're as poor a reader of him as that guy is.

>enlightenment ideas
Such as? This is too vague.

>the secular universalist ideals that have been running their course
Wait, science is Jewish now? Is that what you're saying here?

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:09:13 2018 No.11286836

>>11286780
No. You're confused. Charlemagne's court was stocked with jews who funded him to spread Christianity to the Germanic tribes and break them of their traditions so they could come in and exploit them, as they later did. Try to view Christianity in a post-Roman, medieval frame, and at least for the sake of argument look at jews as a tribe of authoritarian psychopaths, which they are; Christianity promoted, promotes, the worship of the jew and spread a slave morality, as Nietzsche talked about. It weakens people, which is why jews promoted it to non-jews in the Roman empire and then around Europe after its fall.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:11:27 2018 No.11286853 proud to see this board is woke on the jq. stay noided my friends.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:12:37 2018 No.11286859

>>11286823
There's a reason why people of left and right try to claim Nietzsche: because he ambiguous, which is another way of saying 'inconsistent.' Jews also promoted him because of his nihilistic views on Christianity especially, 'God is dead' and all that. And don't get mad at me for being vague when you won't even read the article. You can't have it both ways; so be more consistent, ace.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:16:23 2018 No.11286881

>>11286859
>There's a reason why people of left and right try to claim Nietzsche: because he ambiguous, which is another way of saying 'inconsistent.'
He was not ambiguous. He was complex. He was against systematizers, who he thought were people who lacked integrity. He however possessed a systematic approach so vast that being completely "inconsistent" and void of an apparent system was being completely consistent with its vastness. This is something only poor readers of his work are bound to miss; or the stupid person, who is incapable of SEEING how all the "inconsistencies" tie in together.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:18:18 2018 No.11286896

>>11286806
>But Nietzsche was inconsistent and a nihilist...
>Anyway, Spinoza was promoting enlightenment ideas jews would later realize were beneficial to their tribal interests, the secular universalist ideals that have been running their course, and with much help from (post-Spinoza) jews ever since.
fucking lmao. I bet you don't even realize how retarded this makes you look.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:19:38 2018 No.11286899 >>11286881 >>11286859 You're both morons

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:23:11 2018 No.11286918

>>11286881
You are the one who has read Nietzsche like a novice. He was completely inconsistent on most subjects and routinely seemed to contradict himself which is why he is an enigma people of all of kinds of persuasions make claim to understand.

I'll give you an example. People like me who talk about the jewish problem praise Nietzsche for his diagnosis of the jewish tribal strategy, the transvaluation of values and the vehicle through which slave morality is spread. He nailed that on the head and I use that argument to help others understand jewish behavior. But as you likely aware Nietzsche also made many statements seemingly attacking so-called 'antisemites.'

This is an inconsistency, get it? Nietzsche did this intentionally, he was very much aware of what he was doing by making seemingly contradictory statements.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:24:23 2018 No.11286924 >>11286896 Try to produce an argument if you want to be a part of the discussion here, thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:25:35 2018 No.11286928 It's funny how there's a Ted Kaczynski thread up right now, and also this one. Everything Ted rants about in his manifesto basically has its start with Spinoza.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:27:30 2018 No.11286937

>>11286918
that’s because N thought anti-semtes were slave moralists and saw their connection to the cult of the state, germanic barbarism, beer hall culture and collectivism
>>11286928
its also funny how /lit/ is too stupid to do anything with N or Spinoza or Ted and because all the oldfags left or don’t like engaging there’s no one to keep a good rhythm or crush the retard antisemites

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:33:25 2018 No.11286968 >>11286937 >that’s because N thought anti-semtes were slave moralists Yet he said the jews were the progenitors and main promoters of slave morality. Hence shock claims of inconsistency.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:34:36 2018 No.11286975

>>11286918
>This is an inconsistency, get it?
This is an inconsistency because you are not coming from Nietzsche's perspective. You are coming from yours, which is looking for certain things and discarding what doesn't suit your agenda. Nietzsche did not share your agenda and thus had more to say on the matter (a LOT more, in fact) than just what suited yours. The evaluation of these parts as inconsistencies in his work is invented by your own mind.

Nietzsche even wrote something on readers like you:

>The worst readers are those who behave like plundering troops: they take away a few things they can use, dirty and confound the remainder, and revile the whole.

And this isn't your only misunderstanding on the matter. You also called him a nihilist, like that author at TOO. Same problem: it's an invention created by your own mind, because you are looking for things in the work that suit your own agenda rather than attempting to understand the whole view of the author of the work. And because of this, you are mistaken about the author's view and possess an incomplete understanding of it.

These /pol/ kids, man...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:37:03 2018 No.11286984 This is why Spinoza should be combined into the Hindu threads.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:42:04 2018 No.11287005

>>11286975
No, and I've had this conversation with Nietzsche novices like yourself before. I'll give you some advice: pretending you know what Nietzsche believed and can fit those beliefs into a consistent framework is the biggest giveaway that you understand Nietzsche least of all. People like myself who have been reading him for over a decade, and scholars like Andrew Joyce, say he is inconsistent because he was. And that isnt even controversial at this point, it's just a fact.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:50:49 2018 No.11287046

>>11287005
Who are you trying to fool, man? I know you and your buddies have goals here and maybe even quotas to meet and need to do what you can to dethrone anyone who doesn't suit your agenda, but it's not going to work. You don't know shit about Nietzsche, clearly. Your comprehension of him has been diluted by your agenda.

And while you and your buds are definitely organized and consistent, I'll give you all that, you are all horrible at philosophical debate and reading philosophy in general. Just horrible at it. None of your arguments ever pertain to the philosophical ideas being discussed and always skirt around the sides to get jabs in where you can to divert attention away from your inability to address these ideas head-on. Because you haven't actually read the material, much less toiled years in order to understand it like myself and many others here have. You've read stuff like TOO or second hand material. Andrew Joyce is an utter buffoon if he thinks Nietzsche is inconsistent and a nihilist and so are you, end of story, nothing else to reply with because that is simply the case and there are PLENTY of other people who can explain to you in serious depth why that is. Philosophers who have come later and expanded on Nietzsche's work. Scholars who have done better philosophical research than that guy has. Drop the pretenses and do something productive with your time, dude.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:55:51 2018 No.11287063

>>11287005
>>11287046
And to loop this back to Deleuze's comment on Spinoza's idea of nature posted earlier in the thread,

>Humility, poverty, chastity are his (the philosopher's) way of being a grand vivant, of making a temple of his own body, for a cause that is all too proud, all too rich, all too sensual.

The philosopher, which is the "secular universalist" in your words, is consistent in his goal, which is to make the whole world and its values subordinate to himself. If you don't grasp that, you don't grasp philosophy and you undermine the work of the philosopher.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 22:55:52 2018 No.11287064 >>11287046 based post

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:03:18 2018 No.11287097

>>11287046
>>11287063
You're wrong and making an assertion very few believe, whereas the inconsistencies abound and have been pointed out by people of all stripes for decades. It's obvious to the point where you're embarrassing yourself trying to assert otherwise, against all facts and everyone who has pointed out again and again, of which I provided examples, why there's no sense in what you're saying.

Nietzsche was not consistent. That's a very simple and obvious conclusion anyone who knows what they're talking about has reached. You're engaging in effrontery trying to claim otherwise.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:06:25 2018 No.11287113

>>11286968
that doesn’t negate what he said you conniving ideologue N did not like anti-semites, he personally found them repugnant and rebuked them at every point in his short career. Of course he was inconsistent but that really means subtle and he says that holding contradictions is a sign of genius and ennobles as it means we are not satisfied with one perspective. im not talking about jews, he did not like them racially, culturally or theologically but he also strongly disdained people like you.

you’re marring his concept of subtlety, N was obsessed with subtle, opaque personalities who seemed to untrained eyes to be inconsistent. He wasn’t advocating cognitive dissonance and he wasn’t trying to be a showman, he felt that you could say “there is no will” and “Spirit is a disease” while also talking about the Will and Spirit affirmatively. In just this way he called Jews parasites and also called anti-Semites parasites. I agree with him on both counts. Hitler read the edited versions of his works and just fucking ignored whenever he attacked fatherland, state, volkish ideas. Of course N also praised Germans and called for German values, he praised the military and hierarchy, all of that is consistent. He wanted something other than germanic populism, he wanted Germanic Caesar or Napoleon, maybe Alexander. A natural aristocrat, and a paneuropean racial program, and even said he wanted Jews to be bred out of existence and the mass of them exterminated (i agree with this too!)

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:10:16 2018 No.11287126 >>11285960 Are these people for real?

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:11:51 2018 No.11287131

>>11287097
>To acknowledge untruth as a condition of life: this clearly means resisting the usual value feelings in a dangerous manner; and a philosophy that risks such a thing would by that gesture alone place itself beyond good and evil.

Nietzsche has said the same things I am saying. You are really too foolish. But you'll always try and get the last word in, because you're here not to discuss and understand philosophy but to size us up for your political goals and push your agenda however you can. Out of everyone here, you are the one "jewing" the most, you hypocrite.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:15:47 2018 No.11287144

>>11287113
>Of course he was inconsistent but that really means subtle and he says that holding contradictions is a sign of genius and ennobles as it means we are not satisfied with one perspective.

The first part is my only point and I never implied the latter. I said he was inconsistent purposefully, and am happy to use him to promote awareness of jews without worrying about what he said about supposed 'antisemites.'

It's the person I was arguing with who wants to believe Nietzsche had some consistent framework, which simply isn't true. But I'll remind you that Germany still wasn't a coherent entity at that point and Nietzsche died before the jews had really destroyed Germany from within, which is what led to people like Hitler dealing harshly with them later.

The only people I hate more than the '*I* understand what Nietzsche's belief system was' crowd is the 'Nietzsche would have been on this or that side' crowd, though I'm not saying that's what you said.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:18:26 2018 No.11287153 >>11287131 Nietzsche said the same things I'm saying too. The issue here is you refuse to accept that this implies an inconsistency or that he was inconsistent, when that is blatantly absurd. You are the ridiculous one here.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:22:14 2018 No.11287166

>>11287144
the Kaiser destroyed germany and so did the idiot military elites for attack the French twice. Its the Germans fault. Jews just took advantage of bad leadership. bad leadership is a sign of an immature or weak people. Hitler was a good leader until he decided to repeat his predecessor’s errors. All he had to do was fortify his eastern border, ask churchill for help, resettle the Jews in Palestine and America, nationalize industry, and not kill so many liberals. Insipid schizo aggrandizement and echo chamber of sychophantic ants egging him on. The worst mistake ever was the holocaust and invading the USSR. I am perfectly aware of Jewish debauchery, of Jewish nepotism, of Jewish cancerous inundation of culture, we have it in America now, but if he had just dealt with it like a surgeon instead of a butcher would we be in this position? Would it be taboo to ask for a caesar? Probably not, and the Jews would not have cultural weapons or sympathy. All they’d have is Israel with no bargaining power and limited support from the West, they’d havr to bargain with Arabs and cooperate with Whites or suffer the consequences. Of course the Anglos enabled them and the Americans, but its German leaders who made today’s world possible. All of his military experts told him, Donnitz told him, do not fucking declare two wars, don’t invade the USSR, don’t attack the UK, just take back Poland’s land holdings and bargain. that’s what empires used to do: take more than you expect to get, end up with what you wanted (Trump does this all the time, old raid tactic).

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:23:20 2018 No.11287171 >>11287153 >Nietzsche said the same things I'm saying too. Which things? You've mostly just hurled insults in this debate.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:25:17 2018 No.11287179

>>11287166
>Jews just took advantage of bad leadership.
This is the same type of justification jews try to use for taking over Russia and slaughtering millions of Russians. That's no excuse and you are immediately suspect for trying to make it one to excuse the behavior or an alien tribe from the middle east who has and had no business being anywhere near Germany.

So are you jewish?

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:34:04 2018 No.11287217

>>11287171
Nietzsche nailed the jewish strategy, which he described most thoroughly in Genealogy, having to do with jews wreaking their host nation from within by spreading slave morality like Christianity (or liberalism today) and promoting the weak over the strong. They "lead the slave revolt" as Nietzsche said, and use minorities, women, gays, trannies now, or any other group they can create or mobilize, to attack the host male population: white men by riding other groups into power.

It was nothing new, but he said it perfectly and put it in a modern context that ideally should help whites understand the bolshevik revolution (jews using minorities to overthrow the Russian state and take power), and what's happening in the west right now with jews mobilizing minorities against the white population.

This is what jews do and have always done. Nietzsche is a good example I use to help whites understand the jewish problem and they organize, think, and act.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:38:03 2018 No.11287223
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>tfw you get booted from your Jewish community for being too radical for their conservative lifestyle so you write the most innovative metaphysical doctrine since Plato but because you are so threatening to the traditional order of Abrahamic society you have to hide your work and have it published posthumously after you die at 44 due to all the glass dust you inhaled making lenses instead of publishing because you would have been publicly executed but the problem is that you were born Jewish so even though you rejected their teachings and were literally cast out as a infidel, pathological anti-semites will shit up every thread you are posted in and the monist system that inspired Hegelian Idealism will never be discussed in any meaningful sense
books for this feel? other than the Ethics...

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:38:47 2018 No.11287227 >>11285439 Oh ok It's that JEW debate

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:39:30 2018 No.11287230 >>11287217 Real nice fantasy world you created for yourself schizo.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:39:50 2018 No.11287233 >>11287217 How did I know you were going to mention something which has not been a part of our debate almost at all? I never questioned or denied anything Nietzsche said about Jewish people.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:49:32 2018 No.11287268 >>11287230 That's what Nietzsche said. I'm only explaining it further. >>11287233 That was my original example of a Nietzschean inconsistency! I mentioned it an hour ago lol.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:51:48 2018 No.11287278 >>11286504 he had that part about getting mad some dude was spooging all over your girl. lmao

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:52:04 2018 No.11287281 >>11287223 Wilhelm Reich book on fascist sexual frustration

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:52:34 2018 No.11287285

>>11287268
>That was my original example of a Nietzschean inconsistency!
Still going on about that stupid shit? No matter what you're told, what is explained to you, you're just going to think he was being "inconsistent" when he attacked both parties in the war that you're a part of (and which he was NOT a part of) — why do you even bother with someone who you clearly conceive of as a rambling psychotic then? If there is any inconsistency, it's this.

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:57:59 2018 No.11287311
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>see Spinoza thread
>finally, I can see some good discussion on one of the most intellectually complex men to ever live
>entire thread is pol virtue signaling
I'm jwoke but I still hate you faggots

Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:58:37 2018 No.11287316

>>11287268
ask me how I know you misunderstood Neitzsche
>Meanwhile, what they wish and want instead, with a unified assertiveness even, is to be absorbed and assimilated into Europe; they thirst for some place where they can be settled, permitted, respected at last and where they can put an end to the nomadic life, the “wandering Jew” –; and this urge and impulse (which in itself perhaps already reveals a slackening of the Jewish instincts) should be carefully noted and accommodated – in which case it might be practical and appropriate to throw the anti-Semitic hooligans out of the country.

>>	Anonymous Thu Jun 7 23:59:12 2018 No.11287319 >>11287285 You were wrong. And I was literally answering a question. You clearly aren't paying attention to the conversation.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:00:24 2018 No.11287328 >>11287311 >finally, I can see some good discussion on one of the most intellectually complex men to ever live Those days of /lit/ are over, mate. Between the 2016 election and JP, shit's fucked.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:01:21 2018 No.11287331

>>11287316
That's not an inconsistency nor what I was even referring to; that's just Nietzsche being wrong and not fully understanding the jew, which is understandable since they had only recently been let out of the shtetl and hadn't caused nearly the amount of damage they later would.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:07:44 2018 No.11287348

>>11287331
>Nietzsche was totally right about the Jews
>except when we was totally wrong about the Jews
The problem is with you anti-Semites is you can never be wrong. It's like schizophrenia or something; really reminds me of this passage from Anti-Odeipus:
>Other times he goes along with the whole game and even invents a few tricks of his own, introducing his own reference points in the model put before him and undermining it from within ("Yes, that's my mother, all right, but my mother's the Virgin Mary, you know"). One can easily imagine Schreber answering Freud: "Yes, I quite agree, naturally the talking birds are young girls, and the superior God is my daddy and the inferior God my brother." But little by little he will surreptitiously "reimpregnate" the series of young girls with all talking birds, his father with the superior God, and his brother with the inferior God, all of them divine forms that become complicated, or rather "desimplified," as they break through the simplistic terms and functions of the Oedipal triangle.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:10:22 2018 No.11287353
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>>11287348
Are you jewish? Because your projection certainly is. Antisemitism is a natural reaction to semitism, and it isnt the fault of "anti-semites" that jews have been kicked out of 359 places.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:12:13 2018 No.11287366 >>11287348 Don't bother responding to the pretentious imbecile anymore. Not worth the frustration.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:15:35 2018 No.11287386 >>11287353 >Are you jewish? literally ever time lmao; you probably don't even realize you are doing exactly what I accused you of either. I'm a slav, anon, DNA tested and everything.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:17:59 2018 No.11287403 >>11287386 It was just a question. And if you are defending jews while being unaware of how many of your fellow slavs they slaughtered, I feel you're only proving that they killed the best of your men off. Doesn't make me happy to say that either.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:19:05 2018 No.11287413

>>11286859
>>11286806
>>11286975
>Nietzsche was nihilist
>ambiguous, which is another way of saying 'inconsistent.'
>Only the originators of X can ever be guilty of X.
above average bait, but still room for improvement, 6.5/10. went too obvious with your later posts, though.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:20:15 2018 No.11287419 File: 271 KB, 1412x693, CollectedWorksSpinozaCurley.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11285439 >studying mathematical proofs >wonder how far deductive reasoning can go in explaining life >read this guy >it looks like concentrated autism

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:21:46 2018 No.11287427 >>11287403 the classic "disappointed mother" approach, holty shit you're batting 3 for 3. where do they teach you guys this shit? does stormfront have intellectual defense classes or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:23:16 2018 No.11287428 >>11285997 How smart can a group of people who constantly get themselves genocided and expelled really be? Intelligent people realize at some point when their behavior consistently leads to bad results.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:23:51 2018 No.11287430 >>11287427 Your defending an alien enemy against your close friend here. I don't know how to put it nicely, amigo. Maybe you need a few years to grow up and figure out how the world works.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:28:35 2018 No.11287439 >>11287430 I'm point out logical inconsistencies in your argument. Or are the rules of logic a Jewish conspiracy too? >inb4 Aristotle was a Jew

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:30:32 2018 No.11287448 >>11285997 IQ is a myth

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:30:50 2018 No.11287450 Spinoza is cool, but I genuinely wonder what drives people like /lit/ to philosemitism. A desire to raise their own status by associating themselves with a group that's perceived as successful? Simple masochism?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:33:56 2018 No.11287460 >>11287439 You did no such thing. You're just a young fool who doesn't know the history of your own region very well, and the mutual enemy of ours that wreaked havok upon it last century. Be a man and grow up now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:36:02 2018 No.11287468 >>11287450 they write books that really make you (((think))). not about the text though, but about jews in general. Ethics is almost impenetrable to brainlets by it's intimidating style of presentation

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:36:59 2018 No.11287472 >>11287450 >philosemitism Not really that big here. This thread isn't even philosemitic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:37:31 2018 No.11287475 >>11287460 >doubles down on the "disappointed mother" strategy should have told me to clean my room, mom. that totally would have worked

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 00:41:48 2018 No.11287486 >>11287475 Don't give a fuck about your room, slavboy. I'm telling you it's your duty to help rid every white nation of the jewish menace.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 01:01:39 2018 No.11287544 >>11287486 Starting by burning every Spinoza book on the planet, right?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 01:29:06 2018 No.11287624 >>11286704 Lol the Ethics is still considered heretical by most Jews and they still haven’t apologised for excommunicating him. In fact I’m pretty sure both Christians and Jews still to this day list the Ethics as an example of subversive lit.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 05:24:09 2018 No.11288238 >>11287468 >(((think))) I say this sums up the whole thing nicely.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 10:29:06 2018 No.11288957 >PROP. XXXIV. Every idea, which in us is absolute or adequate and perfect, is true. No wonder Nietzsche liked him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 12:00:11 2018 No.11289246 >>11287281 Which title?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 12:04:40 2018 No.11289268 >>11285878 >My ancestors founded Pennsylvania >Less than fifth of their descendants university is for them It's so disgusting.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 12:14:55 2018 No.11289312

>>11287468
>Spinoza
>having anything to do with Jews

Any attempt to connect him to some genetic Jewish worldview is intellectually dishonest. Any Jews usurping his work for their ends is just that, a usurping of his work. Spinoza is pantheistic, not Judaic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 13:08:54 2018 No.11289554 >That whole section towards the end where he "proves" the eternityof the mind What did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 13:16:53 2018 No.11289594 >>11289554 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l95NljBTEg

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 13:25:07 2018 No.11289647 Actually a based jew

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 13:48:46 2018 No.11289777 >>11289312 >Any attempt to connect him to some genetic Jewish worldview is intellectually dishonest. Any attempt to apply standards of European individualism to consanguinous, tribal desert semites is idiotic.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 13:53:31 2018 No.11289802 >>11289777 Why is it idiotic? He's part of the Western canon now.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 13:58:08 2018 No.11289836 >>11289312 I know. I was juat joking about how some people cant think about the text, like Ethics, so they need to go right into talking about the author's jewishness or whatever

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:00:34 2018 No.11289854 >>11289802 Ugh, no. Jews are middle easterners, they are not "western" and are not a part of our canon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:16:57 2018 No.11289966 >>11289854 I see no reason not to include him. His ideas have been noted as influential by others in the canon.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:23:24 2018 No.11290008 >>11289966 Then it's recommended you study the jewish question in more depth.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:24:56 2018 No.11290021 >>11290008 Will that make me want to be an intellectually dishonest historical revisionist as well?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:29:53 2018 No.11290060 >>11290021 No, it will help you actually understand the people who see you as their enemy instead of continuing to misunderstand their intentions and ideas by assuming they share your interests.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:33:24 2018 No.11290079 >>11290060 The people you're talking about excommunicated him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:35:31 2018 No.11290089 >>11290079 The same people later promoted him and have been ever since.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:38:53 2018 No.11290108 >>11290089 Who promotes him? Got any names?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:39:30 2018 No.11290112

>>11290060
he was exiled from the jewish community and fled the country you fucking moron. you were not even allowed to be jewish and spinozian. even if your conspiracy-theory was right then he was TOTALLY DISOWNED by the people running the plot. you are basically admitting that your theory is a logical mess and makes no historical sense whatsoever. spinoza was basically enemy number one of all abrahamic theology. spinoza was a pantheist; read a lot more.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:43:13 2018 No.11290133 >>11290108 >>11285559 >>11290112 The jewish community later adopted Spinoza's ideas and to today have promoted them as much as anyone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:44:58 2018 No.11290143 >>11290133 People promoting him have nothing to do with whether he deserves placement in the canon or not. Do you have any idea what the canon is even about? What qualifies someone to be there?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:47:57 2018 No.11290159

>>11290089
>The same people later promoted him
no, they were almost certainly dead by the time Spinoza was published. Spinoza didn't get any sort of credence for a couple hundred years, and even then it was mostly among the German Enlightenment and the rise of Idealism. He was far more important to thinkers like Hegel and Neitzsche than he was to any sort of Jewish theology. I really don't think you really understand what you are talking about.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 14:48:59 2018 No.11290166 >>11290133 see >>11290159 and read a biography on Spinoza while you are at it

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:01:03 2018 No.11290226

>>11290143
>People promoting him have nothing to do with whether he deserves placement in the canon
That is precisely why you think he does.

>>11290159
We're talking about the jewish community here. Spinoza's secular jewing was ahead of that of his tribal leaders, but they came around and have been lauding him and promoting him to goyim ever since.

Both of you are failing to understand the larger picture and make greater connections because, I assume, you have no awareness of how jews think and why they do what they do, and merely accept at face value their ideas from your own myopic European perspective. That's a mistake, jews don't think like you.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:05:03 2018 No.11290251

>>11290226
>That is precisely why you think he does.
I think he does because I understand the purpose of the canon, which is to select and preserve those who have served as essential components to the historical development of philosophy, while you don't seem to understand this part and seem willing to dismantle the tradition altogether.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:17:04 2018 No.11290311 >>11290251 You're talking about a non-western semite who you don't even understand because you can't put his ideas into context. You need to work on that before you talk about the greater framework in which you think people and ideas belong.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:19:20 2018 No.11290322 >>11290226 I haven't seen you in a while

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:26:40 2018 No.11290373 >>11290311 I'm talking about an individual who has been cited by names like Hegel, Leibniz, Goethe, Nietzsche, Deleuze, and others. >who you don't even understand This coming from the guy who doesn't understand what the canon's purpose even is.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:34:40 2018 No.11290416

>>11290226
you conveniently skipped the point about him being chiefly influential to two of the most lauded philosophers under the third riech, Hegel and Nietzsche, but whatever doesn't fit your narrative is easier to ignore I suppose. You should actually try and read Spinoza one day, I bet you'll be really surprised by the stuff that's in there. Can you please point to the big Spinozan revival in Jewish culture? It seems to me he's treated as a famous figure, a cultural icon from a bygone era, but not much more than that. He was absolutely influential on western philosophy as a whole (mostly German thought); that's undeniable. But I can't see an undeniable link to modern Jewish thought. I think you are exaggerating at best, or being intellectually dishonest at worst. Last (You) for you, I really hope you can open your mind a bit -- there is no perspective more myopic than anti-semitism, friend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:35:52 2018 No.11290421 >>11290311 >his ideas Can someone please talk about his ideas for a bit? These subverting jew accusations would be slightly more bearable if someone made a specific citation to the primary text anyone could plainly see.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:42:43 2018 No.11290453

>>11290373
See, you do not think for yourself; you let others think for you.

>>11290416
Spinoza is promoted to the goyim. Again you are equating the interests of two groups who are very different, whose differences you don't understand. I can only encourage you to try to change that and repeat how you will continue to not understand until you are able to do that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:45:02 2018 No.11290465 >>11290453 >See, you do not think for yourself; you let others think for you. Aren't you the guy that linked to that shitty occidental observer article though?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:45:47 2018 No.11290471

>>11290421
Spinoza thought that God (Deus sive Natura) exists as a being with infinite attributes. we experience two of those attributes in our world, namely thought and extension. Instead of getting caught up in arguments over the dualism of substance (mind and body), Spinoza posited that there is only one substance, God, and that we simply experience its attributes and modes (modes here meaning something like forms). He held to some form of determinism, although it was a little bit more nuanced of a view than traditional determinism (read about his Worm in the Blood analogy for more on this). His thought (usually Spinozaism was accounted with atheism and pantheism, both somewhat erroneously) was harshly punished by all faiths, people were routinely executed on charges of Spinozaism. Most of his work was published in a clandestine fashion by his close friends posthumously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 15:47:39 2018 No.11290487 >>11290453 >"they came around and have been lauding him and promoting him to goyim ever since" >can I have any evidence of that whatsoever? >"Spinoza is promoted to the goyim" I bet you were the darling of your debate club

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 16:08:04 2018 No.11290620 I'll read "L'Éthique" in a month or so, I can't wait to btfo everyone in this thread.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 16:18:33 2018 No.11290674 >>11290416 >Hegel >lauded under the third reich source?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 16:24:20 2018 No.11290712

>The Jew often plays the role of a benefactor only in order to accomplish his destructive aims without notice. It's always been that way. This ambiguity one finds even in Spinoza. One can hardly imagine a bolder, more outspoken world view than his; but his ethics would horrify a pig. 'In all things seek that which is advantageous' is the quintessence of his moral philosophy -- the genuine Jewish viewpoint.

Spinoza status: btfo

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 17:01:50 2018 No.11290862 >>11290712 If you can't handle entertaining that viewpoint, maybe you should stay away from reading philosophy, scrub. At least don't take it at face value, what is advantageous?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 17:11:04 2018 No.11290896 >>11290133 >The jewish community later adopted Spinoza's ideas and to today have promoted them Every fucking jew I encountered cannot stop talking about the unity of substance or about the parallelism of thought and extension.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 17:11:52 2018 No.11290901 >>11290712 >In all things seek that which is advantageous Sounds like basic survival instinct 101.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 17:21:32 2018 No.11290931 [DELETED]

>>11290896
Naturally. Jews are as hyper-tribal as whites are hyper-individualistic, and jews are as intellectually nepotistic as they have proven to be when stocking top to bottom formerly white institutions with jews. They are a human plague and are a bad fit for individualist, merit-based white societies, which is why they have to be removed again, as they have been for similar behavior hundreds of times before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 17:55:16 2018 No.11291060 >>11286078 boy do you seem mad

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:07:05 2018 No.11291135

>>11290931
>Jews are as hyper-tribal as whites are hyper-individualistic
There's exceptions in both categories. Spinoza was an exception, since he did not make claim to any exclusive access to God in his writings, i.e. he did away with tribes and focused on the individual experience. Meanwhile, any genuinely Protestant white is an exception there.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:07:09 2018 No.11291136

>>11291060
That's the jewish tribal instinct. There's no self-awareness among a people this tribal and inbred, which is why they remain under the delusion that their 359 expulsions have all been due to others' supposed 'anti-semitism' and have nothing to do with their own behavior and unlikability as a people.

Logic doesn't enter the discussion. They believe they are chosen and special and have a right to rule over others, when in reality they are simply an inbred tribe of sociopaths.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:13:22 2018 No.11291166 >>11285439 Kike

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:19:10 2018 No.11291197

>>11291135
Nope. And that's a very gullible attitude to take toward an alien people that mimics the behavior of their host. Viewing any jew on an individual basis is a mistake and Spinoza's ideas were very radical in his time because he was subverting the host culture. This is simply what jews do and it's foolish to take it at face value and not understand the likely intentions in light of what we know about jewish behavior generally.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:23:41 2018 No.11291224 >>11291197 Provide a reasoning for why Spinoza's ideas are apparently tribalistic besides "he's Jewish."

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:27:56 2018 No.11291239 >>11291224 He was attacking the host culture to weaken it and thus make it more susceptible to jewing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:29:08 2018 No.11291242 >>11291239 >He was attacking the host culture What was the attack?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:39:08 2018 No.11291303

>>11291242
He was attacking the host culture's norms and promoting pre-enlightenment, secular universalist values. I'm not religious and find Spinoza benign compared to many of his coethnics, but I'm trying to help whites understand his actions in the context of jewish subversive behavior generally, and highlight how you can't understand him in full otherwise, which is the case for all jews.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:41:21 2018 No.11291312 >>11291303 >secular Are you Christian?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:42:02 2018 No.11291319 >>11291303 What's wrong with enlightenment, secular universalist ideas?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:45:46 2018 No.11291342

>>11291312
No. And I view Christianity as the original, pre-liberal/enlightenment universalist ideology jews pushed on whites prior to jews like Spinoza promoting a secular version. I'm against all jews and all jewish universalist ideologies: jewish Christianity, jewish communism, and jewish liberalism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:47:39 2018 No.11291359 >>11291342 A real negative nancy in other words, you sure don't like a lot of things, complainy pants.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:48:36 2018 No.11291362

>>11291319
Judeo-universalism and these outsiders manipulating white societies in any way is the problem. Jews push universalist ideals because they allow jews space to come in and jew, or in the case of Christianity literally promote the worship of the jew.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:49:43 2018 No.11291374 >>11291342 What are you then? Why is secularism on your naughty list?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:50:03 2018 No.11291377 >>11291359 I'm a very positive person actually. Jews are big problem in the west right now though, and always have been, and it's important for whites to realize and understand this.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:51:09 2018 No.11291385 >>11291374 I'm just pro-white people until the jewish problem is dealt with.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:53:25 2018 No.11291401 >>11291385 There's a ton of whites not against secularism though. Whites even invented and coined the concept.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:53:41 2018 No.11291404 >>11291385 That didn't really answer his question, did it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 18:59:54 2018 No.11291432

>>11291401
>>11291404
I already said I was not religious, didn't I? I don't see why I have to be anything other than pro-white consciousness and pro-expulsion of jews from white societies. I want whites to get away from jewish universalism and focus on ourselves instead of trying to convert nonwhites to jewish universalist ideologies. I'm a White Particularist. That cool with you guys?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:02:12 2018 No.11291441

>>11291432
>I don't see why I have to be anything other than pro-white consciousness and pro-expulsion of jews from white societies.
Well, you mentioned "secular" in your list of negatives. That implies some kind of religious connection — why else would you say it?

I don't personally think you're pro-white. I think you're pro- something else.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:03:33 2018 No.11291449 File: 894 KB, 600x900, 1526075910929.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11291432 >That cool with you guys? no, idpol is shit tier political theory

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:07:24 2018 No.11291459 You guys got any Jewish reccs? I'm reading a few chapters (from his talks) by Freud and really enjoying it.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:09:13 2018 No.11291465

>>11291441
The context was a jew attacking the social norms of the time; there was no intended judgment regarding my particular opinions on those norms, which I later clarified being opposed to. I'm all for whites carving out a new ideology but we have to stop the millions of nonwhites flooding into our countries first and recognize that they are flooding in because our nations are run by jews.

>>11291449
I don't know what that means. I've never posted on pol and have been there less than 5 times in my life, all negative experiences.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:09:17 2018 No.11291466 >>11285439 Proto-Ayn Rand

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:09:32 2018 No.11291470 >>11291459 Not for philosophy, but I like Moorcock's Elric series. It's pulp trash but fun.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:13:56 2018 No.11291485

>>11291465
>The context was a jew attacking the social norms of the time; there was no intended judgment regarding my particular opinions on those norms, which I later clarified being opposed to.
So why are you opposed to his attack on the religious social norms at the time if you don't actually oppose the secularism of his stance? Wouldn't you be agreeing with him on that part then?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:14:00 2018 No.11291486 >>11291465 >anti-semite >doesn't know what identity politics is >novalis.jpg you outed your absolute lack of an education for the millionth time, please leave the literature board and never come back

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:14:19 2018 No.11291490 >>11287430 >implying the world works in a specific intelligible way? Want to know the common root of love, society, aesthetics and gravitation? da joooz man

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:15:15 2018 No.11291497 >>11291490 every great question of being is contained within an analysis of Jewish shenanigans

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:17:13 2018 No.11291509 >>11291485 I'm against that jewish religion having been imposed upon Europeans in the first place. I already made this clear. >>11291486 >anti-semite You can't use fake terms and expect to be taken seriously.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:18:18 2018 No.11291514 >>11291136 >>11291060 inbred inbred inbred tribe tribe tribe 359 359 359 me no likey argument momma

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:22:18 2018 No.11291532 >>11291509 sorry, let me use your special noun, it actually works even better >"White Particularist" >doesn't know what identity politics is >novalis.jpg

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:24:08 2018 No.11291542

>>11291509
>I'm against that jewish religion having been imposed upon Europeans in the first place. I already made this clear.
What you made clear is that you didn't like Spinoza's "secular" attack on Europe, or, according to what you're saying now, merely the attack on Europe at the time in general. But you don't support what Europe believed then, by your admission of saying that you aren't religious. So what are you defending? More importantly, why do you CARE to defend something that you don't actually support? And why do you not consider the people who "attacked" (which, for the writer like Spinoza, is merely the act of criticizing formally) those norms to be part of the movement which created the change in society which brings you today to your natural secularism?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:31:27 2018 No.11291577 >>11291532 That's better, kike. >>11291542 The contradiction you're seeking to highlight doesn't exist. I can be opposed to jewish ideology 1 and jewish ideology 2 at the same time.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 19:46:39 2018 No.11291652

>>11291577
>I can be opposed to jewish ideology 1 and jewish ideology 2 at the same time.
You can't support contradictory ideologies though. You say you aren't against secularism, but then consider Spinoza's secularism a danger to white society. Unless you are self-hating and secretly WISH you weren't secular, it makes no sense to consider his secularism a danger to white society.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 20:02:11 2018 No.11291734

>>11291652
You're an idiot. Jews are a danger to every society they inhabit because whatever they are promoting is intended to weaken the host and thus benefit jews by inverting the norms of that society. There is no objective good or bad, jews always promote the opposite of whatever is normal because their strategy is based on creating divisions. When jews entered European and Egyptian pagan societies they pushed monotheism; when jews like Spinoza were allowed to enter Christian society they began pushing secularism, and so on. The jew is an anti-person, it does not care about good or bad, its only objective is to subvert, divide, and weaken the host because that strengthens the hand of the jew.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 20:16:18 2018 No.11291805

>>11291734
YOU are the idiot who clearly doesn't understand the value of the immoralist in the world, even when he previously sided with and fought for something that now exists and thrives and that you stand for today (secularism in this case, unless you lied about not having a problem with it). You don't deserve to live in the west with that attitude.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 20:23:39 2018 No.11291843 >>11291805 You are being dishonest and your argument is weak. I have made it very clear what I am for and against.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 20:26:09 2018 No.11291857 >>11291843 >I have made it very clear what I am for and against. You seem against immorality in general, which is incredibly naive and stupid.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 20:30:12 2018 No.11291878 >>11291857 I don't even know what you're talking about anymore. I'm against jews and their presence in white countries.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 20:35:47 2018 No.11291912

>>11291878
Then your problem is you identify too strongly with a single abstraction, in this case "white." If you identify with it so much that you're against literally anything that is an attack on it, even when you yourself occupy the position of the attacker, something's wrong. That's a neurosis.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:04:49 2018 No.11292060

>>11291912
No. Jews are tribal-minded group that is attacking my group, so I am trying to increase awareness of this alien group's actions and encourage a more tribal mentality in my own group. You don't want whites to become aware of such things because you're a jew and you know that's bad for jews. The jig's up though, and the next part is where your people get kicked the fuck out like you have been so many times before.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:06:16 2018 No.11292069 >>11292060 >No. >Proceeds to confirm yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:06:17 2018 No.11292070 >>11285824 Pretty sure Kevin MacDonald was a tenured professor at a Cal State university until recently.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:09:39 2018 No.11292084 >>11292069 You're a jew. No one expects you to do anything but defend your tribe. I'm just here to tell you it's not going to work.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:10:44 2018 No.11292087
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>>11285997
I've seen averages for Ashkenazi Jewish IQ range from 104 to 117, standard deviations that range from 10 to 15, etc. If the distribution of Ashkenazi IQ is anywhere but at the very top of estimates, then they are wholly over-represented in positions of power by merit alone. And given that the average IQ of Israel is measured in the low 90s, US Ashkenazi IQ probably isn't going to be 117 with 15 standard deviation. Besides, when you choose some other metric, such as the distribution of SAT scores, you still find Jews to be overrepresented relative to Asians, which are underrepresented, and non-Jewish whites, which are extremely underrepresented.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:12:18 2018 No.11292090 >>11292084 >Jews are tribal-minded and I'm trying to encourage a more tribal mentality in my own group, but you're the jew >have an argument I can't win with my wits? better just call you a jew! Gotcha. Have fun with that neurosis of yours.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:14:30 2018 No.11292104 >>11292090 You lost and were embarrassed. Lick your wounds, move on, and prepare to make aliya, kike.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:18:21 2018 No.11292128 >>11292104 >You lost Well, anyone would against a solipsistic nut like you. I still think you're a Christian, because you argue like one, i.e. you don't.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:19:52 2018 No.11292136
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>>11292090
There are more Jews than non-Jews at top colleges, even though high IQ whites outnumber high IQ Jews by more than 3-to-1. I understand that you're dealing with either a particularly dumb white nationalist /pol/ migrant or an obnoxious /lit/ pseudonationalist troll (probably the latter, nobody talks like this on /pol/), but you're factually wrong on this issue. Wake the fuck up.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:20:13 2018 No.11292138 >>11292128 You're going in the oven for real this time. The goyim know.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:21:20 2018 No.11292140 File: 57 KB, 716x501, JewishDeputies.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11292138 Shut the fuck up you utter brainlet. You're terrible at arguing for the Jewish question, and you make the work of people like me much harder than it has to be.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:22:25 2018 No.11292147 What the hell is up with this guy lmao.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:22:34 2018 No.11292149 >>11292140 W Excuse me? Who the fuck are you?

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:22:54 2018 No.11292153 >>11292136 >you're factually wrong on this issue. What "facts" do you think I brought to the table here? Do you even know what the discussion's been about?

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:41:19 2018 No.11292219
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>>11292149
Stop pretending to be a retarded white nationalist. There are too many newfag /lit/izens who fall for that shit, and it ruins threads. If you are a dyed-in-the-wool white nationalist, then read a fucking book that isn't Culture of Critique you mongoloid.

>>11292153
>What "facts" do you think I brought to the table here?
None. Jewish over-representation by population and merit is a foregone conclusion at this point. Only wishful thinking rules it otherwise.

The key to determining whether there is overrepresentation by merit is to look at the distribution of IQ within the United States, and when it comes to Ashkenazi Jews, the measurements are all over the place (though far from the extremes necessary to rule out nepotism). The highest estimates of Jewish IQ are from people like Kevin MacDonald, who puts the number at 117, and that's because he has a particular narrative about "Jewish insidiousness" as an "evolutionary strategy" that he wants to push. I personally don't find MacDonald to be convincing. Most of the studies that I've seen, post The Bell Curve, place the number somewhere around 105-110, and the SD around 10-13. With those numbers, and with the current population of Ashkenazi Jews, you get 3-5x the number of high IQ, non-Jewish whites compared to high IQ Jews. And yet, Jews outnumber whites at Ivy League schools, which allows them to crowd-out the vast majority of the country in important national institutions.

It is clear as day that Jews are overrepresented unfairly. A massive amount of the country doesn't have a voice in government while 3% of the population has an overwhelming influence. And something needs to be done about it before the ethnic, class, racial tensions start tearing our country apart.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:52:37 2018 No.11292244

>>11292219
>None.
Want to know why? Because the discussion wasn't about any of this. The THREAD is not about this. It was about the other guy's intellectual dishonesty and trying to convince people that Spinoza does not belong in the Western philosophical canon, which is a bunch of dumb bullshit to anyone interested in real philosophy.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:56:35 2018 No.11292260

>>11292219
what's your thoughts on deblasio trying to eliminate entrance exams for elite nyc public schools like stuyvesant because chinese are overrpresented and "whites" also, the new schools chancellor says "no one owns those schools" and has proposed requiring certain quotas of black and hispanic students, is deblasio just a racist bringing back the old "yellow peril" trope, or is he bringing social justice to a rigged entrance requirement (score highly on an objective exam)

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 21:58:48 2018 No.11292270

>>11292244
Oh yeah I probably would agree that sperging about any Jew just because he's Jewish is really stupid. Baruch is an intriguing, if not esoteric, philosopher. I'm not an expert on him, unfortunately, so I can't contribute much.

It would have been nice to have had an informative thread about him, but you morons took the bait of a clear /lit/ troll pretending to be a /pol/ migrant. How do I know? None of these people talk like a typical /pol/ poster. Sometimes, these people are so off that they come across as alt-lite instead of alt-right. It's embarrassing.

If you people weren't so easily triggered, you'd have nice things, like a comfy /lit/ discussion about Spinoza and metaphysics. You reap what you sow. It's just like when a good /pol/ thread is ruined by /pol/acks sperging at an obvious troll (usually with a memeflag or Israeli proxy) for the dopamine rush.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:00:10 2018 No.11292275

>>11292260
I don't follow NYC politics, sorry. But DeBlasio is probably trying his hardest to ignore the realities of race and genetics (and I guess culture but you're not even allowed to criticize that either and group culture is partially determined by people who share similar genes anyway).

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:00:40 2018 No.11292279

>>11292219
You burst in at the tail end of a discussion and don't even know what it was about. Even the jew itt acknowledged that. So in the future try to hold your tongue a bit longer or at least don't jump in and start insulting people who may be doing just as good a job (and in this case, a better one) at spreading information about the jewish problem. Because you did no good in this particular case, friend.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:02:25 2018 No.11292287 >>11292270 you sound like a retarded car salesman you insect

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:03:53 2018 No.11292292 >>11292270 You really need to learn when to shut the fuck up and stay out of conversations. The jew who got embarrassed up and down this thread is even telling you you're out of your realm.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:08:22 2018 No.11292316

>>11292279
>Because you did no good in this particular case, friend.
All you're really doing is entertaining me while I watch movies on another screen. And if you think you'll ever change my mind with the crap you're pushing, you're dreaming. Nietzsche would slap you red for selling something so distasteful in what should have been a philosophy thread.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:11:18 2018 No.11292323

>>11292287
>WAAAAAH LET ME WHINE ABOUT DUH EBIL NAHZEES MORE
Shut the fuck up you insufferable faggot. There are almost no /pol/acks on /lit/ who aren't just edgy trolls aping /pol/acks with minimum effort invested. Only low IQ morons get baited this hard.
>>11292292
>>11292279
Listen, you can quit with the LARPing now. Nobody who doesn't have their head stuck up their ass believes that you are a legitimate white nationalist. And even if you are legitimate, your arguments for the case are so laughably irrational that you only hurt your own side.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:17:07 2018 No.11292349

>>11292316
Are you the jew who's been getting his ass handed to him or someone else?

>>11292323
You need to exercise a bit more discretion next time. Have patience and try to understand what's going on before you start flinging shit at people exposing the jewish problem and making them look stupid in conversation.

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:21:12 2018 No.11292367

>>11285929
>they perform better on standardized tests than goys
Wrong. The % of exceptional jews (as tested in High schools) is directly proportionate to the total population of jews in the US, 3%. The only reason they are so widely accepted in "prestigious" universities is because of nepotism.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:22:11 2018 No.11292370 >>11292349 I'm the guy who called Andrew Joyce out for having a poor understanding of Nietzsche and provided several arguments ITT that you skirted around. "The jew," in your imagination.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:23:07 2018 No.11292372 >>11285997 Remove the french and anglo from the IQ tests and the average white scores will compare to those of ashkenazis (not actual jews of biblical times which are ethnically extinct).

Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:24:16 2018 No.11292374

>>11292349
>You need to exercise a bit more discretion next time. Have patience and try to understand what's going on before you start flinging shit at people exposing the jewish problem and making them look stupid in conversation.
You were not exposing jack shit. If anything, you were burying the problem with your stupid LARPing and refusal to make clear arguments based off of psychometrics and the established scientific literature. You're an embarrassment to all of us if you aren't just a troll.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:27:21 2018 No.11292390 >>11292374 No one has been arguing about IQ for hours itt. You literally don't know what's going on. Heed the advice I gave you so you don't make this same mistake again.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:31:27 2018 No.11292403 >>11292390 I don't give a shit about what some wignat thinks. You're a fucking loser who should have been gassed after Charlottesville. Now fuck off.

>>	Anonymous Fri Jun 8 22:55:08 2018 No.11292491 >>11285929 >>11285997 spotted the rootless transnational cosmopolitan

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 01:29:17 2018 No.11292896 Bumo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 05:54:15 2018 No.11293698 >>11285439 >Dude who copied Descartes and mixed him with edgy atheism so hard that he accidentally re-created zombie Stoicism But y tho

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 07:53:42 2018 No.11294035 I FUCKING HATE POL SO MUCH THAT I'M GOING TO MARRY A BLACK WOMAN AND GIVE MONEY TO JEWS AND VOTE FOR EVEN THE SCUMMIEST SHILLARY LIBERALS, I CAN'T STAND THIS FUCKING SHITPOSTING ANYMORE.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 08:06:57 2018 No.11294076 >>11294035 So you're going to get a wife with a big nice ass, and a welfare safety net. That's a real tragedy anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 12:30:03 2018 No.11294916 reeee /pol/ ruins everything get out

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 14:43:40 2018 No.11295722

>>11294035
>/pol/
You mean a /lit/ shitposter aping a /pol/ impersonation, right? Stop taking the bait and they'll go away, retard. Gullible faggots like you are just as responsible for the pollution of this board as the "/pol/"tards. If it nobody took the shitty bait and didn't give them (You)s, they'd go away. Simple solution.

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 14:50:47 2018 No.11295763

>>11295722
that actually is a /pol/ poster, the one who says “these jews” is an actual lunatic, the other one is a WN propagandist and the rest are retarded /pol/ migrants from reddit, there are only two or three fake redpill posters and they’re really bad at pretending to be /pol/, the kevin macdonald fag and the “these jews” retard are serious. should still ignore them. also at risk of escalation, you’re an anti-semite /pol/ retard

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 14:56:44 2018 No.11295786 >>11295763 >the kevin macdonald fag and the “these jews” retard are serious. Probably not. Compare their writing styles with any random sample from /pol/. It looks like a more sophisticated LARP to me, but still a LARP nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 14:58:05 2018 No.11295788 File: 11 KB, 300x168, hyper kant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11285544 No.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 14:58:46 2018 No.11295792 >>11295786 no he's actually serious, he comes here every two or three weeks and starts shitting up the board

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:15:15 2018 No.11295871

>Sees Spinoza Thread
Oooh nice, wonder what is /lit/'s take on him
>Sees 200+ Replies
Damn, there must have been some serious intellectual debate here, can't wait to read through this thread
>Scrolls down the thread and sees it's all a retarded debate about Jews
Can we ban anyone who has ever posted on /pol/ from this board?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:17:10 2018 No.11295880 >>11295871 Would be better to ban jews and posters who are too low IQ to understand the JQ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:19:05 2018 No.11295884 >>11295880 Go burn some "Jewish Books" you fucking skinhead retard, you shitted up a perfectly good thread with your autism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:25:02 2018 No.11295912 >>11295884 Get the fuck off this board you bluepilled faggot. This is not reddit, we discuss the JQ here, deal with that or leave.

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:28:55 2018 No.11295931

>>11295786
nah mate been here for long enough to recognize him; there is anti-kafkanon, macdonald spammer, siege retard, these jews sophist, and then a rotatig group of twitter/pol/ who post here, the frog twitter lunatics who lurk and post occassionally, the tradfags, the antisemitic catholics, boomer antisemite, and then finally 3-5 dedicated shitposters+/tv/ posters who are pretending to be /pol/

the one who says: try the redpills is a LARPer but is trying to entertain the board and there are a few others who LARP who are legitimate sociopaths.

if it turned out MacDonaldfag or Kafkafag were actually LARPfags they’d be worthy of some type of reward i think for that level of dedication over years of shitposting.

also the “whites only board” poster is serious but there are people imitating him constantly

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:31:11 2018 No.11295943 >>11295931 accurate summary but you forgot a couple of notables

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:33:03 2018 No.11295953

>>11295912
Spinoza has nothing to do with the JQ, he lived before the Jewish Emancipation. At a time where Judaism was a religious identity and not a national/ethnic one. antisemitism at the time was mainly based around the whole "Jews killed Jesus" thing and not ethnic antisemitism which would only develop in the 18th century.

During Spinoza's time, converting from Judaism would "Dejewify" you in the eyes of others and in your own eyes too. You will be surprised how many Europeans today are descendants of Medieval Jewish converts.

Now Spinoza not only converted away from Judaism, but he was fucking excommunicated from the faith an "honor" awarded to only a few individuals, there was not much more a Medieval Jew could do to distance himself from the faith.

Now that we have hopefully established that Spinoza had nothing to do with a greater "Jewish Plot", can we please talk about his actual fucking ideas?

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:35:01 2018 No.11295962

>>11295931
You post way too often, given what you know about alt-right circles (hell I don't even know what these twitter communities are), and you probably think multiple people are the same persona. Culture of Critique is a big meme in alt-right circles. The anti-Kafka shit is funny because it's so provocative. If you don't think people are copying that for (You)s, you're naive.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:40:40 2018 No.11295990 >>11295931 You should probably spend less time on here. You're also probably wrong about most of those assumptions anyway and give off a hasbara internet policeman vibe trying to document all this stuff in the first place.

Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:42:24 2018 No.11295996

>>11295962
yes i kno everything you said it doesn’t change what i said, i am acutely aware of CoC’s meme status as well as Siege, which is why neither is mentioned among the public part of the alt right, im also aware of mimics, its just there are dedicated serious anti-semites on /lit/ who have mental illnesses or autism. not that it matters they do a good job of alienating people from /pol/‘s message and are probably not important to whatever groups they shill for or at the very least feel they are representing. its just an observation

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:43:28 2018 No.11295999 >>11295990 >hasbara oldfag /pol/nigger

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 15:49:56 2018 No.11296031 >>11295996 >anti-semites Semites cause antisemitism, it's not a flaw in nonsemites.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 19:57:01 2018 No.11297319 bump 4 jews btfo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 20:00:18 2018 No.11297333 >>11296031 Modern antisemitism is a consequence of Semitic ideological possession.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jun 9 21:50:45 2018 No.11297746 >>11297333 That description seems to better describe liberalism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 10 01:44:37 2018 No.11298521 >>11297746 Liberalism has a much richer history than the Semitic virtues.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 10 01:49:50 2018 No.11298534 File: 147 KB, 419x466, 9937739.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11298521 >Semitic virtues

>>	Anonymous Sun Jun 10 01:56:11 2018 No.11298548 >>11298534 #NotMyVirtues

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/lit/ - Literature