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>That 21 year old boomer self-diagnosing as a Platonist after reading Republic

>> No.11280813

>>11280806
I knew I was a platonist before I ever read a word of Plato.

>> No.11280816

>>11280813
did you use the work platonist?

>> No.11280828

>>11280816
No.

>> No.11281261

>>11280806
You should never self-diagnose. If you have insurance, visit your local philosopher and get a professional opinion.

>> No.11281267

>>11281261
My local philosopher is a Kantian, I'll stay put.

>> No.11281279

I self-diagnosed as a christian existentialist. I imagine myself happy.

>> No.11281294

>>11281279
Get back to your boulder.

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>>11281294

>> No.11281464

>>11280806
Unironically me

>> No.11281735

>>11281302
is htis loss

>> No.11282350

>>11280806
>read the Republic
>realise it's all just proto-fascism
My God I hope Platon was ironic when he wrote all this shit.

>> No.11282351

>>11281261
My local philosopher keeps telling that I should let him play with my hair and bum

>> No.11282365

>>11280806
>start to read Republic
>realize it's all outdated bullshit written by a guy who thought stars had souls
>realize I could read a book on physics instead and actually learn something useful
>do that instead
I get secondhand embarrassment whenever I hear someone taking Plato seriously

>> No.11282381

>>11282350
I honestly believe he was. There's one passage in The Republic that I think gives it away:

"How, then," he replied, "can it be right to say that our cities will never be freed from their evils until the philosophers, whom we admit to be useless to them, become their rulers?"

"Your question," I said, "requires an answer expressed in a comparison or parable."

"And you," he said, "of course, are not accustomed to speak in comparisons!"

"So," said I, "you are making fun of me after driving me into such an impasse of argument. But, all the same, hear my comparison so that you may still better see how I strain after imagery. For so cruel is the condition of the better sort in relation to the state that there is no single thing like it in nature. But to find a likeness for it and a defence for them one must bring together many things in such a combination as painters mix when they portray goat-stags and similar creatures."

>> No.11282383

>>11282365
What can you tell me about the AdS/CFT correspondence?

>> No.11282513

>>11282381
Sure sounds like it. Thanks for bringing this passage up.

>> No.11283205

>>11282365
How is reading physics book more useful than reading philosophy book?

>> No.11283218

>use the republic as inspiration for authoritarian marxist-leninism
nothing personal, right-wing bros. :^)

>> No.11284215

>>11282365
Physics is great as a model of the physical reality of the world, but thats about it. Most modern physics is concerned with minute details that are imo pretty uninteresting and useless to someone who isnt concerned with the marginal improvements they may provide to a niche technology. I'd also add that from my experience taking physics at uni, nearly all physicists are extremely unsociable, disconnected from the human experience, and uninterested in any serious investigation into
any pertinent questions except through the sterile, reductionist framework they're immersed in.

>> No.11284230

>>11284215
Not to mention many things are probably incorrect anyway.