/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11279466]

Why is it important to know that everything is a spook? How does that benefit my life in any way? It's just as useless as nihilism.

[Anonymous No.11279472]

>>11279466
>It's just as useless as a spook

[Anonymous No.11279475]

benefit and nihilism are spooks

[Anonymous No.11279481]

>>11279472
>>11279475

[Anonymous No.11279482]

>>11279466
because it gives you more individual control.

[Anonymous No.11279487]

>>11279466
You know what's funny is we really don't know what Max Stirner actually looked like so that pic might actually be close to what he really looked like i mean we can't be sure if he didn't look like a cute anime girl haha

[Anonymous No.11279491]

>>11279482
how?

[Anonymous No.11279494]

Read the entire fucking book. Spooks are only so much. The ego is only so much. Stirner's unique is a mystical quantity and he gives many tips for practically achieving and living it.

[OP is subhuman No.11279497]

>>11279466
reminder: girl stirner was made by the left because the left was fetishizing traps more aggressively than the right, and was grooming teenage boys for sex more aggressively than the right. the left wing is filled with pedophiles and closet faggots, also as we already know, sex pests

[Anonymous No.11279506]

>>11279497
t.

[Anonymous No.11279533]

>>11279491
Because being aware that ideas hold power over you allows you to dismiss their power over you as you like.

[Anonymous No.11279561]

>>11279482
>>11279533
begone h*manists

[Anonymous No.11279591]

>>11279482
Disgusting indivi*UAL-toid.

[Anonymous No.11279597]

>>11279561

>a continental murderer gets to tell anyone their business
>ever

[Anonymous No.11279653]

>>11279466
Knowing why you are doing something is a prerequisite to personal freedom
If you walk into a mall, and you're hungry, then choose to go to get a whopper(tm) somebody might ask you 'why choose that whopper when you have so many options?'
'i like whoppers' you might reply
'but there are so many other options, options that you like as much, if not better, than burger king'
'well i felt in the mood for it'

sure, you felt in the mood for it because you've been watching ads for the whopper, how satisfying it looks to bite into and the beautiful girls who shared that same experience, but that's not conscious when making a choice - really a whopper is unhealthy for you and there are better alternatives for you (in terms of both taste, price, and health)
now, when a young man goes to enlist in the army or dives into the ocean to help a drowning child he might say 'these are good things to do', but why are they good things to do? if they're in his interests and he understands that then he is acting as an voluntary egoist, because certainly their are reasons to do both that benefit you, materially or emotionally
On the other hand, he might believe that these are altruistic or self sacrificing actions, not done for himself but in the service of others, then this man is an involuntary egoist, performing the same action but ignorant to himself
Sartre could point to an injured child, and a normal person might feel pain or pity or a desire to help that child, but is that desire to help in the service of the child? Really the helping relieves you of a feeling of discomfort (helping the child or not caring about the child have the same practical outcome for you) and the choice of whether to help or not is in the interests of making yourself feel better emotionally and/or morally to a higher degree than it is about the child's own pain (which you cannot experience directly)
Without understanding why you are making the choices you're making, or why you want the things you want, you're not free at all - though potentially you have nearly limitless choices, you've still chosen to eat at a shitty burger chain and then lie to yourself about why you did that

[Anonymous No.11279699]

>>11279466
Allows you to become more yourself and to know yourself better. Stops you from becoming a dogmatic ideologue.

[Anonymous No.11279955]

Utility is a spook.

[Anonymous No.11279960]

>>11279653
>sure, you felt in the mood for it because you've been watching ads for the whopper, how satisfying it looks to bite into and the beautiful girls who shared that same experience, but that's not conscious when making a choice - really a whopper is unhealthy for you and there are better alternatives for you (in terms of both taste, price, and health)
>now, when a young man goes to enlist in the army or dives into the ocean to help a drowning child he might say 'these are good things to do', but why are they good things to do? if they're in his interests and he understands that then he is acting as an voluntary egoist, because certainly their are reasons to do both that benefit you, materially or emotionally
this is so dumb

[Anonymous No.11280143]

>>11279699
Sounds like a good worldview. Can I read him right away or do I have to read previosu shit to understand what he writes?

[Anonymous No.11280194]

Reminder that Rand's Anticoncept>Stirner's Spook

[Anonymous No.11280200]

>spook spook spook spook spook spook
That's all I see on this board constantly. Striner barely even says the word "spook" in The Ego and his Own. Stop pretending to have real philosophers based on memes you have seen.

[Anonymous No.11280244]

>>11279466
Stirner's """philosophy""" is a mere hypothesis, the ego itself is a spook.
Another fella from the 19th Century, often being associated with Stirner, managed to
rebrand Gnosticism and hence can be used as means to seek the Sophia perennis, under whose banner both the Übermensch and every other theist alights.

[Anonymous No.11280439]

>>11279653
>freedom

[Anonymous No.11280461]

>>11279487
man, this would make reading his books so much more pleasant. I couldn't control my lust, imagining his cute loli hands writing philosophical works.

[Anonymous No.11280526]

>>11279487

[Anonymous No.11280731]

>>11279653
So egoism is just a form of honesty?

[Anonymous No.11280738]

>>11279497
yet rural people are more likely to molest children, and they're almost all conservatives

[Anonymous No.11280757]

but /lit/, what is a "spook"?

[Anonymous No.11280814]

How do i deal with the spook that I'm 27 and don't have any real accomplishments

[Anonymous No.11280820]

>>11280526
Beckett.

[Anonymous No.11281586]

>>11279960
Nice criticism

[Anonymous No.11281591]

>>11280757
A spook is an idea

[Anonymous No.11281609]

>>11280814
there are two obvious angles to de-spook, you could past age and question the nature of time and self, you could also take apart the notion of accomplishment. anon if you want to be an egoist you get to define what accomplishment means.

[Anonymous No.11281614]

>>11279466
>realize that all of life is pain olympics, doing things you are told to do for reasons you are told are greater than you. Live your life a slave to society and strangers who see you as nothing more than a beast of burden with no end in sight.
>Anyone who points this out is stoopid :)
Have a kick-ass summer dude! I'll see you next semester!

[Anonymous No.11281618]

>>11281609

ah jeez i don't even care anymore most people's accomplishments are mundane as hell and i already tried and failed at wage slavery so i guess i will just really stop caring since the only reason to get a decent paying job is for material possessions and i don't want them

[Anonymous No.11281696]

>>11281618
He says as he types on a computer

[Anonymous No.11281722]

>>11281696

i phoneposted that actually

[Anonymous No.11281730]

>>11281722
A phone is a computer if you're going to get pedantic

[Anonymous No.11281864]

>>11281730

okay fine beyond a few material possessions i already have i do not desire much else

[Anonymous No.11282445]

>>11279960
ur dum
>>11280731
yes, in the service of making better making choices for yourself

[Anonymous No.11282524]

>>11280143
you'll miss some things and some inside jokes about Hegel and the like, but you'll be fine diving into it

[Anonymous No.11282570]

>>11279653
Are you kidding me? This is what Stirner is about? This has been my own worldview or rather my personal struggle about ethics for years. Gonna give ego and its own a chance now!