/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.11278212]

Spies in our Midst Edition.
>there are "intellectuals" in our thread discrediting our genre books
>recommend fun sff books to chase them out

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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Previous Threads:
>>11263143
>>11253249
>>11244676
>>11235854
>>11223599

[Anonymous No.11278328]

Why do people say The Wise Man's Fear is a mess. It's gigantic book with many sub-plots, in my opinion its great. I don't want Rothfuss to rush anything. We need to thoroughly examine Kvothe's path to Mary Sue which was introduced long time ago. He's just that kind of character, its hardly bad plot/writing if first 100 pages of Name of the Wind mention he has uncommon talent for everything he sets his mind on. The style is pretty good too, he keeps his high quality standard all the way through. I liked everything so far, maybe Adem training part was boring, but still. Why does he randomly have so much sex, he's like 16 ffs. Fae part was good and made sense though.

Denna parts and her character are also increasing total value of this work, its sometimes heart breaking too. Fugg I didn't even realize what she was until it was explicitly said, I mistook it for something else.

[Anonymous No.11278364]

brandon sanderson is a an individual of questionable writing-skill and most certainly a person of hedonistic tendencies towards the wrong sex.

[Anonymous No.11278373]

How are the Impulse: Adventures of Captain Cockering books?

[Anonymous No.11278413]

>>11278364

[Anonymous No.11278419]

There is literally nothing wrong with having non-white people in your book

[Anonymous No.11278430]

>>11278419

[Anonymous No.11278441]

>>11278419
Exactly!
Hook-nosed dwarves and other lesser races deserve their spotlight too. Dont even listen to >>11278430 he/she/the are just a butt hurt booliman

[Anonymous No.11278454]

>>11278441
I’m sorry anon but there are no dwarves, just various weird humans.

[Anonymous No.11278470]

>>11278454
I thought you said they weren't white? little contradictory don't you think?

[Anonymous No.11278472]

>>11278441
>not wanting to get shitfaced and have fist fights with dwarven women just before you introduce them to the superior human D.

[Anonymous No.11278483]

>>11278472
I admire your charitable soul but holy shit that's degenerate and worthy of asphyxiation on the cross.

[Anonymous No.11278490]

>>11278470
Most of the stranger humans are white actually.

[Anonymous No.11278493]

>>11278364
This has really taken flight

[Anonymous No.11278494]

>>11278419
Wrong.

[Anonymous No.11278500]

>>11278430
t. el donaldo

[Anonymous No.11278505]

>>11278419
absolutely if they fit naturally in the story and actually have a purpose and more to them beyond lel look at me im not white.
im getting seriously tired of people shoving diversity down my throat if i dont want it. and whenever i point this shit out its automatically "lol get back to /pol/ faggot".

[Anonymous No.11278507]

>>11278505
>shoving it down my throat

Lmao, just put the book down faggot

[Anonymous No.11278519]

>>11278507
Why is he eating a Sanderson book?

[Anonymous No.11278520]

>>11278507
id love to. its kinda hard though when this shit is in every piece of media and every hobby.

[Anonymous No.11278523]

>>11278507
yeah put it down your throat faggot

[Anonymous No.11278533]

>>11278520
This, especially from the newer stuff.

[Anonymous No.11278535]

>>11278520
Maybe you're just a paranoid weirdo, ever think about that?

>>11278519
To become a homosexual charlatan

>>11278523
This

[Anonymous No.11278537]

>>11278212

was thinking about burning through a fantasy book, a speedy chunk of reading. any suggestions

[Anonymous No.11278544]

>>11278537
Do you want a good, a mediocre or a shit book?

[Anonymous No.11278555]

>>11278535
No need to be mean.

[Anonymous No.11278560]

>>11278537
Prince of Thorns is a speedy read. I'm brainlet (how do you do) and i finished it in 2 days.

[Anonymous No.11278576]

>>11278535
>Maybe you're just a paranoid weirdo, ever think about that?
>weirdo
oh absolutely
>paranoid
most definitely
its kinda hard to deny this shit though when so many other people also notice this and complain about it. and when they complained theyre called racists, nazis or white which for all intents and purposes seem to be completely interchangable as insults.
its really stupid to deny this shit at this point.

[Anonymous No.11278592]

>>11278483
>not wanting those hips
You probably gay desu.

[Anonymous No.11278617]

>>11278592
she honestly looks disgusting.
t. 2D fappaholic

[Anonymous No.11278620]

>>11278576
Yes anon, there's a lot of people that are paranoid weirdos and they are easily infiltrated by conniving cunts preying on their insecurities. Those cunts are nazis. The place this happened is a Gyol Nenuphar Smelling Fishing House.

[Anonymous No.11278621]

post pictures of your favorite /sffg/ females and why they are it.
only criteria. non humans only.
GO.

[Anonymous No.11278627]

>>11278544

i get overly attracted to nice prose and my reading speed tends to slow, that's been happening right now with my regular reading, so something with flow. i think warp/lev grossman if that can be considered fantasy, maybe not but it's still genreshit, was the last i read, definitely fit the bill superfast read

>>11278560

i had to look it up, but i think i mightve read its first half a year ago, was the main guy an edgy teen, was the prose, or maybe tone, sort of overly explosive, masculine. i wasnt feeling it i dont think

[Anonymous No.11278629]

>>11278576
I can’t really think of anyone brown or black in stormlight though, beyond slave boy kaladin I guess

[Anonymous No.11278632]

is the last chronological book in the witcher series lady of the lake, as bad as i've heard?

[Anonymous No.11278635]

>>11278621
like i can think of one

[Anonymous No.11278652]

>>11278621
Just because they’re none human doesn’t make a roastie any better

[Anonymous No.11278654]

>>11278627
>overly explosive, masculine

[Anonymous No.11278678]

are human protagonists generally prefrerred over non humans in fantasy?

[Anonymous No.11278684]

>>11278629
Dalinar?
Anyway, brown people so I will have to pass.

[Anonymous No.11278722]

>>11278684
Honestly I always just assume people are white or olive unless they directly say brown or black. Besides Dalinar is a light eyes, of course he’s white

[Anonymous No.11278725]

Fuck this place

[Anonymous No.11278740]

>>11278725
Frail, just go read a book and come back

[Anonymous No.11278753]

>>11278678
>do humans prefer reading about humans, regardless of genre
yes anon. if the book does not focus on humans it likely has nothing of value to communicate to the writer's race.

[Anonymous No.11278758]

Just marathoned this book, pretty good. Personally as an engineer I love the descriptions he uses for how he imagined robots would work in a non-digital future

[Anonymous No.11278776]

>>11278753
well wouldnt strong human supporting characters be able to compensate for a non-human mc?

[Anonymous No.11278801]

>>11278753
I never get why people always need to have a relatable/similar to them charecter. Though maybe my empathy is fucked up or something.

[Anonymous No.11278825]

>>11278801
they're plebs who have yet to ascend

[Anonymous No.11278863]

>>11278776
>>11278801
>>11278825
I'm telling you what is preferred. There are shit loads of people on this very board that disregard fantasy, and even more in the real world who dump fiction altogether. I'm sure there are plenty of works with furryfaggot xenodwarf characters that are actually good and have something worthy of being said, but the majority of the world doesn't care to hear it, even if you put a cute Disney vermin on the cover and make it dance for the children at the cinema.

[Anonymous No.11278898]

>>11278863
Fair, we are deligated to this ghetto while the rest of the board discusses “real books”

[Anonymous No.11279007]

>>11278621
What do you take us for, furrys? No one's gonna respond to you.
btw Pyanfar best captain an I dare you to find another that can rock red satin an gold arm bangles better.

[Anonymous No.11279022]

>>11278621
you knew this was coming didnt you.

[Anonymous No.11279053]

>>11279022
She looks like a goblin.

[Anonymous No.11279055]

>>11278419

Acceptable*

>Contemporary fiction
>Historical fiction in appropriate setting
>Genre fiction esp. futuristic or fantasy

Unacceptable

>Historical fiction in wildly inappropriate setting

*These become unacceptable if it's ham-fisted or detracts from the story.

[Anonymous No.11279057]

>>11279053
goblins dont have fluffy tails.
she looks more like a kobold.

[Anonymous No.11279099]

>>11279057
No I mean she has a goblin like face, not her actual race since she's obviously some kinda dog girl considering the hetero chromia.

[Anonymous No.11279117]

>>11278621
Ska aren't human.

[Anonymous No.11279149]

>>11279022
Inform me of this literal who.

[Anonymous No.11279176]

>>11279149
wolfgirl that splits herself into hundreds of copies of herself. shes from super sales on super heroes.
she doesnt create copies of her personality per-se but rather she has hundreds of copies of herself inside her head that manifest when she splits up. they all share the same sentiments and dispositions though for the most part. in the second book they split up after some differences in to 3 distinct "primes" with each their own seperate personalites that share similarities.
shes great because shes always cheerful and happy. shes written to be some sort of girl next door personality. all the while actually being a PMC all on her own. and she loves to make pancakes for some reason.

[Anonymous No.11279223]

>>11279117
based Vin-poster

[Anonymous No.11279226]

>>11279057
kobolds have scales and are lizards

[Anonymous No.11279230]

Why is Sanderson anti nobility?

[Anonymous No.11279235]

>>11279230
I assume because he is a liberal. They're always anti authoritarian. most are communists as well.

[Anonymous No.11279237]

>>11279230
nobles are fucking useless pigs and should all get guillotined

[Anonymous No.11279245]

>>11279226
He meant eastern kobolds, or 'gnolls' for the west.

[Anonymous No.11279248]

>he thinks a random Joe blogs who is popular is better suited to lead than someone groomed and taught the specific skill set from a young age
Very few people voted to power know what they are doing 2bh

[Anonymous No.11279249]

>>11279235
>They're always anti authoritarian. most are communists as well.
How does that work.
>>11279237
Shut up parisian scum.

[Anonymous No.11279257]

>>11279249
t. noble swine
go suck the king's smelly cock you pampered retard

[Anonymous No.11279261]

>>11279249
>How does that work.
i didnt say they are very smart people.

[Anonymous No.11279272]

>>11279257
>implying I'm a noble

[Anonymous No.11279300]

>>11279272
you should get guillotined either way

[Anonymous No.11279309]

>>11279300
So will you.

[Anonymous No.11279315]

>>11279230
He's American

[Anonymous No.11279333]

>>11279315
Probably the actual reason, the only monarchists i know are from my country or the UK.

[Anonymous No.11279348]

>>11279333
I'm not a monarchist but I would certainly portray nobility differently. Who knows what's his problem.

[Anonymous No.11279418]

>>11278328
>its hardly bad plot/writing if first 100 pages of Name of the Wind mention he has uncommon talent for everything he sets his mind on
Yes it is
It's just wasting 100 pages saying he's playing with cheats enabled

[Anonymous No.11279443]

>>11279418
Why did you reply him let alone on that point?

[Anonymous No.11279484]

>>11279230
He's not a very good writer and nobles are easy villains.

[Anonymous No.11279629]

>>11279484
*people in power
FTFY
They also make easy heros/good guys

[Anonymous No.11279662]

What do you think of this man, /sffg/?

[Anonymous No.11279688]

>>11279230
I disagree that he is. He writes most nobles as useless shits, however he usually has several nobles who are good people.

[Anonymous No.11279711]

here's some cuck fantasy for all the reditors shitting up the thread.
>MC white girl falls in love with black foreigner
>white guy that loves the white girl is a pathetic bitch that betrays everyone
>other white guy dies (in love with a princess)
>princess of the land is black and a super powerful mage
fuck white people. I made my wife's son read this and he loved it.

[Anonymous No.11279730]

>>11279711
>had me laughing and crying
Sounds appropriate, I suppose. Can't escape kekoldry, not even in books.

[Anonymous No.11279755]

>>11279711
>look up the author
>white
Sad. Also, that cover is laughably bad.

[Anonymous No.11279765]

>>11279755
>white
He is a Russian jew

[Anonymous No.11279785]

What are some nice small scale books? I've noticed I got really bored of those tomes about gigantic empires, armies, history of thousands of years etc.

[Anonymous No.11279792]

I tried so hard to get in to get into The Initiate Brother Duology by Sean Russell.

Holy hell it's the first book in almost a decade that I had to stop reading because it was so fucking boring. In its place I picked up The Tales Of Otori. So much better.

[Anonymous No.11279793]

>>11279755
>shvarts
>white
i dont think so tim.

[Anonymous No.11279808]

>>11279785
There's a Wizard of Earthsea, it's just about a wizard.

[Anonymous No.11279840]

>>11279765
Ah, so he's DOUBLE no white.

[Anonymous No.11280003]

>>11279785
Shades of Grey by Jasper Fforde. Deals with the main character, no armies in sight and there's no history because it's been forgotten.

[Anonymous No.11280023]

What is the edgiest genre fiction book you've read?
For me it was the Prince of Thorns. I'm sure there's sharper stuff out there.

[Anonymous No.11280035]

>>11280023
sword of truth.
the description lulls you in with a standard sword and sorcery adventure setting with some romance. oh boy was i wrong. the first book is about mc and his love interest getting tortured by bdsm nuns. literally 3 quarters of the first book is them getting tortured by bdsm nuns.

[Anonymous No.11280048]

>>11280035
Author has a nun fetish.

[Anonymous No.11280059]

>>11280048
It's more the BSDM than the nuns, also he's a cunt.

[Anonymous No.11280060]

>>11280023
Night Angel.

[Anonymous No.11280154]

>>11278212
is there a guide or anything to go with Book of the New Sun? I'm having difficulty understanding Gene's ideas.

[Anonymous No.11280172]

Really struggling with WoT lads, but at four books in I feel like I've spent too much time on it to give up.

[Anonymous No.11280175]

>>11280023
First Law probably, or a Court of Broken Knives.

[Anonymous No.11280181]

>>11280172
I gave up after the firsts half of the first book.

[Anonymous No.11280196]

>>11280023
I don't know, Child of God I guess?

[Anonymous No.11280221]

I'm reading Dune Messiah and up to the start of the third chapter. Literally nothing is happening, how disappointing after the awesome conclusion of the first book.

[Anonymous No.11280236]

>>11280221
Felt the same way, just a lot of talking and politics with one somewhat nice reveal that didn't do as well as it should have considering how little there was to be attached too.

[Anonymous No.11280247]

>>11280236
Are you talking about Hayte?

[Anonymous No.11280268]

>>11280247
Yeah, pretty much. I thought it was interesting but hardly the big moment as it was for Paul.

[Anonymous No.11280274]

Just finished Stations of the Tide, liked it even if it felt kind of like a travel guide more than a solid story? Maybe just because it had so much mentioned that was never/barely explained and it was on such a odd planet.

[Anonymous No.11280409]

Why is asian literature so disgustingly bad

[Anonymous No.11280444]

>>11280409
A thousand copies will never yield the same result.

[Anonymous No.11280624]

>>11280409
I haven't read any. Does Pearl S Buck count? She grew up in China.

[Anonymous No.11280756]

Who would win, sffg? The Dra'Azon or The Culture?

[Anonymous No.11280766]

>>11278801
I get it, but I don't find "relatable" characters interesting at all.

[Anonymous No.11280769]

Fuck you guys I like shounenshit, give me a book where the protag starts weak/unimportant and becomes great/important on his own

[Anonymous No.11280792]

>>11280769
I guess Dresden Files? Witcher books?

[Anonymous No.11280797]

>>11280769
Mistborn

[Anonymous No.11280825]

>>11280792
anymore suggestions, im not ready/in the mood for dresden and ive read the witcher books, thanks for the offers though

>>11280797
Im reading the way of kings books right now, about to start the third book, and I was wondering if mistborn was good since kings is always suggested before mistborn

[Anonymous No.11280854]

>>11280825
I haven't finished it, but I'm guessing American Gods might work out that way?

I'd joke about Legend of the galactic Heros probably going that way considering one of the MC's is just some dude, while the other one is 'a hopeful', but they're both very tactically skilled (at least in the books, i've heard complaints that the tactics are all simple grade school shit.)

[Anonymous No.11280862]

>>11280769
Literally Sanderson

[Anonymous No.11280892]

>>11280854
American Gods is good, but it's certainly not shonen. I think there's more interludes of historical tales than there are action scenes, and the MC is probably the least interesting part of the book.

[Anonymous No.11280908]

>>11280892
True, Shadow is hardly interesting. I'm honestly grasping because I have an aversion to 'high power-level' stories.

[Anonymous No.11280912]

>>11280825
I didn't hate it but all jokes aside you can do a lot better than Mistborn. I've only read the first but it was largely mediocre especially if you aren't impressed by his magneto magic system like most of the "booktube" dregs that lap it up. I'm still fairly new to reading but The Book of the New Sun is pretty great thus far

[Anonymous No.11280926]

>>11280912
I like the sterile, weird magic system he uses, if only because I spent to much time playing table top RPG's.

[Anonymous No.11280948]

>>11280926
There's an actual Mistborn PnP system so you might want to check that out if you like the world. I wish i had played more RPGs, would have given me an excuse to world build my setting autist style

[Anonymous No.11280960]

>>11280948
Yet to read it, different guy that's reading Stormlight, maybe half way through the second book.

I'm surprised there isn't a PnP game for stormlight yet, though I imagine it has something to do with A: sanderson not having all the forms of magic worked out or B: Not wanting to 'spoil' shit with hard game answers.

[Anonymous No.11281147]

>>11280960
I'm assuming the Mistborn one came out after the og trilogy so if he does one for Stormlight he will probably wait until the books are finished

[Anonymous No.11281251]

>>11281147
AKA it won't be out before I'm dead, most likely.

[Anonymous No.11281257]

>>11280274
I really enjoyed Stations of the Tide, although I was slow to really get engrossed. The story definitely took a back seat to the imagery and atmosphere.

[Anonymous No.11281275]

>>11281257
I have to say, it sure tells you what kind of book it'll be rather quickly, considering the captains rant is within'... Maybe the first 20 pages?

[Anonymous No.11281289]

Anybody else read Red Mars, Green Mars, and Blue Mars? I'm a little over halfway done with Blue Mars and I'm getting hyped for a conclusion to everything, but also wondering why Robinson had to make it such a burden. There's not much of a plot anymore, it's just dragging on. We need more Nadia and Art chapters. Nirgal used to be cool but this last part just seemed uninspired, didn't contribute anything to the story.

>>11279785
Lest Darkness Fall, pretty much anything by Heinlein, anything by Steven Gould. There's a lot of quick and easy dime a dozen paperback fantasy books too. Some can be pretty generic plot-wise but damn they're just page turners. What is it about good descriptive but not purple prose that fires the imagination?

>>11280023
Gotta be the Prince of Nothing and then that tetrology that comes after.

[Anonymous No.11281414]

>>11278560
>I'm brainlet

you'd have to be to like that trash desu

[Anonymous No.11281432]

>>11281414
where did i say i liked it anon

[Anonymous No.11281457]

>>11278212
What's some fantasy stirner would like?

[Anonymous No.11281470]

>>11281457
Game of Thrones

[Anonymous No.11281471]

>>11278212
What's the worst thing a fantasy author can include in his novel? The best?

[Anonymous No.11281517]

>>11281471
Worst is pretty easy: Probably anything involving their fetishes/sex views.

Best no clue, subjectively i'd say a hobby their passionate about outside of writing.

[Anonymous No.11281539]

>>11281471
Incredibly hamfisted modern social commentary

[Anonymous No.11281629]

>>11281471
Sex fetishes, thinly veiled hamfisted critique of society, elves/dwarves/orc/trolls, annoyingly honourable characters, POVs.

[Anonymous No.11281636]

>>11281517
Did Gene include Pringles in any of his books?

[Anonymous No.11281654]

>>11281539
I'd include a mention about a king named Lartin Muther that was assassinated in the land of Cleves.

[Anonymous No.11281734]

>>11281471
It's fetishes, hands down. Not sure about best.

>annoyingly honourable characters
I really like when this is done right, unfortunately the average modern bugman has no fucking clue what a "lawful good" character actually looks like and so can't write one. The protagonist of Three Hearts and Three Lions was a positive example. Another one I ran into recently was John C. Wright's Swan Knight series.

[Anonymous No.11281763]

>>11281471
Catgirls senpai

[Anonymous No.11281794]

>>11278801
It really depresses me seeing how often "I can't relate to the characters" is bandied about as if it were criticism and not a condemnation of the reader's own lack of imagination.

[Anonymous No.11281809]

>>11281471
>What's the worst thing a fantasy author can include in his novel?
Incongruous, non-sequitur political tracts. There are fewer things boring than listening to somebody else explain their political views, and interrupting an otherwise engaging fantasy adventure story with that horse shit is gonna make me donate the book to the nearest library.

[Anonymous No.11281818]

>>11281794
People are plebs that need to identify with a certain character. Hence the identityfags bitching about skin color.

[Anonymous No.11281957]

>>11281734
Literally the only sex scene I've seen in a scifi book that's "worked" and hasn't been cringe has been the one in Komarr, and it works because it's used to illustrate how loveless and failed a character's marriage has ended up.

>>11281809
"google bitcoin" the wizard said

[Anonymous No.11281975]

So I read Blindsight and Starfish.

Any other essential WattsCore?

[Anonymous No.11281990]

Does lit like the expanse novels? I've only read three books this year so far (This Naked Mind, 12 Rules to Life, and The Leftovers, currently working on Homo Deus)

Do you guys rike it

[Anonymous No.11282021]

Is Alan Moore's The Courtyard worth a read?

[Anonymous No.11282044]

>>11281975
Echopraxia

[Anonymous No.11282050]

>>11281990
I do, it's one of the best sf action series, great memorable characters, good action, interesting world. Read them all anon. The show is a must, but that goes without saying.

[Anonymous No.11282163]

>>11281990
Very pulp adventure in theme, some of the latter books are lower quality, but overall a good read.

[Anonymous No.11282184]

>>11280274
>>11281257
>>11281275
I've read Stations of the Tide twice. The first time I thought it was good story but not great, not worthy of all the award nominations and Nebula win. Then I heard that a possible key to the story the bureaucrat's quest follows the steps of occult magick initiation and there's also another angle which you can read at Swanwick's site in the "Reviews & Analysis section."

I still feel like I should read it a third time because there's still things I've missed.

[Anonymous No.11282299]

KNEEL BEFORE YOUR CONQUEROR

[Anonymous No.11282370]

>>11281471
Honestly, bad names.
Nothing takes me out of a book like bad names of things.

[Anonymous No.11282388]

A song of fire and ice will be delivered on to me tomorrow lads.

[Anonymous No.11282402]

>>11282370
You must hate Ursula.

[Anonymous No.11282426]

>>11281471
>What's the worst thing a fantasy author can include in his novel?
Stupid names that sound made-up and don't have a clearly discernible pronunciation
A map that has place names like "The Dark Forest"
Books worth of content that consists solely of worldbuilding with no significant plot movement
POVs of new characters no one gives a fuck about that crowd out previously established main characters that the reader is invested in

[thiskillsthedarkelf No.11282444]

>>11278212
So /lit/, why are web novels the absolute pinnacle of written perfection?

Just finished [emperor of solo play] and it's pants down better than anything gene wolf, tokien or JK rowling has ever written.

[Anonymous No.11282446]

>>11281471
Name a book after a location the party reaches on the last page
Have a good beginning and end but boring mid section to pad out a page target but keep you invested in the next book
Have a character fall in love at first sight
Have a MC that is young but strong enough to take on adults or any unrealistic shit like that
Is in magic or some shit like that to explain why the above works despite a small 12 year old kid killing fully trained bands of warriors
Have a young kid travel the world setting in motion world changing events that drastically change the landscape of the world
Have the MC have more life experience before turning 13 than everyone else around him making him feel like he is 40 even though he is still a kid

[Anonymous No.11282452]

>>11280172
i'd highly recommend quitting rather than continuing to waste time on drivel

[Anonymous No.11282457]

>>11280172
Just stop while you still have your wits about you.

[Anonymous No.11282559]

>>11282446
>name a book after a location the party reaches on the last page

I an struggling to come up with anything I have read where the author does that.

[Anonymous No.11282602]

>>11282446
>Have a MC that is young but strong enough to take on adults or any unrealistic shit like that
>Is in magic or some shit like that to explain why the above works despite a small 12 year old kid killing fully trained bands of warriors
Gene Wolfe's Wizard Knight?

[Anonymous No.11282661]

>>11282559
Clearly it's so terrible that all authors have wisely avoided it.

[Anonymous No.11282690]

>>11282444
>video game world

[thiskillsthedarkelf No.11282706]

>>11281471
Diversity for the sake of diversity, this didn't bother me until I got tricked into reading those female assassin novels that keep recommended.

Also, Authors who take change one letter of common use names like Charon, tanasha, Aric but then name their final villian Hank or some chit.

>>11282690
Just open your anus to the truth anon.

[Anonymous No.11282726]

>>11282444
>>11282706
Got any other recomendations?

[Anonymous No.11282734]

>>11281636
Book of the Long Sun takes place inside of a pringles can

[Anonymous No.11282828]

>>11278753
*With some few exceptions.
Fantasy and Science Fiction races are sometimes a stand-in for a particular human characteristic. Usually in an exacerbated manner, but when well written, it can be compelling.

[thiskillsthedarkelf No.11282838]

>>11282726
Honestly none that come to mind at the moment, there's a lot of garbage I drop two hundred chapters in though.

Dungeon defense and yours and mine asylum aren't too bad if you're into the korean theme.

[Anonymous No.11282849]

Hit me up with some real degenerate shit; bestiality, incest, rape etc.

[Anonymous No.11282862]

>>11282849
game of thrones.

[Anonymous No.11282870]

>>11282862
already read it, also very tame

[Anonymous No.11282948]

>>11281471
Female Warrior

[Anonymous No.11282960]

>>11282948
What if she's an elf?

[Anonymous No.11282964]

>>11282849
there was a gri chart floating around. maybe its in a previous thread

[Anonymous No.11282968]

>>11282734
Kek

[Anonymous No.11282989]

>>11282964
I need charts that have a) fantasy books that feature only white humans b) modern fantasy books with non shit romance subplots.

[Anonymous No.11282996]

>>11282849
You should just read visual novels instead.

[Anonymous No.11283002]

>>11281471
>The worst
Sick to the teeth of seeing a token nordic viking race, or just any type of race that is inherently superior at war than everyone else (the aiel for example). I also hate it when a society that doesn't allow women to join its army suddenly changes its mind, and this is a good thing because women are just as competent at war as men.
>The best
Don't know, I'll go for Longbowmen slaughtering knights for fun.

[Anonymous No.11283009]

>>11281471
>The best?

Human genocide.

[Anonymous No.11283011]

>>11282706
Any good novels about Dark Elves?

[Anonymous No.11283030]

>>11281289
>Gotta be the Prince of Nothing and then that tetrology that comes after.

Fucking this, i had to put it down after the continuous occurrence of mass murder, mass cannibalism, mass rape and mass necrophilia being perpetrated by the protagonists

[Anonymous No.11283055]

>>11283030
I can understand mass killings, but what about the rest, authors fetishes?

[Anonymous No.11283108]

>>11282960
Then it's cool.

[Anonymous No.11283217]

>>11281471
>the worst
obvious fetish-based content for kinks I don't like
>the best
obvious fetish bait for MY fetish
it's mind control don't (You) me

[Anonymous No.11283223]

>>11283217

[Anonymous No.11283235]

>>11283217
mind control is a fetish for wusses

[Anonymous No.11283273]

>>11283217
>>11281734
>>11281629
>>11281517
>fetishes
What books did you read that did this? And what was it?

[Anonymous No.11283278]

>>11283273
WoT & Asoiaf

[Anonymous No.11283305]

>>11283217
Mind control NTR is the best

[Anonymous No.11283338]

>>11283305
>NTR
>best

[Anonymous No.11283363]

>>11283338
Yeah, I used to hate it too. You'll understand one day

[Anonymous No.11283364]

>>11283273
sword of truth

[Anonymous No.11283377]

Second to last thread! Sorry I'm late.

I've been thinking about putting the next deadline at Aug 1st and allowing longer, 300-500 pages long book for the next choice. Thoughts?

If you read in English, make sure your version is the 2011 translation.
Download: https://share.soupwhale.com/bibliotik/files/Solaris%20-%20Stanislaw%20Lem/

[Anonymous No.11283381]

>>11283363
Cuck

[Anonymous No.11283780]

>>11283381
But anon, don't you know that Doctor Peterson says being a cuck is the coolest?

[Anonymous No.11283906]

>>11283273
>>11283217
>>11281629
>>11281471
so whats the difference between an author inserting a sex scene that's supposed to be hot and a bit unusual, and something that's obviously a fetish thing?

[Anonymous No.11283927]

>>11283055
Rape and killing tend to go hand in hand when sacking a city, especially if said city is full of religious enemies, and that happens a lot in the novel. As for cannibalism, well people will do anything to survive. The only necrophilia I remember was by one of the non-human races that are basically insane twisted monsters designed by Gieger-tier demi-gods to cleanse the world of sentient life

[Anonymous No.11283934]

http://randidarren.blogspot.com/2018/06/wild-wastes-3-out-now.html
its out faggots

[Anonymous No.11283939]

>>11283934
Does it feature romance?

[Anonymous No.11283944]

>>11283939
more fucking than romance but im pretty sure his wives all love him.

[Anonymous No.11283948]

>>11279176
This sounds like an utterly shit book and you should eat a bullet for having such shit taste you mouth breathing retard

[Anonymous No.11283955]

>>11283948
thank you.

[Anonymous No.11283957]

>>11283030
Sounds sick anon, guess I better go read it.

[Anonymous No.11283971]

>>11283955
No seriously stop posting and at least try and choke yourself with your belt or something. You are a waste of oxygen and resources that could better be spent on a human that isn’t so useless

[Anonymous No.11284020]

>>11283934
dl link where

[Anonymous No.11284037]

>>11284020
http://suprafiles.org/a4u2l2hg4qr3

[Anonymous No.11284085]

>>11284037
zombie cat girl
and a dryad farm

what more could a man ask for

[Anonymous No.11284132]

>>11283939
the author's name is "horny darren" what do you think?

[Anonymous No.11284178]

>>11283906
Well I'd say usually, fetish shit applies outside of sex more than it does actually inside it. Like that other anon's mind control fetish, it doesn't inherently have anything to do with sex, though it obviously can be.

[Anonymous No.11284477]

>>11282388
okay

[Anonymous No.11284513]

>>11282559
>>11282661
You would think so. I would defend this book it it was better. It was recommended at like number 5 on a recent fantasy thing and it isn't that good. It's called "Tower of the Arkein" and pic related is the first reference to the actual tower, Arkein is the magic in the book.
>>11282602
No, I can't remember what book it was that's from but I know I have read something with that sort of thing going on.

[Anonymous No.11284528]

>>11284513
fucking fantasy books and their retarded "invent new words for everything also use shitty names too"

[Anonymous No.11284545]

>>11284178
I like to pee on girls faces, does that count? 85% of the time you just pull out your cock and start pissing on a woman's face, she'll be into it and go along

[Anonymous No.11284549]

>>11284545
what about the remaining 15%

[Anonymous No.11284552]

>>11284528
The first book (part 1, book 0 yes that's what the author called it) was interesting because for the most part it didn't follow any fantasy cliches. It was about a kid who's family died so he became a monk, he went on a religious journey with some other monks and became a slave where fantasy memes started to happen again. The second book (part 2, book 1) which is pic related was just cliche after cliche.
Also apparently book 0 is not needed to enjoy the story but the author refers to it as part 1 and if you didn't read it you would spend 50% of book 1 wondering who the hell these people are and why does the MC care about them.

[Anonymous No.11284594]

>>11283934
oh snap felix and vince are cousins didnt expect that

[Anonymous No.11284610]

>>11284594
fucking spoilers whats wrong with u its only been out like 2 hours

[Anonymous No.11284611]

>>11284549
You don't pull out your cock.

[Anonymous No.11284618]

>>11284610
He used a spoiler tag to be fair

[Anonymous No.11284683]

>>11284513
Pic related is better than that shit.

[Anonymous No.11284685]

there is any book with a character like viconia?
this shit is too hot

[Anonymous No.11284689]

>>11284611
yeah but how do you know

[Anonymous No.11284722]

>>11284683
Obviously, Maas graduated Magna Cum Laude so it'd have to be.

[Anonymous No.11284726]

>>11284683
Is mc a slut that would take magna cum load?

[Thiskillsthedarkelf No.11284747]

>>11283011
No, there has never been a good novel, web or western that featured dark elves which wasn't crap.

Elf slayer maybe comes close.

[Anonymous No.11284820]

>>11284726
its basically snowwhite but instead of a prince waking her up. its an assassin that is sent to kill the prince only to then fall in love with him.

[Anonymous No.11284866]

>start playing a game
>some autist wrote an 87pg pdf interpreting the story
I know what I'm reading next.

[Anonymous No.11284895]

>>11284866

[Anonymous No.11284903]

>>11284895
why the fuck is there a hanja lesson on the whiteboard behind him

[Anonymous No.11285024]

>>11284903
he's speaking at a nerdspace

[Anonymous No.11285282]

>>11280154


>>11281471
>worst
Self inserts and/or their own obvious power fantasies.

>best
New ideas or an interesting spin on old ideas.

[Anonymous No.11285291]

>>11280154
>>11285282
Fugg, forgot to write the answer to you. There's Urth of the New Sun that clarify some stuff. There's some resources and interesting discussion if you search for it, but it can be hard to find. You can also ask here, there's generally some autist around to answer questions.

[Anonymous No.11285311]

>>11284594
aww shiet evas brother evan gets his own personal dryad warrior harem

[Anonymous No.11285395]

>>11282426
>live next to a huge lake
>its name basically mean water

[Anonymous No.11285408]

>>11282706
>until I got tricked into reading those female assassin novels that keep recommended

[Anonymous No.11285424]

>>11285408
suckers gonna suck

[Anonymous No.11285437]

>>11283934
I'll keep fapping to fantasies born from the covers but I vow to never read these books.

>>11284610
>crying about spoilers
>in a spoiler tag
What did you mean by this?

[Anonymous No.11285486]

>>11283934
That's a nice cover, for a YA at least.

[Anonymous No.11285550]

>>11285486
>implying that is YA
Do you even know what YA is?

[Anonymous No.11285662]

Looking for a book or a series. Kind of like the Legend of the Five Rings. A fictionalidh setting with Demons and Chinks.

[Anonymous No.11285685]

>>11285550
Are you saying this book is not YA? Well then the cover is shit.

[Anonymous No.11285818]

>>11283934
This looks so stupid I want to read it.

[Anonymous No.11285820]

>>11279176
You forgot to say shes also dumb as a bag of bricks and borderline insane

[Anonymous No.11285843]

>>11279230
>Why is Sanderson anti nobility?
What? His stormlight archive half of the cast is of noble origin.
Some are scum, some are alright, some are great men, but mostly they just create wars, seems like a honest description of medieval social politics.

[Anonymous No.11285851]

>>11283934
NEW
PULP
ERA

[Anonymous No.11285871]

So I just finished book two of the stormlight archives and the ending felt weird too me. Like it was prelude for a power rangers series, is book 3 good?

[Anonymous No.11285899]

>>11280792
>I guess Dresden Files? Witcher books?
Could you have given any wose examples?
Also Geralts story starts 100 years into his life when hes already known everywhere as the best witcher.
And Dresden is worthless at start and 15 books later.

How the fuck does ether fit the heros journey shonen crap trope?

[Anonymous No.11285917]

>>11285818
If Wild Wastes can make it then that's all the motivation I need to finally start writing my urban fantasy story about ghosts running around pretending to be superheroes fighting a cross dimensional war across heaven and hell.

[Anonymous No.11285932]

>>11281471
>What's the worst thing a fantasy author can include in his novel?
Anything sex related.
Its so rare to read non retarded non cringe sex sequences that i prefer if its just implied or just described in generic terms.
>best
Proper fucking epilogue and ending that isnt 1 page long.

[Anonymous No.11285974]

>>11282446
>Is in magic or some shit like that to explain why the above works despite a small 12 year old kid killing fully trained bands of warriors
Prince of Thorns right?
I fucking hated it, it had a kid of 12 maybe younger take over a brutal gang of rapist murderers and thieves by ... fucking few of them up.
Fuck that book.

[Anonymous No.11285990]

>>11284178
Exactly
Like in Harry Potter when he gets Imperio'd
It wasn't sexual but I know goddamn well that Rowling is out there prowling on mcstories and literotica's mind control section because that shit was written like exactly my favorite kind of smut

[Anonymous No.11286022]

>>11285408
You think that bad?
I read Sarah Mass shitty series without recommendation, just searched by fanatsy on goodreads with high scores.
I hate read whole thing, truly women were a mistake.

Also what the fuck is with female writers and love triangles, every fucking time.

[Anonymous No.11286029]

>>11285932
>proper epilogue and ending
But what if I want to write a sequel in the future?

[Anonymous No.11286032]

>>11281471
Time travel.

[Anonymous No.11286046]

>>11286029
Epilogue dont mean you have to write a time skip version of the protagonists grandchildren like some retards dom, it means your wrap up all open plot threads and give show us the fallout of the actions of the book.
Also fuck cliffhangers, i have yet to see one that didnt just piss me off.

[Anonymous No.11286096]

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34469656-wild-wastes
>4.22 for ratings

Damn. I'll have to buy this.

[Anonymous No.11286148]

>Fantasy where modern white man is sent to medieval era
>Immediately tries to destroy civilization with all the cancerous liberalist views that are failing today

[Anonymous No.11286334]

>>11280035
God the Mord Sith stuff made me hard as diamonds when I was a teen

[Anonymous No.11286340]

>>11285917
>urban fantasy
kys myself

[Anonymous No.11286342]

>>11286096
>love it, its adult pokemon...
Don't

[Anonymous No.11286343]

>>11280059
I’ve always heard that about Goodkind. Why is he such a dick

[Anonymous No.11286396]

Whats better, the film or the book?

[Anonymous No.11286404]

>>11283934
Is it a trilogy or are there going to be more?

[Anonymous No.11286412]

>>11286022
>female writers and love triangles
Women are whores

[Anonymous No.11286424]

>>11286412
>>11283934
:thinking:

[Anonymous No.11286433]

>>11285974
to be fair he's also a prince, and he freed them from jail. after making some examples and loosely proving that luck was on his side, the group warms to him. a few of them threaten to kill him in the beginning when they are still in the castle or whatever.
>>11286022
>what the fuck is with female writers and love triangles, every fucking time
they are a hypergamous breed. love triangle = the female game plan for life.

[Anonymous No.11286439]

>>11286343
He's a randdroid.

[Anonymous No.11286447]

>>11286022
>Also what the fuck is with female writers and love triangles, every fucking time.

And it's so dishonest
>implying MAGNA CUM LOADE has ever been outcompeted romantically

It's like Taylor Swift bitching about guys just wanting to be friends. Wake up, sheeple.

[Anonymous No.11286448]

What’s the /lit/ consensus on the SoT series? I liked them when I was a teen. What series would you recommend?

[Anonymous No.11286457]

>>11286439
That makes total sense looking back.

[Anonymous No.11286502]

>>11286340
Ok, it's science fantasy that takes place in a setting very similar to our own.

[Anonymous No.11286515]

>>11286502
much better

[Anonymous No.11287246]

>>11284552
So you'd suggest Tears of a Heart and never read the book after it?

[Anonymous No.11287263]

>>11285899
I mean I easily could have given worse answers, but dresden does get stronger and more socially powerful as the books go, despite his wishes.

Bitch he isn't even 100 in the games, fuck are you on about.

[Anonymous No.11287283]

>>11286447
Pretty cute looking, hopefully it'll help her get bad books published.

[Anonymous No.11287357]

>>11286447
>that necklace
great, she's into occultism like all the other "artists" that pump out expensive pearlescent garbage. that face says it all too. privileged slot who need only bat an eye for anons like >>11287283 to call her cute (at least you recognize that her books are shit---not a complete heathen).

[Anonymous No.11287393]

>>11287357
hurr hurr misogyny misogyny misogyny
hurr hurr essay about a picture written by a fucking virgin who hasn't read her books

[Anonymous No.11287405]

>the name of the wind
>half a book about chasing a thot
I'm getting tired of this shit

[Anonymous No.11287410]

>>11286448
Licanius trilogy

[Anonymous No.11287414]

>>11287393
She’s never going to have sex with you fatty

[Anonymous No.11287452]

>>11287405
>Wise man's fear
>is about the name of the wind
Ummmmmm

[Anonymous No.11287505]

>>11287393
>hurr hurr misogyny misogyny misogyny
I don't hate women, I simply loathe whores. she reeks of it.
>hurr hurr essay about a picture
hardly, but I guess my post will fulfill your reading quota for the year's remainder if that's how you feel.
>written by a fucking virgin who hasn't read her books
correct. I would sooner break than bend for a whore. don't tell me you actually liked the love triangle...of course you did.

[Anonymous No.11287509]

>thinking about the women and love triangles meme
>realise there are half a dozen in Harry Potter
Wait wtf?

[Anonymous No.11287513]

>>11287509
jk rollings is a girl

[Anonymous No.11287527]

>>11287513
Yes and a child author and still has love triangles.
There really is something to this.
I can think of one women author who off the top of my head doesn't have any and I would consider her books good so that's nice. Trudi Canavan has some forbidden love in place of it though, also a society of women from memory.

[Anonymous No.11287540]

>>11287527
not trying to Peterson-up-the-place, but it really is as simple as hypergamy. they are designed/evolved to keep options and always strive for better. the love triangle is the perfect testament to this; obvious when reflected upon, but surface level enough that most won't notice, including the women penning their genetically encoded fantasy for our collective suffering. there are outliers, but in the end of the day, most mine for gold and will only settle for silver until they can trade their goods for gold.

[Anonymous No.11287573]

>Without a thought, Vince took a step forwards and then kicked off the ground, spinning himself out horizontally over the blade. The big sword passed harmlessly underneath him. Vince landed on his feet and used the rotation of the move to bring his saber around. The blade caught the Orc’s forearm and stopped dead on the bone, going no further.

Woah...

[Anonymous No.11287580]

>>11287527
The characters of her books are hormonal virgin teenagers trapped in the same building, no shit there's going to be love triangles.

[Anonymous No.11287601]

>>11287573
I think you are supposed to skip all the non-smut/dryad farming segments

[Anonymous No.11287834]

Just finished pic related and, after the first two books, what a goddam letdown.
Weak as fuck protagonist that does nothing, except when she's fucking up the entire human race by being unable to make hard choices. Sophon goes from "delicate and wise tea lady" to "cull the human race through cannibalism" back to "sadder tea lady." I am baffled that the main character would associate with Sophon after the whole Australia thing. Also, the ships of humans that left the solar system and engaged in "dark battles," becoming "negacivilizations," seem perfectly normal now, even going out of their way to save the ship that had come to kill them. Thomas Wade should have been the real protagonist, nigga got shit done. Finally, it definitely should have been the main chick and her lover, who bought her a fricken star and a mother fricken universe, together at the end. Having her miss out on meeting him due to a fluke and having her face the end of the universe with random other guy made no sense.

Blogpost over.

[Anonymous No.11287848]

>>11285685
>Are you saying this book is not YA
Yeah, it's basically harem smut.

[Anonymous No.11287849]

>>11286396
Film. On the Silver Globe(film) is better than both. Haven't read that book however.

[Anonymous No.11287858]

>>11286396
is this any good? noticed it is the same line as my BotNS copies.

[Anonymous No.11287860]

>>11287834
So would you suggest the other two books and just forgo this one?

[Anonymous No.11287868]

>>11287505
Your anger and bitterness will make you miss everything that makes life worth living. You'd be pitiable if you weren't such a raging annoying fag.

[Anonymous No.11287869]

>>11287858
Yes you fraudulent queer, read it.

[Anonymous No.11287871]

>>11287540
I am sure you're an expert on both women and relationships.

[Anonymous No.11287900]

>>11287871
why yes i am anon thank you for noticing. here's a (You) for your other post too >>11287868

[Anonymous No.11287907]

>>11287509
well yeah teenagers are stupid and hormonal.

[Anonymous No.11287909]

>>11286022
>just searched by fanatsy on goodreads with high scores
Even worse than reading meme recommendations from /sffg/ lmao

[Anonymous No.11287940]

>implying love triangles are a woman thing
>implying love triangles are a recent thing
The absolute fucking state of this thread. Women have melted your brains. Love triangles are literally among the oldest tropes in story telling there is. Pic related, one of the most influential love triangle ever only rivaled by Helen, Menelaus and Paris.

[Anonymous No.11287941]

>>11287940
>fagalot and thotnevere

[Anonymous No.11287945]

>>11287940
L o fucking L nice shitty old paintin op did u dig that one out of the same trash heap where you found your words? wtf r u even on about Helen and menses lmao. at least paris is a real place ill give u that

[Anonymous No.11287978]

>>11287945
kek

[Anonymous No.11287985]

>>11287940
>not mentioning Romeo and Juliet

[Anonymous No.11288010]

>>11287985
I tried to keep to male authored love triangles and Shakespeare was a black female as we all know. Seriously though, I'm pulling this straight from my ass but I feel like most classic (European) love triangles are inspired by either of the ones I mentioned, and the Arthurian one probably the Homeric also.

[Anonymous No.11288013]

>>11288010
What came first, Arthur or Tristan and Isolde?

[Anonymous No.11288016]

Ok, fuck love triangles, recommended new fantasy books with good romance.

[Anonymous No.11288021]

>>11288013
From Wikipedia:
>In its early stages, the tale was probably unrelated to contemporary Arthurian literature, but the earliest surviving versions already incorporated references to Arthur and his court

[Anonymous No.11288041]

>>11288021
So we don't know. I wonder if the Romans didn't just bring Homer to Britain and as time went by it transformed

>>11288016
Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.11288048]

>>11288041
>Book of the New Sun
What would you call the dynamic between Severian, Dorcas and Jolenta? It's a little like a love triangle.

[Anonymous No.11288050]

>>11288048
Well since everyone has sex with everyone in that trio, yes, sure.

[Anonymous No.11288052]

>>11288050
>>11288048
Why can't I escape kekoldry. Any more suggestions?

[Anonymous No.11288060]

>>11288052
Seek medical help, stop posting on Commonwealth Optimate Cosplaying Chapterhouses, find a hobby that connects you to other people, stop talking and thinking about politics.

[Anonymous No.11288069]

>>11288060
I meant fantasy books with romance subplot suggestions.

[Anonymous No.11288073]

>>11288069
Discworld fills every specific need yoy might have.

[Anonymous No.11288121]

>>11288041
>Book of the New Sun
this, but unironically

[Anonymous No.11288179]

>>11288069
The Night Circus by Erin Morgenstern (Victorian)
Fool on the Hill by Matt Ruff (modern)
Curse of Chalion (medieval)
Last Call by Tim Powers (modern)
Belgariad (medievalish)

[Anonymous No.11288186]

>>11288179
Thanks.

[Anonymous No.11288375]

>>11283002
>because women are just as competent at war as men.

I get the rare examples like Boudica, or whatever... But if most cultures around the world have consistently shown that men rule the battlefield for a reason. Right?

[Anonymous No.11288379]

>>11288375
Should've removed *if* there, sorry.

[Anonymous No.11288442]

>>11288375
Reason being that it's hardwired into women to cherish and protect life and they're thus less likely to find themselves in positions that asks of them to send out men and women to kill and die. It doesn't mean that individuals are less apt(Catherine the Great, Zenovia, Isabelle of Spain, Maria Theresia spring to mind), but as a trend men find themselves in those positions more often.

[Anonymous No.11288450]

>>11288442
I should add that the decreasing frequency of wars and the fact that political power is now remote from military power means women do get elected more and more often as a trend. Ironically the most famous hardliners in 2 of the top countries of the world(UK and India) have been women.

[Anonymous No.11288518]

Proposition: Sci-fi and fantasy are best done in European and Japanese comic books, in part because they rely on fantastic designs and imagery to draw the reader in. In books these genres deliver trashy literature in 90% of cases.

[Anonymous No.11288525]

>>11288518
Japs are shit at fantasy

[Anonymous No.11288541]

>>11288525
>he doesnt like Berserk

[Anonymous No.11288549]

>>11288541
name 5 more. I can think of maybe 2.

[Anonymous No.11288553]

>>11288549
Berserk
Demon Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls II
Dark Souls III

[Anonymous No.11288624]

>>11282989
Make your own chart then faggot

[Anonymous No.11288628]

>>11282849

[Anonymous No.11288702]

>>11281975
his short work bangs. Beyond the Rift is excellent

[Anonymous No.11288709]

is there any romance in malazan?

[Anonymous No.11288723]

NEW THREAD
>>11288722
>>11288722
>>11288722

[Anonymous No.11288910]

>>11288518
Absolutely wrong. And here is why: The idea that SF&F rely on fantastic designs and imagery is wrong, the same qualities that make for good normal fiction is just as good in fantasy or sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.11289035]

>>11287405
Just drop it. There's better stuff out there. And when you find it, come post about it so the rest of us have something to read too.

[Anonymous No.11289054]

>>11288628
Now if only there was one with some good books in it...

[Anonymous No.11289157]

>>11289054
Make your own then. With your superior tastes I'm sure it will transcend the good / bad dichotomy.