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Sup /lit/ r8 this book choice to stop being a brainlet about politics:
>The Republic - Plato
>The Prince -Machievelli
>Wealth of Nations - John Adams
>Communist Manifesto - Karl Marx
>Mein Kampf - Hitler
>Atlas Shruged - Ayn Rand
>Gulag Archipelago - Solzhenitsyn
>1984 - Orwell
>Brave New World - Huxley
>Democracy the God that Failed - Hoppe

sugestions?

>> No.11271521

>>11271495
Remove Atlas Grugged and Mein Kampf
Add Politics by Aristotle and Democracy and its critics by Robert Dahl
I'd also add Origins of inequality by Rousseau, Democracy in america by Touqueville and something by Carl Schimmt and Anna Arendt

>> No.11271539

>>11271495
Dude I’m sorry but you’re not going to read all of that. Mein Kampf? How the fuck will that make you more knowledgeable about politics? And Atlas Shrugged is the biggest literary bore ever conceived. Also very little to do with politics. Read Wealth of Nations, Leviathian. Get a Marx Engels reader if you need to. Learn some basic economics, research more into actual CONTEMPORARY politics if you want to know something about it

>> No.11271541

Skip all that shit.

For know just pick up an introduction to political philosophy.

Read a bit and realise that you're time would have been better spent on Shakespeare and Goethe, rather than some middlebrow "wahh I don't look like the intellectual I idealise myself to be" shit.

>> No.11271544

>>11271495
Also, the Gulag Archipelago? Jesus man

>> No.11271551

>>11271495
>Wealth of Nations - John Adams
>John Adams

>> No.11271561

Unironically read Fukuyama at this stage

>> No.11271664

>>11271495
>>11271521
Add The Wealth of Nations by Adam Smith. It's unironically a fine read and will make you smarter.

>> No.11271667

>>11271664
Never mind, I didn't see Adam Smith in the list so I thought it wasn't there.

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Alan Ryan- On Politics

>> No.11272243

where the fuck did you get this list
>mein kampf
>atlas shrugged
no
>gulag archipelago
do you know how long the entire thing is? I'm not sure a self-proclaimed 'brainlet' could get through the first volume.

>> No.11272273

>>11271495

That's more of a cringe-list than a read-list to be honest OP. Plato, Machiavelli, Adams, Marx (and I'd just read the first chapters of Das Kapital instead of the manifesto), Solzhentisyn (but that work is immense, you shouldn't actually tackle that), and Hoppe are the only ones who discuss actual political phil in there.

You also definitely should read Hobbes and Rousseau, unless you want to talk politics while skipping social contracts, and in this case you won't be talking to many others. I'd also put Hume in there and, to be completely honest, you should just say fuck it to politics and read up on finance and economics which is the real meat of the contemporary world, and where actual power lies.

>> No.11272279

>>11271495
those are all brainlet core except maybe Plato and Marx

>> No.11272283

>>11272279
Solzhenitsyn is far from brainlet core mate

>> No.11272292

>>11271495
Remove Mein Kampf and Atlas Shrugged and add Politics and Nicomachean Ethics by Aristotle.
>Democracy the God that Failed
Props for this. I rarely see works of Hoppe posted on this board

>> No.11272324

>>11271495
Don't bother reading any right-wing "literature."

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>> No.11272403

>>11272336
haven't read Marx but I can't help but imagine that this may be a bit of a strawman

>> No.11272437

>>11272403
>childish meme picture used as an argument
your only mistake was taking it seriously in the first place

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>>11271495
>1984 - Orwell
Read it, but for fuck's sake don't bring it up in discussions. Always when the government does something stupid, brainlets scream 1984, every fucking time

>> No.11272640

Foucault

>> No.11272668

caring about politics is brainlet

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>>11271495
That list is so fucking wrong I don't know where to begin. Fuck me.

Pretty much everything worth reading would be incomprehensible to you at this point. So perhaps start with Vidal's historical literature for a start? Good journalism may be helpful, as far as understanding what goes on behind the rhetoric: Orwell's early stuff, IF Stone's, Alexander Cockburn's?

If you can find a copy of Huxley's Ends and Means that's worth it, too. Might inoculate you against the BS ideologues that will be competing to take you. When that's done, move on to Lasch or Chomsky (particularly Necessary Illusion's).

>> No.11273437

>>11272403
>communists
>reading Marx