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I need a book that describes the most virtuous, powerful, resolute, and energetic man possible. I need something motivating to read a bit of every morning, of someone so great that it almost borders on parody. I'm tired of reading literature about tragically flawed and emotionally challenged men, I simply want something awe-inspiring and masculine. And I can't think of anything to read. I'm making my way through Lansings' short book on Shackleton, and this is good, but I imagine there's even better out there.

Essentially, when I put the book down, I want a renewed sense of just how shitty I am and how much better I could be. I want some awe in my life.

>> No.11257839

>>11257832
El Cid

>> No.11257848

>>11257832
i bought a farewell to arms today, does it apply

>> No.11257860

>>11257848
Wow, don't know how I forgot about Hemingway. Suppose I should check him out again. It's funny, it seems the more introspective the character, the less "masculine" he is and the more tumultuous his emotions. Can you imagine reading a novel of a completely virtuous man and his inner machinations? I suppose this should tell us all something. Maybe I should stop thinking entirely.

>> No.11257861

>>11257832
Reading is literally a hobby for women. You aren't going to find anything like that here.

Film is a much more masculine medium, start looking there.

>> No.11257865

>>11257832
What is it with this website and its users have a borderline homoerotic fascination with masculinity?

>> No.11257872

>>11257865
What's with modern society and calling love for manhood and great men homoerotic? Why sully the institution of love because some faggots in San Francisco like to have their dicks covered in each other's shit?

>> No.11257877

>>11257865
even plebs have a subconcious "homoerotic fascination with masculinity" its just expressed differently (NBA, NFL, MMA, action movies, etc)
masculinity is just fascinating

>> No.11257879

>>11257865
Because they're all 280lbs but can't bench the bar and thinking reading books about their broken cartoon idea of a real man (because they're so disconnected from humanity they don't know other men) will help them cut their gaming from 4 hours to 3 hours a day.

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>>11257832
Read this asap.

Jocko and Ferris did a 4hour podcast on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GNRn3GtJ3g

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>>11257865
purify your filthy mind, masculinity is the opposite of faggotry, which is always effeminate and debasing

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>>11257832
>stashues!!!!!!

>> No.11257963

what are some books about ramming man ass

>> No.11257976

>>11257963
read Foucault and Marx

>> No.11257981

>>11257963
Leaves of Grass
Howl

>> No.11258096

>>11257832
I think Ayn Rand is what you're looking for.

>> No.11258102

>>11258096
>dishonorable, greedy (((female))) ideology
>masculine
pick one

>> No.11258140

>>11257860
Men are characterized by controlled and principled action. AI, if you will, is purely masculine. Introspection on men usually begins after failure; "What did I do wrong?" - The importance of action remains. The meaning of action and their purpose, and the principles are brought to a question first. Approaching the self is weird. However... introspection is not feminine. It is a frontier to the spiritual, and virtues are a necessity in traversing there. It is, you could say, such a dangerous place one does not go unless they have a calling for there, or if it is the last place you can even go to!
I would go so far as to say that you need to have courage to venture there.

>>11257919
ISIS pls go.

>> No.11258158

>>11257832
manierism was a mistake

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>>11257898
*touches your children*

>> No.11258169

>>11257832
art of the deal

>> No.11258173

>>11258140
stop writing posts like this or i'm going to save them and show them to your wife once you get married

>> No.11258183

>>11257832
Only decadents are obsessed with “masculinity”

>> No.11258190

Hemingway and Steinbeck

>> No.11258197

>>11258173
No, I believe I hate females far too much to get married. Though if I were to meet the woman of my dreams (woman is the dream-illusion of the feminine the masculine created to maintain civility and not kill off the wombs), I do admit I would soften beyond my form. I must say I cherished the idea of marriage in my youth, but feminists smashed that idol first in their fanatical tirade.

>> No.11258205

>>11258197

>> No.11258206

>>11258183
>Only decadents are obsessed
This is a truism, as decadence is the state of obsession.

>> No.11258208

>>11258197
STOP WRITING POSTS LIKE THIS AND GIRLS WILL LIKE YOU MORE SO YOU CAN STOP HATING THEM

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>>11258197
>

>> No.11258230

>>11258208
Exactly! It is as I do and say! Expecting women to be the first motion is futile. They were to be equal, and the fool that I was believed them!

>> No.11258233

>>11258230
>>11258208

>> No.11258252

>>11258233
I can already lay women if I just lie to them. Never talk opinions, never talk politics, never talk important things. Just useless garbage and lies. I don't want to suffer when I am supposed to feel good.

Psychedelics are better company.

>> No.11258262

kill w*men

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>>11257872
the way people write in this board is so unnecessarily dramatic and serious its funny

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>>11258271
Better than the alternative. Clumsy, sure, but at least it conveys something.

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>>11258271
I mean just look at this thread. A picture of a statues ass. And people who in real life are just regular dudes writing extensive triumphant commentary on how they love men and manliness kek just think about how funny this is

>> No.11258283

>>11258275
hetero brainlet.. ressentiment..

>> No.11258292

Im a homossexual male ask me anything

>> No.11258300

>>11258292
What do you think about the Greeks?

>> No.11258301
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11258301

>>11258292
Is this you?

>> No.11258316

>>11258292
Do you live in Australia

>> No.11258317

>>11258300
I find it pretty interesting on a more historical perspective, but there is still some mysticism in their mode of thought
>>11258301
Omg delete that

>> No.11258410

>>11257832
The Fountainhead unironically

>> No.11258451

>>11257879
The amount of projection in this post is astounding

>> No.11258565

>>11257832
Read Emerson's essays. Begin this morning with History and follow it up tomorrow morning with Self-Reliance, etc.

>> No.11258635

>>11257865
We are a bunch of manlets and virgins with no friends and a lack of social awareness. We are obsessed with things we are not and hate on everything that threatens our fragile ego.

>> No.11258639

>>11257832
The Fountainhead

>> No.11259007

>>11257879
that's pretty incorrect, though

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>>11257839
Fucking this.

>> No.11259019

>>11258635
>We
easy there manlet.

>> No.11259021

>>11258282
you think like a woman

>> No.11259029

>>11257861
this is true, at least partially
film was masculine until the 1970s
feminism is ruining western culture. film is dead

>> No.11259038

>>11257861
>>11259029
Film is baby-ish and not at all masculine. It is effete, decadent and trivial.

>> No.11259048

>>11257832
The fucking Odissey
Jerusalem Delivered

>> No.11259049

>>11257832
The Old Testament is what you're looking for, even if you don't know it yet.

>>11258183
This

>> No.11259058

>>11257861
>>11259029


Both of you are short-sighted, facile, retards.

The most masculine medium is physical performative art.

You guys should fuck each other in the ass.

>> No.11259095

>>11259048
>I'm tired of reading literature about tragically flawed and emotionally challenged men
> The Odyssey

And that's how I know you haven't read it.

>> No.11259137

>>11257865
>Crisis of masculinity
>Young men desperate for positive male role models
>M U S T B E H O M O S T H E N
I envy your powers of deduction

>> No.11259139

>>11259095
What kind of man diserves the adjective of masculine if he hasn't gone through emotional and physical challenges and was flawed by hardships.
He defines masculinity as we intend it. HE IS THE ARCHETYPE.
And you presumptuous mongrel, son a cur and bitch have the nerve to deprive ΟΔΥΣΣΕΥΣ of his status .

>> No.11259142

>>11259139
THE NERVE. THE AUDACITY.

>> No.11259144

The first step is to find more of those picture of Greco Roman statues, and I mean hundreds, then print them, put them all over your room, and the juicy manliness oozing from those pictures will imprint itself on you, day by day.

And stop reading, it's for effete ponces.

>> No.11259207

Supposedly Bronze Age Pervert is coming out with a book in the next few days

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marboT

>> No.11259312

>>11257832
All Star Superman
Doc Savage
Atticus Finch
Hornblower
Edgar from King Lear
Aeneas
Percival / Galahad
Jesus
Phillip Marlowe

It's a struggle though. Most literary heroes are major arseholes in some form or another. There are very few paragons though plenty of monsters.

>> No.11259365

>63 posts
>95% of them don't answer the question
>95% of them are either faggotry, pseudry or misogyny

Fuck this board

>> No.11259439

>>11258252
please, lets be friends!

>> No.11259444

Hemingway I guess, but I've only read one book of his and I don't really read.

>> No.11259445

>>11259207
might actually be good
I bet he could write good sword and sorcery

>> No.11259447

obviously gilgamesh. whats wrong with people in here, i mean, i didn't have a daddy... so what the fuck has happend to you

>> No.11259449

Walter Scott

>> No.11259453

>>11259447
GIRUGAMESH

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>>11259029

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>> No.11259472

>>11259453
i chose thinking over writing, congratulations to you. everyone has skills.

>> No.11259506

>>11259460
>>11259466

fuuuu, cool memes xD

>> No.11259519

>>11259472
What are you babbling about. Let’s hope your ability to think is more developed than your ability to write, for your sake

>> No.11259603

Lord of the Rings
Sherlock Holmes
The Fountainhead
Beowulf
Norse Mythology

>> No.11259612
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>>11259506
>Not knowing that black bordered white text post ironic image Marcos are in again.

>> No.11259617

>>11259137
There is no masculinity crisis once you get off the internet. The 'men' you are inspired to be work in private and out of public site. The working man who provides for his family and the business man doing what he wants are the exact archetypes of this 'lost masculinity' you faggots talk about. You're just looking in the wrong places-the internet-where it certainly isn't.

>> No.11259618

Start with the bronze age.

>> No.11259668

>>11258292
kys?

answer is "yes" btw

>> No.11259686

>>11258282
Don't worry anon. These people here glorifying manliness because of lacking a strong father figure as a child will be obsolete.

>> No.11259696

>>11257893
>self-help jew
>manly
Back to tumblr with you so yboy

>> No.11259705

>>11259137
You numales and your fucking crisis. Stop drinking so ymilk and reading bullshit written by edgy virgins and manlets, because it rots the mind.

>> No.11259710

>>11257832
Unironically Atlas Shrugged

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>>11259010

>> No.11259730

>>11257861
hahaha fuck outta here, reading by a rich fire is x1000 times more manly than sitting in front of your TV.

>> No.11259743

>>11259730
>

>> No.11259754

>>11258410
elaborate pease.

>> No.11259776

You can't go wrong by picking an admirable figure and finding a good biography. A few random examples:

American Caesar: Douglas MacArthur, Manchester
The White Rabbit, Yeo-Thomas
Anders Lassen, Langley
Parallel Lives, Plutarch

Other non-fiction, not quite biography:
The Ascent of Everest, Hunt
The Kon-Tiki Expedition, Heyerdahl
We Die Alone, Howarth

Fiction
---------
Beowulf, Unknown author
All the Scandinavian mythology
The Song of Rowland, Unknown author
Conan the Barbarian stories, Howard

>> No.11259796

I follow this guy on YouTube who got jacked as shit from eating fish livers Nd swinging swords in his backyard. Might b ur man

>> No.11259800

>>11257839
Might as well read Nibelungenlied and Song of Roland too.

>> No.11260044

>>11259365
Oh no, not misogyny. Not on my Reddit!

>> No.11260053
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>t. the anons having an auststic fit over a thread about masculinity
Why do communists want to make men weak?

>> No.11260060

>>11260044
I mean, I'm all for misogyny but lets keep it in the relevant threads.

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>>11258410
>Fountainhead
dropped

>> No.11260127

Storm of Steel.

>> No.11260234

>>11260053
weak man detected

>> No.11260271

>>11260234
>you dont want men to be weak?
>you must be a weak man XD
good one reddit

>> No.11260276

>>11259365
>answering pathetic questions by spooked men is good

t. woman

>> No.11260993

>>11257879
this is completely correct, though

>> No.11261009

>>11260276
How is it pathetic? How is he spooked? How am I woman? How are you so retarded?

>> No.11261030

>>11259139
Actually the best legit rec in this thread, followed perhaps by Emerson's Essays, 1rst and 2nd series.

>> No.11261032

>>11257861
>>11259029
>>11259058
Literally every one of these mediums was considered solely the domain of men for decades if not centuries until some arbitrary point where they became "feminized".

>> No.11261038

>>11259029
this is why i dont read anything newer than 1970

>> No.11261042

>>11257832
How the BBC changed my life by Jonathan McSoylent

>> No.11261058

>>11259029
What are you talking about? 70s cinema was the height of degenerate Jewish navel gazing.

Film was redeemed by the 80s, when masculinity was cool again and people weren't afraid to put tits on screen.

This returned with the blockbusters of the 90s and 2000s, only for action cinema to become yet another mode of leftist propaganda.

>> No.11262635

bump

>> No.11262783

>>11261058
>What are you talking about? 70s cinema was the height of degenerate Jewish navel gazing.
no it wasn't

>> No.11262837

>>11262783
Sydney Lumet
Martin Scorsese
Stanley Kubrick
John Cassavetes
Woody Allen
Robert Altman

The only masculine 70s director was Peckinpaw, but even he was a postmodern nihilist

>> No.11262849

>>11260127
This.

>> No.11263274

sounds like you want a boyfriend, nigga

>> No.11264717

>>11262837

Many others too (Sydney Pollack for example. Remember Three Days Of The Condor, with that absurd last scene pretending the NYT is the noble defender of civilization. Bleahhh.)

>> No.11264799

>>11257832
>Heracles will never let a boi braaaaaap off on my face
Fuck this gay kοσμον

>> No.11264815

>>11257832
Wtf is the thing on his leg

>> No.11266426

>>11262837
I'm honestly not sure what you mean by ''degenerate jewish navel gazing''. Would you categorize Taxi Driver as that? If so you're an idiot.

>> No.11266440

reminder: when people complain about depressing authors they are dogwhistling /pol/ always because this is the stupid shit that Goebbels and Rosenberg used to say about Jewish authors and judaic afflicted white authors. completely ignore them, there is no book written in the modern era that rivals Kafka or Joyce in intensity or genius that would justify itself on the merit of being “high energy” alone. this person wants a spiritual prostate milking, which is what amphetamines and black metal are technically.

>> No.11266566

>>11257865
It's common to many men, why? Because masculinity is about competition and improvement, individual strength of body, mind, and character. Your bitter, vindictive mind may wish to rush to compare that drive to your cartoon idea of the mindless hedonistic sex-degeneracy of the modern homosexual. But I see something else. I see the divine spirit of man rising out of his decadent stupor to attempt to better himself. Like an angry animal fighting themselves in the mirror, the barbarian instinct of men rages at his confused impotence.

I only regret that society has fooled man into yet another mindless distraction in his search for meaning.

>> No.11266605

>>11258635
You aren't even a manlet, you're a voluntary eunuch

>> No.11266741

>>11266566
I can't tell if you're being serious, but your post is pretty funny either way.

>> No.11266799

>>11266566
+1

>> No.11266834

>>11266741
Holy shit you're enlightened. Sorry I didn't know I was sharing this board with such a smart, cool guy. My apologies

>> No.11266859

>>11259460
WE LIVE
IN A SOCIETY

>> No.11266870

>>11266834
Thanks, apology accepted.

>> No.11266886

>>11266870
What a worthless spineless faggot

>> No.11266917

>>11266886
No need to put yourself down like that, anon.

>> No.11266919

>>11257832
Just read the 3 musketeers from Dumas.

>> No.11266999

>>11257832
NIETZSCHE ANON

DESTROY DIE SKLAVENMORAL

>> No.11267005

>>11257832
Sir Gawain and the Green Knight

>> No.11267012
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>>11257832
The Count Of Monte Cristo

Edmond Dantes is a real man.

>> No.11267157

>>11257832
Arthurian legend

>> No.11268589

>>11257861
film is gay nowadays and only lasts for an hour and a half. it's premature ejaculation.

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>>11259617
I work somewhere I get to observe lots of young men filing through to their future prospects. There is such a crisis of positive masculine energy going on right now among them that I'm legitimately frightened at the thought of what needs to happen to break them of it. Male assertiveness is mistaken for hostility/arrogance. Harmlessness is disguised as restraint. They act out a kind of self-hate and masochism, then tell themselves it's noble stoicism. There are virtually no positive masculine traits that the people most involved with boys and young men on a macro scale aren't trying to shove down the crapper right now. Femininity has its virtues, but it's being marketed to our culture as the big cure to everything that ails our society when clearly the issue is the opposite- we are demonizing masculinity while simultaneously expecting our young men to bare the same burdens as before, with shame as their only reward. The young women especially hate it, though they even more seldom know how to identify it. No woman wants to fuck a man who doesn't ever think of himself as at all responsible for her well-being and asks for permission every time he touches her. I'm going guess that you're either completely talking out of your ass, don't interact with young males, or feel like admitting to this reality inadvertently betrays some liberal value you think might be related to it. There is definitely a crisis. It's petty and stupid to some people how common fucking sense seems to become explosive information in times like these, that's just the way it works.

>> No.11269285

>>11266919
>Just read the 3 musketeers from Dumas.
what translation?

>> No.11269689

>>11257861
Are you high?????

>> No.11269695

>>11257865
What is it with moderns trying to make everything sexual and especially homosexual?

Stop trying to undermine men.

>> No.11269700

>>11257872
THIS, THIS, THIS!

THIS A THOUSAND TIMES!

I love you, anon.

>> No.11269751

Read the ancients. Greeks, Romans. Almost all of that stuff projects a "Real Man" vibe without effort because back then groups of guys going around wiping out other groups of guys, burning their cities and stealing all their women was a normal thing that happened every generation.

compare that to some modern writer like Hemingway; he's so affected, almost to a homosexual degree, where you have these tobacco-reeking men with granite chins barking flat, clipped descriptions of medium-sized physical objects to each other, a parody of manliness. It's fake, a product of neurosis. Someone else said the fetishistic obsession with "masculinity" is decadent - that's true. There wasn't any room for this kind of neurotic preoccupation in 50 BC. Read the Greeks and Romans, it cleans your mind. Read Herodotus and Thucydides (in that order) if you haven't yet.

>> No.11269923

>>11257832
Gayyyyyy

>> No.11270202

>>11258300
what about Greeks faggot?

>> No.11270232

>>11269700
that's pretty gay

>> No.11270870

>>11269751
>it cleans your mind
This. I now have a beautifully clean and blank mind now.

>> No.11270918

The New Testament

>> No.11271726

>>11268887

I don't understand the crises, I haven't experienced it. Anxiety about suppressed masculinity is not even 5th or 6th on my list of problems. I'd say this post borders on incomprehensible to me because I don't have anything to connect it to besides gesturing at things like women getting upset when men are rude at work or something? But I can't see how fighting those kinds of accusations is a high priority concern, or considered a grave societal issue. Nobody I know seems to worry about this shit except for people on the internet. Everybody else is usually complaining about things like health problems, or trying to get a better job, or dealing with their kids, or their goals with their hobbies and creative pursuits or whatever.

>> No.11272396

>>11271726
>Everybody else is usually complaining about things like health problems, or trying to get a better job, or dealing with their kids, or their goals with their hobbies and creative pursuits or whatever.
You're simply describing what the majority of people have cared about in every age. If we followed only what the majority of people have cared about, we would have literally nothing of literary or philosophical importance in our culture

>Nobody I know seems to worry about this shit except for people on the internet
Because the internet is where people you know go to voice their deepest held complaints

It's not about "suppressed" masculinity. It's about taking a step back and looking at how our society relates itself to masculinity. It's the lack of men in primary education, it's the over-policing of male language (a professor joking about a "lingerie store", etc), it's the way our public discourse elevates sentimentality (femininity) over facts (masculinity), it's a lack of healthy male role-models in most forms of media, it's diatribe over "fragile masculinity", etc etc

>> No.11272414

>>11257832
Man, I think I'm in love woth that ass.