/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11254827]

Do women have any archetype?

[Anonymous No.11254839]

that's my dilemma with Jungian psychology...

[Anonymous No.11254869]

My boy Peter lookin' like Mr. Toad's Wild Ride up 'ere... good enough for a poke...

[Anonymous No.11254913]

Don't bother with Peterson he is to Jung, what Alan watts was to Buddhism. But even watts covered Jung's ideas better, Peterson deludes the ideas of the archetype making it seem like a personality test which is something Jung himself never done

[Anonymous No.11254939]

>>11254913
>Peterson deludes the ideas of the archetype making it seem like a personality test
When the fuck has he ever done that

[Anonymous No.11254941]

>>11254827

The Lover/Seducer
The Mother

[Anonymous No.11254946]

Madonna
Whore

[Anonymous No.11254994]

Roastie archetype is eternal

[Anonymous No.11255001]

>>11254946
this

[Anonymous No.11255004]

>>11254946
this

[Anonymous No.11255005]

Oedipal Mother

[Anonymous No.11255028]

>>11254827
The only thing I hate more than e-celebs are pseud e-celebs, I feel as if I'm browsing reddit from all the Peterson faggotry in the board.
What happened to liking obscure meme philosophers like Zizek and Land, is /lit/ too going to get on the mainstream hype train?

[Anonymous No.11255047]

>>11254939
Don't bother he's meme hating

[Anonymous No.11255057]

>>11254827
Woman child
Femme Fatale
Castratrix
Mother

[Anonymous No.11255075]

Mother/Whore

[Anonymous No.11255078]

>>11254827
something to do with her flap hole thats basically what wome are

[Anonymous No.11255106]

>>11254827
women have multiple archetypes.
you would know this if you'd read any children's story.

[Anonymous No.11255117]

>>11254827
Venusian Princess
Black Widow
Juno Mother of Harlots
Minervan Nerdic Matriarch
Madonna-Whore dual persona
Vestal virgin
hearthkeeper
desexed subhuman
crone

[Anonymous No.11255122]

>>11255028
It's /pol/ psy-op garbage. I wish they were more original in their right-wing thought.

[Anonymous No.11255150]

>>11255122
Peterson himself isn't exactly right wing, but it is /pol/s fault he became popular

[Anonymous No.11255673]

ALP

[Anonymous No.11255698]

>>11255673
HCE/ALP is the greatest dichotomy ever explored in literature

[Anonymous No.11255709]

>>11255028
How is he a pseud ?
He's ppretty interesting

https://youtu.be/hU7AewaHr0Q

[Anonymous No.11255728]

diana
amazon
lolita
vamp
flapper

[Anonymous No.11255730]

>>11255122
No. It's leftypol posing as pol to shitpost. There's a thread on the front page currently that proves this.

[Anonymous No.11255743]

>>11255698
If any work of literature is worth studying for life it's the Wake

[Anonymous No.11255748]

>>11255730

i have to ask. is leftypol a faction of pol or a separate board on this site or another site? ive seen the word so many times, over years, i don't know what it is

[Anonymous No.11255774]

>>11255748
infinity chan board. Honestly I've looked there and on resetera (the closest thing to an orwelian internet community) and their style of post is a lot like anti-peterson poster.

[Anonymous No.11255811]

>>11255774

thank you

[Anonymous No.11255825]

>>11255811
>>11255774
You're welcome.

Btw I'm not saying everybody who criticize Peterson is some kind of retarded commie nor that the man is perfect but you can see a lot of the same anger and arrogance accross those posts.

[Anonymous No.11255828]

>>11255743
Couldn't agree more

[Anonymous No.11255855]

>>11254827
Jesus Christ, look at the frail old mess of a man.

He bursts into tears during every livestream, but this guy is 'red pilled'? He's a dweeb who hit the big time by being vaguely offensive towards trannies. Ask him to try and discuss his personal philosophies and he squeams and runs to semantics like a fucking degenerate politician.

[Anonymous No.11255911]

>>11255774
I think /leftypol/ is actually a fascinating case study of how Leftwing ideologies can only exist in a carefully manicured vacuum. Cripchan's boards as a whole are carefully moderated, but /leftypol/ takes the fucking cake. They ban people for using the "wrong" pictures of Communist leaders, for example.

[Anonymous No.11255913]

>>11254946
Unironicly this exactly

[Anonymous No.11255983]

>>11255028
>zizek
>obscure

[Anonymous No.11256051]

>>11254946
ding ding ding

[Anonymous No.11256089]

>>11255774
did leftypol (along with other redditors) brigade the recent Peterson AMA?

Cause it was brigaded to make it seem like he refused to answer the two top questions (one being about that time he called Frozen propaganda)

[Anonymous No.11256124]

>>11255983
ask a normie if they know who zizek is

[Anonymous No.11256127]

>>11256124
Over 80% of young leftists active on the internet will recognize him as that funny trash man

[Anonymous No.11256138]

>>11256127
you wish
young leftist activists don't read; they don't think
all they do is reblog tumblr memes
old white males are not on their radar

[Anonymous No.11256145]

>>11254827
Guillaume Faye talks about 3 different types. Trad women, manly women, and ultimate women

[Anonymous No.11256148]

>>11256127
wtf i love zizek now

[Anonymous No.11256153]

>>11256138
Upon closer inspection you will find no discrepancies between your post and mine

[Anonymous No.11256234]

Cloaca.

[Anonymous No.11256247]

>>11256234
Gesundheit

[Anonymous No.11256317]

>>11255122
>Thinking /pol/ doesnt hate Peterson
>Thinking Peterson is right wing

Why all lefties are retarded?

[Anonymous No.11256331]

>>11256153
i think 80% is a bullshit number

[Anonymous No.11256344]

>>11256331
I think it is too
But it's a majority
They won't know much past "ideology" and "i am eating from the trash can" but they'd still recognize him

[Anonymous No.11256399]

>>11256317
Using the words "left" and "right" like their sports teams.

Why are you so retarded?

[Anonymous No.11256406]

>>11256399
*they're

Im too WOKE to spell correctly

[Anonymous No.11256424]

>>11256406
But you just did spell "correctly"

[Anonymous No.11256503]

>>11255004
I fucking HATE Bill's wife. She is unbearable on his podcast, providing absolutely no insight to any issue Bill is discussing and cutting him off when he's in the middle of a good thought. Her voice inflection and vocabulary are of a teenager, and she says "like" every ten words.

It makes no sense because I feel Bill can sense a bullshit person when he sees them. He can do better than this dog.

[Anonymous No.11256540]

>>11256124
most normies know zizek

[Anonymous No.11256557]

>>11256540
No they don't. Most normies don't even understand why philosophy exists

[Anonymous No.11256573]

>>11256557
Understanding why philosophy exists has no causal relation to knowing who a modern day philosopher is

[Anonymous No.11256605]

>>11256344
not in my experience
i don't think they know him at all

[Anonymous No.11256803]

>>11255028
>mainstream hype train

we've been nurturing peterson hype since he was a nobody arguing with trannies at his campus

[Anonymous No.11256829]

>>11255748
/leftypol/ falseflags 9 out of 10 peterson threads on this board

you know it's a /leftypol/ falseflag when it has some pretty obvious hyperbolic, seemingly unironic praise of Peterson: "is this guy a genius or what?"

[Anonymous No.11256846]

>>11254827

yeah idiot and cunt.

[Anonymous No.11257187]

>>11254827
Pussy

[Anonymous No.11257220]

half the posters in this thread would let JBP adopt them and abuse them in the bath

[Anonymous No.11257243]

>>11254827
women are matter, men are form
hylemorphism

[Anonymous No.11257259]

>>11257220
Suck Justin Beiber's Peter nigger

[Anonymous No.11257267]

>>11257259
Best post I've read on this website in a long time

[Anonymous No.11257686]

>>11254827
There is no single "set" of archetypes. It's not like reality is an RPG with a set amount of specific characters where you choose to follow one at birth. To think otherwise is to misread Jung.

So to answer your question OP, yes, there are female archetypes, but this number extends infinitely.

[Anonymous No.11258141]

Why does /lit/ hate Peterson so much?

[Anonymous No.11258145]

>>11254839
Archetypes are not sex-specific. E.g.,even though the Hero archetype is typically expressed using masculine symbolism, a woman could just as well manifest that pattern as a man.

Masculine and feminine symbolism is about more than just men/women. It's a way to express polarity and to capture certain phenomenological aspects of life (consciousness is "born" from the unconscious, hence the feminine associations with the unconscious/great mother etc.etc.).

[Anonymous No.11258150]

>>11255004
>gumshark
kek

[Anonymous No.11258153]

>>11255004
still no clue how these two ended up together

[Anonymous No.11258174]

>>11258141
because people here actually read and we actually explore the other perspectives

honestly the only people that can remain fans of peterson are

a. teenagers or manchildren that have never ever read anything and never had any common sense instructed to them by their family
b. retards that exclusively watch jordan peterson videos on youtube on all the topics he talks about

it is a demonstrable fact that everything peterson was fearmongering about that law about genders was bullshit, the law is in effect and the only thing even the most retarded peterson fan can say happened is someone being verbally accused of being against the spirit of that law, thats now how laws work, and canadian lawmakers absolutely destroyed every single bullshit thing he said during his publicity stunt where he was talking as if he was making another youtube video and where he was immediately backtracking when confronted by lawmakers to saying the law is just confusing to him

also he is a sellout, see how he initially accurately criticized incels and then when he started getting patreon money he immediately changed his tune and actually apologized, absolutely nothing he said about them initially was anything inaccurate, the only thing that changed was he sold out and started talking only the things his donators wanted to hear (muh white males are supressed)

[Anonymous No.11258191]

also peterson is a disgusting faggot sellout when it comes to things his patreons care about

like I personally believe he fully understands what the fuck white priviledge is as explained in that most recent debate by his opponent, but because hes a fake sellout he pretends someone wants to punish him or all white people in the form of a tax or he will say some other retarded appeal to emotion, im sure there are lots of young white incels that eat that shit up since he is saying exactly the bullshit talking points they want to hear, its just pure dishonesty especially from one of the people that claim they care about justice or the good of all

[Anonymous No.11258203]

>>11255911
I feel that many left-wing ideologies are represented on /lit/ (and other boards, to a varying degree, such as /co/) but they're usually countered by right-wing ideologies. And right-wing forums like the_donald and r/conspiracy are heavily moderated as well

[Anonymous No.11258381]

>>11255911
t.never been on infinity chan's /pol/
The whole place is like that

[Anonymous No.11258491]

>>11255122
>It's /pol/ psy-op
Consider that "psy-op" is /pol/ psy-op term.

[Anonymous No.11258499]

>>11258381
Anarchy leads to feudalism.

[Anonymous No.11258500]

>>11258381
cripchan pol is one of the most fucking retarded places in existance
my mind hurts just by thinking about it

[Anonymous No.11258534]

>>11258191
>>11258174
one thing I find really telling about lefty-pol types like this is they all have this compulsion to lace their writing with unnecessary vulgarity and vituperation. Every time I get in an argument with someone like you it ends with lefty-pol anon saying something to the effect of "yeah huh well you're a faggot retard, also a stupid bitch, and a fucking idiot" i.e. trying to use the knowledge that I will read the next thing you write to drag me down to the really low, mean-spirited frequency you're tuned into. Your soul is small so you try to make the world as small as yourself with your ugly language. Pathetic.

PS all the swearing and exaggeration does is reduce the object of your critique to a straw man and make you look like you lack the confidence to say what you're trying to say in plain language (which needless to say you do).

[Anonymous No.11258601]

mother, virgin, old hag

[Anonymous No.11259135]

>>11258534

[Anonymous No.11259141]

Devouring Mother
Madonna
Whore

[Anonymous No.11259148]

>>11254839
virgin, whore, mother, witch, princess, etc
>>11254827
of course they do

[Anonymous No.11259154]

>>11258174
>because people here actually read

[Anonymous No.11259155]

>>11256829
if you've ever been on r/jordanpeterson, you woulnd't consider it hyperbolic at all, that's how his fanbase is

[Anonymous No.11259176]

>>11254827
If you are referring to your own experience then yes. If you are referring to a woman experience then yes, she has both too.

[Anonymous No.11259225]

>>11259155
While that ethos might be true for the redditors, they'd never express themselves like that. Seething /leftypol/ is responsible for the vast majority of Peterson threads.

[Anonymous No.11259305]

>>11255117
How do I acquire Minervian nerdic matriarch gf?

[Anonymous No.11259337]

>>11259225
>Seething /leftypol/ is responsible for the vast majority of Peterson threads.
no matter how many times you repeat this in various threads, it won't be true

[Anonymous No.11259421]

>>11254827
Queen, ice queen, little sister, amazon, wife, chaos, curious girl (Eve, little red riding hood, Goldilocks, Alice...), princess, tomboy...

[Anonymous No.11259429]

>>11259337
It has always been true. It even gets parodied by chronic shitposters who probably started this particular thread.

[Anonymous No.11259433]

>>11255028
>>11255122

[Anonymous No.11260027]

>>11254827
There's plenty in fiction. Mother Mary is one.

[Anonymous No.11261530]

>>11254827
Mother, whore, saint.

[Anonymous No.11261641]

>>11254827
They're butt sluts

[Anonymous No.11261713]

>>11254827
Sirens,Coquettes
Warlord(es)s (Bodicea, Amazonia)
Princess/Queens/Empresses (Cleopatra,Elizabeth I,Wu Zetian) etc

[Anonymous No.11261928]

Imouto
Oneesan
Christmas Cake
Mahou Shoujo

[Anonymous No.11261956]

>>11259135
Yeah, pretty much proving the poster's point.

[Anonymous No.11261999]

>>11258174
>because people here actually read
>doesn't understand the basic reasons Peterson was against the Canadian bill
>hasn't read Peterson

[Anonymous No.11262004]

>>11261928
None of those are really personality typed like:
kuudere
tsundere
mojyo

[Anonymous No.11262209]

>>11258141
He's the kind of fundamentalist religious nut that shouldn't exist in a healthy and productive society. Him and his cultish fans are walking cancer.

[Anonymous No.11262247]

>there's a hierarchy to cleaning your room. Hah catcha!

[Anonymous No.11262294]

This is the worst thread. Everyone should know that Woman is THE archetype as revealed Beauty. Read your Perennialists.

[Anonymous No.11262330]

>>11254827
Depending on how granular you wanna go I'd say maiden mother crone

[Anonymous No.11262334]

>>11259421
>>11254827

Manic pixie girl, courtesan, prostitute (w/wo heart of gold), gamer girl, career women, mother, saint, virgin, sacrifice, damsel in distress, coquette, vixen, Iris, Persephone, Diana, nymph, nymphomaniac, voice of reason, wise grandmother, witch, cross dresser (often military), mistress, dominatrix, bedlam, teacher, gatekeeper, Death, Life, Earth, the Moon. fairy.

[Anonymous No.11262370]

>>11256503
Perhaps she balances him out. The light optimist to his angry cynic. He's just as funny as he was per-marrige so honestly I don't really care about his choice of wife

[Anonymous No.11262400]

>>11255748
it's just /pol/ scapegoating a forum filled with literally whos sharing Marxist PDFs, just as they do with the Jews, Antifa, and anyone else that will feed their paranoid delusions. As if anyone would have to be /leftypol/ to realize Peterson is a pseud.

[Anonymous No.11262409]

awkward

Nobody on here reads anything after all

[Anonymous No.11262498]

/pol/ seems to be divided in relation to Peterson

>>>/pol/173784952