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>if god is real, then why do bad things happen?

>> No.11249583

>>11249573
Dear anon,

Your question is a very good one. Please take a look at what the intellectual elite of the internet discussed in response when asked the same thing: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/8mbbr3/why_would_a_benevolent_allpowerful_god_allow_so/

sincerely,
anon

>> No.11249584

>>11249573
because god is a dick clearly. whichmeans being a dick is the ultimate transcendent good, which means i am fully justified in my behavior

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>>11249573
>god is real

>> No.11249592

>>11249573
Adam fucked up and got us kicked out of the garden of Eden

>> No.11249599

>>11249592
>Adam fucked up
*Eve

>> No.11249600

>>11249592
>Adam fucked up
women are simply unbelievable.

>> No.11249609

>If god is real why does he only care about us since around 2000 years and why was he fucking around with a bunch of jews for such a long time?

>> No.11249620

>>11249573
maybe god is kill

>> No.11249623

>>11249592
>Adam fucked up
Are you FUCKING kidding me?

>> No.11249624

>>11249573
>why doen’t G-d, literally the most powerful being, the only that can be called perfect, share my modern XXI century ideas on good and evil?
That’s how your question looks from religious perspective, i also contains a possible answer to your question.
Other possible answer would be “He's not almighty or omnibenevolent”
I assumed (You) were talking about abrahamic G-d. Correct me if otherwise; also try to formulate more precise questions in the future.

>> No.11249627

>>11249573
Because good and bad are subjective moral idea that only exists in the frame of mind of your own, not outside of the world and or universe.
To imply that good and evil are an actual force in the world means you are a simpleton. God does exist but he works on a Lazare-faire way, only doing what is necessary for the world needs.

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>>11249627
>lazare-faire

>> No.11249703

>>11249624
die kike

>> No.11249716

>>11249646
no traffic back then

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>>11249627
>God does exist but he works on a Lazare-faire way, only doing what is necessary for the world needs.
Thanks for explaining the actions of a whole God in one sentence

>> No.11249749

Reminder that no good response has been given to the Draper's formulation of the evidential POE.

>> No.11249767

>>11249599
>>11249600
>>11249623
The responsibility was Adam's to keep his woman in line or at the very least not follow her into sin

>> No.11249915

Lucifer governs Earth and God doesn't interact with it often. Lucifer caused the original sin and tempts man into sinning to prove to God that man is worthless because he is jealous that God favors man over his angels because man is so weak compared to them.

Lucifer is going to be put into hell by God eventually, and NOT to govern it, rather as eternal punishment for disobeying him. In a way, you could say hell is on Earth.

>> No.11249938

>>11249590
>I know for certain that god isn't real

How to spot the redd*toid

>> No.11249946

>>11249767
How could Adam keep his hoe in line if he had no knowledge to do so?

Face it, Christianity is a joke.

>> No.11249949

>>11249938
yes anon, everyone who disagrees with the based word of God is from reddit, we're a catholic board, desu vult, john of the cross, st thomas aquinas, we're about that stuff here, not rick and morty "science". got it? stop having convinctions that are against the hivemind
please somebody post a fedora image, my folder is empty

>> No.11249965

>>11249949
Reread my post again. Also, someone is a tad overly defensive and hostile. I wonder why.

>> No.11249971

>>11249965
>I wonder why.
I'm tired

>> No.11249992

>>11249946
>Christianity is a joke
It is, but Islam is objectively correct.

>> No.11249996

Because the temporal life is but a temporary one in which the purpose is to save the immortal soul and to carry out God's will. Something which is bad occurs in this context only in juxtaposition to the two purposes I stated above.

>> No.11250009

Bad things happen because this is hell. God is not present here.

>> No.11250023

>>11249573
if bad things couldn't happen then good things couldn't happen too :)

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>If God created the universe, then who created God?

>> No.11250029

>>11249573
But why is god the one based on christian texts?
Most of these arguments fall flat, if you adhere to one specific deity.

>> No.11250028

>>11250025
>If the human brain is a finite object, why does it arrogantly think that nothing is beyond its comprehension?

>> No.11250041

>>11249573
If a writer loves his creations, why would he make them suffer so much?

>> No.11250050

>>11249573
What makes you think God isn't malevolent?

>> No.11250058

>>11250028
t. human brain

>> No.11250064

>>11250028
If there was something beyond your comprehension, how would you know it?

>> No.11250069

>>11250058
t. human brain that recognizes the fact that some things cannot be known, like an ant trying to figure out why people drive cars or go to work

>> No.11250078

>>11250069
"Some things cannot be known" is still an assertion of fact.

>> No.11250084

>>11249592
This. Adam ate from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which incited the Fall. Symbolism for our perception of right and wrong being fucked, not reality itself.

>> No.11250086

>>11250078
That's what I'm saying, we all arrogantly think we have something figured out. Trust nothing, not even yourself.

>> No.11250096

>>11250086
Either everything is knowable, nothing is knowable, or everything is probabilistic/approximate. Argument ad ignoratiam is not a proof for god.

>> No.11250097

>>11249573
Because God is an amalgamation of all traits-- those by which we would identify as bad, as well as good, and then so much more. God is not humanity; God is not the universe. To think we can understand an inkling of his machinations-- or even to assume he designs a plan for us to begin with-- is a byproduct of both human fallibility and the upmost pretension.

>> No.11250107

>>11250096
How can you categorize everything into 3 possibilities? Also, I did not say it is proof for God, but it's worth considering that you cannot say you know for certain that God doesn't exist.

>> No.11250110

>>11250084
The Law and therefore all of Judaism and most of Christianity is an extension of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, aka dualistic minded judgment. To eat of the tree of life is to see all things as neutral or One, which is grace and forgiveness and good times had by all = back to the garden

>> No.11250113

>>11249716
Horse traffic

>> No.11250114

DAILY REMINDER:
All of the """"philosophers"""" and theologians who believed in god only did so because they lacked the sort of scientific knowledge we have nowadays and if Aquinas or Plato were alive today they would be astro- or quantum-physicists.

>> No.11250121

>>11250114
Contemporary science is a religion, that requires faith that the peer-reviewed system isn't being duplicitous.

>> No.11250131

>>11250107
Those are the only three possible epistemologies that are internally consistent. The notion of supernaturality as a means of pondering the existence of god absent these premises is impossible, as everything that exists must be natural.

>> No.11250133

If God is real, why can nobody decide on what God is?

>> No.11250134

>>11249573
If God is real, how come God is real? Checkmate atheists

>> No.11250136

>>11250133
god is the intersection of acausal harmony and deez nuts

>> No.11250138

>>11249573
because this reality is built on decay and suffering. Simply surviving in it requires selfishness and a lack of empathy for other organisms

>> No.11250154

>>11250084
No we just gained intelligence which made us alienate ourselves from the animals and forget that earth is truly the garden of eden.

>> No.11250164

>>11250131
I am thinking more beyond the concept of natural or supernatural, those are just a thought within our heads, as is the assertion that "everything that exists must be natural"

>> No.11250165

>>11250154
the state of nature is horrific my man. Go watch youtube videos of what happens in nature

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>>11250154
>earth is truly the garden of eden.
Truly it is.

>> No.11250212

>>11250164
The notion of the supernatural is logically impossible, as its existence would necessitate its indistinction from nature. If there is a god, it is one that exists naturally. It is from here that we must decide whether the natural world is entirely knowable or entirely unknowable. You can't pick and choose as you would with a supernatural AND natural world.

>> No.11250218

>>11250212
the supernatural is 'outside' the natural and comes and fucks with it in incomprehensible ways. there are laws of nature and they are predictable and the supernatural mocks them