/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11223086]

where can one go to meet high quality people? im talking about people who are motivated and seeking the higher things in life. if you go to coffee shops the only people there are ugly thots and beta orbiters. where can you meet people who want to rise above mediocrity? surely they must gather somewhere

[Anonymous No.11223097]

the classrooms of expensive universities

[Anonymous No.11223103]

whenever i go in a local starbucks its just indian guys writing code on their laptops

[Anonymous No.11223106]

>>11223086
They're everywhere. They just want nothing to do with us. They have their people.

[Anonymous No.11223110]

>>11223097
no thats where all the libtards are. im talking about REAL quality people. not “educated” (brainwashed) people

[Anonymous No.11223111]

>>11223086
>where can you meet people who want to rise above mediocrity? surely they must gather somewhere
You browse 4chan. These people would avoid you like the plague

Also, not literature. Fuck off to /pol9k/

[Anonymous No.11223125]

>>11223110
a nice demonstration of your "quality" there, buddy.

[Anonymous No.11223133]

>>11223125
He's not wrong though. Universities are fun of literal bugmen drones who can't think outside perscribed notions

[Anonymous No.11223134]

>>11223110
You have come to the right place!

[Anonymous No.11223174]

>>11223134
cool! glad to meet a like minded fellow. i was thinking, i want to accomplish something, but i dont know what. what is it do you think we should seek to accomplish? so that we can sit at end of day and say “ah yeah, i accomplished that”

[Anonymous No.11223181]

If you haven't met them by the time you're around 20, you;ll never meet them. Society has established barriers to ensure this.

[Anonymous No.11223207]

>>11223181
shiiiieeet... no one told me when to run, i missed the starting gun

[Anonymous No.11223248]

>>11223181
Where do you meet higher people before 20 then? Not OP.

[Anonymous No.11223262]

>>11223207
I certainly was in the right

[Anonymous No.11223264]

>>11223086
Na– err … free speech rallies and youtube "skeptic" channels?

[Anonymous No.11223270]

>>11223248
Private schools.

[Anonymous No.11223282]

>>11223264
best answer ive gotten desu

[Anonymous No.11223283]

>>11223264
The brightest minds today are commenting on Sargon of Akkad videos

[Anonymous No.11223554]

>>11223283
Going to be fascinating to see how kids who grow up watching youtubers for education and entertainment will turn out in the future.

[Anonymous No.11223571]

>>11223086
Pornhub and vape shops.

[Anonymous No.11223596]

>>11223086
The idea of someone asking this question on this site and board is priceless.

[Anonymous No.11223620]

>>11223086
Whats up with that girl's teeth? 2 much blacked?

[Anonymous No.11223633]

>>11223097
Graduate level education, maybe but undergrad this isn't the case by a long shot.

[Anonymous No.11223644]

>>11223620
No just British

[Anonymous No.11223649]

>>11223554
We already know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAc8B58wOoE

[Anonymous No.11223730]

>>11223649
Damn that kid is cool

[Anonymous No.11224014]

>>11223086
Grad school. But they are usually pretty busy people and mostly insular.

[Anonymous No.11224021]

>>11223730
She must have an IQ of 210

[Anonymous No.11224373]

>>11224021
>she

[Anonymous No.11224443]

>>11223086
be good looking or rich.

[Anonymous No.11224465]

>>11223174
conquer the world, reinvent literature. anything less a waste of talent

[Anonymous No.11224716]

>>11223207
I liked this song a lot some time ago

[Anonymous No.11224740]

White males in elite universities

[Anonymous No.11224744]

>>11223086
the only people I've met who are interesting and worth my time are schizophrenic homeless people I come across at train stations

[Anonymous No.11224767]

>>11223174
I want to use /lit in combination with my stemfag knowledge to develop a numerical model of human psychology so I can predict the outcome of the stock market and then after getting a little retirement fund for myself, release the code to the world so that investment returns plumet worldwide, thereby siphoning money out of capital and bleeding out the bourgeois ignoble scum that have ruined culture.

[Anonymous No.11224781]

>>11224767
You have no idea how investment works if you think that scenario would work in even the perfect world

[Anonymous No.11224790]

>>11224781
I mean I don't really, since I like to use my time to learn actual things instead of bullshit jewish inventions, but from what I've picked up over the years it seems like investment involves speculating on the popularity of an investment vehicle, which necessarily involves loading up on it before other people are aware of the bubble.

[Anonymous No.11224794]

>>11224767
you are a massive fucking retarded and there is literally no way you have knowledge of literature or any stem field and still believe that. Absolute brainlet anime bullshit

[Anonymous No.11224801]

>>11224794
we'll see in twenty years. good chance you're right I guess, but I can still dream.

[Anonymous No.11224811]

>>11223649
God damn do I need benzo+meth to compete at sly with anything real nowadays, they turn so FUCking quick now, witty twisted sense of fucking humours

[Anonymous No.11224822]

>>11224767
>>11224801
no you can't. try to even explain even the very first step you would take to accomplish this

[Anonymous No.11224823]

>>11223106
This is the sad truth

If youre not a part of it from the start you never will be.

[Anonymous No.11224839]

I hated "high quality people"/ call me a nigger but they were some of the most petty and insufferable people I'd ever met. I chose to not be with them and would unironically rather be with "normal" people over them. Because out of eben these "quality" people only very few are worth a shit past the pretension.

Most of them are huge cunts and not worth putting up with.

[Anonymous No.11224842]

>>11223097
>people actually believe university isnt just a status symbol for rich fucks to flex on everyone else

[Anonymous No.11224845]

>>11224822
The psychology model is the easy part. There's an incredible amount of theory + technique that goes into dynamic system modeling that hasn't yet been applied to psychology/sociology. I also have some ideas on qualia and their mathematical representation that I would use in this.

The hard part, as you pointed out is that I have a very inadequate mental model of investment so you're right in saying that I have no idea if it would actually decrease returns since I guess investors could switch to non-psychology based speculating

[Anonymous No.11224851]

>>11224842
It works as a status symbol because it excludes the riff raff

[Anonymous No.11224856]

>>11223086
>high quality people
>posts stacy and a nigger

[Anonymous No.11224858]

>>11224845
first step would be formalizing a model of qualia and then creating a training set of data based on that model. Second step is using machine learning techniques to see how they react to particular sociological conditions. You find EOF's that determine individual variables in this response. If I'm not dead in 20 years I should have something

[Anonymous No.11224867]

>>11224845
>dynamic system modeling
I work in that field, specifically nonlinear dynamic system modeling in physics, which your retarded idea falls under. You do not understand it if you think you can use it to carry out this plan.

[Anonymous No.11224876]

>>11224839
>Because out of eben these "quality" people only very few are worth a shit past the pretension.
Sounds that those people you met weren't true quality people.

[Anonymous No.11224878]

>>11223133
Maybe in American uni. In most places you're taught how to think not what. In my own class I can find far right folk, Marxists, anachists, feminists and antifeminists together.

[Anonymous No.11224885]

>>11224858
>If I'm not dead in 20 years I should have something
And then the realisation that the majority of the stock market is automated will hit you in the nuts.

[Anonymous No.11224895]

>>11224867
>physics
>probably some brainlet field like solid state
That explains it. You people are always narrow minded as fuck. I'm not fucking talking about pure statistical modeling/machine learning. This requires a theoretical framework which I would hypothetically build in this scenario, reducing the dimensional enough to actually be feasible.

[Anonymous No.11224910]

>>11224895
you have schizophrenia

[Anonymous No.11224918]

>>11224910
damn son you got me good

[Anonymous No.11224933]

>>11224910
The best comeback a "physicist" can come up with

[Anonymous No.11224942]

>>11224895
No, learn to read. I do nonlinear dynamics, most applications being biophysics, but I've done modeling in most fields.
You are not going to reduce the dimensionality of the entire fucking collective human psyche to anything meaningful. And if you hypothetically could, you wouldn't be able to measure even a tiny fraction of those dimensions to any degree of accuracy. And if you hypothetically could, the fact that even a model of a single simple human's activity is nonlinear means even a perfectly accurate model is meaningless for predictive purposes as specific as yours.
I know you thought nobody would call you out for being retarded on a literature board, but you are.

[Anonymous No.11224947]

>>11224744
It always brightens my day when I'm having a smoke while waiting on the bus and some mentally ill person comes up to talk. They'll tell their life story without any prompt or some outlandish yarn. Really interesting to interact with people that you normally wouldn't

[Anonymous No.11224970]

>>11224465
how do i conquer equatorial guinea, slaughter the main population/make the country into a banana republic, and save the white race with this newly created falangist country?

[Anonymous No.11224975]

>>11224970
The French Foreign Legion would probably be willing to help you out with like pretty much all those goals

[Anonymous No.11225200]

you achieve something worthwhile first. quality people will follow later.

[Anonymous No.11225246]

>>11224767
So you want invent something, play in the markets, make profits, and be the very type of person you hope to fuck over? You sound retarded.

[Anonymous No.11225256]

If you're not already finding high quality people you're either full of yourself thinking those around you are of low quality or you yourself are low quality and can't figure it out.

[Anonymous No.11225257]

>>11224845
You have way too many factors to track. All markets also aren't the same. You'd have to consider cultures, exports, foreign policies and laws, the top businesses and their corporate staffs all over the planet. I hope this isn't just some futile escapist fantasy you use to cope with your reality anon.

[Anonymous No.11225347]

>>11223270
>implying the people I know who attended expensive private schools aren't the shittiest-personality brainlet normies
well, I'm from Europe. US must be an awful place to live in, really. In EU you can just go to a top uni and see variety of people with numerous interests and often truly brilliant minds.
>b-but the academia is left-leaning in every country!!!
even if this were 100% true - so what? the smart people realize that and just avoid potential brainwash like fire. My uni's literature course holds ONE undergraduate seminar about comparative study and comparing LGBT discourses (whatever that babble exactly means to them). Guess what, it attracts all the art hoes and clueless kids with low GPA, and you can simply enjoy whatever you are pursuing with your friends.

[Anonymous No.11225435]

>>11224975
yeah but how do i get a following and notoriety to even get on their radar? i wish ghengis khan wrote a book or something teaching the average peasant how to create his own warband. i play 3 hours of mount and blade every day to try to get a feel for war, but its not really accurate. wtf bros.

[Anonymous No.11225567]

>>11225435
1. Join le LÉ
2. Make it through training without being killed by slavs hazing you in broken French
3. Avoid dying in the Amazon rainforest or the Algerian desert for a couple years while making contacts with the rough human detritus surrounding you
4. Turn these contacts into a mercenary army loyal to you with directed goals and enough presence to attract more
5. Get funding from a bunch of white nationalist spergs to buy hardware
6. Coup some poor African hellhole and kill all the child soldiers defending it
7. Take over and tell the white bois they're not actually invited and enjoy Outer Heaven in peace

[Anonymous No.11225576]

>>11225200
real answer

[Anonymous No.11225588]

rick and morty fan pages

[Anonymous No.11225590]

>>11223133
>says the bugman that can't think outside prescribed notions from 4chan

yikes

[Anonymous No.11225597]

>>11225200
God bless.

[Anonymous No.11225599]

>>11223649
I wanna grow up to be that kid

[Anonymous No.11225607]

Social clubs, obviously

[Anonymous No.11225610]

>>11225607
This

[Anonymous No.11225612]

>>11225607
At the people place of gathering

[Anonymous No.11225615]

38 year old here, I've been through it all. Just to give you an idea...

- grew up in poorest area in a family of plebs
- got into top ranked university through mathematical giftedness
- worked in finance industry for six years
- earned more than my entire ancestry combined
- burned out from stress
- became an alcoholic cocaine addict
- went to psych ward
- went to rehab
- "retired" to a liberal type commune
- spent a couple of years reading and learning photography
- moved back into city
- worked at a fashion industry as a photographer

And let me tell you, there wasn't much correlation between the worth of the people and their position in society. There were insightful and profound people in the rehab house, and there were brainlet plebs at the top of the economic ladder.

My advice is just to spent time around as many people as you can and make an effort with the ones worth spending time with. It's a numbers game, just like sales.

[Anonymous No.11225634]

>>11223086
>where can one go to meet high quality people? im talking about people who are motivated and seeking the higher things in life.
A monastery.

[Anonymous No.11225649]

>>11225615
ah yes let me take advice from the coke fiend

[Anonymous No.11225660]

>>11225567
i would do just that but im a weakling with a mitochondrial disorder, but im a great public speaker and average rhetoritian. i probably wouldnt survive in africa i just want to lead the nation from a safe vantage point.

[Anonymous No.11225677]

"real recognize real" isnt just nig talk
if you still messing with muck its because you belong there. enjoy.

[Anonymous No.11225773]

>>11225649
Okay then do the opposite of what I said: spend your entire life alone in your room pretending to be better than everyone else.

[Anonymous No.11225793]

>>11225773
based

[Anonymous No.11225796]

>>11225649
People become addicts because they've had life problems. Some of those people will advise you on how to avoid those problems in the first place. If you think advice is just HOW TO MAKE MONEY FAST and HOW TO GET A SIX PACK IN SIX WEEKS then there's no hope for you.

[Anonymous No.11225870]

A few thoughts:

1. This guy
>>11225615
is right. There's good and bad, intelligent and stupid, constructive and time-wasting, diligent and slacker almost everywhere.

2. The only way to convince yourself properly of this is to get out and meet as wide a range of people as possible.

3. Remember that someone might have a relatively humble occupation because that's the limit of his talents, or because he doesn't apply himself, or because he wants to leave 99% of his mind free to work hard on something else. Also remember it's possible to put a huge amount of intelligence and artistry and wisdom and creativity into many occupations which the intelligentsia will sneer at. Auto mechanics for example, or farming, or playing poker.

4. Reading good non-fiction (especially biography) or otherwise finding out about the lives of interesting people will help confirm point (1). A few examples:

>Anthony Ludovici
said the most intelligent person he knew was a shepherd.

> Wallace Stevens
was a vice-president for an insurance company. But most insurance VPs don't write Thirteen Ways Of Looking At A Blackbird.

> Philip Larkin
was a librarian who eventually became head librarian at Hull University.

>Cormac McCarthy
was for many years a near-bum who concentrated on his writing even though it didn't sell. But for every McCarthy there are a hundred self-deluding pseuds in the same position who should just get a damn job.

5. It isn't difficult to tell the McCarthys from the pseuds if you just talk to them. Who is intelligent & who is not, who is a good person & who is not etc becomes obvious very quickly to everyone in any group that spends time together, be it a prison, a university class, a bunch of friends who go bowling, whatever. Despite this, most people simply don't care that much and will "go with the tide". If you want to spend time with worthwhile people, one prerequisite is spending less time with non-worthwhile people.

6. The most important characteristic of highly effective people is hours of hard work. If they're creative artists or intellectuals that means being alone. This does make it slightly harder to socialize with them.

[Anonymous No.11225953]

>>11223110
ah yes I too like Ben Shapiro

[Anonymous No.11226078]

>>11225870
There's a 1000 bums for every Cormac McCarthy because success also involves some luck. Don't fall for survivorship bias - i.e. don't focus on the success stories - because it's very likely that despite your efforts, you probably won't make it, so don't make your whole life revolve around whether you get published or not.

[Anonymous No.11226211]

>>11224878
Really? What country?

[Anonymous No.11226299]

>>11223086
Unironically: the military. There's a lot of shitbags, but a very few people discover their aptitude for leading by example and hard work. Being a high quality person is not achieved by simply being brilliant, it's also about being morally correct. It's easier than you think, but a lot of work and the opportunity to participate in some selfless cause helps a great deal. Here's how you can be one of these people: Work out every day for at least one hour. Be motivated to learn something new every day. Don't think of work or others as a burden but as a necessity. Try not to judge others. Do your job thoroughly and check your work. Put in maximum effort in everything you do, despite whatever excuses you find not to (unfair pay, personal disagreements, shit tier coworkers). Avoid alcohol and rich foods, unless you're one of those skinny genetic freaks. Don't be a flake, don't lie, and don't promise what you can't deliver. Be early, drink water, and get lots of sleep. It's just working hard.

[Anonymous No.11226370]

>>11226299
God bless. You can learn to exercise this discipline outside the military, but if you haven't acquired those values at a young age, or a catastrophic life-event doesn't jolt you into that attitude later, chances are you wouldn't be able to acquire that amount of self-control on your own.

[Anonymous No.11226890]

>>11226078
You are right, but there's a further point to be made. McCarthy did try to get published, but by no means did he make his life revolve around it. He made his life revolve around his art, which then allowed him to get published when the chance arose.

>>11226299
Look, you're not wrong, I've met some Green Beret's who can recite Just War Theory and all its entailing psychological nuances and ethical dilemmas while still drinking you under the table. But I'm deeply suspicious that I have to subject myself to any sort of institutionalized mechanism in order to find better quality people (especially when those individuals have to disappear at some point to make room for the original forum: the machine, which is aimed at conflict, defense, etc, which are highly contentious things to deem worth my precious time let alone my life).

[Anonymous No.11227871]

>>11226299
good answer, thank you. signed, OP

[Anonymous No.11229620]

>>11223086

[Anonymous No.11229802]

>>11229620
same

[Anonymous No.11229945]

>>11226299
This. I used to hang out with my friends from school. They are fucking hilarious, but also boozeheads of the highest order. Now I only hang ocasionally and I reduced my alcoholl consumtion to only one nice beer peer weekend day.
I've met many wonderful people doing small courses or sports. I find that the context also plays a part in what you could do eventually with a person. If you meet someone in a club, that doesn't automatically imply they are degenerates (as anyone with a working brain knows), but it certainly moves the relationship in a direction (my hangout buddy).

[Anonymous No.11231196]

>>11226890
You're not gonna make it.

>>11227871
>>11226370
>>11229945
Hope you lads find the discipline to discover what you are capable of.

[Anonymous No.11231277]

if you're american & no health problems, navy seals is quite exclusive if you make it.

[Anonymous No.11231679]

>>11223649
this dude wylin out goddamn

[Anonymous No.11231943]

>>11223649
based

[Anonymous No.11231954]

>>11223086
>jamie open your mouth let's see those big old pearls of yours
>omg she actually did it

[Anonymous No.11231993]

>>11225660
you are basically bane from batman
watch the dark knight rises and get inspo from there
you must steroid yourself to a very strong physical and martial presence. maybe use an exoskeleton too? at least partly.

[Anonymous No.11232083]

>>11223086
You're going to find ~30% of humanity is what you're looking for, to get started, and if you keep at it you'll find the 1% within the 1% of "the 1%" that's worthwhile to be around.
>tfw 1% of humanity in economic terms is anything above ~60-70k/yr
>no face when most of the motivated people are only "available" in a two hour period any given day

As long as you learn how to block the wrong things, and stay attuned to higher senses without coming down, you're all good. The fact you're curious/asking in the first place means you're not as likely to stay within this board (read: site)'s plague-like conditioning toward the lethargic-sardonic attitude.

>I found a couple interesting people at self help/life coaching seminars, but most of them were train wrecks with no concept of higher-order prioritizing (400k in debt, takes out another 50k for seminar).
>Entrepreneurs can be quality if you meet them after their first 15-17 failures, and their lives are relatively stable. Otherwise you run risks of them befriending you for resources.
>Anywhere you go, if you keep reaching higher levels of living, you'll find more and more interesting people who are motivated and aiming for their own definition of success. Granted, you've got to have a reason other than just because or for the money. Can't get past death without a reason why it should let you pass.

[Anonymous No.11232086]

>>11232083
>high quality people in terms of economic success
bugman

[Anonymous No.11232093]

>>11232083
>>tfw 1% of humanity in economic terms is anything above ~60-70k/yr
if you're going to evaluate people soley on economics get it right. top 1% is 150k a year before the age of 26, then 320k+ a year by 35

[Anonymous No.11232113]

>>11224823
This is lethargic, and empirically false.

Look at half the celebrities in Murica, and almost all the famous people globally, most had some really fucked up hardships they overcame from years of sticking with the "A'ight, I got this.' attitude.

>Les Brown
>Oprah
>Don Peña
>JK Rowling
People talk shit and call it success bias, but don't bother looking at the many failures of successful people. Even the craftsperson who's living a life of quiet in a small town, with a family and a few close friends.

If you want something for it, fucker, go get it. Who is actually telling you to back down or they put lead in your mother's fanny?
>No one.
>There is no one stopping you, except you.

>t. Giganiga

[Anonymous No.11232154]

>>11232086
>points out the truth behind the "1%" bs
>bugaboo here takes it to mean economic stability = sole measure of success
What a gaffe.

>>11232093
68k globally.
>get it right

[Anonymous No.11232197]

>>11232154
>caring about non-whites

[Anonymous No.11232852]

>>11224856
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.11232871]

>>11223649
I was expecting Styx. Severely disappointed.

[Anonymous No.11232911]

>>11223086
>people who are motivated and seeking the higher things in life
I figured there was something wrong with me, considering my lack of motivation.

[Anonymous No.11233239]

You have to meet a lot of people, there's no other way around it. If you get to knew new people all the time, eventually you'll run into someone who is smart and interesting enough and who you want to talk to. Also, keep in mind that people often have a lot of interests they don't talk about. It can be quite refreshing to talk to people you already know about totally different topics that you used to, might reveal things about them you didn't know.
also, this >>11225870
NOT this >>11226299 , military is retarded

[Anonymous No.11233263]

>>11226299
Been thinking of being a marine after I graduate college next May. Actually I’ve been thinking about it my entire life. Is this the “calling” the commercial speaks of? Or is it because my grandfather was an 0317 scout sniper? Am I a retard? Probably, but it’s better than my current path of 9-5’dom, no?

[Anonymous No.11233441]

"High quality" people are extremely rare, it's like trying to find a unicorn. Realistically it's easiest to find them on certain corners of the internet.

[Anonymous No.11233503]

>>11223649
Damn, gen z really is the antithesis of the millennial abortion.

[Anonymous No.11233531]

OP is just looking for rich kids who read books lol

[Anonymous No.11233583]

Whoever you are, wherever you are, such people will gravitate towards you if you're worthy of their attention. Of course, it will be easier to find such specimens at an Ivy League than a trailer park, but still they are literally everywhere