/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11215777]

>"Do you like X author?" But anon, he is racist/xenophobic/sexist"

[Anonymous No.11215797]

>>11215777
Get on

[Anonymous No.11215809]

>>11215777

Man, I hate that I have actually experienced this once. Just talking about a biography of T. Roosevelt and how I found it funny that his family bought him a shotgun for his thirteenth birthday only to find out by how abysmal a shot he was that he could only see like 20 feet in from of him. Then he got his first pair of glasses.

Friend chimes in, "And he was a racist."
How was that relevant in anyway? And what did she even mean? What about FDR, was that who she was thinking of?

[Anonymous No.11215818]

>>11215809
Just an excuse they use to get out of having to read an author.

[Anonymous No.11215831]

>>11215797
>WHIRRRRRRRRRR

[Anonymous No.11215843]

>>11215809
It has happened to me quite often with lovecraft and Goethe

>"Lovecraft hated black people" so he did with irish people but i don't see complains
>"Goethe was sexists, look at how he portrays women" 99% of writers before 1950 had patriarcal ideas in their writings, it is just a problem of an era not a person

[Anonymous No.11216136]

>>11215777
That's why I don't talk about many of the books I read in public.

[Anonymous No.11216154]

>>11215777
I like saying this about Lovecraft only to bait a response.
And honestly, that's really the only thing you could ever say about Lovecraft, considering how fucking irredeemable his writing is.

[Anonymous No.11216170]

>>11215777
>mfw reading Mein Kampf in public and someone come up and tell me this
Nice trips.

[Anonymous No.11216429]

I was actually accused of being a Nazi for reading a dual biography of Stalin and Hitler.

[Anonymous No.11216476]

who gives a fuck what brainlets think

[Anonymous No.11216504]

>>11216154
Nah way dude is a master of prose, and he got a way of getting in people's heads that I don't see any other writers are able to match. Not for everyone but there's stuff to him

[Anonymous No.11216513]

Don't even bother engaging with these people. Wagner's (actually quite overstated) anti-Semitism does not take anything away from his tremendously significant body of work. Same goes for literature—be proud of reading your Conrad!

[Anonymous No.11216565]

>>11215843
>Lovecraft hated black people
didn't he "grow out" of it at some point in life?

[Anonymous No.11216599]

>>11216565
Yeah but to this day people still try to attack works like Shadow over innsmouth for being anti diversity and anti racial mixing or Nyarlathotep as a stereotype of immigrants.

[Anonymous No.11216616]

>Do you like X author? But anon, he was a degenerate and a homosexual

[Anonymous No.11216662]

>>11216616
Fuck off. Keep this anti-leftist. We are proud to be against degeneracy here, try the redpill

[Anonymous No.11216685]

>>11216616
That's a genuine critique. Reading a book from a racist won't necessarily make you a racist because their racism doesn't always pervade the ideology which informs the work but a homosexual is much more devious. Everything they do is informed by their identity which is prior to everything they do and it's not always apparent. It's impossible to live a homosexual lifestyle without being a hedonist and a relativist. That's their philosophy and just like everyone else they think they're right and they're trying to convince other people that they're right even unconsciously through fictional stories.

A practical example of how they're dangerous to society would be the sexual revelation. We let them enter our minds and they've slowly changed people. It's been a disaster.

[Anonymous No.11216722]

>>11216685
We are better off as virtuous virgins mate. Don't ever fall for degeneracy. Praise Kek.

[Anonymous No.11216726]

>>11215797
Is this a new meme? I'm laughing way too hard.

[Anonymous No.11216746]

>>11216722
Yes of course. The only reason to ever oppose relativism and hedonism is because you're a virgin who can't get none.

[Anonymous No.11216756]

>>11216685
>because their racism doesn't always pervade the ideology

[Anonymous No.11216767]

>>11216756
You can read nothing but Lovecraft all day long and it won't make a slightly bit racist. You may notice some racism but it's not trying to convince you to become racist.

[Anonymous No.11216771]

>Céline? Oh yeah that collaborationist guy?

[Anonymous No.11216781]

>reading call of Cthulhu
>main character is stabbed by what lovecraft describes as a "aquatic negro"

[Anonymous No.11216787]

>>11216685
>Read a poem by Hart Crane
>Suddenly feel a strange urge to suck cocks
wtf!

[Anonymous No.11216792]

>>11215797
Simply epic

[Anonymous No.11216795]

>>11216787
No it's more subtle than that. These authors have a specific and harmful ideology and they make it attractive through their work. It has nothing to do with turning people gay but turning people into hedonists.

[Anonymous No.11216805]

>>11216795
>read Ulysses by James Joyce
>start feeling a strange urge to sniff farts after page 385
What's happening here

[Anonymous No.11216807]

I like houellebecqs take about lovecraft. That his horror was fed by seeing his country being flooded with disgusting immigrant creatures.

>Also noted is Houellebecq's exegesis of Lovecraft's racial preoccupations, which he traces to a 24-month period during which Lovecraft lived in the comparatively racially mixed New York City of the 1920s,[3] where, Houellebecq says, Lovecraft learned to take "racism back to its essential and most profound core: fear." He notes the recurring image in Lovecraft's fiction of a mammoth, hideous city teeming with terrifying beings

[Anonymous No.11216853]

>>11216805
I think what's going on here is that my views upset you and you don't know how to respond or argue. All you can do is talk nonsense.

[Anonymous No.11216880]

>>11215777
(And that's a good thing.)

[Anonymous No.11216902]

>>11216853
>Read Plato
>Suddenly a strange urge to practice παιδεραστία takes hold of me
Is this what they call "starting with the Greeks"?

[Anonymous No.11216913]

>>11215843
turns out, you can only portray women as 'empowered' middle management career hags (Wonder Woman/Beyonce/Hillary types). this just feeds into the tyranny of the present and pop culture worship, normies need a steady drip of vox thinkpieces to convince them they are 'progressive' and moral for watching the latest prestige tv dreck or capeshit extravaganza while being 'critical' about its 'problematic' aspects, and appreciating the vibrant variety of races and genders so magnanimously represented. The past is bad and even thinking about it will contaminate you and make you a bad person. The social media news cycle is the oral homeric universe born again this time at the service of a banal managerial liberast ethos, Rawls meets Marvel and PepsiCo, in the future, everyone will get a superhero role model that 'looks like them', long reduced to identity political labels and CGI punch-persons

[Anonymous No.11216940]

>>11215797

[Anonymous No.11216945]

>>11216913
>tfw progressive but hate american socjus movement
what do?

[Anonymous No.11216951]

>>11216913
Based analysis.

[Anonymous No.11216959]

>>11216940
Let's roll

[Anonymous No.11217037]

>>11216767
What do Lovecraft have to do with ideology?

[Anonymous No.11217054]

>>11216945
in the end, it's all about social media and marketing, normies want to feel like they are decent people and their consumer choices are meaningful. providers of content driven neuro-feedback loops and pop culture commodities are all too happy to oblige. just don't engage, read books, befriend interesting people. Reactionary feedback loops are a waste of time, as are the meta-feedback loops that react to the reactionaries coming to the defense of multibillion culture industry properties.

https://www.vox.com/first-person/2018/5/14/17345162/meghan-markle-royal-wedding-2018-race
https://www.vox.com/summer-movies/2018/5/22/17376052/deadpool-2-writers-fridging-women-in-refrigerators

THEY ARE ONLY PERSECUTING A REFLECTION OF THEMSELVES, THEY ARE PERSECUTING WHAT THEY CAN'T STAND TO LOOK AT IN THEMSELVES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-P2aXAOBW4

[Anonymous No.11217080]

>>11215777
You people are all extremely stupid, I've read: Evola, Spengler, Genealogy of Morals, Theosophical texts, accelerationist screeds, and Junger in public and talked about all those people with grills from tinder with no negative consequences at all. I've even discussed the decline of the west and eugenics openly in class and on social media and my classmates are too illiterate and nebbish to challenge me. No one has ever said anything remotely like fascist or reactionary to me. Your persecution complex is pathetic. I've brought up commie stuff and had people call me a Marxist and get upset, but never for right wing lit. They have no idea that Nazis were rooted in an ethos of intellectual culture, they assumed they were German rednecks and white overlord class. They have star wars understanding of Fascism like its the Sith or some organic force which persists in the marrow of the white race.
>>11215797
that's a man who was subjected to a sex change per Aryan fetishization of femmeboys, I don't want to "get on" at all thank you anon

[Anonymous No.11217097]

>>11217054
so basically socjus is the modern version of self righteous christian self flagellation?
>just don't engage, read books, befriend interesting people
this is good advice

[Anonymous No.11217100]

>>11216685
Good post

[Anonymous No.11217174]

>>11215777
These are all valid reasons to not read an author and only edgy kekestani manchildren will say otherwise.

[Anonymous No.11217176]

>>11217097
christian art is full of images of physical suffering, because that's what life was like for the vast majority of the population in pre-industrial times, tormented by toil, the pains of childbirth, lust, war, disease. The angst of modern post industrial societies comes from our need to feel connected all the time, which really messes with the liberal notion of the autonomous individual.