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ITT: we discuss what we think is the most influential novel of the past 100 years or so


pic related, i don't think any novel has integrated more into culture than this one

>> No.1120555
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Actually, Gibson thinks you're going to get annihilated by the bible Greatest work of fiction ever written

>> No.1120563

>>1120555
>bible
>written within 100 years
-1/10

>> No.1120568

I'm inclined to agree with OP. Although Brave New World also comes to mind, if only for the hierarchy mentality that has infiltrated into our views on society these days.

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>>1120563
>implying the question isn't most influencial as opposed to written within the time span

>> No.1120580

>>1120575
>implying that was implied

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>>1120580
>Complains that book isn't written with a 100-year time frame
>Point out that the question was actually most influential in last 100 years
>opponent tries to crabwalk out of the debate

>> No.1120588

>>1120584
i was saying that you were seeing something that wasn't implied. stop being retarded

>> No.1120593

>>1120546
how's high school going? aside from a few useful buzzwords, this book hasn't influenced much. my nomination is The Sun Also Rises.

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>>1120588

>> No.1120615

>>1120593
>aside from a few buzzwords
Not OP, but it seems to me that buzzwords represent a dramatic effect on the culture. That's why they're buzzwords, and not jargon or obscure quotations. I think it's an indication of the book's influence that when someone wants to talk about fascism or invasion of privacy, they invariably compare it to 1984.

That said, I would think Upton Sinclair's The Jungle

>> No.1120623

I'm surprised there's no Atlas Shrugged in here.

>> No.1120635

As a novel, 1984 isn't actually all that good, but it is full of some very interesting ideas and warnings about an all knowing all seeing dictatorship.

>> No.1120659

>>1120623

anthems better anyway

>> No.1120662

>>1120623
>>1120623

seriously,

1)look at objectivist philosophy
2) look at how our country has changed since, (taxes etc.)
3)shit brix

>> No.1120667

>>1120662
I'm not following.

>> No.1120677

>>1120667
butthurt liberals love to scapegoat objectivism for all their failures

>> No.1120684

>>1120677
Do people who aren't on 4chan even discuss these books? I know a few libertarians who like them, I guess, but I don't often hear them discussed, and when I do it's usually not very seriously.

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Brave New World by Aldous Huxley. Greatly influenced some concepts that are displayed in 1984.

>> No.1120705

>>1120684
>typical ad populum groupthink spotted

go back to reading "safe" books, junior

>> No.1120750

The one problem I have with 1984, the same problem that I have for Shakespeare as well. Is that's shoved down teenagers throats before they are mature enough to appreciate it (also Shakespeare is a lot better performed, as opposed to reading the script when you were 14). When I read it with my class only about 1-10 of us knew enough about the history of the world at the time of world war II (Half the fucking class didn't know who the USSR was) to understand any of the background, all the points and morales of the story were missed and half the class trashed it as being shitty and pointless.

Most teenagers cannot comprehend books beyond Dan Brown's, books with a political sense are missed entirely on them

>> No.1120761

>>1120750

Half of my year probably didn't know what the USSR was by the end of High School.

>> No.1120767

harry potter and twilight

haters gonna hate but its true =)

>> No.1120794

>>1120684
you are correct. internet libertarians (and trolls, of course) are the only people that care about them. actual writers, critics, philosophers, etc. don't care about them at all.

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10 years from now it'll definitely be Shard Mountain by Joseph Mitchell. It's pretty amazing you guys should check it out. You can read the first chapter online, for free! Just google it.

>> No.1120818

>>1120767
Books to be completely forgotten in, like, 5 years. Yeah, very influential

>> No.1120819

Ulysses.

>> No.1120821

Atlas Shrugged, which is responsible for defeating the wave of socialist sentiment worldwide in the last century.