What books should I, as a Canadian, read to become a better Canadian?

[Anonymous No.11152666]

[Anonymous No.11152688]

>>11152666
Never Cry Wolf
Anything by Atwood
Anything by Taylor

[Anonymous No.11152693]

>>11152666
Oh, the Book of Negros, too.
and checked

[Anonymous No.11152694]

>>11152666

[Anonymous No.11152749]

L’Avalée des avalés.

[Anonymous No.11152766]

the wars

[Anonymous No.11152773]

>>11152666
Provincial regulations that show the arbitrariness of your local speech laws, then the Charter of Human Rights, then a fucking newspaper in French actually from Canada you fucking Nationalist scum. Then a toastmasters guide to public speaking. Then a bunch of amazing fiction from the maritimes that I won't sully with individual earnest suggestions that don't convey their merit enough. Then bp oilman extraordinaire, pics relation poetry happening in face expressed sentiment.

Oh, and Al Purdy if you fucking yanks want to understand anything. And by Yanks, I mean anyone from Alberta, even if they call Toronto now their home. Centralist scum.

Remember when we burned the presses and sent leaflets to Habitants?

[Anonymous No.11152782]

>>11152766
Findley is good. Reminds me of pic related and S. Leacock without the humour. Nothing to write home about.

[Anonymous No.11152791]

Northope Frye

[Anonymous No.11152801]

>>11152666
I'll do a chart for the top CND someday soon, but I don't know how to get my program working.

[Anonymous No.11152814]

>>11152666

[Anonymous No.11152820]

>>11152666
I almost had a recommendation. But the milkman made him cancel it.

[Anonymous No.11152824]

no such thing as a "good canadian"

[Anonymous No.11152938]

Look into the Penguin Extraordinary Canadians series, should be easily available at the library

[Anonymous No.11153218]

>>11152666
Bear
Alice Munro
Robertson Davies

[Anonymous No.11153275]

>>11152666
In the Skin of a Lion. Also, the NCL series has a lot of important works.

[Anonymous No.11153319]

>>11152666
Dude! Wyndham Lewis. Begin with the rather late long essay Creatures of Habit, Cteatures of Change.

[Anonymous No.11153453]

>>11152666
"letters to the family", the collection of travel writing by rudyard kipling

[Anonymous No.11153458]

The same things as the rest of us. Being born in one country doesn't mean you can't relate to the rest.

[good poster No.11153461]

Tim Horton's Menu
Quebecois Genocide Manual
Blowin' in the Wind: The Radical Canadian's Survival Guide to Day of the Leafblower

[Anonymous No.11153631]

George Grant, Lament for a Nation

Northrop Frye
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_Frye#Contribution_to_the_theorizing_of_Canada

[Anonymous No.11153942]

>>11152666
How to Suck Cocks by J. Trudeau

[Anonymous No.11153973]

Clearing the Plains

[Anonymous No.11154074]

>>11153942
>>>/pol/

[Anonymous No.11154109]

>>11152666

[Anonymous No.11154127]

>>11153942
We need this faggot out, I'm tired of being made fun of...

[Anonymous No.11154168]

>>11154109
>all by conservative white males

really makes you think

[Anonymous No.11154183]

>>11154074
I am 100% not /pol/, you’re a straight up stick in the mud if you don’t find Trudeau at least a little bit funny.

[Anonymous No.11154217]

>>11154168
mel hurtig is a leftist jew. kenneth macdonald is a monarchist. paul hellyer is a lifelong liberal. grant is an odd duck. the only real "conservative" is william gairdner but even he is more of a libertarian

[Anonymous No.11154222]

jordan eterson

[Anonymous No.11154237]

>>11154217
well they are all nationalistic

[Anonymous No.11154238]

>>11152666

[Anonymous No.11154259]

>>11152666
The Canadians
Publisher: Time Life Books

[Anonymous No.11154288]

>>11152666
Anne of Green Gables, obviously.

[Anonymous No.11154295]

>>11154109
A bunch of fucking whiny deep blue dandies cried while we became a nation and then suddenly spent the next fifty years talking shit about it going to hell. Fucking Liberals are like dude, I'm doing the best I can, and you know they always put us in charge of this shit when we don't have any plans that aren't just rehashes of other people's thoughts. Meanwhile Progressive Conservatives and NDPers are continuous exchanging ideas about building a better nation, and no one fucking listens to them ever, cause dude weed bro yeah, and, does this suit make me look fat? what do you think the guys on bay street are thinking about right now? Je nu parl to le france.... Oh and everyone knows that you don't call first nations a defeated people because we reserve that term for the French. Why is it so hard for conservatives to understand that?

[Anonymous No.11154320]

>>11154109
>Nationalists bitter about Canada's GLORIOUS PSEUDO-IMPERIAL SYSTEM

[Anonymous No.11154334]

It's not especially good but you can't get taken seriously in public academia without knowing -something- from a First Nations writer

Green Grass Running Water will do in a pinch

[Anonymous No.11154375]

>>11154295
All the interesting movements in Canada are happening on a hyper-local level, any sort of national character or art is a mistake in this country.

First nations drafting their own constitutions, Khalistani political intrigue in Vancouver, small towns in Newfoundland, the farmers market down the street, these are what's truly interesting in this country... Eventually we're all going to fuck eachother into one big semi-homogonous race and history will bring along more deep-rooted provincial cultures, then we can start talking about national "high art". What's important now is resisting American multiculturalism (niggers bitching about non issues), promoting Canadian multiculturalism, and keeping local traditions alive. A volk is the necessary soil of any great artwork.

[Anonymous No.11154385]

>>11154375
>What's important now is...promoting Canadian multiculturalism

whoa my man.

kill yourself

[Anonymous No.11154415]

>>11154385
Except Canadian multiculturalism is tied to the land and folk. It's supporting organic traditions emerging from various ethnic groups in Canada in the face of increasing centralization, which eventually leads to a bunch of pampered liberals in Ottawa dictating what's "high art" and what isn't, usually at the behest of commercial interests.

It's the Amerimutt "we need moor blacc ppl reeeeeeeee" bullshit that has to be stopped. The best way to stop that is fostering strong organic local traditions in the face of increasing centralized power and pampered liberals in Ottawa dictating culture.

Tradition is the root of culture. Multiculturalism focused on preserving tradition is therefor good.

[Anonymous No.11154423]

>>11154375
>Khalistani political intrigue in Vancouver
I've lived in Vancouver for the past 15 years and this is literally not a thing

[Anonymous No.11154428]

>>11154423
Well shit I was really hoping that city had something going for it.

[Anonymous No.11154454]

>>11154334
what a terrible book

[Anonymous No.11154456]

>>11154415
Why should I support Khalistani shitskins in Vancouver promoting their own culture and ideas in Canada? Your version of multiculturalism will lead to balkanization of what should be an entirely white-european country into a mishmash of random states that have no business being near each other. Yes, Khalistan and New India right beside new China and The Stoner's Republic of Cascadia. BCs future is bright.

[Anonymous No.11154462]

>>11154428
If you were smart enough to focus your efforts on acquiring real estate, it's a dope place to be.

>>11154454
agreed but it's not like there's any good Native fiction out there besides the oral legends & stories

[Anonymous No.11154465]

>>11154375

[Anonymous No.11154472]

>>11154074
>massive faggot prime minister is a massive faggot
>"hurr /pol/ leave"

[Anonymous No.11154476]

>>11154472
You haven't left yet?

[Anonymous No.11154481]

>>11154462
>it's the "we need representation even if it's mediocre representation" argument again
I'm sorry but I slogged through GGRW over a summer course last semester and would have much rather studied Pauline Johnston, oral history or even something like WP Kinsella in its place. My anger is in no way directed towards you, I am just bitter because I was coerced into reading sub-par literature because muh social virtues
Thank you for agreeing with me that it's a bad book, even if you don't mean it
I'm done now

[Anonymous No.11154483]

>>11154476
>You haven't left yet?

[Anonymous No.11154488]

>>11154415
>canadian calls anyone a mutt
>thinks e has a culture
my poor sides

[Anonymous No.11154497]

>>11154456
Canada is an EMPIRE not a NATION dweeb. Common law and divine mandate, not volonté générale and Westphalian balance of power thnx. Long live the queen.

[Anonymous No.11154508]

>>11154481
Nah I get where you're coming from. Sucks knowing that there is so much beautiful art out there and you'll never be able to read them all, and you're actually being forced to read garbage?

It does give a sense of perspective, though, and being trying to actually criticize Native lit without offending any SJWs in the room is as good of a challenge as defending your BHons thesis

[Anonymous No.11154542]

>>11154488
>mutt

Le mot c'est Metís, maudit Amerloc.

[Anonymous No.11154561]

[Anonymous No.11155539]

Menaud maitre draveur

[Anonymous No.11155548]

I'm having fun reading Marshall Mcluhan

[Anonymous No.11155697]

>>11153275
This. Cannot recommend NCL enough. Also, Harold Horwood and Alistair MacLeod are great

[Anonymous No.11155719]

>>11152666
Being canadian is meaningless. Our values are everyone's values, so in effect we don't actually have any values. Canada fucking sucks.

T. Born and raised

[Anonymous No.11155724]

What books should I, as a giant white whale, read to become a better giant white whale?

[Anonymous No.11156263]

>>11154127
he has a lower approval rating than Trump iirc

[Anonymous No.11156642]

>>11154488
>when you're the most powerful nation on earth but have to import all your comedians from a cultureless neighbour

[Anonymous No.11156647]

>>11154497
>Canada is an EMPIRE not a NATION dweeb

can you expand on this?

[Anonymous No.11158166]

>>11156642
Imagine having to import all your norms and values from other countries so your burger kings and MacDonalds don't go around ruining everything.

[Anonymous No.11159775]

>>11152666
Oondajte
Munro
Purdy
Irving Layton

[Anonymous No.11159809]

>>11154217
>Monarchism
>Not conservative

[Anonymous No.11159841]

>>11154109
Get George Grant’s book out of that load of shit. Grant is a top tier thinker, everybody else there is a bitter fool

[Anonymous No.11159842]

>Tfw grew up in a cultureless hellhole
>People still pretend Canada west of Quebec isn't identical to America
>People still pretend Canada isn't a vassal state to America and we make independent decisions
>Tfw didn't grow up in European country with an interesting history and shared culture

[Anonymous No.11159883]

>>11159841
>implying you read anything but grant

Gairdner is actually pretty good though his books are too long

[Anonymous No.11159983]

>>11159842
Canada's history is interesting, or have you just tuned out after the basic stuff taught in history class

[Anonymous No.11159987]

>>11159842
No where in the world has "culture", its just a meme unless you think something like going to a parade is "culture"

[Anonymous No.11159989]

>>11159842
Damn Europeans and their "history". I tried to read an article on some old war but I was stopped because I wasn't born in Europe.

[Anonymous No.11160026]

>>11159983
Canada's history is trash. I've taken two university electives on it and I was tortured throughout gradeschool with it. It's literally the history of a barren land being abandoned over and over again by various European powers
>Muh furs
Take your Staples Thesis and blow it out your ass
>>11159987
brainlet

[Anonymous No.11160061]

>>11156647
Nationalism is a political philosophy brought about by the French revolution, American revolution, and gradual shift towards democracy in most countries of the world. It's easy to wikipedia this.

Now Canada was the part of the continent that opted out of the American revolution, it was the part of the Francosphere that wasn't involved in either the French revolution nor any subsequent revolutions. Many French today still call Quebec "Old France".

Our political structure is mostly inherited from the British Empire. Our multiculturalism isn't American "melting pot" idealism, its a spiritual resistance to the homogenizing forces of modern nation-statism.

With this in mind, I'd like to propose Rudyard Kipling as a Canadian author, moreso than he is today a UK author.

"No easy hope or lies
Shall bring us to our goal,
But iron sacrifice
Of body, will, and soul.
There is but one task for all—
One life for each to give.
What stands if Freedom fall?
Who dies if Canada live?"

>>11159842
Read The Trials and Sufferings of John R Jewitt, or any biography of Louis Riel, or the accounts of the first Jesuit martyrs here and tell me our history isn't interesting you pussy.

>>11155719
Nobody's stopping you from emigrating, we're better off without fags like you anyways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMYMLNtzeKQ

[Anonymous No.11160069]

>>11160026
>Muh war
>Muh "culture" forged in blood and empire
>Muh why wasn't I part of that

[Anonymous No.11160111]

>>11160069
If you were born in Europe you would have been part of it through your ancestors. You are just a no culture dweeb.

[Anonymous No.11160156]

>>11160111
Fun fact dingbat, my parents are European. Have a French citizenship and you being nostalgic for my culture is pathetic boardering on appropriatation. No one gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.11160199]

>>11160156
Too bad you threw it all away when you were born in no culture land

[Anonymous No.11160206]

>>11160199
Its time to leave the suburbs kid, get out see your country

[Anonymous No.11160266]

>>11160111
>>11160026
>>11160199
>t.

[Anonymous No.11160287]

>>11154465
Thanks for the recommendation anon, reading this now, its really good.

[Anonymous No.11160342]

>>11154456
Most Sikhs in Canada like me think their a fuckin joke and want them banned from public demonstrations, why the fuck don’t they just attempt to decentralize the state like they did in the past, the fuckin autists

[Anonymous No.11160357]

>>11154481
In Vancouver before any speech, talk, announcement etc. takes place these fucks always first say which natives land were on

[Anonymous No.11160364]

>>11160206
The suburbs are a North American thing.

[Anonymous No.11160469]

>>11160061
>Read The Trials and Sufferings of John R Jewitt, or any biography of Louis Riel, or the accounts of the first Jesuit martyrs here and tell me our history isn't interesting you pussy.
Wow it's fucking nothing. It's also manditory reading starting in grade fucking 10, so I'm not sure why you'd assume I wasn't aware of it. It's fucking BORING. The Red River Rebellion was a fucking blip on the screen. I know about our fucking history. If I could wipe it from my brain to make room for other information I would.

[Anonymous No.11160640]

>>11160469
>A king who singlehandedly learns multiple languages completely foreign to him, expertly navigates multiple diplomatic crisis using empires far bigger than his own against each other to his advantage, who's natural nobility wins even the respect and admiration of his own slaves.

>A community fighting against the forces of modernity to preserve their way of life, creating their own state, all while their leader falls deeper and deeper into a profound and fanatical mysticism.

>The best and brightest of Europe facing hard inhospitable conditions on the very periphery of the "known world", managing to convert entire people's to Christianity, and dying brutal yet dignified deaths in the name of their religion.

That's just a couple of instances in what, the last few hundred years? Not to mention all the renegade nobles, eccentrics, treasure hunters, revolutionaries etc. that only show up in the margins of recorded Canadian history. And hell, lets not even talk about the oral traditions of different first nations here. In my town alone I've heard stories of zombies, sea monsters, islands popping out of nowhere, and hawaiians crossing the pacific. Pretty sure there were a couple raids on the Aztec empire back in the day too.

The reason you think it's boring is because there hasn't been a good literary text made of it yet.
Because we're a young country.
If you had half a brain you'd realize that Canadian history is a bunch of incredible anecdotes waiting to be turned into stories, its incredibly fertile ground for literature, poetry, history, art, etc. Do you think Herodotus sat around crying about how Greece only had a handful of good epics? Fucking idiot.
People thinking Canadian history is boring is a great pleb filter between those who have an imagination and the morons who need to be spoon fed picture books of fancy castles and inbred aristocrats.

[Anonymous No.11160852]

>>11160640
>Purposefully conflating historical events, mythologies and literatures into a single entity to prove a point
>Anyone who disagrees lacks imagination
>"We're a young country" (but our pre-history counts)
>Hawaiians crossing the Pacific is somehow equivalent to zombies when Hawaiian presence in B.C. has been extensively reccorded and peaked in the 1800s with the establishment of Fort Langley

You've made this impossible to approach. Tall tales and literary epics aren't fucking history, they're fiction with trace elements of history. I'm clearly not talking about Canadian literature, I'm talking about what has actually taken place in this barren hellhole of a "country".

[Anonymous No.11160867]

[Anonymous No.11160943]

>>11160852
>I'm a meek academic bugman under the positivist delusion of "factual historical narrative"

I'm talking about pre-European contact Hawaiian voyages, a lot more exciting when you're considering a group of men paddling across the pacific.
And lets not get started on the indians that used to go whaling in fucking canoes.
What exactly is interesting to you anyways? Europeans chimping out on each other like clockwork every generation?

And besides we are posting on a LITERATURE board in a thread about Canadian LITERATURE. You said CULTURE, not bland academic historical journals, so why are you moving the goalposts all of a sudden? In any latin language "history" and "story" mean the exact same thing anyways, its just your own delusions if you think there's a substantial difference between the two. Tall tales and literary epics are the cornerstone of culture, and just because you're too unimaginative/unperceptive to notice doesn't mean Canada doesn't have a culture.

[Anonymous No.11160959]

>>11160852
Also all the examples I posted in greentext are actual undisputed recorded history, there's a very clear structure in my post where the historical, mythological, and literary are divided by line breaks into separate paragraphs. It's not "purposefully conflating" those things at all.

[Anonymous No.11160967]

>>11160943
Man I am going to fucking muck you when I wake up and find the time to respond to this faggotry
I have no gf goodnight

[Anonymous No.11160978]

There are people in this thread right now who believe Canada has a culture and that being " Canadian " actually means anything.

[Anonymous No.11161194]

>>11160967
>I’m gonna right a decent response really it’s gonna totally wreck you dude

[Anonymous No.11161670]

>>11152666
The Declaration of Independence
The Constitution of the United States of America

[Anonymous No.11162501]

>>11154465
Clarke is some great baroque ribald awesome shit.

[Anonymous No.11162599]

>>11160640
>>11160061
Based.

You should put together a reading list for leafs

[Anonymous No.11163287]

>>11160640
I like you. I found canadian history boring in grade school, but once you get over the adolescent infatuation with military history there's so much fun to be had.

Also its a shame /lit/ is so hard on Robertson Davies. I feel like the Cunning Man would resonate with a lot of people on this board.

[Anonymous No.11163340]

>>11160026
>Take your Staples Thesis and blow it out your ass
Ha!

[Anonymous No.11163907]

>>11154462
The Boomer's sold out Vancouver

[Anonymous No.11165020]

>>11160867
I honestly have only heard about this book through memes and thought it was totally obscure, but just the other day saw it in Chapters.

[Anonymous No.11165032]

>From the point of view of literature, the American Revolution was worth it. Canada, New Zealand, Australia on the other hand, can't produce anything of value.
What did he mean by this?

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[Anonymous No.11165139]

>>11165032
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21h0G_gU9Tw

Not the first person to express the sentiment, won't be the last. Not really true, but it's hard to dispute that a bunch of idiots with guns will say whatever the fuck they want and do so until someone listens. The entire American literary sentiment is just sublimated warlust, melodramatic blue/red -mindset antagonism, and uncultured decadence that has little to no relevance to readers, nor can satiate the intense desire for a coherent reality that its purposeless people for people's sake crave.

[Anonymous No.11165142]

>>11165139
cope

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[Anonymous No.11165160]

>>11165142
Couplands decent, yeah.

[Anonymous No.11165169]

>>11152820
kek