/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11150620]

What does /lit/ smoke?

[Anonymous No.11150626]

>>11150620
chop shop rollies

[Anonymous No.11150635]

>>11150620
Camel non-filtered.

[Anonymous No.11150636]

If it ain't dip, it ain't shit.

[Anonymous No.11150643]

>>11150635
This.

[Anonymous No.11150715]

cum

[Anonymous No.11150717]

Unironically weed.

[Anonymous No.11150726]

>>11150717
does it help you in creating good shitposting

[Anonymous No.11150727]

marlboro gold

[Anonymous No.11150733]

>>11150726
No.
Weed inebriates and hurts cognition.
Tobacco in contrast is a cognitive enhancer that stimulates the creative juices in the brain.

[Anonymous No.11150748]

>>11150733
so tobacco for the shitposting
and weed to relax after that
good to know

[Anonymous No.11150768]

>>11150733
>weed hurts cognition
This. 2 months after quitting my imagination and motivation are roaring back

[Anonymous No.11150778]

>>11150620
>What does /lit/ smoke?
Cock, of course.

[Anonymous No.11150790]

Cock

[Anonymous No.11150795]

Coke sprinkled in a cigarette is God-tier.

[Anonymous No.11150812]

>>11150620
Dude you are like a baby, watch this

[Anonymous No.11150831]

>>11150778
>>11150790
>>11150795

[Anonymous No.11150834]

>>11150831
xD

[Anonymous No.11150839]

>>11150831
no please stop mr. adolf, it's not my fault that i'm a degenerate

[Anonymous No.11150852]

>>11150620
dokha

[Anonymous No.11150908]

Reminder, tobacco smoking does not cause cancer and all claims that it does are based on faulty non-randomized epidemiological studies that try to prove causation from a (contrived) correlation.

To this very day, scientists are unable to induce cancer in animals using tobacco smoke. If it caused cancer, surely experimental studies (hard science) would show the same results as the human epidemiological ones.
See for yourself.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9608635
>No statistically significant increase in the incidence of malignant lung tumors was seen in either species as a result of smoke exposure, a finding that does not agree with the results of epidemiological studies in humans. Possible reasons for this lack of correlation are given.

Not only is it harmless, it confers a number of health benefits. It has nootropic, life-extending, anti-inflammatory and anti-carcinogenic effects. The overwhelming majority of supercentarians (ie, those living in excess of 100 years) were smokers.
Smokers have longer telemers and smoking itself is known to upregulate KLOTHO expression which is associated with longevity. Go ahead and look around you for something that has this many medicinal benefits – you will find nothing coming close.

I would never advocate that ANYONE smoke cheap, mass produced cigarettes laden with fire-safe chemicals like polyvinyl acetate [a neutoxic glue] with (known defective) and filters on them.

The filters deposit fine strands of cellulose acetate fibers directly into the lung (which themselves are often in fire retardants), eventually resulting inflaming and irreversibly damaging lung tissue.
Worse, the filters aeorsolize the smoke (not so dissimilar to nanoparticle toxicity), allowing it to penetrate much more deeply into the lung than it otherwise would (filters strands included).

https://academic.oup.com/jnci/article-abstract/109/12/djx075/3836090/Cigarette-Filter-Ventilation-and-its-Relationship

http://tobaccocontrol.bmj.com/content/11/suppl_1/i51

In fact, I would advocate rolling your own cigarettes which in the USA costs under $1 per pack. The benefits will easily exceed the cost.

Any intelligent person should be able to evaluate the case and evidence presented before them and conclude, at the very least, the the harms of tobacco use are grossly exaggerated.

[Anonymous No.11150931]

>>11150908
>What is heart disease?

[Anonymous No.11150934]

>>11150908
To extended it even further, tobacco smoke has anti-carcinogenic properties and protects against cancer.

http://journals.lww.com/health-physics/Abstract/1982/01000/Carcinogenic_Effects_of_Radon_Daughters,_Uranium.4.aspx

The light tobacco 'smoking' dogs in this study lived longer than control when exposed to radon.
37% of the control group (NO SMOKE) dogs developed cancer.
Only 5% of the smoking dogs developed cancer!

Do you want to go even further down the rabbit hole? Most smokers who go on to get cancer, only got cancer after stopping!

>Are lung cancers triggered by stopping smoking?
http://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877(06)00780-8/fulltext

This shouldn't even come as a surprise to those with a background in medicine after seeing the radon dog study because this makes sense! Tobacco suppresses various cancer growth (eg: IGF-1) factors and the body will upregulate them in response! You can liken this to taking the best medicine for stopping cancer for years on end and you suddenly quit.


For the beginner, looking for arguments in layman's terms, look no further than Dr. Whitby's books. Yes it are older but to this day, anti-smoking science relies on the same, flawed non-randomized epidemiological studies and his valid criticisms of them still apply.


William Whitby, M.D. shows that anti-tobacco "science" isn't science at all!
>The Smoking Scare Debunked
http://wispofsmoke.net/PDFs/Whitby.pdf

>Smoking is Good For You
https://www.scribd.com/document/44685607/Smoking-is-Good-for-You-William-T-Whitby


Another fantastic resource:
Collection of studies showing the health benefits of smoking tobacco:
http://wispofsmoke.net/goodforyou.html

[Anonymous No.11150947]

>>11150620
I never enjoyed smoking

[Anonymous No.11150948]

Always found it strange that in literally every other country I have been to everyone adds filters to their self-rolled smokes.

[Anonymous No.11150959]

>>11150908
>>11150934
you're so dense lmao

[Anonymous No.11150965]

MARLBORO

[Anonymous No.11150966]

>>11150948
Hvorfor? I've been around CPH, multiple, if not most people, do it there as well.

[Anonymous No.11150977]

>>11150931
Patently false.
You have sample selection bias from the scare campaign of smoking.
You see, intelligent people not presented any counter arguments, generally take the arguments to heart and quit or never start smoking.
Therefore, the remaining population of smokers is horrible and sampling from them, is comprised of people with ill-health and bad lifestyle habits in general. They are not self-conscious about their health, so of course they are statistically more likely as a group to have heart disease. Seldom do epidemiological smoking studies control for lifestyle and dietary habits.
There is nothing inherent to tobacco to suggest it predisposes one to heart disease, even among the ill-health, fat, Americans who smoke garbage commercial cigarettes, they are more likely to survive heart attacks if they smoke.

>Cigarette smoking is a well-established risk factor for cardiovascular disease yet several studies have shown lower mortality after acute coronary syndromes in smokers compared with non-smokers, the so called 'smoker's paradox'

This should come as no surprise.
Tobacco contains Coenzyme Q10 and other cardioprotective compounds. This is why smokers are more likely to survive a heart attacks.
It also has the paradoxical effect of lowering blood pressure for many due to +NO effects. This is why e-cigarettes raise blood pressure and tobacco doesn't.

[Anonymous No.11150980]

>>11150966
Eg er i frå Noreg, det er ikkje ålment i det heile å roykje sjolvrulla sigarettar med filter her. I alle hove ikkje utfore Oslo.

[Anonymous No.11150987]

>>11150934
man this is some advanced shilling

[Anonymous No.11150990]

Lucky Strike

[Anonymous No.11150991]

>>11150977
>Therefore, the remaining population of smokers is horrible and sampling from them, is comprised of people with ill-health and bad lifestyle habits in general. They are not self-conscious about their health, so of course they are statistically more likely as a group to have heart disease. Seldom do epidemiological smoking studies control for lifestyle and dietary habits.
There have been studies about lifestyle and dietary habits. Just they proved your point: smokers who ate as much fruit and vegetables as the non-smokers were as healthy as the vegans.

[Anonymous No.11151002]

marb reds/pipe

[Anonymous No.11151012]

>>11150991
Let us not forget the Japanese studies! They show a tenth (1/10!) the rate of lung vs those conducted in the US by researchers funded contingently by the American Lung Association. It is well known that the lifestyle, BMI and other parameters of the average Japanese person are far more favorable than their American contemporaries.

http://cebp.aacrjournals.org/content/10/11/1193.full
>The OR for lung cancer among current smokers relative to nonsmokers in the United States was 40.4 (95% CI = 21.8–79.6), which was >10 times larger than that in Japan when using hospital controls (OR = 3.5; 95% CI = 1.6–7.5)

Interesting to note too, despite having a high rate of smoking, (which is associated with "decreased mortality" in the west, by 15 years according to many sham studies), Japan long held and continues to hold the title for the longest average life expectancy.

[Anonymous No.11151022]

The Black Poppy.

[Anonymous No.11151036]

Maybe it doesn't give you cancer but smokers still
>smell like shit
>have yellow teeth
>cough and spit all over the place
>have unhealthy/digusting skin
>have no stamina
>addicted to "le cigarette after coffee/meal/sex/sleep is a must :))"
>always lack the money for more important stuff but still buy them ciggs
>convince themselves that they can quit anytime
>sometimes are covered in ash or there are evident burnholes on their clothes
>are noxious and hysterical when in abstinence

[Anonymous No.11151045]

used to smoke chesterfields but I quit. I still think smoking looks cool but it would devastate my mother to know that I smoked

[Anonymous No.11151078]

>>11151045
>mommy no likes smokies

[Anonymous No.11151101]

>>11151036
>>smell like shit
Tobacco has an excellent smell, and is highly rated, which is why perfumers frequently incorporate it into premium cologne blends. It invokes antiquity and masculinity.
Most women find the scent attractive.
You are confusing the smell with the old, reconstituted sheet tobacco and additive laden paper, that would settle in cheap fabric seats in your friend's mother's car as a child. This is where the "bad smell" notion of smoke comes from.
>have yellow teeth
If you do not get regular teeth cleanings, perhaps. You do realize, tea stains teeth more easily than does tobacco smoke?
>cough and spit all over the place
Coughing is the result of two things
1. Filter usage which deposits posit fine strands of cellulose acetate fibers into the lungs, where it can only be expelled through coughing. People who smoke unfiltered cigarettes seldom if ever experience coughing if kept to under 10 cigarettes per day.
2. Very heavy cigarette smoking.
>have unhealthy/digusting skin
Tobacco increases antioxidants and youth hormones (DHEA, testosterone, etc) which enhances skin quality and deters the accumulation of skin lipofuscin. This is why smokers often have less brown spots and generally live longer.
>have no stamina
False.
The World Anti Doping Association banned nicotine this year because of it's stimulative effects.
Not to mention, many Olympic Gold medalists were smokers but that isn't really relevant or an argument.
I will concede and say tobacco can impair peak athletic performance. However, it is unsurpassed for intellectual and mental stamina and performance. Profiler writer and composers have written at length with it
>addicted to "le cigarette after coffee/meal/sex/sleep is a must :))"
Tobacco and coffee are extremely synergistic, so that would be expected.
Sex is exhaustive. Understandably, tobacco would attenuate this.
Digestion takes blood flow away from the brain. The tobacco ensures the mind is still stimulated and peculating with brilliant thoughts.
Examining this, leads one to conclude that tobacco use in these circumstances is justifiable.
>convince themselves that they can quit anytime
Intelligent people can quit at any time. The withdrawal symptoms are no worse than caffeine withdrawal that leaves you with a bad headache for a few days and some mental impairment thereafter but then it's over.
The only people who cannot quit on a whim are low IQ
>sometimes are covered in ash or there are evident burnholes on their clothes
Confirmation bias
>are noxious and hysterical when in abstinence
Confirmation bias.

[Anonymous No.11151108]

>>11151101
>The only people who cannot quit on a whim are low IQ
Subject to behavioral addictions. Much like "Pica"***

[Anonymous No.11151115]

>>11151101
T. Roger Scruton

[Anonymous No.11151123]

>>11151101
how mentally ill do you have to be to be this contrarian?

[Anonymous No.11151130]

>>11150620
if I smoke, I smoke marlboro reds
but I don't smoke
If I dip, I dip kodiak wintergreen
but I don't dip

[Anonymous No.11151148]

>>11151101
Imagine being THIS addicted to nicotine.

[Anonymous No.11151154]

>>11151123
>lists bad reasons that do not align up with reality
>gets upset whenever they are debunked
>c-contrarian! Ad hominem!
You're the one who offered baseless claims and naive assumptions. "Talk shit, get hit" as the colloquialism goes.
You dismiss valid criticism of your shit post by even refusing to even read what I had written, and dismissing it as "contrarian". Moreover, you invoke an ad hominem argument in an attempt to slander. Had you actually read the post, you would see that I conceded to the point regarding stamina; hardly contrarian.
If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen.

[Anonymous No.11151163]

>>11151101
most people smoke shitty mass produced tobacco

>tea stains more
That's just you trying to change subject

>keep under 10 cigarettes per day
Confirmation Bias :V

Smoker's skin is digusting, dry and covedred in bruises nonetheless

>brings writing and composing as an argument
How delusional are you ?

>Intelligent people can quit anytime
Intelligence and self control are two different things

>Confirmation Bias
Not true and you know it.

[Anonymous No.11151168]

>>11151148
https://www.gwern.net/Nicotine#performance

>Indeed, the research literature is full of results connecting nicotine with improved mental performance:

"nicotine boosted IQ scores in a small sample of smokers, specifically scores on the RAPM12 (possibly related to its increasing global connectivity since IQ is being increasingly reified as measuring the global connectivity of multiple brain subsystems)
reaction time is improved, as is inspection time and visual search (but perhaps due solely to faster motor reaction?)
pilots’ performance enhanced 4/5 as much as donepezil does; improves late-day piloting
driving performance enhanced
overnight performance on various memory & attention13 tasks ("These data suggest that when performance is being measured overnight, smokers show little or no impairment, whilst the performance of non-smokers showed performance decrements.")
faster performance on Stroop and word classification
"acute nicotine administration may exert direct beneficial effects on novelty detection and subsequent memory recognition"
in smokers, improved prospective memory (things one intends to do); Rusted et al 2005
can improve handwriting
helps ADHD (Conners et al 1996; or Levin et al 1996 - as well as OCD, see previous footnote): "Results indicate significant clinician-rated global improvement, self-rated vigor and concentration, and improved performance on chronometric measures of attention and timing accuracy."
may help depression"

[Anonymous No.11151186]

My regrets.

[Anonymous No.11151200]

>>11150908
>>11150934
Poor sources and I don't need any to see the myriad of terrible shit that happens to smokers.

[Anonymous No.11151226]

Thank you based tobaccoposter for shitting on the kind of people that ruin perfectly good pipe threads on /out/

[Anonymous No.11151234]

>>11151226
Are you autistic? Do you need someone to spout pseudo-sources at you when you're talking about beer/whiskey/any type of alcoholic beverage as well? Why not indulge in something you know is harmful, but enjoyable nonetheless, autismo.

[Anonymous No.11151238]

>>11150620
Nothing. The average pack of cigs costs over $20 here in AUS. Why would i pay that much to slowly destroy my body? To look cool? Fuck off, teenager.

[Anonymous No.11151251]

>>11151101
nice cope. just quit dude. you can do it!

[Anonymous No.11151258]

>>11150620
Nothing

[Anonymous No.11151289]

>>11151154
This is an anonymous board, you refer to a previous statement without even knowing if that was the anon that made it. You're talking to yourself. I agree with other anons, you are probably mentally ill.