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Anybody else look down on Nihilists with complete and utter disdain? It's absolute nonsense, lacking any sort of life affirmation, nihilism is the truest symptom of a weak-willed and pathetic person.

Imagine wasting away your life just because you realized there is no god, and instead of seeking out your own meaning to life you make being a dreadful, bleek, pessimistic bitch your life's mission. If youre a nihilst you need to either kill yourself or seriously get your shit together.

Nihilists are worse than Christians, Muslims, jews, etc., save the extremists. Even then I would rather hang out with an abortion clinic bomber than a nihilist.

With that said, lets help the Nihilists. Nietzsche is the obvious writer and philosopher to read if you want to be inspired towards life affirmation, but other than him, who else could one read?

>> No.11135771

Stoicism.

>> No.11135774

I kinda agree, but in less strong words.

I look around people my age and they're all so sarcastic and lifeless. They've totally and utterly internalized the stupidity of the world and seen fit to just use alcoholism, video games and Rick and Morty memes as their "purpose" in life.

Of course, it's not entirely their fault. Our globalist, late capitalism nightmare is about as spiritually damning a civilization can get. It's only inevitable a few willlets will be psychologically crushed by it all.

>> No.11135799

>>11135757
Oh come on, you're being too quick to judge.

Nihilism is fun and a realistic perspective of existence. It's dangerous, of course, because the majority of people that have, or gain, that outlook on life will most likely be, like you said, leeches or unproductive members of society. Then again, these two former categories tend to appear in any other group, regardless of the meaning they perceive.

If you can't believe in God, despite wanting to, and know that the universe is on a one way entropic trip towards oblivion, what other ideology will you inevitability fall into?

Furthermore, it doesn't necessarily stop a person to do their best. Just remembers them that if anything goes wrong, it doesn't really matter.

>> No.11135801

That strange flower, the sun,
Is just what you say.
Have it your way.

The world is ugly,
And the people are sad.

That tuft of jungle feathers,
That animal eye,
Is just what you say.

That savage of fire,
That seed,
Have it your way.

The world is ugly,
And the people are sad.

>> No.11135804

>>11135757
It's the hundredth Nietzsche thread lately. Have we been invaded by some subreddit?

>> No.11135816

>>11135757
>boomer nihilism - life SUCKS! BRB gonna kill myself
>new age nihilism - life Sucks! But at least I can snort endless coke until I die

>> No.11135822

>>11135757
How can you look down on something that doesn't even exist.

>> No.11135828

>>11135757
Whatever loser, I became a nhilist and shortly thereafter obtained a goth gf.

>> No.11135832

>>11135799
>If you can't believe in God, despite wanting to, and know that the universe is on a one way entropic trip towards oblivion, what other ideology will you inevitability fall into?


A metaphysics reconciled to these truths. Nihilism is for the plebs

>> No.11135835

>>11135816
Nothing beats a 12 hour binges of tranny porn and amphetamines

Fuck Rick and Morty, fuck alcohol.

>> No.11135839

>>11135757
nihilists could also just be depressed so don't just beat on someone for needing help / transformation

philosophy is kind of feeble in the face of mental illness but it's useful in developing a stomach for psychotherapeutic vocation IMO

>> No.11135850

Nihilists are right in the sense that there is no intrinsic meaning to life (or at least none that we can know with certainty), therefore the best they can hope for is a text that points them towards finding meaning on a personal level. For obvious reasons, there is no way to make the personal universally applicable and therefore it's impossible to point to a text that universally changes nihilists' outlook in such a profound way that they will start seeking their own meaning. What strongly resonates with one nihilist may utterly fail to impact another; the text has to be personally relatable to them in some way. Even Nietzsche knew that his philosophy wasn't for everyone.

>> No.11135871

>>11135804
Nietzsche is the board god of /lit/, I thought you knew this

>> No.11135903

Ontological nihilism=correct
Moral nihilism= the true default setting but nevertheless functionally shit

>> No.11135950

>Anybody else look down on Nihilists with complete and utter disdain?
Not me.
>It's absolute nonsense
Nihilism is logically consistent and doesn't require any leaps of faith.
>lacking any sort of life affirmation
Placing value on life affirmation is a spook. Why is life affirmation good again? Oh shit, it's just your opinion.
>nihilism is the truest symptom of a weak-willed and pathetic person
Non-nihilism is the truest symptom of a weak-willed and pathetic person.
>Imagine wasting away your life
Implying there is anything to "waste" if you are a nihilist.
>seeking out your own meaning to life
I've found my true calling. I want to start and own a Dunkin Donuts chain. This is it. My dream. Woahhh meaning, epic bro.
>a dreadful, bleek, pessimistic bitch your life's mission.
>Implying all nihilists are bleak, pessimistic, or bitches.
>If youre a nihilst you need to either kill yourself or seriously get your shit together.
If you're not a nihilist you need to either kill yourself or seriously get your shit together.
>Nihilists are worse than Christians, Muslims, jews, etc., save the extremists.
Non-nihilists are worse than Christians, Muslims, jews, etc., save the extremists.

OP IS SPOOKED AS SHIT KEK.

>> No.11136000

who are the worst? nihilists? or objectivists?

>> No.11136037

>>11135757
grasping for some sort of purpose or reason to make you feel good seems much more like something a weak willed person would do.

>> No.11136047

>>11135835
this but unironically

>> No.11136052

>>11136000
Objectivists. At least nihilists don't pretend to be intelligent.

>> No.11136060

>>11135757
there is nothing wrong with nihilism, 'meaning' is a spook you stupid faggot.

>> No.11136100

>>11135757
>can't accept that this life has no inherent meaning or purpose
>thinks he's strong willed because of it

>> No.11136208

>>11136047
>>11135835
Doing this on the reg is literally begging for a drug induced psychosis. When you get it you better hope you'll be able to put yourself together again.

You might think you tricked God, but the Devil is just waiting to collect his due.

>> No.11136256

>>11136000
objectivists, nihilists kill themselves and are generally incompetent people due to veiled hedonism and uncontrollable desire to harm themselves (because they hate themselves for existing); objectivists will murder millions of people or torture children or rape people and assume its ok because of an agreement or cost/benefit. Utilitarians are also worse for the same reason. Not believing in anything is degenerate but its a lesser evil than believing in the wrong thing.

>> No.11136268

>>11136256
I don't think you know what any of those words mean. Jesus Christ, lad.

>> No.11136281

>>11135757
Dude nobody here cares about what you think lmao.

>> No.11136286

>>11136208
>You might think you tricked God
how can you trick something that doesn't exist

>> No.11136295

>>11135757
I think you might not have great knowledge of how Nietzche's thought evolved. Schopenhauer's nihilistic writings really inspire Nietzche and through nihilism, he developed his life affirming philosophy. Slave morality is worse than just finding no objective meaning in the universe. Nihilism isn't just rejecting the existence of god. It's a break down phase that should prompt people to stop being dependent for meaning and to begin creating their own meaning in this world through their own wills.

>> No.11136303

>>11135771
lol no

>> No.11136304

>>11136295
yeah, but nietzche was a fag. sade > stirner > nietzche.

>> No.11136309

>>11135757
Any kind of religious thinking is totally unacceptable and disgusting to me, i just can't stand it, it was never part of my life, from family to my education. As for beliefs, there is art, literature, music, philosophy and Marx. You die, get eaten by worms and get effectively forgotten in two months, that's just how things are.

>> No.11136313
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>>11136309
>and marx

>> No.11136314

>>11136281
good post

>> No.11136328

>>11136313
>knee-jerk mocking of anything related to Marx as if he was wrong about anything

You're no better than a stormfag. Why are you even here, just go to /pol/ and complain about how cultural marxism is leading to white genocide or something.

>> No.11136329

>>11135757
I'm more interested in why you look at them with "complete and utter disdain". Why does this bother you so much? Let them whine in their corner if that's what they want. Why would a strong-willed, life affirming warrior poet such as yourself ever pay them any mind?

>> No.11136332

I'm not totally nihilist, but many of those things I consider default of our condition, I stick to things I like and people I love, but I would never have a child or something like that, and If I had a choice I would like not to be born.

>> No.11136337

>>11136328
*everything, not anything

>> No.11136338
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>>11136328
>marx was right
what a dummy lol. how's that labour theory of value correct, again?

>> No.11136341

If you’re not religious to some degree then you’re lying/deluding yourself if you don’t think your life is inherently nihilistic.

>> No.11136346

>>11136281
they care long enough to reply hastily but yes no one online cares what others think and the ability to smugly close off channels or flee from conflicts allows humans to pretend to intellectual integrity they never had. You cannot have honest forceful discourse with others because there are almost no consequences for anti-social or stupid behavior. Internet intellectuals evolve much less fluidly than their irl counterparts.

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>>11135771
>lol bro just suck it up xD
PURE IDEOLOGY

>> No.11136468

>>11136412
If it works, it works.