/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11134493]

Well /lit/, is he right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNAAAfLi0pM

[Anonymous No.11134497]

>he

[Anonymous No.11134504]

>>11134493
can you summarize so i don't have to actually listen to the video?

[Anonymous No.11134526]

This is satire right? Please tell me this is a joke

[Anonymous No.11134527]

>>11134526
in what sense do you expect it to be a joke?

[Anonymous No.11134529]

>>11134527
that no one can literally think it's okay to look like this
Also that picture of anita on his shelf lmao

[Anonymous No.11134540]

Contrapoints is intellectually lazy and I don't like him at all but this video was p good and the entire second section was absolutely true.

[Anonymous No.11134544]

>>11134529
>that no one can literally think it's okay to look like this
it's the current year though, how can this stuff surprise you anymore?

[Anonymous No.11134547]

>>11134540
what's it about so i don't have to watch it?

[Anonymous No.11134558]

>>11134493
>objectivism is the philosophy that america is ruled by
xherz is funny but I'm going to have to call bullshit on this one

[Anonymous No.11134559]

>>11134547
Why he left academia. Pretty uncontroversial all-in-all but he makes a jab at Phenomenology of Spirit, Rawls, and Merlou-Ponty if that kind of thing crinkles your thong.

TRIGGER WARNING

[Anonymous No.11134562]

I could beat rawls at his prime in a fight

[Anonymous No.11134563]

>>11134493
I think having an existential crisis fueled of depression and onsetting gender dysphoria is why he left academia (and reality) behind.

[Anonymous No.11134568]

>>11134559
sounds like rationalizing, but i guess he is the only """"""""""decent"""""""""" leftist youtube channel so people are going to throw money at him, so it seems like it was a financially sound decision

not sure how bad this stuff can be for your long term mental health though

[Anonymous No.11134571]

>>11134568
leftist comedy, maybe.
He's the daily show for people who are further left.
I've never heard a single video of his that actually engaged with the topic he's talking about.

[Anonymous No.11134574]

>>11134568
>but i guess he is the only """"""""""decent"""""""""" political youtube channel
ftfy

[Anonymous No.11134575]

>>11134571
>I've never heard a single video of his that actually engaged with the topic he's talking about.
i mean that sounds like standard leftist practice, it's the current year and there's no decent theory book about what went wrong in the soviet union, just shitty rationalizations and evading the issue

[Anonymous No.11134578]

>>11134574
no, the channel is not even political, it's all cultural stuff

[Anonymous No.11134580]

>>11134578
Politics isn't qualitatively separate from culture.

[Anonymous No.11134581]

>>11134574
https://youtube.com/watch?v=u-vi9elpMVo

[Anonymous No.11134583]

>>11134580
>

[Anonymous No.11134586]

>>11134493
i'd fuck him
i'd let him fuck me too

[Anonymous No.11134590]

>>11134581
You're right, I take that back.

[Anonymous No.11134592]

>>11134583
I'm not saying he's good, I'm not the guy who initially replied to you, I'm just saying there is qualitative difference between politics and culture, it's just a matter of how sharp the divide is between the opposite sides.

[Anonymous No.11134595]

her problem is that she does politics, not philosophy, so she's always going to skirt around some issues because her aim is to convert, and acknowledging certain problems are not conducive to conversion.

that's how she and like-minded youtubers justify giving a skewed picture to the public.

[Anonymous No.11134615]

>>11134493
yes

[Anonymous No.11134619]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LqZdkkBDas&t=42s

[Anonymous No.11134625]

>>11134619
The internet was a mistake

[Anonymous No.11134641]

>>11134619
I might actually watch recent contrapoints because the hormones are actually starting to work apparently.

[Anonymous No.11134653]

>>11134619
This is good

[Anonymous No.11134760]

>>11134493
how can somebody turn them self into such a vile creature and still be self aware

[Anonymous No.11134763]

>>11134760
probably looks better than the average /lit/izen

[Anonymous No.11134766]

>>11134763
prolly

[Anonymous No.11134770]

>>11134763
Can confirm

[Anonymous No.11134779]

>>11134763
if I still had my hair that wouldn't be true

[Anonymous No.11134785]

>>11134763

[Anonymous No.11134803]

>>11134641
>I might actually watch recent contrapoints because the hormones are actually starting to work apparently.
yeah I didn't think this was her from the op image, originally when I saw her channel a few months ago I had to check the archives here to see if she was a tranny or not

[Anonymous No.11134804]

>>11134493
Yes
>>11134504
No
>>11134526
>>11134529
No, but parts are supposed to be "comedy" which mix up serious discussion. Also a smidgen of this >>11134540 at times.
>>11134568
You know the 'many quotations' meme ended about a year ago and makes you look silly now right? Also political wise he/she/it is better than 95% of them. Only because he/she/it for one does pop politics, and with it does basic research that somehow many on both the left and right fail to get right.
>>11134586
Long as you say no homo at the end.
>>11134619
Watched it a while ago, problem with it is the same issue all lefty youtubers have, largly it also happens on right-wing channels et al. Their channels operate as places for "Bullshit mining", something I've come up with to name a place that calls out things that are wrong, or illogical only to shoehorn their own beliefs. Prime lefty examples are Hbomberguy, /r/badphilosophy, where right-wing places like /pol/, /r/cringeanarchy, ect. People like sargon of Akkad or even Stefan Molyneux. They all have the same tactic where they point out something wrong (even this in itself can be mixed up), then provide their own solution like le capitalism is bad, le jews ect.
>>11134763
I'm actually a solid 9

[Anonymous No.11134806]

>>11134804
>I'm actually a solid 9
post boipucci

[Anonymous No.11134820]

>>11134804

You're mentally ill. But I would still fuck you

[Anonymous No.11134870]

>>11134493
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hygx_lgmwgc

[Anonymous No.11134877]

>>11134870
what kind of world are we living on?

[Anonymous No.11134895]

>>11134870
holy...

[Anonymous No.11134932]

>>11134497
He.

[Anonymous No.11134941]

>>11134493
Although he's clearly psychologically damaged I still kind of respect him and I would probably hang out/talk with him.

[Anonymous No.11134942]

If you watch the video (which no-one will), she's not saying they're bad or wrong, she's saying we need a new way to educate the plebs because the language can often be to obscure for them.

[Anonymous No.11134947]

>>11134870

[Anonymous No.11134950]

>>11134493
>he

[Anonymous No.11134964]

>>11134942
theory doesn't work in pleb language though

[Anonymous No.11134985]

>>11134493
>>11134619
>>11134870

unironically good videos

[Anonymous No.11134986]

>>11134964
She's not saying has to. She's saying philosophy needs to be understood better by the masses, kind of like science is. Otherwise, you get the Petersons of the world.

[Anonymous No.11135003]

>>11134986
but theory is written for bourgeois socialites, can't be translated into pleb language unless you hide it inside nationalism or some "the people" or some "common sense" bullshit that ends up in a bloodbath when the worse instincts of the masses take over and start with the murdering once they've tasted the first drop of blood

i mean even in the idealized "anarchist catalonia" in most villages people used the confusion to settle personal grievances and get away with murdering people who they hated, it was kind of the whole point of it

[Anonymous No.11135009]

>>11134493
>muh i studied neuroscience
All undergrad neuroscience programs are horribly bad. He only mentioned this irrelevant fact to make him appear intelligent right off the bat.
>yeah, the "statistical methods" were bad so I uhh, went for philosophy
Sure...
>they all are homosexuals!
I know he's just joking but this is an unsubstantiated claim, propagated only recently by revisionist historians.
>muh I went on to get muh PhD
>too stupid to develop a unique dissertation
>bitches and moans
>picks something above his ability to grasp as his dissertation topic
I assume he was suffering from Gender Dysphoria at the time of his funded PhD admission, and simply was granted place due to inclusive policies.

I would gauge he has an IQ of 115. Not cut out for a philosophy PhD which is why he dropped out.

[Anonymous No.11135021]

>>11135009
i think this persons main point was that most academic philosophical dissertations and work in general is almost comically pigeonholed into incredibly specific (and boring) topics that no one is ever going to read outside of a handful of other academics

houellebecqs submission also confronts this topic

[Anonymous No.11135051]

>>11134586
Only if he's in his Fritz/Freya character tho

[Anonymous No.11135061]

>>11135021
This goes without saying. If these were valid concerns, simply do not enroll in a PhD program for philosophy in the first place.
The truth is, we're dealing with a generation of people unable to come up with original ideas and concepts. They tend to follow in the foot steps of their advisor or their past professors and do something to make them happy.
If you cannot make something original, or make unique work, why should the university fund your PhD?
The problem isn't the structure but the quality of applicants are continually declining.
Have you read dissertations from the late 19th and early 20th centuries? They are at another caliber. They make the dissertations of today look like high school student papers.

[Anonymous No.11135075]

>>11135061
>original ideas
valuing originality is part of the issue

[Anonymous No.11135078]

>>11134641
I think she's only been on them for under a year. They have a cumulative effect and for a lot of people that first year is a bit of a write off. Fortunately for her she has been practicing makeup and knows a bit about how to dress in a way that's flattering for her broad shoulders. Notice how the necklines of her dresses draw the eye's attention away from her shoulders and toward her bust. I've seen someone transition IRL and while they're decent looking now (4 years later), they were a mess until laser was finished, couldn't figure out how to dress right, etc. She has a great sense of humour and irony that probably helps. You'd definitely need thick skin for that kind of thing, otherwise you're just going to be a mess.

Contra's videos on Gender Dysphoria and Autogynephilia were two of my favourites. Glad someone could explore those topics.

[Anonymous No.11135084]

>>11135078
>She

[Anonymous No.11135085]

>>11135075
The problem is the advisor they go with early on. Also, most students lack the assertiveness to boldly go against them and stand their ground about their dissertation topic.

[Anonymous No.11135093]

>>11135061
>The truth is, we're dealing with a generation of people unable to come up with original ideas and concepts. They tend to follow in the foot steps of their advisor or their past professors and do something to make them happy.

that not the truth lol thats you thinking something and calling it the truth

[Anonymous No.11135098]

>>11135084
No regrets. Give her another half a year and I'd hit it. Hopefully she takes those YouTube bucks and gets facial feminization surgery.

[Anonymous No.11135105]

That's cultural appropriation

[Anonymous No.11135117]

>>11135009
I really hate to be the one to do it but this is noting but a long ad hominem. You misunderstood what his point actually was as >>11135021 pointed out and then you just chalked all of his criticisms up to him being transgender. MacIntyre makes the exact same claim he does. It's not something you can just brush off as lol tranny.

MacIntye complained about the exact same thing.

[Anonymous No.11135118]

>>11134493
>he
>this is what counts as a man 2018

[Anonymous No.11135119]

>>11134493
>look at me guise i'm cool because i'm a transphobe!

>>>/pol/ is that way my friend

[Anonymous No.11135125]

>>11134870
what the fuck

[Anonymous No.11135133]

>>11135078
This is a man.
Would you give into a schizophrenic's delusions? Of course not, it would worsen their grip on reality.

How is playing into the delusion that a man who believes he is a woman any different? They are only going to be further reinforced in their belief that they are the opposite gender until such a point that they seek hormonal modulation and even go so far as body modification, including mutilation of their genital organs--- which has life long and irreversible complications, and likewise explains the extremely high suicide rates of transgendered individuals.

Their anecdotal life experience of having "always felt this way" is not sufficient evidence that they are "a woman on the inside".

[Anonymous No.11135134]

>>11135118
Contra began transitioning quite a bit ago now and probably hasn't considered herself a man in quite some time.

[Anonymous No.11135137]

>>11135119
>phobe
is this the ultimate pleb filter?

[Anonymous No.11135147]

>>11135133
>gender dysphoria is "anecdotal life experience"
lel

[Anonymous No.11135151]

>>11135134
>herself
I've got bad news for ya, buddy

[Anonymous No.11135152]

>>11135133
I've met binary trans people and none of them were under a delusion that they weren't their natal sex, rather that such a fact was distressing enough for them to seek a change. The trans woman I used to know was very much passing after a time, to the point that it was weird to call her a he, but she used to like fucking with people by insisting she was a boy anyway. So I don't really see how it was giving into a delusion, really. I could go pull up the peer-reviewed medical research into the decreased suicide rates; decreased blood cortisol levels, depression, and anxiety; and other studies showing quality of life improvements with transition, but I'm really not into the mood for this argument again.

The problem is that gender dysphoria and schizophrenia are two different beasts and it's disingenuous to compare them.

[Anonymous No.11135153]

>>11135098
>No regrets. Give her another half a year and I'd hit it
Porn has fucked up your mind.

[Anonymous No.11135156]

>>11135151
>bad news

[Anonymous No.11135157]

>>11135156
>news

[Anonymous No.11135159]

>>11135137
>using the phrase "pleb filter" in the wrong context
baka

[Anonymous No.11135163]

>>11135152
>Quality of life improvements
Killing yourself at 20 times the rate of normal people instead of 25?
Damn.

[Anonymous No.11135182]

>>11135117
>muh transphobic ad hominem
No, I dislike charlatans who pretend to be intelligent.
It wouldn't matter if a straight white male or any other person made the same video word-for-word.
I addressed the other person's claim in a followup post.
The first part and a half of the video, was the individual somehow trying to "show" to us that he actually is really smart (look at me! We wuz neuroscientists n statisticians n shit!) which pissed me off right off the bat. Ad hominem in that regard? Yes, and it's absolutely valid as the only reason he mentioned this was to lay the groundwork that clearly he wasn't at fault. From there I used everything else against him to show that he indeed is at fault rather than the PhD track.
I genuinely mention his status as a transgender individual as a potential reason for his enrollment in the program. Funded philosophy PhD slots are very limited. For someone to have a problem with a PhD program and all that it entails, shows me that they either weren't that intelligent to begin with or didn't know what they were signing up for. In his case, it think it's both. Admittedly, while it is tedious, narrow, and so forth, this is not a valid reason for abandoning a very competitive program.
There is an overabundance of people in academia right now, creating quantity over quality and leading to many to have problems with originality and writing dissertations. He and unqualified people in academia represent a vastly larger problem than the PhD framework.

[Anonymous No.11135189]

>>11135163
That study is about attempted sudoku, not many as many actually go through with it.

[Anonymous No.11135233]

>>11135182
>There is an overabundance of people in academia right now, creating quantity over quality and leading to many to have problems with originality and writing dissertations
You are literally say right here that he is right.

[Anonymous No.11135237]

>>11135182
>There is an overabundance of people in academia right now, creating quantity over quality and leading to many to have problems with originality and writing dissertations.
source?

[Anonymous No.11135245]

>>11135237
most degrees are meme degrees

[Anonymous No.11135280]

>>11135233
I'm saying the cause of this is more reflective of the students than the system itself. The blame lies most on admitting people like the guy in the video to the program in the first place. They are not qualified and shouldn't have went for a PhD in the first place.

[Anonymous No.11135287]

>>11134870
This is fucking great

[Anonymous No.11135289]

>>11134497
Fpbp

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.11135327]

>>11134493
Why are so many trans girls clearly on the spectrum? She's awkward as hell

[Anonymous No.11135329]

>>11135009
>nd simply was granted place due to inclusive policies.
He became a tranny well after he left academia so thats not correct.

[Anonymous No.11135344]

>>11135329
Fair enough, I didn't know this.
I still think he wasn't qualified at the time and shouldn't have been admitted into a funded PhD track in the first place.

[Anonymous No.11135347]

>>11135327
>why are people willing to cut off their own cocks crazy?
i wonder why

[Anonymous No.11135351]

>>11135280
>I'm saying the cause of this is more reflective of the students than the system itself.
Nothing he says contradicts this. As far as I can tell there is no contradiction between your two positions. He quit his PhD because he didn't like the myopic niche and often blind sheep quality of many of the people doing it. In the video he even uses the overabundance of people in academia as a reason for shitty thesis papers. You agree with him.

[Anonymous No.11135357]

>>11135344
>Fair enough, I didn't know this.
He says it in the video you mong.

[Anonymous No.11135360]

>>11135351
why do you hate knowledge?

[Anonymous No.11135367]

>>11134493
>"bourgie"
Uses black term, doesn't actually know any black people.

The only really nice thing here is the alcoholism trigger warning. At least he knows he's degenerate and spares us poor sinners who have struggled with drink from watching his self-annihilation and decadence.

[Anonymous No.11135386]

>>11135360
Why do you agree with a tranny?

[Anonymous No.11135392]

>>11135061
TV and to a lesser extent internet media soften your ability to think critically in the moment. It's like when you're in a dream and weird shit is happening but you just accept it as normal because that is the world you're in and you can't remember anything else. It shuts off your brain.

[Anonymous No.11135433]

>>11135392

very vivid description but how do you connect it to tv and media

[Anonymous No.11135563]

he seems chill, most of the jokes i didnt understand at all but some i did and liked. and his analysis is ok for a youtuber

i wish he debated with some of the right on yt, not about race issues because he would get destroyed probably but id love to hear him argue about trans and moral issues

[Anonymous No.11135608]

>>11135344
no worries

[Anonymous No.11135612]

>>11135147
>gender dysphoria is "popular & safe social-political opinion of the day"

[Anonymous No.11135702]

>>11135563
he did a debate with this neoreactionary guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEw1VJoTVuo

[Anonymous No.11135717]

>>11135563
Well check out her video on racism, It is pretty solid.
And all this talk of "debating" and "destryoing" is pretty infantile anyway

[Anonymous No.11135719]

>>11135702
theres an old old video somewhere of youtube atheist era contra being responded to by Corey Anton

[Anonymous No.11135722]

>>11134619
Lauren Southern deserves to be fired into the sun

[Anonymous No.11135726]

>>11135717
>Watch as Nigel Farage OBLITERATES Russell Brand on immigration debate

[Anonymous No.11135740]

>>11135563
>he

[Anonymous No.11135759]

>>11134493
>tfw I studied neuroscience and philo and begun to disdain academia and currently struggling with gender dysmorphia

WHAT THE FUCK