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11123524 No.11123524 [Reply] [Original]

>dude it's about how great fascism is lmao

pseuds make me want to die

>> No.11123628

>>11123524
It's about civic duty and why women didn't want the vote.

>> No.11123694

it's about aliens
it's pulp fiction there is no deeper meaning pseuds

>> No.11123788

>>11123524
>It is a society more Authoritarian than the norm, therefore it must be fascism

When will this fucking meme die?

>> No.11123796

>>11123788
When people stop getting their worldview from public schools in democratic countries.

>> No.11123801

>>11123694

this is correct

it was originally serialized as a boys adventure novel

it's supposed to be fun

>> No.11123854

>>11123788
I won't argue about whether it fits the definition of fascism or not but your post seems to suggest that if it were fascism indeed that would automatically make it bad.

>> No.11123960

>>11123854
I would say that people all over the political spectrum do this.

>> No.11124181

>>11123854
>>11123960
Yeah, isms are cancerous. Political discussion/thought is just stamp-collecting, with certain stamps rejected because someone said they're bad/invalid at some point (in a given person's life).

>> No.11124187

>>11123854
Yeah why would somebody do that, right? Fucking lefties I swear haha

>> No.11124299

starship troopers isn't fascist enough

>> No.11124648

>>11123524
>watches the film
>thinks he's read the book
That trick only works around retards. And the film was ironic, you fuckwit.

>> No.11124664

>no conscription
>no sexism
>no racism
>non-citizens are treated fairly
>existential threat to humanity solved
Why does anybody think the Starship Troopers setting is bad?

>> No.11124849

>>11124664
because there is no conscription, sexism or racism

>> No.11124853

>>11124648
The director of the movie didn't finish the book, and believed in the "Heinlein was a fascist" trash.
It was literally ignorance, any satire was of contemporary political beliefs and not of the book.

>> No.11124886

>>11124853
>any satire was of contemporary political beliefs and not of the book.
Nah, the satire was of certain political beliefs of the 1920s-1940s.

>> No.11125182

>>11123524
It's about how fucking cool power armour is

>> No.11125186

>>11125182
This

If only Fallout 4 didn't fucking suck.

>> No.11125966

>>11123788
I don't know if the book was considered fascist before the Starship Troopers movie but it certainly was afterwards and I'd like to blame Paul verhoeven for being a fucking hack

>> No.11125969

>>11124853
The director is such a fucking hack that he thought the Allies were just as bad as and just as fascist as the actual Nazis because a bomb from an Allied plane accidentally landed on his barn when he was growing up in Europe. You can't make this shit up

>> No.11126414

>>11123524
It's not Fascism at all.

>>11123788
It's also not authoritarian at all.

>>11124664
>Why does anybody think the Starship Troopers setting is bad?
It isn't, but not for the reasons you mention.
It is also "sexist" as it recognizes inherent differences between males and females.

>> No.11126454

>>11123524
I thought the book was really great, I see it as attempt to figure out how a multi racial and multi cultural pan humanist society could actually work.

Instead of imagining a liberal Utopia where "everyone just stops hating each other" he tries to craft an actually working alternative, which doesn't fall into the traps in which modern liberalism has fallen.
Meaning democracy where the selfish don't get a say and a justice which seeks to put an end to offenses by any means necessary.

It definitely isn't "Fascist" although that is just a buzzword given to it from parts of the left, indicating their dislike.