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11118201 No.11118201 [Reply] [Original]

How do you know if you're a talented storyteller?

I want to pursue creative writing, but at the same time I don't want to waste my time if I can't go anywhere with it professionally...

>> No.11118552

>>11118201
You’re not gonna make it.

>> No.11118559

>>11118201
Write stories. See if people like them.

>> No.11118573

>>11118559
What if, people like me in general and are afraid of making me upset

>> No.11118581

>>11118573
I fear the same thing

>> No.11118584

>>11118552
How do you know though?

>>11118559
I've written a few short screenplays that were well received and I was encouraged to start writing more seriously or whatever, but I'm still not convinced I should marry this idea...

>> No.11118586

>>11118573
>are afraid of making me upset
Why?

>> No.11118595

>>11118586
Cause Im a rage machine when Im upset

>> No.11118604

>>11118584
>I've written a few short screenplays that were well received
Post one

>> No.11118605

>>11118595
Then post your stories in a critique thread, or show them to someone who isn't a little non-confrontational bitch

>> No.11118606

>>11118604
>On this episode lit produces and directs a major motion picture.

>> No.11118619

>>11118605
I do and all you beta ass soi boys are to afraid to crit them

>> No.11118644
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11118644

>>11118604
I don't have any of them available to upload atm, but here I'll write something new on the spot and you tell me if there's any hope.

>> No.11118671

>>11118644
this is very cool anon

>> No.11118686

>>11118644
This doesn't follow the format of a proper screenplay (action and dialogue only) and the writing and scene are too basic to be any kind of indication regarding your ability to write fantasy.

>> No.11118691
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11118691

>>11118619
>>11118644
Don't put things in a screenplay that won't be on the screen, like, "Carl is paranoid," "His name is Carl," "A young man is getting ready to go out." Likewise, you don't need to say that something "is visible." "Official delivery truck" is a pretty vague description, and the rest of it is so vague that I can't get into it. And I can tell you right now, if you put a wrylie on the first page, anyone you submit it to will throw it in the trash. Overuse of wrylies is a sure sign of an amateur. Describe behavior, it adds to the character, don't just slap a parenthetical adjective next to the name and consider yourself covered.

Maybe you should post something you actually put effort into, when you can.

>> No.11118704

>>11118686
>This doesn't follow the format of a proper screenplay (action and dialogue only)
that's not how it works
http://www.sonyclassics.com/awards-information/whiplash_screenplay.pdf

>> No.11118710

>>11118644
Keep it up, I'm interested in what you can pull out of this setup.

>> No.11118713

>>11118644
This is a nitpick, but it's one of the first things I noticed. Having Carl say aloud "Wow, that's early" seems awkward. If you want to convey that Carl is shocked by a knock at the door, then you can do so without any dialogue. It might sound harsh, but I feel like this line is insulting the audience's intelligence. It's as if you need to explicitly state that a knock at the door is surprising. Everyone is surprised when they hear a knock at the door.

Also, another thing you can do is mention which two men are staring at each other. I'm assuming it's Carl and the delivery man, but it could be more clear. Especially since you just mentioned that there are two more characters in the scene. Maybe you could write "Carl and the Delivery Man stare at each other in a brief..."

Those are just my opinions based on the excerpt.

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>>11118686
>This doesn't follow the format of a proper screenplay
>being this much of a fucking brainlet

>> No.11118722

>>11118691
Lmao post body

>> No.11118728

>>11118713
>If you want to convey that Carl is shocked by a knock at the door
not OP but i assumed Carl said that with a bit of irony
still, the tension seems contrived and not something i'd bother watching

>> No.11118730

>>11118713
>This is a nitpick, but it's one of the first things I noticed. Having Carl say aloud "Wow, that's early" seems awkward. If you want to convey that Carl is shocked by a knock at the door, then you can do so without any dialogue. It might sound harsh, but I feel like this line is insulting the audience's intelligence. It's as if you need to explicitly state that a knock at the door is surprising. Everyone is surprised when they hear a knock at the door.
Brainlet post. Based on the context of the delivery man NOT being the person he expected, AND the fact that there are two people he can't see waiting out of sight, AND the fact that he was nervous, we can assume that his exclamation was to indicate he was expecting a specific person/group of people, that their timing was expected to be consistent, and that they may have been beaten to the door by this other group.

>> No.11118731

>>11118704
A screenplay a director writes for himself isn't going to look like a screenplay written for someone else to direct. See: http://www.public.asu.edu/~srbeatty/394/Chinatown.pdf

>> No.11118736

>>11118686
Scripts are not just action and dialogue lol

>>11118691
>>11118713
Yeah, I have to improve actually writing... I haven't written much and I'm dyslexic but what I'm more interested in right now is if I have an ability to tell a story, not so much the presentation at this point, which I can improve later if I want to dedicate myself to this

>>11118710
I'll finish up by the end of the hour, I started completely blank on what would happen but I think I have it finished now, just have to write it

>> No.11118737

>>11118722
>Lmao post body
What?

>> No.11118740

>>11118730
My point was that I've never exclaimed in my house alone, "Oh my gosh, I'm hearing a knock at the door. I am surprised." It's unnatural. I'm not arguing that he wasn't surprised. It's weird to talk to yourself like that.

>> No.11118743

>>11118737
Post body. Which of those two words are you struggling with?

>> No.11118744

>>11118731
sure it varies, but generally there's a lot more going on
https://www.scribd.com/document/135486281/Network-1976

>> No.11118750

>>11118743
Are you telling me to post a picture of my body, or are you talking about the body of my post?

>> No.11118756

>>11118740
That's not what you said originally though. You implied "Wow that's early" was said purely to convey that message to an audience. What I'm saying is that it has importance in demonstrating that the man in the apartment was nervously waiting for someone. Personally, I have made similar exclamations when pressed for time.

>> No.11118759

>>11118750
I'm not >>11118722 but yes, post body.

>> No.11118762

>>11118744
All I'm saying is, if you're just starting off in screenplays, and you're writing for someone else to direct, you should be cautious with internal descriptions. Chayefsky was already well established when he wrote this.

>> No.11118766

>>11118750
Post it

>> No.11118767

>>11118759
Why is this relevant?

>> No.11118770

>>11118201
>How do you know if you're a talented storyteller?
Do people listen to you when you talk?

>> No.11118775

>>11118770
Ye sumtime ey do

>> No.11118778

>>11118201
by not being a simpering runt, writing something short but coherent, and submitting the piece to friends, family, other writers, and a publisher. That’s it, there is no other element to writing. If you have a high verbal iq, creativity and are observant, have been reading to expand vocabulary and learn basic techniques, then you will succeed. However, beyond finding out one’s talent, there is nothing you can do, once there’s a sense for the weight you can push you’ll be at the mercy of the market which is an entirely different question from “how good am I?”. The public is disgustingly addicted to YA fiction, erotica, soft erotica (romance), sci-fi, fantasy and magical realism (best if one can pair with erotica/romance); you’ve little if any chance of being published if you’re not female, gay, jewish, PoC, and even less if your novel has an anti-civ, anti-boug, anti-gay, anti-liberal, anti-humanist bent to it.

>> No.11118780

>>11118756
I see what you're saying. I guess that line of dialogue does play an important role in telling the audience that the character is waiting on a group. I don't know how else you could give the audience that information. It still seems weird to have Carl talk to himself, but I understand it's role in the story.

>> No.11118804

>>11118780
>>11118756
alternatively you could have him look at a clock with a surprised expression... which is more organic?

>> No.11118848

>>11118644
>a moment of science

>> No.11118857

>>11118848
That's the joke you brainlet.

>> No.11118863

>>11118804
Probably the exclamation. Imagine you're getting dressed for the prom night and expecting your date soon. A doorbell rings earlier than you expected and before you were totally prepared; do you deliberately death-stare a clock, as if preparing evidence to argue with time itself for cheating you, or do you just go "oh shit"?

>> No.11118871

>>11118857
I don't get it

>> No.11118874

>>11118871
>sci·ence
>ˈsīəns/Submit
>noun
>the intellectual and practical activity encompassing the systematic study of the structure and behavior of the physical and natural world through observation and experiment.
They were studying each other.

>> No.11118875

>>11118573
Post them on an anonymous image board.
But if you have to ask you will not be that good, mediocre at best.

>> No.11118892

>>11118874
No, the author said he has dyslexia.

>> No.11118906

>>11118892
You've never heard of an unreliable narrator?

>> No.11118920

>>11118906
Enough dick tickling. This is not a place of fun.

>> No.11118969

What a stupid question, just write and see where it goes. You should enjoy creation, it should make you depressed that you didn't get at least a page in for the day, otherwise talent or not your never going to progress beyond a daydream.

>> No.11119258

>>11118201
How would I go about drawing a detailed stylized character like this?

>> No.11119265

>>11118874
Ahhh yes, in a screenplay, where it is most useful.

>> No.11119604

>>11118201
You know you´re NOT talented if you believe in the idiocy of "talent".

You are talented if you recognize the delight in improving your talentless tiny set of skills every day.