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[Anonymous No.11088012]

>Kant was a STEMfag who changed his mind
>Freud was a psychiatrist
>Nietzsche was a philologist
>Stirner had no degree lmao
>Wittgenstein was an engineer
>Russell was a mathematician
>Kripke is a mathematician
>Chomsky is a linguist
>Foucault was a historian/sociologist
>Adorno was a musician and sociologist
>Spengler was a mathematician
>Guenon was a mathematician
>Popper was a psychologist, mathematician and physicist

Are there any philosophers who were actually philosophers? It seems all the influential ones just did philosophy as an afterthought.

[Anonymous No.11088023]

It's my birthday today!

[Anonymous No.11088028]

>>11088012
Well I mean its not exactly a profitable field. No one eating being a philosopher especially before like the 20th century. Why die in poverty if you're that smart? But besides (obvious) context any worthwhile philosopher or writer should want to absorb as much information available during their time. Otherwise they're probably scrubs.

[Anonymous No.11088029]

>>11088012
Philosophy isn't a paying job, unless you teach it.

[Anonymous No.11088036]

>>11088012
It seems like being an actual philosopher does you no good. You study the works of others so much there is probably no originality in your own thought, while, as you can see by your own examples, having a different kind of occupation leads to revelational experiences.

[Anonymous No.11088070]

>>11088012
Kant was a philosophy professor.

[Anonymous No.11088083]

>stirner had no degree

So can I to become the ultimate meme through autodidactism?

[Anonymous No.11088088]

>>11088070
>who changed his mind
Literally the first line anon

[Anonymous No.11088098]

>>11088012
Kant was a philosopher
also Plato, Aristotle, Diogenes etc.

[Anonymous No.11088105]

>>11088012
>people in fields that require high intelligence tend to also be good at other things they have an interest in

[Anonymous No.11088107]

>>11088088
and ? I don't understand how that devalues the fact that he was an actual philosophy professor.

[Anonymous No.11088113]

>>11088012
>you can't be two things at once

[Anonymous No.11088114]

>>11088107
I don't think you understand the tone of the post anon. Are you not a native speaker?

[Anonymous No.11088127]

>>11088023
Friedrich! alles Gute zum Geburtstag!!
My rising sign is Taurus FWIW. My lady Venus..

[Anonymous No.11088131]

Adam Smith

[Anonymous No.11088174]

>>11088114
I don't understand your post period.
What does the fact that he was a "STEMfag who changed his mind" have to do with the post you were replying to ?

[Anonymous No.11088180]

>>11088174
Its in the first line

[Anonymous No.11088197]

>>11088180
Oh, I thought you were OP and you were trying to point out that somehow the first line was contradicting this which is why I was confused

Fair enough

[Anonymous No.11088433]

>>11088197
no

[Anonymous No.11088475]

Jerking off to Philosophy academia bullshit doesn't teach you the real philosophy. It requires learned life experience.

[Anonymous No.11088482]

>>11088036
This. I think philosophy becomes most interesting when it becomes heavily informed by the thought in some quasirelated field.

[Anonymous No.11088503]

>>11088088
Nice BBOBB get

[Anonymous No.11088538]

>>11088012
It's pretty wrong to say Wittgenstein was an engineer. He literally viewed his turning to philosophy as an abandonment of engineering, and later would view his work in things such as architecture distinct as well.

[Anonymous No.11088545]

>>11088012
Me

[Anonymous No.11088557]

>>11088538
He made one shitty building though

[Anonymous No.11088563]

there is no philosophy.

there is only failed attempts to become something.

and then the history of those attempts is what is taught as philosophy.

[Anonymous No.11088612]

>>11088012
>>Stirner had no degree lmao
did you even read his biography?

[Anonymous No.11088617]

>>11088012
Imma zoologist. (majoring in it in college).
philosophy is actually the most interesting and insightful field desu so it's actually not surprising at all if anyone turned their academic interest/intellectual prowess toward philosophy

I also would like to mention Haneke (who first studied philosophy in college), Terrence Malick (studied phd in philosophy) and Wes Anderson (majoring in philosophy in college), they all later turned into very interesting talent of auteurs.

[Anonymous No.11088705]

>>11088012
philosophy overlaps with other fields
math is just logic anyway

[Anonymous No.11088716]

>>11088012
popper was not a physicist but you could add Kuhn for that one

[Anonymous No.11088725]

>>11088131
He was a customs officer or something like that. His job already had him dealing with money and taxes all the time.

[Anonymous No.11088755]

Philsophy is a science

[Anonymous No.11088795]

>>11088755
Science is a philosophy

[Anonymous No.11088798]

>>11088012
Thus a philosopher is born rather than made.
You see, many learn philosophy but hardly anyone learns to philosophize, which is a natural innate talent of those natural philosophers and that which people who jerk off to their thoughts only fantasize about having.
Learning philosophy makes you a philosopher just as much as studying a building makes you an architect. At best you can hope you be able to reconstruct their thoughts but you'll never have the mind to think up those thoughts in the first place. Such is life.

[Anonymous No.11088810]

>>11088012
No, being a real philosopher necessitates having actually done things in the real world. DOERS not THINKERS. Praise Baal.

[Anonymous No.11088838]

>>11088810
Yea like how you cant be a real scotsman without wearing those skirts. lol, you idiot

[Anonymous No.11088908]

Schopenhauer because he could live off his daddy’s neetbux.
Hegel and a slew of french faggots too.

[Anonymous No.11088944]

Spinoza. I guess that's one of the reasons people ride his dick so hard.

[Anonymous No.11089221]

>>11088810
THIS.
This is why /ourleb/ Taleb is king, while Jordan 'I cant answer that' Peterson is an ivory tower psychologist on antidepressants

[Anonymous No.11089472]

>>11088944
Spinoza was trained as a biblical scholar

[Anonymous No.11089476]

>>11089472
But he was a jew

[Anonymous No.11089491]

>>11088012
Analytics are not philosophers (except Wittgenstein, who was not properly an analytic)

[Anonymous No.11089537]

>>11088012
>Are there any philosophers who were actually philosophers?

[Anonymous No.11089903]

>>11088012
>people can only specialize in one field
>mathematicians aren't practicing a type of highly abstract formal logic
Also, Nietzsche hated the philology department for what it's worth and tried to transfer to philosophy more than once; they only got him to stay by making him chair.

[Anonymous No.11089932]

>>11088012
Socrates and Plato’s only jobs were philosophy and being obnoxious, Aristotle was the same. Their interests in math were secondary and Socrates’ service as a soldier was incidental and had almost nothing at all to do with his ideas

[Anonymous No.11089953]

>>11088012
Almost all of your examples were doing philosophy in those specialized fields that overlap with their subject of interest. Popper was not just a scientist, but a philosopher of science. Chomsky is not just a linguist, but a philosopher of mind. Russell was a philosopher of mathematics. Spengler did philosophy of history. Wittgenstein changed his focus from engineering to philosophy. Kripke and Kant did/do pure metaphysics.

I know this is bait, but at least put some effort into it.

[Anonymous No.11089999]

>>11089953
why would i put effort in it when i can get replies with this anyway?

[Anonymous No.11090427]

>>11089999
because i'll appreciate more than your quads if you do. It's not the post count, but the quality of your shitposting that ensures you will be remembered

[Anonymous No.11090918]

>>11089999
checked

[Anonymous No.11090921]

>>11088012
and yet stirner, who had no degree, was the best of them all. makes ya think.

[Anonymous No.11090939]

>>11089903
>we wuz mathematicians
the absolute state of philosophy

[Anonymous No.11090953]

>>11088083
you don't need to get a degree to say "do what you want lmao"

[Anonymous No.11090991]

>>11090939
>almost every famous logician just happens to coincidentally to be a mathematician
disgraceful