/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.1108407]

itt: Eastern European writers that are/were not Russian

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[Anonymous No.1108425]

Prus sucks donkey dicks, go read Sienkiewicz instead

[Anonymous No.1108426]

arf

[Anonymous No.1108431]

actually never finished The Good Soldier Švejk, but I'm so tired of Dostoyevsky and Tolstoy fagging /lit/ up every day

[Anonymous No.1108435]

>>1108425

obviously you've never read Prus, his works triumph over 99% of Sienkiewicz's

[Anonymous No.1108447]

>>1108425
Prus is a lot better you illiterate nigger.

[Anonymous No.1108451]

john cowper powys...

[Anonymous No.1108455]

>>1108431
then get yo ass up and read it, it doesn't get funnier than hasek

[Anonymous No.1108456]

Mickiewicz > Sienkiewicz and Prus, always

[Anonymous No.1108462]

>>1108426

Conrad, Eastern European?

[Anonymous No.1108486]

>>1108456

Mickiewicz was a fucking douchebag, the only good thing he wrote was the second part of Dziady.

Pan Tadeusz has lolis though.

[Anonymous No.1108518]

>>1108431
neither did he

[Anonymous No.1108526]

>>1108462
Joseph Conrad (Józef Teodor Konrad Korzeniowski) was born in Poland

[Anonymous No.1108528]

11/10

[Anonymous No.1108529]

>>1108526

oh

still wrote in English though

[Anonymous No.1108530]

>>1108486
Pan Tadeusz fucking rocks, shut your proletarian mouth.
>>1108462
Why would you be? He was from Poland and shit, go read some wikipedia or whatever (inb4 lol wikipedia shitstorm).

[Anonymous No.1108532]

Orhan Pamuk

[Anonymous No.1108540]

>>1108529
wow that's an interesting insight you've made there, man

[Anonymous No.1108541]

>>1108526

I think the Conrad poster was being a little facetious. Poland wasn't officially a country of its own at that time, instead occupied by the Russians. Conrad seems to have inherited some of the nationalism from his executed father, along with a persistent dislike for the oppressors (they appear as villains in The Secret Agent and Under Western Eyes), so he was very emphatically "not russian" even though technically he'd been a russian subject.

[Anonymous No.1108542]

>>1108532

>Turkey
>Eastern Europe

u wot m8

[Anonymous No.1108546]

>>1108530

Pan Tadeusz was good until Tadeusz chose Zosia over Telimena.

>>1108541
Conrad's relevancy to this thread is discussable. While he was of Polish descent, none of his works - to my knowledge at least - dealt with the country or its people. Anon would rather discuss someone who has both the former (Slavic/Eastern European descent) and latter (writes about his country and people).

[Anonymous No.1108554]

>>1108542
>implying that Turkey is in Asia but that Russia is in Europe.

They're both Eurasian countries sport, and both marked by a sense of East Europe.

[Anonymous No.1108559]

>>1108546

It seems pretty clear that many of his works deal with Poland in coded ways. There's 'Amy Foster', and 'Under Western Eyes', and all the constant conern with how easily a person's whole identity can be disrupted and distorted by other people - like that of a 'Russian subject' who wishes to be nothing of the sort.

But you're right that none of it is direct, and I wasn't arguing that he fits into this thread. Someone was just picking up on the OP's "not Russian". If anything his serious (rather than trolly) inclusion in such a discussion could be taken as vaguely insulting, considering how seamlessly he's been integrated into the English canon.

[Anonymous No.1108571]

>>1108546
Well I like it for the language mostly, so you know. But I don't really see how Thadeus chosing Telimena would make things better in any way.

[Anonymous No.1108572]

>>1108559

Huh. I don't recall those, and wikipedia isn't helpful, but good to know! Thanks, anon.

Also, nobody remembers that Guillaume Apollinaire was Polish, either. I prefer thinking it was a troll though.

Now can we please go back to Pan Tadeusz ;_;

[Anonymous No.1108573]

>>1108554

Nobody actually lives in the Asian parts of Russia, they are profoundly influenced by European culture, they have tons more in common religiously, ethnically, and more importantly, artistically, with Europe than Turkey does. Reducing culture to bare geographical terms is silly and wildly inaccurate. Turkey is middle eastern.

[Anonymous No.1108575]

>>1108571

Telimena had more character than just 'innocent young girl that symbolises hope', for instance.

[Anonymous No.1108580]

madach imre

or imre madach

depending on what language you're speaking.

[Anonymous No.1108585]

>Nobody actually lives in the Asian parts of Russia
stop doing drugs

[Anonymous No.1108588]

>>1108585
no. no one does. do your research.

[Anonymous No.1108596]

OP here.
consider 'Eastern European' changed to 'Slavic'.

[Anonymous No.1108598]

>>1108585

Only a quarter of Russians live in Siberia, infa 100%

[Anonymous No.1108609]

>>1108575
Telimena had just as much character as Zosia. They were both shallow in their own way. Similar case with Tadeusz himself - and it was very well intended; 'Pan Tadeusz' was supposed to bring rest and hope to people of Poland/Lithuania after the years of struggle (shown clearly in Mickiewicz's earlier works).

Also, the guy on the left. Discuss.

[Anonymous No.1108610]

>>1108596
OP here, consider 'OP' changed to 'faggot'.

[Anonymous No.1108614]

>>1108609
Yup, the main character is Jacek Soplica anyway, not his faggot-ass son

[Anonymous No.1108619]

>>1108588
There live around 45 different tribes not even mentioning russians. Are you fucking retarded ?

[Anonymous No.1108620]

>>1108609

Clearly the only interesting character in the book is Hrabia. Telimena at least had something interesting to say, though.

Also, re: Mrożek - I honestly never got the appeal. I've read some stories and plays and was disappoint.

[Anonymous No.1108623]

>>1108542
>>1108554
>>1108573
>>1108585
>>1108588
>>1108598
>>1108619

cut this shit out, this is /lit/, not /mywikifuisbetter/

[Anonymous No.1108627]

>>1108623

>implying this thread didn't start with people rushing to look up non-Russians

[Anonymous No.1108635]

>>1108627
>>implying everyone is a dumb fag like you

[Anonymous No.1108639]

>>1108635

>implying I was participating in this thread

[Anonymous No.1108641]

>>1108431
Any particular prose work of his you'd reccomend?

[Anonymous No.1108644]

>>1108641

Start with Švejk. It's the Catch-22, except earlier and - some would argue - better.

[Anonymous No.1108645]

>>1108641
Schweik, duh.
>>1108627
>implying most people in this thread aren't polish
>>1108639
>implying he implied that

[Anonymous No.1108651]

>>1108645

>implying implied implications were not implied when said implications were in fact being implied

[Anonymous No.1108655]

>>1108645
>implying there are people who aren't Polish in this thread

[Anonymous No.1108662]

[Anonymous No.1108667]

>>1108662

it's like I never left /v/!

[Anonymous No.1108681]

surprised he hasn't been mentioned yet

[Anonymous No.1108689]

>>1108681
>Kafka
>Eastern European

[Anonymous No.1108694]

>>1108681
failfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfailfail

[Anonymous No.1108697]

POLAND - RUSSIA!
UKRAINE - RUSSIA!

WHOLE EASTERN EUROPE - RUSSIAN!

[Anonymous No.1108699]

How about russian, but never talked about on here?

[Anonymous No.1108764]

[Anonymous No.1108812]

gogol is ukrainian

[Anonymous No.1108821]

>>1108812

[Anonymous No.1108830]

>>1108431
>Czech
>Eastern Europe
what the fuck....

[Anonymous No.1108832]

>>1108830
l2/geography

[Anonymous No.1108833]

>bitches don't know bout my Ivan Cankar

[Anonymous No.1108847]

>>1108832
Czech rep is central Europe, as is Slovenia>>1108833
Culturaly those countries have more to do with ''Western Europe'' than anything east.