/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11065598]

Is it even possible to make it as a poet any more? Robert Frost's heyday might as well have been 1000 years ago.

[Anonymous No.11065774]

>>11065598
Maybe, in China or Korea or somewhere.

Westerners just have to come to terms with the fact that they're not a front-line civilisation anymore. History has moved on, and cultural innovation now takes place in regions and languages that are incomprehensible to us.

Our cultural decline is complete. We're done here.

[Anonymous No.11065781]

>>11065774
Speak for yourself, loser.

[Anonymous No.11065794]

>>11065781
Kek. Go on, astound us with your poetry anon. I can't fucking wait for this.

[Anonymous No.11065798]

>>11065598
>wanting to "make it" as a poet
Why wouldn't you just strive to write at least as good as the greats? Many poets weren't published in their lifetime and, to me at least, writing for the money kinda dirties it.

[Anonymous No.11065802]

>>11065598
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[Anonymous No.11065810]

"Making it" financially? No, not really. But "making it" as having a small and passionnate and dedicated readership ? Sure.

[Anonymous No.11065829]

>>11065774
Is there really much cultural innovation going on in the east though? Maybe I'm just a pleb but I haven't heard of any. Anime doesn't count.

I agree with the rest though.

[Anonymous No.11065846]

>>11065774
>Maybe, in China or Korea or somewhere.
kek'd hard
> History has moved on, and cultural innovation now takes place in regions and languages that are incomprehensible to us.
Is that why all of their "innovation" consists of trying to improve upon western inventions?

[Anonymous No.11065850]

Richard Wilbur, a favorite of Bloom and Nabokov, died just last october.

[Anonymous No.11065859]

Not in the university system, that's the source of the corpse. You'd need to have some sort of pulp or slam appeal at the minimum for society to care; poets do survive but for the most part we call them songwriters.

[Anonymous No.11065878]

>>11065859
Subtle bait

[Anonymous No.11065894]

>>11065598
get a stable job and do poetry on the side

[Anonymous No.11065902]

>>11065774
The West is still the best civilization to live in even despite all of the SJW nonsense, that's how far behind the rest of the world is.

[Anonymous No.11065931]

Patricians write poetry for themselves / their muse / their close friends. Wanting a public audience is vulgar. You should write poetry as a way to reflect upon and deepen your interior life; whether it is read or not should be of no concern to you.

The kind of poetry that deserved a popular audience (e.g. ancient epic & dramatic poetry) has been replaced by film.

[Anonymous No.11065935]

Robert Frost? You excited for summer now that your Freshman year of High School is winding down?

[Anonymous No.11065943]

>>11065935
Edgy English majors need to die.

[Anonymous No.11065950]

>>11065598
Anon, brother, I'm in a good mood tonight (in despite of my 'life' being a fucking disaster) and so I'm going to have to concur with your fear. But it is still possible 'to seduce' the public's ear with something relatively brief but in prose- poetic prose, even, but with a steely eye on the limitations of those youd like to 'get,' or influence. This is entirely fair btw. Art has always been AT LEAST 85% seduction-- aber sei Vorsichtig-- make your 15% count.
A pleasant evening, middle of the night, whatever--

[Anonymous No.11065951]

>>11065902
It's probably the most comfortable and stable. But that's hardly fertile ground for great art. In fact, the artistic sphere is precisely where SJWs are most prevalent.

[Anonymous No.11065971]

>>11065598
Werent most poets aristocrats though

Like keep writing but have "family businesses" too, sell slaves or have salt mines or do currency speculation or sth along those lines

[Anonymous No.11065978]

>>11065951
i disagree, networks and shit

[Anonymous No.11065980]

>>11065943
Never went to college in my life. Too smart for that scam. I am 100% autodidact

[Anonymous No.11065985]

>>11065598
ummm ever heard of Kendrick Lamar? Jay Cole? Post Malone?

You are either living under a rock or are completely and willfully ignorant

[Anonymous No.11066065]

>>11065781
Still waiting, you pretentious faggot. So where you at?

[Anonymous No.11066070]

>>11066065
Seconded. I'm always curious to hear anons' poetry

[Anonymous No.11066072]

>>11066065
>he doesn't wear the watch over the shirt cuff

[Anonymous No.11066141]

>>11065598
Unironically songwriting is the new primary form for people with poetic sensibilities. Obviously there's still a ways for it to go before it reaches the same heights but I think there's potential.

Though most songwriter's verse is pretty unremarkable. The few notable ones like Bill Callahan remain relatively obscure but at least they can make a living from it.

[Anonymous No.11066149]

>>11066141
This would be kind of funny, since poetry was originally all sung. I mean, like, back in the days of Homer.

[Anonymous No.11066153]

>>11065774
Spoken like someone who knows nothing at all about the culture of Korea or of China

[Anonymous No.11066158]

>>11066149
This. The pseuds on /lit/ like to pretend that poetry is it's own separate thing when it's really completely intertwined with lyrical verse.

[Anonymous No.11067341]

>>11066158
>>11066149
The real pseuds are the ones who point that out to argue in favor of song lyrics somehow being equal to poetry. We don't know what the music they played sounded like with poetry and poetry has grown so much past strict meter with all kinds of substitution and more complex forms because of its shift from being played with music. After people were able to write things down reliably, poetry didn't need to be so strictly organized.

[Anonymous No.11067514]

>>11065802

[Anonymous No.11067523]

>it's "/mu/tard basedguzzlers come out of the woodwork, shill the indeh whining that appeals to their teenage sensibilities, and try to rationalize it with MUH HOMER" episode