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/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:01:37 2018 No.11052757 [Reply] [Original]

Adventures at Sea Edition
>what's your favourite sailing related SFF book?
>what's the Moby Dick of SFF?

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>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:02:20 2018 No.11052760 gerne fic is 4 dummies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:02:56 2018 No.11052765 sanderfag a hack

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:03:28 2018 No.11052766 There is no way Rain is dead

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:03:37 2018 No.11052767 >>11052757 >what's your favourite sailing related SFF book? Inda it's a real fucking shame Sherwood Smith has never wrote anything else on the level of the first 2 inda books

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:09:16 2018 No.11052789 File: 2.17 MB, 1011x1060, magnifico.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What was this guy's fucking problem?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:11:12 2018 No.11052801 File: 256 KB, 500x800, monthly reading.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Free Dick (download): http://b-ok.xyz/s/?q=Flow+my+tears+the+policeman+said

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:12:47 2018 No.11052805 >>11052789 What the fuck was the Second Foundations problem and what's with studying math turning everyone into Professor X?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:26:05 2018 No.11052880 >>11052757 So litrpg basically a rip off of sword art online?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:41:14 2018 No.11052934 >>11052789 He just wanted greatness. I'm no history buff, who was he meant to be? Hannibal or some shit?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:45:59 2018 No.11052962 >>11052757 >>what's the Moby Dick of SFF? Moby Dick

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:48:08 2018 No.11052969 File: 20 KB, 346x520, b8f51829snakefish9b1404b.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11052757 >what's your favourite sailing related SFF book? The Fishing Of The Demon-sea by Michael Shea

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:52:25 2018 No.11052981 >the villainous girl wins the mc bowl truly the best trope

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:53:32 2018 No.11052984 >>11052757 >perfect OP lemme breed you for one sec OP

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:54:12 2018 No.11052987 File: 73 KB, 816x625, 29571198_1882979251726290_1316854174675512422_n.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11052757 >sailing related SFF book? Hyperion, I guess?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:54:36 2018 No.11052989 >>11052981 gib examples. they say never stick your dick in crazy and evil. but crazy is often crazy devoted.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:55:14 2018 No.11052993 >>11052987 Hm ok that wasn't the image I intended but god damn it's a good

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 18:59:46 2018 No.11053012 >>11052989 as far as i know there isn't much nevernight chronicle kinda fits but who knows how that one ends

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:01:56 2018 No.11053017 >>11053012 i tried reading the first one and got bored halfway through. i didnt really enjoy it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:09:12 2018 No.11053050 >>11053017 she falls in love with the other girl despite her killing her lover and betraying everyone in the academy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 19:27:22 2018 No.11053130 >>11052989 Sword of Rhiannon

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 20:29:38 2018 No.11053380 File: 43 KB, 600x600, pbox.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Which scifi authors are /our guys/

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 20:52:04 2018 No.11053473 File: 27 KB, 274x400, weberbooks.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:04:39 2018 No.11053528 >>11053380 ada palmer

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:07:58 2018 No.11053551 >>11053528 I'm new enough to this that I don't know if I'm getting trolled But, that's not a guy >:(

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:09:07 2018 No.11053560 File: 39 KB, 350x517, 2016-03-25f1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Based.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:11:48 2018 No.11053578 seems to be a bias towards sci fi over fantasy here

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:20:44 2018 No.11053614 >>11053551 Neither are we ;)

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:26:23 2018 No.11053644 >>11053578 We had more fantasyfaggots before sanderhack and bakker both shit the bed with their latest releases.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:30:06 2018 No.11053658 >>11052789 Fuck Gaya and he had the right idea.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:47:36 2018 No.11053740 >>11053644 >bakker don't you mean hakker?

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 21:54:10 2018 No.11053771

>>11053644
I've never read books by either of them or any game of thrones books. I thought this general would be more normie than the rest of /lit/ but it's mostly books written ages ago and then 4 or 5 of the more well known authors in each genre that get talked about. Doesn't anyone here read average tier books? My criteria is basically seeing a 200+ 4-5 star rating on amazon and then reading the summary to see if it catches my attention. Started reading again a few months ago and I've got 6 fantasy series waiting on new books.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:05:23 2018 No.11053817 >>11053771 It is more normie than /lit/, but if we only talked about the hip new series we'd just be reddit. Old and new are discussed here, but it's easier to talk about old stuff because there's tons more of it.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:19:23 2018 No.11053871 >>11053740 Yeah, my bad

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:26:01 2018 No.11053898

>>11053771
The problem is that anyone who reads new books doesn't even attempt to make recommendations or defend their tastes.

>read some Kindle book
>post image of derivative cover art
>Book IIII of the Elfsong Saga by Kathryn Ladee
>yo dis shit good
>looks like crap mate
>n-no

Maybe it was great but no one who posts here is capable of explaining why, which mostly just inclines me to believe that anyone who can stand to read new releases is functionally illiterate and just reads shit on Kindle that they accidentally downloaded while trying to buy waifu dolls on Amazon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:30:16 2018 No.11053927 >>11053898 >just reads shit on Kindle that they accidentally downloaded while trying to buy waifu dolls on Amazon. I'll defend this approach. It's how I discovered litrpg

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:35:21 2018 No.11053951

>>11053771
I've read a bunch of fantasy books, both newer and older, but nobody ever talks about them and my attempts to bring them up get ignored, so I mostly just lurk or chime in when somebody mentions an author or series I've read. I'm having to wait longer and longer between times when that happens though, as I think more and more fantasy readers abandon this general due to its overall shitty, stagnant attitude.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:40:24 2018 No.11053971 File: 1.64 MB, 902x695, 1523967662408.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11052789 [x] legitimately did nothing wrong [x] has the coolest musical instrument in scifi [x] 2f were literally no fun allowed

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:46:29 2018 No.11053998
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Well I just finished this 10 minutes ago. I think it's a bit more mature than the other fantasies I read. Basically elemental demons rise at night and most humans hide using flimsy symbols etched into things like houses called wards. The summary talks about a trio standing up to the demons but the 3 main characters don't even meet until the last couple chapters. It spans a decade or so following the characters in their teens to their late twenties. About to start book 2. Would recommend if looking for swords and demons. The magic part isn't your typical magic, just symbols that can be carved and painted on stuff.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:47:56 2018 No.11054005 >>11053998 nice try

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:52:13 2018 No.11054024
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How does the Aspect Emperor series compare to the Prince of Nothing series? I'm just finishing book 1 of the AE series and fuckin' hell it was a slog. I felt the same way with book one of PoN. Bakker takes his time to set things up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:55:44 2018 No.11054039 >>11052757 >what's your favourite sailing related SFF book? probably the liveship trilogy

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:57:08 2018 No.11054050 >>11054005 what you mean nice try? have you read it

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 22:59:18 2018 No.11054062 >>11054050 it's the biggest pile of shit i've read in a long time you're in for a treat in book 2

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:08:37 2018 No.11054117 >>11054062 can you explain without spoiling? Did you like book 1 and book 2 was awful?

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:10:27 2018 No.11054129 >>11054117 Book 1 was interesting but did a nosedive in the last third the rest of the series is just plain awful

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:37:13 2018 No.11054246
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>>11052757
i can't tell if i'm reading Prince of Thorns because i already started it and im just killing time, or if i genuinely think it's ok.

why does this book get so much hate? My opinion is biased at this point and I can't judge it properly. It's edgy but I also read a ton of shitty japanese web novels so it doesn't really faze me.

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:41:38 2018 No.11054274

So I listened to the audiobooks for Robin Hobb's farseer.

I have no idea why I stayed for 4 books. I'm not saying the main character has to be fucking perfect or the story has to be amazing. But it felt so goddamn boring.

>>11054246
The ending leaves you wanting for a bit more answers because it felt rushed.

The "power levels" between the characters feels incredibly off. Not much is explained but the overworld is cool. Jorg is an interesting sociopath character. People take the book too seriously or take the book to edgily.

I found it an entertaining read, but I was left disappointed with how things quickly wrapped up in the end.

Anonymous Tue Apr 24 23:46:35 2018 No.11054291
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>people only know Brian Herbert for ruining his father's legacy
>almost nobody has read one of the most kino, surreal dystopian novels ever written because of that

Why is this allowed?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 00:14:14 2018 No.11054383 File: 252 KB, 1400x2114, the-traitor-baru-cormorant.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11053135 it's not really YA though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 00:18:12 2018 No.11054400 is ken liu good

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 00:29:53 2018 No.11054442 >>11054400 He's so-so I'd say. I'm invested enough in the Dandelion Dynasty to keep reading but it wouldn't be on my list of recommendations for most people unless they'd already read most of the stuff I could rec them.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:24:05 2018 No.11054637
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>tfw you become obsessed with wanting to read books featuring a super specific thing that is almost non-existent so you end up not reading anything for weeks or even months

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:26:56 2018 No.11054648

>>11054291
>On the peanut-shaped planetoid of Ut, a 150-million-year-old computer named Mamacita rules with dictatorial control. Her every whim is a steadfast rule, and no command is stronger than the ban of Sudanna, the wind that sweeps across Ut spreading the liberating sounds of music.
>Hiley OIV is one of Ut’s most conscientious inhabitants, a man so afraid of losing his head (utpeople have very precarious necks) that a Bad Thought almost never enters his mind. But now his teenage daughter has fallen in love with Prussirian BBD—Ut’s most notorious outlaw—a man who has broken Mamacita’s cardinal rule: he makes music.

This not only sounds bad, it sounds bad in exactly the same way that the Dune Expanded Universe is bad.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:34:26 2018 No.11054669

I wonder if I'll ever publish this novel or if I'll just leave it in editing limbo for the rest of my life. I just can't bring myself to care enough to do the extensive editing necessary when I feel like I already "won" against it

>>11054400
Dandelion Dynasty is deeply underrated. His short stories are mostly pretty meh but The Paper Menagerie genuinely made me feel teary-eyed

>>11054039
I gave the first book a try. It wasn't bad. Is it worth continuing the series?

>>11054637
what's your obsession?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:41:40 2018 No.11054698 >>11054669 >what's your obsession? good prose

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:42:42 2018 No.11054701 File: 42 KB, 756x426, edd.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11054669 >what's your obsession? Traps. >>11054698 Ignore this guy, not me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:44:51 2018 No.11054708 So, is literally nobody reading Ward aside from /sffg/? That's kind of sad. Worm was great and there's literally 1 person on tumblr doing Ward fanart

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 01:46:25 2018 No.11054711 >>11054669 >what's your obsession? Finding a book in 6th person. >>11054701 >>11054698 not me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 02:36:08 2018 No.11054844 File: 339 KB, 639x450, jake-2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11053578 That honestly didn't happen until the /tv/ mishap. I'm glad the dragonfuckers are outnumbered.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:01:27 2018 No.11054896

>>11054129
I enjoyed all of books 1, maybe the time line jump was a little much. Looks like you were right about the nosedive though. Started reading book 2 and it's a back story of the arab-like people which I don't really care about. Skipped ahead and didn't see anything about arlen. Went to amazon reviews and turns out books 2, 3, and 4 are all getting 2-3 stars and people complaining about pointless backstories and no plot movement. I got the same feeling just reading the first 2 chapters.

Based on the first book I was hoping for a cool adventure involving the trio fighting demons and uniting the humans. Guess the author shit the bed. Might still finish the series at a much slower pace. Time to find a new series though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:08:25 2018 No.11054908 >>11054669 >I gave the first book a try. It wasn't bad. Is it worth continuing the series? I enjoyed it but this was about 15 years ago so not sure if it would still stand up today.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:09:36 2018 No.11054911 >>11052984 It's actually my first

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:09:39 2018 No.11054912 >>11054669 you haven't actually finished it if it's an unedited mess

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:16:07 2018 No.11054920 >>11054896 The 2. book is mostly about arabs raping and pillaging

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:19:59 2018 No.11054936 >>11052987 >>11052989 The aesthetics of the roman army peaked during the first and second century AD desu. 3rd century legionnaire = an absolute tool.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 03:28:09 2018 No.11054961

>>11053771
I try to read at least one contemporary SFF book every year. Last year I read The Bear and the Nightingale, it's was comfy and quite decent. I've not decided what contemporary to read this year, maybe I'll check out Naomi Noviks new book, see if my childhood memories of her writing are correct.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 06:39:00 2018 No.11055358 Should I start The Prince of Nothing trilogy and then do The Aspect Emperor or should I dive into Malazan?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 07:06:50 2018 No.11055415 >>11055358 flip a coin

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 07:24:23 2018 No.11055455 >>11055415 I did that by posting here. Someone else must look at the result and tell me.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 07:57:22 2018 No.11055534 >>11055455 heads or tails?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 07:57:25 2018 No.11055535 >>11052934 >He just wanted greatness They all did. One of my biggest problems with the trilogy is that virtually all of the characters and factions have the same motivation (Second Empire), they only disagree on implementation details.

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:07:02 2018 No.11055554 lol the book I was reading just did a 44 year time skip

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:19:47 2018 No.11055580 >>11053998 The first half of this is good. The rest of the series is worse than hitler.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:22:22 2018 No.11055582 >>11054274 I was also disappointed with the way Red Queens War ended, it felt rushed too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 08:26:02 2018 No.11055588 >>11054920 And how women are superior to men, because they don’t let emotions cloud their judgement and as a result secretly rule the world.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 09:30:38 2018 No.11055734 >>11053528 fuck it's been a while since Palmer was mentioned, god bless. Once I'm done with exams I'm re-reading TLtL, I want to feel that wild ride again. >>11053578 it's just observed effect, trust me. plus it varies by thread.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 09:58:04 2018 No.11055790 Any cool novels with a girl protagonist?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:07:28 2018 No.11055812 >>11055790 No.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:11:42 2018 No.11055819 >>11054024 The first third or so of White luck warrior is more of the same but then it starts going and is my favorite book in the whole series. I haven't read the other two yet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:14:53 2018 No.11055827 >>11055790 library at mount char

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 10:29:27 2018 No.11055863 How are the Eisenhorn novels? I like WH40k universe and I think inquisitors are pretty cool guys.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 16:50:28 2018 No.11055998 >>11055790 what exactly do you mean when you say "cool novels?" that could be anything

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 16:51:41 2018 No.11056004 >>11055863 I really like WH400k writers but don't really like the universe enough to read about it 2bh. James Swallow's Exile and Nomad are pretty good imo. Do you know any other writers that have done something similar and done non WH400k stuff?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 16:57:01 2018 No.11056017 Are there any good Sci - Fantasy books? Books that present themselves as fantasy but at their core are sci-fi and vice versa?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 16:57:16 2018 No.11056025 >>11052987 One created an empire, the other destroyed it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 16:58:22 2018 No.11056030 >>11055790 Red Sister Nevernight Chronicles Mistborn The Lotus War Paksenarrion you didn't ask for GOOD books though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:03:36 2018 No.11056045 >>11056017 BOTNS O T N S

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:04:26 2018 No.11056051 >>11056045 Already got it lad.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:05:37 2018 No.11056053

>>11056017
Black Sun Rising, Red Rising and Deathstalker are all fundamentally fantasy stories but set in scifi universes. Book of the New Sun also straddles this gap but is a more challenging work.

also there's a punch of fantasy with post-apoc and/or scif elements i.e. A Land Fit For Heroes, Broken Empire.

Finally Red Sister and Grey Sister are fantasy stories but the world has outright scifi elements but they're not at the forefront yet and could be red herrings.

>>11055863
They're good especially for 40k novels, I'm not the biggest fan of Abnett's writing but he's miles ahead of most other writers working in the licensed tie-in business.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:08:13 2018 No.11056063 >>11056051 Dying Earth? Fifth Head of Cerberus, also by Wolfe kinda fit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:16:49 2018 No.11056091 >>11056053 >>11056063 Will check them out, thank you.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:22:33 2018 No.11056110 >>11055863 Anything 40k related written by Dan Abnett is worth reading, Eisenhorn's a classic so far as the Black Library goes, Gaunt's ghost is also really good as is Ravenor, and his standalones like Titanicus

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:23:16 2018 No.11056113

>>11056091
BSR is the best of what I mentioned (wolfe aside) btw

Merchant Princes by Charles Stross is another one that bridges the gap but it's a bit different because it only initially appears to be fantasy because he had some deal where another publisher got his next scifi book. That's more of a portal world economic/intrigue story than anything else though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:34:20 2018 No.11056162 >>11056113 Are the others actually good? Red Sister looks like YA

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:43:01 2018 No.11056195 >>11056162 I liked it enough, it's just action fantasy I'd say BSR>RR>ALFFH>RsGs>Ds>BE

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:44:18 2018 No.11056202 File: 176 KB, 428x510, myfacewhen.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11056171 >mfw I just read that his 1000 page tome covering (half of) the Targaryen history will be released this November >no Winds of Winter in sight

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 17:44:53 2018 No.11056205 >>11056195 >>11056195 Cheers lad.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:13:52 2018 No.11056337 File: 260 KB, 1033x1500, Lines-of-Departure-Marko-Kloos.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Lankets? Space marines vs. lankets?

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:18:43 2018 No.11056353
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anything like this? someone here recommended this a few weeks or so ago and i really liked it especially because there wasnt any magic involved. are there similar books? wouldnt mind something more futuristic or with aliens as indegenous people.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:21:16 2018 No.11056363

>>11055827
I got memed into reading this. The plot is cool, but the characters, including the protagonist, suck major ass. There's maybe a couple good characters, and they die. The ending also sucked, but hey, at least the author didn't try to drag it into a multi volume series, right?

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:31:26 2018 No.11056415
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Hey so if you like Lovecraft-styled spooky stuff check out The Twenty Days of Turin by Giorgio De Maria. It's a Italian novel from the 70s but was only translated into English last year and is quite good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:49:43 2018 No.11056500 >>11056337 >spend a whole book describing how the main character is learning to fight other humans >End of book: "oh btw none of that matters because I'm now copying an anime I just watched" genius writing

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:53:15 2018 No.11056522 >>11056500 Not gonna lie. I enjoyed the Blackhawk Down in Detroit parts where they were blasting welfare trash left and right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:56:46 2018 No.11056541 >>11056353 Kind of similar to Safehold, Destroyermen (which has cat people) and a Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:56:51 2018 No.11056542 Has anyone here tried Runes of Truth: A Reverse Harem Urban Fantasy by G. Bailey? It sure sounds right up my alley.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:58:14 2018 No.11056545 >>11056542 lol this is fantastic bait

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 18:58:14 2018 No.11056546 >>11056541 ill look up safehold and destroyermen thanks. read yankee already and i liked it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:29:43 2018 No.11056672 >>11054912 I know but I've never written something more than 15 pages, let alone edited it. I didn't really have a concept when I started how difficult editing was and thought it would be all downhill. Now I've been picking at it for four months

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:41:35 2018 No.11056702 >>11052757 Master and Commander the movie is great too

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:46:54 2018 No.11056716 >>11056202 yeah, that's what got me. not only is it not Winds of Winter, but it's not even releasing until the end of the year. the man is just taking the piss now.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:47:42 2018 No.11056720 [SPOILER]

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>>11054912
>>11056672
He's right, anon. Many people write, but those who become published authors are the people who meticulously rewrite their stories to fit their original vision, not the crap that usually comes out during a first draft.

You've not won anything.
You can't win anything.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 19:51:25 2018 No.11056738 >>11056672 can I read some of it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 20:43:38 2018 No.11056933 reading some more janny wurts and it's becoming painfully obvious that she was the reason Empire Trilogy was good I always thought feist got worse over time but maybe he was just never good

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:01:34 2018 No.11056982 >>11056353 I didn't like it. The interludes were way too big and boring, I ended up skipping all of them and I don't think I missed much.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 21:54:30 2018 No.11057144 File: 56 KB, 537x540, Cosmere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11053998 YOU POOR TO-BE-DISAPPOINTED SOUL

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:00:18 2018 No.11057172 >>11056541 >Destroyermen (which has cat people) Anon... Wikipedia says they are Lemur People? ;_;

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:04:50 2018 No.11057191 >>11057172 They fucking call them Cats.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:13:26 2018 No.11057225 >>11057191 >The Lemurians are often described as a mixture between a giant lemur and a cat, hence their diminutive nickname 'Cat. I could maybe accept this.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:17:28 2018 No.11057241

>>11056982
eh i didnt mind it so much when i started the second book. it was interesting reading the motivations and viewpoints of the antagonists.
i particularly liked the romance and how it built up between joseph and mera. also the tactics and how they were implemented. the opposing viewpoints were particularly great at those moments.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:18:03 2018 No.11057244 >>11057144 read a few posts down. already come and gone. Found a new series so probably won't even bother finishing that one. really was disappointing though

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:29:25 2018 No.11057290 "HUH, TAVERNER......" Buckman stops a moment to quietly fart, and then continues. "I GUESS WE REALLY ARE THE FLOW MY TEARS" the policeman said.

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:38:25 2018 No.11057338
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I'm looking for fantasy series that will leave me overawed by the author's imagination. Any series with vivid descriptions near poetry and incredible landscapes that make you feel insignificant compared to their immensity. There's just something about reading incredible depictions of fantastical nature and architecture that makes my boner rock hard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 22:45:50 2018 No.11057368 >>11057338 ERAGON

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:07:43 2018 No.11057446 >>11057338 just read impressions of africa rather than fantasy if that's what you want

Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:10:51 2018 No.11057459

>>11057338
Superluminary by John C. Wright
>inb4 s.o.y
It's not technically fantasy, but it falls into that category of "science and technology so advanced it's indistinguishable from fantasy." And the scale of the story and what transpires is literally galactic in size.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:24:52 2018 No.11057495 >>11057368 fuck off cunt

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 25 23:30:14 2018 No.11057513 File: 5 KB, 250x185, 1516209709936.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11057368 4 (four) books AND HE DIDN'T FUCK THE GODDAMN ELF

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:14:43 2018 No.11057614

>>11057513
You suffered through all the pre teen level writing, the mary sues, the macguffin after macfuguffin, the shitty teenage fedora tier world views the author ham fists in, the insanely anti climatic climax of the big bad, all foooooor

a cockblock ending

fuck Paolini, fuck his rich parents who got him published too

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:15:48 2018 No.11057617 >>11057614 i didnt suffer I enjoyed the series

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:18:05 2018 No.11057623 >>11057617 Did you read it when you were 12 too? I enjoyed it at the time but don't think I would enjoy it now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:24:42 2018 No.11057651 >>11055790 graceling

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:32:39 2018 No.11057667 >>11055790 Revelation Space

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 00:54:05 2018 No.11057733 >>11055827 >library at mount char looks interesting, thanks. >>11056017 Zelazny's Lord of Light

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 01:35:23 2018 No.11057865

>>11057623
(for me) the first one came out while I was in 6-7th grade and it seemed like half the kids in my classes had a copy, probably even more so than the harry potter books. Second one I mostly enjoyed but by the third one I was really starting to see the flaws. Pirated the last one onto my kindle and only made it 50 pages in before I had to drop it because the writing was so juvenile. No idea what actually happens with the narrative

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 01:38:19 2018 No.11057874 File: 255 KB, 487x335, 3_body_2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Who is the most important sci-fi voice of the last ten years?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:06:24 2018 No.11057942 >>11052987 The Terror?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:45:59 2018 No.11058052 >>11057733 >Zelazny's Lord of Light Alternatively, Zelazny's Creatures of Light and Darkness.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 02:46:15 2018 No.11058053

>>11056716
To be fair, with editing, translations, printing and shit it's not strange that it takes a book half a year or so to hit shelves once it's "finished". I have not interest in this book, but I think it's nice of him to be transparent about his writing process, considering his track record.

>>11057290
>Buckman stops a moment to quietly fart, and then continues.
This line will stay with me forever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 03:40:15 2018 No.11058182 >get email about GRRM book >pre-order now for HALF-PRICE! literally wat, is GRRM desperate for some of that expensive American medical care to stop his heart exploding or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:10:32 2018 No.11058237 Is The Gormenghast Triology a good entrance point on getting into a bit deeper fantasy rather than tv schlok?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:17:58 2018 No.11058254 >>11058237 Gormenghast is very different from most other fantasy. It's closer to Wuthering Heights than LotR. If you're interested in reading "literary" fantasy, I'd say it's a great start.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:21:51 2018 No.11058265 >>11057874 Honestly - and it pains me to say it - Scalzi and Blindopraxia Lad

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 04:41:40 2018 No.11058299

>>11055790
Abhorsen?
YA lit about an orphan girl being sad and having adventures in a magic country that borders 1920s England for some reson. Then she meet their their schoolboy, who has been prphesisesd to have a pspecial power, and the kill undead and necrommacers with magic bells. They also have a cool magic dog.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 05:57:56 2018 No.11058438 File: 34 KB, 312x499, nova.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11052757 >what's the Moby Dick of SFF? Nova

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>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:02:34 2018 No.11058722 >>11054274 You mean the Farseer trilogy or Farseer AND the first Tawny Man book (Fool's Errand)? I agree on Farseer, but I recently finished Fool's Errand and actually liked it a lot

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:09:28 2018 No.11058738 >>11058692 >mermaids and sea monsters any fantasy like this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:10:09 2018 No.11058740 >>11052880 wasn't .hack first?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:20:21 2018 No.11058762

i've been reading shitty litrpgs and webfiction for years now. It's just so much more convenient than standard books, and if you're okay with rifling through some trash, there are pretty good ones hidden out there. It's free, and mostly entertaining enough. Why should i go through the hassle of looking through a library for something worth reading when i can just turn on my phone and choose between thousands of fictions?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:26:22 2018 No.11058775

>>11052880
LitRPG is basically just americans trying to cash-in on the reincarnation isekai genre that's blazing hot in Japanese light novels right now. It's debatable whether SAO was the cause of the of that boost in popularity, as it was already taking over the Japanese market.

>>11058740
Yes, but .hack is entirely different, the only major similarity is "stuck in an MMO," and the rest of it is different.

In short, .hack tried to do something meaningful and tell a thought-provoking story (whether they succeeded is up to the viewer) while SAO was literally written by a Japanese teenager and is filled with cliches and pandering. The core of the story is well thought-out, but it is hardly developed and takes a backseat to the black and white characters and poorly set up drama.

>>	thiskillsthedarkelf Thu Apr 26 08:33:57 2018 No.11058796 File: 65 KB, 640x649, 1521815827330.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058762 >litrpg You don't have to qualify it anon, fun things are fun. I just wish I could also write them.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:35:57 2018 No.11058801

>>11058762
You can do whatever you want, but remember that everyone reads for different reasons and everyone has a different shit-filter. As someone who has been reading since childhood, and editing since my upper teens, I've learned to pull apart good writing and bad writing. More than the story or the characters, I read for the writing itself. Not to see the the plot develop, but to see how they're developed and why the author made the choices he did.

Others read for escape; to immerse themselves in another world. To make friends and follow them through adventures. Others just want to read and pick up whatever is in reach, without much care for the writing or sometimes even its content.

Read what you want to read. Don't let others force their do or die mentality on you. If you're just reading for occasional entertainment, you don't need to read full novels. And you certainly don't need to read some of the more ostentatious things that people here often preach about.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:38:23 2018 No.11058810

>>11058775
it's amazing how they get away with making minor variations of the same concepts and story and still sell well.

14-20 year old japanse male is transported to other world while being extremely powerful/having a special ability that lets them coast by without any personal effort. There is a goddess/summoning ritual that transports them, and the world is almost always the same, with big tiddy elves that are enslaved often, "beastmen" that conveniently look human enough to sexualize, and slavery that is always very bad except the protagonist has a few slaves but its okay because he freed them from worse masters or some shit. The rest of the world seems like it was taken from an old RPG, rather than anything resembling medieval europe, and there are no gray areas, just good and bad.

Fuck i hate those things

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:46:06 2018 No.11058828 >>11058801 thats another reason why i enjoy amateur fiction. There are many more opportunities to interact with the authors and get to know them. Many online authors have discords where you can discuss the story with them.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 08:47:56 2018 No.11058834
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>>11058762
I cannot read bad prose. Sometimes I wish I could, since there's occasionally good stories in the trash people write, but It's like I'm being offered to eat a delicious sandwich, and to eat the sandwich, I'm required to stand inside a room filled with putrid air piped in 24/7. Some rooms smell worse than others, some better, but at some point you begin to question if the sandwich is really worth it. You'll also come to realize that the "Free" rooms are usually the smelliest. It's hard to enjoy the core of the book when everything surrounding it repulses me.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 09:26:36 2018 No.11058927
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>>11058810
It's just wish fulfillment. They're transported from the real world so the person reading them can imagine the same being done to themselves. They're immediately accosted by attractive women, the exact opposite of what happens in real life. They're made out to be main characters and lionized by everyone around them, unlike their unremarkable selves. They're given power, something of which they likely have none, and struggle against distinct opposition, which allows them to revel in their own perceived superiority and fight something obvious as opposed to the nebulous and stressful, yet unremarkable difficulties they face in life. It's not hard to see why people like it. It's like all the escapism provided by sci-fi and fantasy, distilled to their essence, but losing all complexity and flavor in the process. It's like taking all the sugar out of a pound-cake and serving that instead. I'm sure some gluttonous fucks are fine with eating spoonfuls of raw sugar for their daily rush, but some people require a bit more.

The isekai genre in general is plagued by the same thing that plagues all young adult literature and twenty-something authors, and that's the horrible incest of fiction -- people who have grown up only exposed to video games, anime, and pop-fiction like Harry Potter, then inspired, fancy themselves an author and attempt to write without reading any of the classics or having experienced anything truly profound in their lives. No matter how original they think they are -- and certainly most don't even try -- they cannot help but channel the pablum they've consumed.

As long as you tick the correct boxes and tickle the right fancies, you're all set. Have you ever imagined yourself the head of a harem of catgirls? Write an isekai about it. Ever wanted supreme power that would make the school bully Cockku-kun kneel at your feet? Write an Isekai about it. Ever wanted to feel like your life actually mattered? Write an isekai about it.
It's a very simple concept, but quite potent. It's almost disgusting.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 09:42:39 2018 No.11058979 >>11057338 Vellum by Hal Duncan

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 10:36:28 2018 No.11059162 >>11058828 And even if you don't interact with them, all of the individuality and oddness hasn't been buffed out of their work by experts. It just feels more human, warts and all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 11:06:52 2018 No.11059243 >>11057874 John C. Wright

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 11:17:42 2018 No.11059278
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>>11057874
Cixin gets talked about a lot but unless he's shaping the Orient's sci-fi to a high degree I wouldn't say he's influential.

>>11059243
In the top 5 maybe, but would not say the most.

>>11058265
Yeah this lad's onto something

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 11:36:17 2018 No.11059347 Could I possibly get direction in writing something here?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 11:40:10 2018 No.11059355 >>11059243 John Onions. Wright

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 11:52:19 2018 No.11059399
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>>11059347
FUCK OFF YOU UGLY WANKER GO FUCKING DIE OF CUNT AIDS YOU UTTER SHITE HOPE YOU CHOKE ON YOUR DADS COCK TONIGHT WHILE HE TICKLES THE MELANOMAS BEHIND YOUR MOTHERS AS SHE PASSES OUT FROM THE PAIN OF HAVING YOUR DOG FUCK HER

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 12:05:12 2018 No.11059426 >>11059347 Go to the appropriate thread, or create one, or look on other sites.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 12:26:26 2018 No.11059488 >>11059399 boi

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 12:49:42 2018 No.11059562 The aiel have to be one of the most retarded racesI've ever seen in fantasy. >desert people >red hair >green eyes >pale skin >women warriors >no swords

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 12:54:55 2018 No.11059578 The One power has to be one of the most retarded things I've ever seen in fantasy. >can create fire >out of nothing >doesn't need air at all >literally no matches >females can do so as well

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:06:17 2018 No.11059621
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Just finished book 5. Should I keep reading this shit?

I liked Book 4 but holy shit I can't stand all these meta bullshit. Its not even clever or tongue in cheek. Its lazy and poorly done. And its getting worse. It was bad enough that Book 4 was set in The Stand, but most of the book had nothing to do with that so I could ignore it. But book 5 was filled to the brim was painful references (hurr durr Harry Potter) that treats the reader like a mongoloid grade schooler.

I heard in Book 6 he writes himself into the book. I cannot even imagine that being done well.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:23:53 2018 No.11059665 Any good feminist power fantasy novels? Preferably where men gets what's coming to them.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:24:28 2018 No.11059668 >>11059665 Age of Myth and Age of Swords

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:25:31 2018 No.11059670 File: 110 KB, 424x640, 35DEC57B-75B3-4BEB-A7E2-F29C993D5A09.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058265 >scalzi No

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 13:51:13 2018 No.11059759 >>11059578 Women wiggling their fingers about to make fire is more realistic than women being useful warriors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:05:55 2018 No.11059824 >>11054024 I enjoyed the Prince of Nothing series but the constant (mass)necrophilia, (mass)cannibalism and (mass)gay rape in the Aspect Emperor just made me really fucking depressed

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:32:01 2018 No.11059908 I want to find good military fantasy that has low magic and high strategy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:42:01 2018 No.11059950 >>11059908 What's military fantasy?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:48:38 2018 No.11059973

>>11059562
To be fair, they used to be tree-hugging hippies before they moved to the Three-Fold Land. Considering that was only ~3,000 years ago, it's not impossible for them to have retained their fairer features.
No swords was basically just a religious belief.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:49:10 2018 No.11059975 >>11059950 a military fantasy is when you wrongly think that the specific details of battles are interesting

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:51:20 2018 No.11059983 >>11059975 So like Warlord Chronicles, or something written by Christian Cameron?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 14:52:32 2018 No.11059987 Any good scifi with mechs? Kinda interested in them again after all the fuss about battletech

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:04:22 2018 No.11060023 >>11059824 >the constant (mass)necrophilia, (mass)cannibalism and (mass)gay rape But that's the best parts.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:07:45 2018 No.11060037 >>11059824 I was going to Bakker after I finish WoT in 20 years, but I don't want to now.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:13:08 2018 No.11060054 >>11059975 Battles and their strategies are interesting to many people

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:48:41 2018 No.11060164 >>11056541 >Destroyermen (which has cat people) is there human on cat people romance? asking for a friend.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:52:08 2018 No.11060176 >>11060164 Implied, but not explicit.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:53:32 2018 No.11060183 >>11060176 Best kind.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 15:54:23 2018 No.11060188 >>11060176 i dont mean explicit sex scenes but actual romance that is building up and plays a role in the story.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:12:39 2018 No.11060242

>>11059621
Do yourself a favor and read The Jerusalem Man trilogy by David Gemmell instead. I have no idea if Gemmell read The Dark Tower and said to himself, "Pfft I can do this better," or if he simply wanted to do his own version of The Dark Tower, but either way it's MUCH better than what King wrote AND there's no meta bullshit at all.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:15:37 2018 No.11060252 >>11059908 Why even bother needing it to be fantasy then?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 16:16:09 2018 No.11060255 >>11060188 Same answer. I remember one couple tease members of their respective species by making them believe they're doing it, but this may be to disguise the fact that the actually are. It's not clear. I read it a long time ago.

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:48:08 2018 No.11060605

please gib advice
I've read Against a Dark Background by Iain M. Banks and I enjoyed it thoroughly, to this day it's one of my favorite books
I then read some 50-100 pages of Consider Phlebas and I fount it less than mildly interesting, mostly because of the dull characters and how the battles/fights/scenarios are portrayed
I'd like to read other Banks SF and some Culture books are pretty highly regarded, are all of these similar to Consider Phlebas and if that's not the case will I lose much if I read some of them without having finished Consider Phlebas?

kthnxby

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:51:39 2018 No.11060613
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So I was watching Annihilation and Alex Garland basically took this straight from the Book of the New Sun, right? Now, I don't remember the name of the monster but it was basically the same thing.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 17:57:10 2018 No.11060635 >>11060613 The Alzabo? Does it absorb the minds of those it eats?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:01:44 2018 No.11060657 >>11060635 Yeah, that. Not exactly. It "merged" with the woman when she died. Apparently it's an adaptation of a novel trilogy, dunno if this part was in the original novel but it seems suspiciously similar to the Book of the New Sun.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:03:41 2018 No.11060667 >>11060657 Looks creepy as fuck desu.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:08:34 2018 No.11060680 why do litrpg authors think that their protag can take a mob thats like 10+ levels above them have they literally never played an rpg before

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:11:30 2018 No.11060695 >>11058834 Yea its rough dealing with all the english second language writers Or the people who think they need to write like they are in a fucking manga or w/e

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:24:58 2018 No.11060755 File: 487 KB, 704x480, M.E. Myself and I.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Any sf/f books with this feel? interpret the webm however you will

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:27:41 2018 No.11060769 >>11060755 Black Company, get a croaker and Lady feeling. It's probably father and daughter but I can't think of anything like that.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:39:45 2018 No.11060834 >>11060755 BotNS

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:40:49 2018 No.11060839 Why does Lovecraft keep implying that the Yeti is a fucking crab with wings?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:48:00 2018 No.11060883 Is The Magicians by Lev Grossman good or nah?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:49:15 2018 No.11060892 >>11060839 Do you have any evidence to the contrary?

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:49:32 2018 No.11060897

>>11060605
You can easily read all of the culture books without having read Consider Phlebas. Its somewhat different from most of the other books. They will occasionally reference is since its the only war the culture has ever really been a part of but no further understanding is really necessary.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:49:32 2018 No.11060898 File: 698 KB, 1920x800, 1523530254299.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11060883 >Lev >Grossman

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 18:51:21 2018 No.11060907 >>11060883 The first one is. The sequels are pretty well constructed but unnecessary and lack any real spark.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 19:07:37 2018 No.11061011 >>11059665 Library at mount char. It's shit though.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 19:40:17 2018 No.11061198 is slice of life sci-fi/fantasy/genre a thing? where there's no big bad and the characters just do comfy things like grow up and have relationships?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 19:41:51 2018 No.11061206 >>11061198 not very common in western books. you might wanna look into light novels for that.

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>>11061198
The nearest I can think is Robert Silverberg's Lord Valentine's Castle, a fantasy that was deliberately written in a happy and picturesque tone. No gritty anti-heroes or grimdarkness, just an exiled prince traveling through a big world and making friends while juggling in a traveling circus. It's the sort of book where difficulties are overcome by the amiability of the protagonist rather than by swordfights. Any nascent appearance of gloom or tension dissipates with a good-natured chuckle of the protag among his gang in a cheesy TV or anime sort of way.

It's not as interesting or exciting as his other books but that is sort of the point.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:10:39 2018 No.11061319 >>11061198 library at mount char

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:14:02 2018 No.11061336 >>11060613 read more than one book you fuck

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:15:04 2018 No.11061341 >>11060907 I kinda felt the opposite, I hated the first because the depression was boring to read but liked the second one

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:16:16 2018 No.11061347 Anyone read the Recluce books? I was gonna look into them months ago but forgot what they were called

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:40:24 2018 No.11061447 >>11061319 Stop mentioning this book. It's shit and it's not even what he asked for.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 20:49:00 2018 No.11061484 Give me a fantasy book to read. I like the genre but wouldn't say I've delved heavily. I've taken a look at the OP and there's a ton to choose from. Thinking about the final empire

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:01:16 2018 No.11061542 >>11061447 It's great, but it's not what he asked for

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:16:00 2018 No.11061585 File: 10 KB, 181x281, 1473700023150.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11061319 is this a new meme to just suggest this for every question? what happened to my diary desu?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:20:53 2018 No.11061608 >>11061585 It's just one guy. But you should listen to him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:24:16 2018 No.11061623 any other good stuff by the author for library at mountain st clair?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:28:42 2018 No.11061639 File: 33 KB, 315x474, 51Q5R10Z5AL._SX313_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11061623 this masterpiece

Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:36:25 2018 No.11061662

>>11053898
This, I don't know why I still skim this general to be honest, almost completely worthless for recommendations. Sci-fi and fantasy especially have a significant division between people who read them for the setting and ideas and people who lean more towards characters and plot, and then within those there's various relevant details you might care about when forming an opinion on what to read next. Think the one time I saw someone give an actually detailed review they got accused of "blogging", really activates your almonds.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 21:39:28 2018 No.11061671 >tfw a meme you created starts to take off

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:24:29 2018 No.11061852 >>11061608 t. the one guy

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:32:38 2018 No.11061892 Why did I think the library at mt char was an 80 year old book? What am I confusing it with?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:38:24 2018 No.11061919 >>11061892 I always think of Borges, then I remember it's some contemporary book.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:40:03 2018 No.11061931 with a female protag too

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:50:05 2018 No.11061982 What are the "little signs" to look out for to avoid reading trashy fantasy I only know two >pop culture references >specific real world locations

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:52:47 2018 No.11061992 >>11061982 Any out-of-universe reference is a fucking cardinal sin as far as I'm concerned.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:54:22 2018 No.11061996 werewolves bringing up hitler/holocaust/injun genocide on a completely different world

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 22:58:32 2018 No.11062006 >>11061982 how could there be pop culture references in fantasy? seems more of a sci fi sin

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:13:52 2018 No.11062043 File: 238 KB, 1600x1341, 1445107308295.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Need a recommendation, I want to read something in the same vein as darkest dungeon and the black company. Mercenary's fighting unspeakable horrors.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:15:02 2018 No.11062045 >>11061852 He doesn't use capitalization

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:26:22 2018 No.11062080 >>11062043 Stranger of Tempest is exactly what you want

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:28:28 2018 No.11062089 Does dune ever pick up? im a couple hours in on the audio book and im losing interest a bit. The setting is really neat but it seems like its dragging on. inb4 >audiobooks I listen to them at work, hard copies are for home.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:42:42 2018 No.11062138 >>11062089 does anyone here actually clown on people for listening to audiobooks?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 26 23:57:24 2018 No.11062181 Smut audiobooks r good

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:26:36 2018 No.11062252 >>11062043 The Vagrant by Peter Newman?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 00:38:43 2018 No.11062289 >>11062089 despite being a classic, Dune shows its age since practically every sci-fi novel has borrowed heavily from it since then. I had the same experience listening to the LOTR audiobooks.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 01:16:09 2018 No.11062381 >>11061639 install gentoo

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 02:54:15 2018 No.11062591 >>11062138 >audiobooks

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:01:16 2018 No.11062608 >>11062138 Rob Inglis or Phil Dragash?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:04:45 2018 No.11062616 >>11062138 >>11062089 Yeah there's literally nothing wrong with audiobooks Especially if you listen to them when you couldn't be reading otherwise Like I listen to them while driving for work

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:15:08 2018 No.11062647 >>11060892 Yeah, loads of folklore and myths about it being a fuckhuge ape.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:17:51 2018 No.11062657 >>11062616 I listen to lectures while working and the occasional podcast. History of Rome and Watts are great.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:19:42 2018 No.11062665 >>11061484 What other books have you enjoyed? Both fantasy and others.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 03:22:51 2018 No.11062672 >>11062138 Audiobooks listeners are absolute plebs in nine cases out of ten but I usually don't complain when others talk about them.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:10:57 2018 No.11062918 >>11060023 The problem is that after a while that's ALL the parts.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:17:59 2018 No.11062924 >>11062672 They're usually lazy shits with no attention span or patience. 1/10 are people that enjoy them genuinely or don't have the time to read.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:37:22 2018 No.11062948 File: 629 KB, 392x650, blind_boyo.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11058265 >Blindopraxia Lad I tend to agree. I'm not sure we realize what we have on our hands here. Is he writing anything?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:42:53 2018 No.11062954 >>11062924 >or don't have the time to read But reading a book is literally faster than listening to it. It only make sense if you listen while walking your dog, or some other activity that require like no thinking at all.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 05:43:14 2018 No.11062956 >>11057874 Too Like the Memes Blindopraxia

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:04:41 2018 No.11062985 File: 50 KB, 295x475, 625603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Are the Warhammer 40k books worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:06:03 2018 No.11062990 >>11062924 I read and listen to the audiobook at the same time. What does that make me?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:20:42 2018 No.11063027 >>11061336 There's more than one good fantasy book? I thought the only good one was LOTR.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:25:05 2018 No.11063044 >>11062985 Eisenhorn books were entertaining to read, and that's coming from someone who doesn't care for warhammer setting.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:26:15 2018 No.11063046 >>11061198 Twelve Kingdoms, Jinrui wa Suitai Shimashita, Kino no Tabi. Might want as well to check out Mahou Tsukai no Yome. >>11061336 What does it change if someone else copied BOTNS too?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:31:08 2018 No.11063058 >>11061982 I'll give you the biggest sign to avoid a book. >gets posted in /sffg/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 06:33:07 2018 No.11063062 >>11062990 a very slow reader

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 07:36:45 2018 No.11063177 >>11062990 Bisexual

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 07:38:13 2018 No.11063183 >>11063044 Are the Caiaphas Cain books good? The name itself is quite extraordinary and I'm inclined to read them based on that and only that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 07:39:26 2018 No.11063185 >>11063183 Haven't read it, sorry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:15:27 2018 No.11063416 >>11059621 Sounds like you wouldn't enjoy continuing.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:16:49 2018 No.11063420 >>11059908 The Ten Thousand by Paul Kearney

thiskillsthedarkelf Fri Apr 27 09:20:05 2018 No.11063431
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Looking for YA fantasy with a female protagonist, preferably novella but novels are fine too.

For research purposes.

>>11062985
Most of them are battle porn and quite shallow but can be a comfy read if you're in the mood for it.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:21:17 2018 No.11063434 >>11063183 i read some trilogy that comes in one book. it was decent enough, nothing special.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:23:18 2018 No.11063441 File: 135 KB, 672x1024, the-scar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11052757 >Adventures at Sea Edition >ctrl+f "The Scar" >nada gg /lit/

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:35:11 2018 No.11063473 >>11063431 >YA fantasy with a female protagonist Howl's Moving Castle.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:50:21 2018 No.11063518

>>11062665
I'm a huge lotr fan, but I really am not looking for a Tolkien derivative fantasy novel. I don't mind if there are some inspirations, but really don't want to read about a new world with the same pretty elves, dwarves, orcs, etc. Mostly because I just compare it to Tolkiens original races and how his are just so much better (do to all the development they have)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:52:15 2018 No.11063524 >>11062665 Also should add, though sci fi, I really enjoyed the Ender series, though not Enders shadow.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 09:56:28 2018 No.11063539 File: 91 KB, 1420x946, 03-Sabriel.w710.h473.2x.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11063431 MY GURL

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 10:07:02 2018 No.11063585 >>11063539 >"Game of Thrones fans will love the New York Times bestselling Abhorsen series." >Hunger Games cover anon, this isn't looking too dandy...

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 10:45:50 2018 No.11063687 >Started The Darkness That Comes Before >Absolutely confused after 2 hours of listening Am I a brainlet?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 10:48:35 2018 No.11063697 File: 9 KB, 313x400, 9780007182367.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is there a consensus on what's the best Lord of the Rings edition? Anyone got this red Harper Collins one?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:05:04 2018 No.11063737 >>11063697 Imagine reading that in bed.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:09:52 2018 No.11063749 >>11063737 >reading in bed

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:15:26 2018 No.11063767 >>11063749 I only read in bed. Wait, don't tell me you losers read on a table or something?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:25:24 2018 No.11063800 >>11063767 obviously sitting reclined in a comfy armchair is the only way leg over leg & cuppa tea optional

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:28:32 2018 No.11063808 >>11063767 Rocking chair in front of gas fireplace

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:34:25 2018 No.11063836 >>11063687 Wasn't the first hour of it a recap of the previous books? It'll all fall in place eventually.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:35:35 2018 No.11063839 >>11063800 >>11063808 Are you 80?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 11:54:21 2018 No.11063893 >>11063767 Dining room table by candlelight, or in bed (candles optional).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 12:13:46 2018 No.11063957 File: 10 KB, 275x183, faier.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11063893 >reading in bed (candles optional) >gets to a particularly boring part >drift off

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 12:31:26 2018 No.11064025 >>11063957 I did that a few times and the candle just melted down and died because I'm not an idiot who put it next to something flammable. Candles are comfy as hell and great for immersion, second only to a crackling fireplace. .

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:19:00 2018 No.11064229
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Does anyone have the two new books from the Memory Sorrow Thorn saga? Can't seem to find them online anywhere for illegal download and it has been a while since they came out.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:20:04 2018 No.11064232
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Hey /lit/, there's a particular PKD chart I'm looking for. I saw it posted on here over a week ago but didn't save it and now I can't find it. Please post whatever PKD guides you have.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:21:30 2018 No.11064238 how graphic does the content in a fantasy story have to be to not be labelled YA?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:30:08 2018 No.11064276 File: 57 KB, 287x475, 518848.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11063585 they re-released the series with that cover literally to appeal to retarded YA fans. here's the actual cover.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:33:04 2018 No.11064290 >>11064276 The versions I got as a kids just had some symbols on them Abhorsen came with a minidisk with extra lore on it lol

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:57:48 2018 No.11064375
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Is pic related considered sci-fi? If so, can we please discuss this book?

I haven't finished it, and it's already one of my favorite books. It's not an easy read at all, but it can be extremely engaging at times, even though some passages need to be re-read at least a couple times to be actually understood. In many places it actually gives me a very Book of the New Sun vibe (there's even a few passages in which the narrator explains that all the high-tech stuff in Eumeswil was actually salvaged from the catacombs beneath the city, much like the "miners" of Urth are actually digging to find ancient tech in buried cities) - and I love all the historical discussion that goes on in the novel, it's the only sci-fi novel that's set in the future but spends a lot of time reflecting on the past

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 13:58:18 2018 No.11064380
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>>11064232
Yuck I made this and was instantly ashamed of it I really hope you're not thinking too deep into it
Dick discussion is pretty frequent if you've got questions I say just ask em

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 14:07:11 2018 No.11064416 >>11064375 >When God floats down from heaven and looks like this and moves in to complete the Qaaba

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 15:03:29 2018 No.11064637 >>11064229 What new books? You mean the sequel trilogy? Google tad williams vk. Click the third link down, a short scroll and you'll see the first book in the new trilogy (The Witchwood Crown), and the original trilogy is also there in a zip file.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:08:44 2018 No.11065217 >>11060897 thanks

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:20:19 2018 No.11065275 Going away for a week recommend me some epic fantasy to read please. I've read most of the really popular stuff like Lotr, Sanderson, Wot and Malazan but kinda ignored the genre otherwise.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:37:03 2018 No.11065323 I'll ask this in the new thread when it gets created, but have any of you actually bothered reading David Gemmell when asking for suggestions and I recommend him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 17:43:47 2018 No.11065355 >>11065323 nah, he sounds lame af. what kind of name is Gemmell anyway? i could be reading SANDERSON, or ERIKSON, or WOLF(E).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:18:21 2018 No.11065462 >>11052989 Black Company.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:19:50 2018 No.11065469 >>11053998 too bad the other books are pure trash, it is literary printed on stolen newspapers from hobos which they used to cover themself in the night because everyone refused to print it

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:22:31 2018 No.11065480 >>11059243 Muh space catholics

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:41:43 2018 No.11065542 >>11065355 f-fuck you!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:43:27 2018 No.11065544 >>11065323 I read Gemmell but not because of you although the talk about Jerusalem man the other day prompted me to read more of him also his wife is a better writer

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 18:44:11 2018 No.11065547 What is the best contemporary sci-fi/fantasy? The more recent the better.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:02:15 2018 No.11065624 >>11065547 library at mount char :)

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:13:09 2018 No.11065672

>>11065547
stuff from roughly the past 2 years that I've enjoyed (I'll avoid older series):

Vorrh/Erstwhile, Senlin Ascends, The City (S. Gemmell), Two of Swords, Vick's Vultures, Luna: New Moon, Null States, Silver on the Road, The Fortress at the End of Time, Killing Gravity, Mercenary Deck, The Sacred Era (translation is recent book is old), Hunger Makes the Wolf, Grey Sister, Iliad (War Nerd/John Dolan retelling), Too Like the Lightning, Twelve Kings in Sharakhai and The Craft Sequence's latest books.
Finally it's a follow up to an old series but the new Tad Williams is great.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:30:36 2018 No.11065738
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>>11052757
How do you learn to write fiction properly? Obviously practice and reading will help, but is there anything more to it? Good prose makes a big difference, just compare ASOIAF and LOTR, Tolkien is many levels above GRRM as a writer and it shows.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:50:24 2018 No.11065831 >>11065738 Your post is off-topic.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:57:56 2018 No.11065867

>>11065738
I have strong opinions on the subject.
Firstly, there is a base skill level. Some people have a mindset that is inherently better suited to writing (people with more empathy etc) so they will advance much faster than others. Reading as a child gives people a huge advantage, especially if it's more advanced than short novella-type works.

But practice can outweigh any of those advantages. The real kicker, imo is that many people make the writing take a backseat to the story/plot. As self-published works get more attention and notoriety, the audience of readers is also shifting. People are reading books to read a movie, things are more formulaic and fast-paced and easy to absorb.

Writers aren't finding their voice, usually because they're not reading. The mind is like a sponge, and reading is key to honing one's skill. It should influence you enough that you find yourself wanting to write like the authors you're reading, and you should try writing chapters, maybe even short stories, using their tone, trying to recreate the feeling they invoked in you. While doing so, you subconsciously are finding what works for you and what doesn't.

tl;dr, no, some people are naturally better, but reading and writing are what really matter

also i can't stand Tolkien, but i do agree he's leagues above GRRM and Weeks and the like

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 19:59:00 2018 No.11065876 >>11065738 marketing.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:00:00 2018 No.11065882
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The Crack in Time by PKD was pretty meh. I don't know if it is related to me noticing the frequent trends and patterns in his novels but the story was also lackluster. A lot of stuff happened but the end writing just seemed odd. Oh well.
Imposter was nice.
I started Eye in the Sky, the premise seems like he could make it interesting.
also reading new one piece, shieeeeet this worldbuilding is insane

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:04:04 2018 No.11065901

Reading the first book of the Black Company and man, it just does not grab me at all. I can deal with the sparse prose, since it fits in with the mercenary narrator and tone, but the plot is just random shit happening all in all. I have to actively make myself turn the page every time.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:05:56 2018 No.11065911 Make the new Thread OP Anon. You did a good job before.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:32:36 2018 No.11066025

>>11057338

Jack Vance

Dying Earth

The Demon Prince Saga

Every paragraph is dense. Especially in Dying Earth Vance will create entire histories and nations and declines in falls in a single paragraph, all to build up this sad, strange, yet amazing world

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:54:35 2018 No.11066106 >>11061198 >is slice of life sci-fi/fantasy/genre a thing? where there's no big bad and the characters just do comfy things like grow up and have relationships? Recluce books

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 20:57:06 2018 No.11066115 >>11062985 If its by Dan Abnett or if its Ciaphas Cain its a safe read. Aside from that its based on you really being into the setting and authors that are good that came after I stopped being as invested.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 21:08:39 2018 No.11066150 >>11066106 seriously this is the perfect rec, one of them spends 150 pages just on woodwork

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 21:16:33 2018 No.11066190

Anybody got words about Seabury Quinn? I ran across a collection of his stuff on Amazon and the blurb intrigued me.
>Today the names of H. P. Lovecraft, Robert E. Howard, August Derleth, and Clark Ashton Smith, all regular contributors to the pulp magazine Weird Tales during the first half of the twentieth century, are recognizable even to casual readers of the bizarre and fantastic. And yet despite being more popular than them all during the golden era of genre pulp fiction, there is another author whose name and work have fallen into obscurity: Seabury Quinn.

>Quinn’s short stories were featured in well more than half of Weird Tales’s original publication run. His most famous character, the supernatural French detective Dr. Jules de Grandin, investigated cases involving monsters, devil worshippers, serial killers, and spirits from beyond the grave, often set in the small town of Harrisonville, New Jersey. In de Grandin there are familiar shades of both Arthur Conan Doyle’s Sherlock Holmes and Agatha Christie’s Hercule Poirot, and alongside his assistant, Dr. Samuel Trowbridge, de Grandin’s knack for solving mysteries—and his outbursts of peculiar French-isms (grand Dieu!)—captivated readers for nearly three decades.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:05:42 2018 No.11066407 >>11065544 >also his wife is a better writer Nice try, Gemmell's wife.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:07:06 2018 No.11066408

>>11062985
I basically took 6 months of my life last year and read all the Horus Heresy books in a row and I dont regret it, good parts are really good, and if you like the setting you'll likely enjoy most of them. I would 100% say that its the best out of extended sci fi universes that feature this many books (star trek, star wars for example).

There are a few weak ones, I especially didnt like any of the anthology books for example, but the themes are for the most part good and you end up really caring for a lot of characters in the series, and every instance of betrayal is deeply felt.

All the battle porn kinda blends with each other though, so whenever it comes to actual battles I would just read at 2x speed.

And, I actually enjoyed Horus Heresy over Eisenhorn, felt the plot on Eisenhorn was all over the place, and much prefer HH Abnett over that. Gaunt's Ghosts is great though too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:30:50 2018 No.11066470 >>11065672 Thanks!

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:32:53 2018 No.11066481 >>11063518 Lyonesse.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:36:52 2018 No.11066501 What is some Urban fantasy as good as the Magicians?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:37:45 2018 No.11066504 >>11066501 dresden files its better

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:38:38 2018 No.11066506 >>11066504 From what i've seen Dresden Files seems a lot more pulpy

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:50:09 2018 No.11066547 >>11066501 Not really fantasy but give Lexicon a read

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:52:52 2018 No.11066557 >>11066547 The description looks really interesting. I may just check this out.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:56:28 2018 No.11066569 >>11066501 The genre is overweighted with schlock. Have you tried China Mieville?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 22:59:28 2018 No.11066577 >>11066190 Sounds right up my alley. I'll have to look into him.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:12:27 2018 No.11066630 >>11066506 And that's a good thing, retard.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:21:37 2018 No.11066665 What's the closest thing the lovecraft mythos has to an iconic hero?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:31:50 2018 No.11066704 >>11066630 Not necessarily, retard

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:32:35 2018 No.11066708

>>11064276
they always release books with new covers in whatever's the current design fad

>>11065323
i don't request suggestions but Jerusalem looks interesting. i've added it to my long backlog.

i read Legend from a friend's advise and it was solid.

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:41:13 2018 No.11066757

>>11065738
This is a huge topic but I'd recommend reading books and listening to podcasts about both writing and movies. Once you have some words down and have edited it, find some other writers to get critiques.
>Do not give them first drafts.
>Friends and family won't give good critiques.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:48:57 2018 No.11066786 >>11066757 How do I find writers that I can trust?

Anonymous Fri Apr 27 23:58:02 2018 No.11066824

>>11066786
It's trial and error. Critiquing is its own skill and people get better at it but beginners are going to be not-great. And then some people are just going to have different taste than you and are going to make suggestions that you'll hate.

I basically hung out with different writing groups and have a few people I know I can go to. I have a new writing group that I need to befriend more so that I can ask people there to do critiques, once I get some more words down.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 00:03:45 2018 No.11066843 >>11065738 >just compare ASOIAF and LOTR, Tolkien is many levels above GRRM as a writer and it shows. Rolling my eyes so hard at this shit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 00:06:49 2018 No.11066852 >>11063893 >Dining room table by candlelight RIP your eyes

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 00:08:01 2018 No.11066856 >>11063518 I think some Sanderson will fit you well then. Go with your instinct and read Final Empire. Or maybe Stormlight Archive if you want some fuckhuge books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 00:08:51 2018 No.11066858 >>11066824 >tfw autistic introvert who can't handle writing groups >tfw also not writing frequently enough to join in

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 00:20:46 2018 No.11066892 >>11066506 i wouldnt say its more pulpy. but def more anime.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 00:49:15 2018 No.11066991 >>11066858 there are definitely sites for online writing critique groups. i've never tried them. i don't recommend taking the /lit/ writing critique threads seriously.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 28 02:33:00 2018 No.11067302 >>11065462 Soulcatcher a bestgirl.

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