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Anonymous Sat Apr 21 21:53:55 2018 No.11039653 [Reply] [Original]

Thoughts on this?
https://www.gq.com/story/21-books-you-dont-have-to-read

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 21:55:36 2018 No.11039655 >>11039653 yes, everyone will think it's nonsense, and it is nonsense, now after this post the thread will devolve into women-bashing /pol/ drivel

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:00:36 2018 No.11039676 >>11039653 Please stop giving that clickbait attention. If you want thoughts on it look in the archive for yesterday's thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:01:32 2018 No.11039681 >>11039653 That is the dumbest article I've read from GQ in ... oh, a month. People just write garbage for clicks.

>>	saucy Sat Apr 21 22:03:28 2018 No.11039689 >>11039653 >don't have to read Sluahgterhouse-Five >fail to grasp the basics of black-comedy and satire Welp.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:05:27 2018 No.11039694 File: 564 KB, 719x719, 1480523822666.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw both GQ and Esquire have been ruined >tfw the sophisticated men's magazine is dead

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:05:57 2018 No.11039699 >>11039655 >>11039676 Shit, sorry, didn't know there'd already been a thread on this. Should've checked.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:18:39 2018 No.11039754 >>11039694 The New Criterion is still going strong.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:22:04 2018 No.11039768 File: 73 KB, 500x500, 1520020077549.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11039754 >The New Criterion is the home of art and cultural criticism for enlightened readers.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:25:55 2018 No.11039779 >>11039689 They didn't get Catch 22 either. They are brainlets

saucy Sat Apr 21 22:27:22 2018 No.11039787

>>11039779
Catch-22 is notorious in literary circles as a book "no one has read." People joke about it all the time, iirc.

>He hasn't read it. Why would he? It's a Catch-22.

Still you probably can extract a lot more out of that book about the human condition than most other postmodern novels.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:29:20 2018 No.11039790 File: 52 KB, 791x800, eeeeeee.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11039787 >the human condition

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:30:15 2018 No.11039793

>>11039787
Idk, I'd say it's pretty much the pinnacle of Post-modern, more so than Vonnegut. Even if not for the message it tries to create, its just a brilliant read if not for the ending alone. The blend of humor and darkness is nearly unmatched as far as I'm concerned.

>>	saucy Sat Apr 21 22:31:28 2018 No.11039799 File: 687 KB, 432x286, coinflip.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11039790 >not knowing about human iniquity

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:33:37 2018 No.11039808 >>11039799 whomst are you quoting?

>>	saucy Sat Apr 21 22:34:36 2018 No.11039814 >>11039808 I saw the brainlet wojack... I just assumed...

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:35:30 2018 No.11039817 File: 53 KB, 540x720, 1523049210799.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11039653 >I never could get into Joseph Heller's Catch-22. It fails to capture the absurdities and impossible conflicts of war.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:37:14 2018 No.11039827
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>>11039653
> have never been able to fathom why The Catcher in the Rye is such a canonical novel. Alternatively, I'd suggest Olivia, the story of a British teenage girl who is sent to a boarding school in France. It is short and written in a kind of levelheaded and deceptively straightforward style.

What in the fuck. How Can they not see the style and craft in Salinger?

>Bashes on F&Z

Let these hacks burn

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:38:21 2018 No.11039829

>>11039653
>I actually love Lonesome Dove, but I'm convinced that the cowboy mythos, with its rigid masculine emotional landscape, glorification of guns and destruction, and misogynistic gender roles, is a major factor in the degradation of America.

>I actually love Lonesome Dove

>>	saucy Sat Apr 21 22:38:52 2018 No.11039837 >>11039817 >We're gonna die, you know that right? >Yeah, but we don't HAVE to die if we do our job >WE'RE IN A WAR >Yeaaaaaah, buuuuuut still.... it's a catch-22

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:38:57 2018 No.11039838 File: 47 KB, 500x529, 1366604072074.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11039787 >>11039779 I couldnt finish it. I didnt find the satire or the black comedy amusing, effective, or profound It was a very annoying and tedious read

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:40:29 2018 No.11039843 >>11039838 How far did you get? Some part where rather dull, but generally it picks up rather quickly I thought. As I said, the ending is probably my favorite part and likely one of the best ending lines I've ever read.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:43:02 2018 No.11039854

>>11039843
I cant remember now, its been a while. I think somewhere around 15 chapters, or just under 200 pages. Not even half of it, but fucking god man. There was nothing there but bad jokes and a setup that couldnt finish with itself quickly enough.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:45:06 2018 No.11039860 >>11039653 Death Comes for the Bishop is good at least.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:46:21 2018 No.11039864 File: 235 KB, 1600x1600, total soy.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11039653 Had to check the date on the article to make sure it wasn't posted on 1st of this month.

>>	saucy Sat Apr 21 22:46:45 2018 No.11039866 >>11039838 >>11039843 This, the novel takes a while to pick up. By the time Milo is introduced, the story really takes off. Dunbar and Cathcart are also really invaluable.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:51:51 2018 No.11039879

>>11039653
>telling regular everyman male subscribers of GQ to leave Ernest Hemingway and start reading Tove Jansson instead
This is so over the top that it comes off as satire. It's amazing what these vampires will do to a home if you're dumb enough to invite them in. Watch GQ bleed subscriptions now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:53:23 2018 No.11039884 >>11039866 Milo and his syndicate are fantastic. The generals are great as well, though I can't remember their names.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:53:28 2018 No.11039885 >>11039879 A parasite has no concern about killing off its host.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:54:25 2018 No.11039887 >>11039879 Did you read their reason for not liking The Old Man and the Sea? Jesus Christ.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:55:57 2018 No.11039890 >>11039768 >I filter my opiniones through 4chan memes and prejudices I'm sorry, Anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:57:48 2018 No.11039900 >>11039885 True. And for the record I literally own that Jansson book, but these shifty wrongthink tactics are disgusting. Let men be men.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 22:57:48 2018 No.11039901

>>11039887
> Mostly, I kept hoping the fish would get away without too much damage. (When my grandpa pushed me to catch a trout at a fish farm, I threw the rod into the pond.)
>Jeff VanderMeer, 'Annihilation'

There's something deeply embarrassing about a vegetarian male.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 23:00:16 2018 No.11039909 >Grandpa tries to bond with his grandson >Little faggot throws his rod away Christ this list is awful

>>	saucy Sat Apr 21 23:04:40 2018 No.11039920 >>11039909 Your perspicacious understanding of the article is pretty.... funny.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 02:18:19 2018 No.11040747 >>11039653 >read books by niggers instead!! whoa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 04:26:38 2018 No.11041047 >>11039653 >reading inherent vice instead of something with substance

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 05:10:44 2018 No.11041138 >>11039655 >the thread will devolve into women-bashing Let the guilty hang.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 05:28:12 2018 No.11041194 >>11039837 stop posting here

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 05:32:10 2018 No.11041207 >>11039879 Tove Jansson is great, and she even wrote a sort of homage to Hemingway's The Old Man and the Sea called Moominpappa at Sea.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 05:46:11 2018 No.11041239 >>11039653 More like One Article I Don't Have To Read

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 05:53:08 2018 No.11041252 >>11039653 its almost like they intended to make an offensively shitty list to make people talk about their bullshit

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 06:00:02 2018 No.11041270 >>11039653 It's an obvious shitpost, but I will say that when I read Catcher In The Rye I didn't see what the big deal was.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 06:21:21 2018 No.11041308 >>11039787 >>He hasn't read it. Why would he? It's a Catch-22. Literary """"humor""""

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 22 09:15:34 2018 No.11041742 >>11039653 This is clickbait. A perfect example of it. Why are you posting this?

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