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Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:25:39 2018 No.11036757 [DELETED]

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So /pol/, is he pseud?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:26:01 2018 No.11036759 >>11036757 Yes.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:28:29 2018 No.11036767 >>11036757 No, but he's still annoying.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:30:11 2018 No.11036772 >>11036757 Yes

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:31:13 2018 No.11036778 >/pol/

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:32:23 2018 No.11036784
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>>11036757
He's a blogger.
Today, for some contrived reason, bloggers think themselves polymaths, even philosophers.
Also, reminder that this man eradicated Harris's magical world.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:36:45 2018 No.11036800 >>11036784 Even though Chomsky fucked him in that debate, Sam's initial point was still valid. Intent is something that has to be taken into consideration when judging the policies of a particular nation because it can indicate future action.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:38:22 2018 No.11036808 >/pol/ Oh, I get it.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:46:07 2018 No.11036840

>>11036757
No. He has an MA in philosophy from Stanford and a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience from UCLA. It's true that he now makes his way as a public intellectual, and so of course he generally isn't operating to the standard you'd expect from proper academics working in universities. However if you listen to his conversations with his better guests you can clearly detect a HIGH level of philosophical training. Harris has a talent for teasing out the logic behind complicated ideas and presenting it in a simple and accessible way. Only true pseuds mistake this guy for a pseud.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:46:44 2018 No.11036844 >>11036840 >No. He has an MA in philosophy from Stanford and a PhD in Cognitive Neuroscience from UCLA. >he doesn't know the actual story

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:50:19 2018 No.11036856 >>11036800 There was no debate between Harris and Chomsky at all. Harris tried to have a debate, but Chomsky responded like an angry old man and the conversation broke down before a debate could begin.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:53:07 2018 No.11036870 >>11036856 >Chomsky responded like an angry old man like an intelligent old man

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:53:17 2018 No.11036871 >>11036844 Actual story?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:56:40 2018 No.11036889 >>11036870 Chomsky was clearly being angry, dismissive and rude toward Harris for seemingly no reason at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:57:19 2018 No.11036894 >>11036871 Oh god, its fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:58:35 2018 No.11036896 >>11036889 He has a good reason https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt9QCAUPPeY

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 11:59:38 2018 No.11036899 >>11036894 Huh? Never heard that there's a "story" behind

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:03:55 2018 No.11036912

>>11036896
I think what Chomsky said in that video was stupid. I think Chomksy's views on foreign policy in general are stupid. But the solution to disagreement is not to act like a snarky bitch when someone reaches out to you to have a conversation about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:04:04 2018 No.11036913 >>11036784 >>11036757 Both pseuds

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:09:11 2018 No.11036926 >>11036894 WHat the fuck are you jabbering about?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:10:30 2018 No.11036932 >>11036913 >pseud >Chomsky >one of the biggest scientists of the last century on par with Einstein

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:11:07 2018 No.11036935 >>11036932 >one of the biggest scientists of the last century on par with Einstein AHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:13:26 2018 No.11036942 >>11036932 Einstein didn't invent anything and stole all of his work.

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:14:27 2018 No.11036949
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Sam Harris is certainly educated and intelligent, but he's too riddled with personality flaws to be much of interest. Notable among them is his use of hideous "thought experiments" (e.g., a nuclear first strike on the Muslim world) which readily expose his general state of mind as to people he considers not worthy of life (i.e., non-secularists).

His most recent debate with Ezra Klein over his podcast with Charles Murray is an open window to this kind of narrow-mindedness he works under. According to Harris, anyone who digs into the race-IQ discussion beyond a comparison of numbers is effectively a politically-motivated social justice warrior. He constructs a sprawling conspiracy theory whose main claim is that every public person, outside of him and those he invites to his podcasts, is anchored by political considerations which hinder them from delving into "real science" in an "honest way." It's a bit sad how delusional he is, to be honest.

Think of it this way: Sam Harris is a man who has never worked a day in his live, living off his parents and a trust fund, who just so happens to also be the one brave enough to argue precisely those things which negatively affect minorities and the "unintelligent" (e.g., religious peoples, blacks, progressives). Everyone who countervails his narrative is being "intellectually dishonest".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:14:38 2018 No.11036951 >>11036935 >>11036942 spoken like the true pseuds

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:15:52 2018 No.11036958 >>11036951 t. pseud

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:17:21 2018 No.11036960 >>11036958 t. basedbסy

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:19:17 2018 No.11036974 >>11036960 Only a niño de la soya would think Chomsky and Einstein were intelligent.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:25:49 2018 No.11036999 >don't know about the Chomskyan revolution >don't know that compilers in all computers and digital devices they use are run on a Chomsky-defined language True clueless swines right there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:26:32 2018 No.11037001 >>11036757 i liked him in royal tennenbaums

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:35:34 2018 No.11037051 >>11036757 if chomsky is nirvana harris is nickelback

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:37:29 2018 No.11037067 >>11036932 a lot of chomsky's models in opposition to skinner's have since been discredited. chomsky literally invented modern-day popscience "debate".

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:47:32 2018 No.11037121 >>11036871 https://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/2015/01/07/neuroscientist-sam-harris/

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:47:37 2018 No.11037123
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>>11037051
Chomsky is a contrarian old coot who will be forggotten by everyone when he finally snuffs it.

Harris is strong and wise and handsome and young and has the might of the internet on his side. He is building a new epoch for philosophy all by himself.

Disagree and I'll kill myself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:51:05 2018 No.11037144 whats his most kino podcast?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:53:29 2018 No.11037155 >>11037123 disagrees

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:54:18 2018 No.11037158 >>11037144 Russell Brand 's podcast with him as a guest.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:54:59 2018 No.11037162 >>11037067 >a lot of chomsky's models in opposition to skinner's have since been discredited. Chomsky is aware of this. It doesn't discredit Chomskyan linguistics per se. It still is revolutionary in its approach, and will be in this century.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:55:31 2018 No.11037164 >>11037158 really? do they just suck each other off for 2 hours?

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:56:03 2018 No.11037168 >>11037155 u've dun it now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:56:19 2018 No.11037169 >>11037164 the opposite

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:56:29 2018 No.11037170 >>11036932 >Chomsky >scientist Neck yourself

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 12:57:44 2018 No.11037181

>>11037162
not really, the current revolution of the last couple decades has been in the probabilistic models of grammar made possible by the work of men like claude shannon, another man chomsky tried to take down in the public arena in the 50s to further his own career. chomsky did obviously have massive influence on linguistics and computer parsers, of course, but he wasn't a single godlike figure, he was one of many making contributions, and he struggles to acknowledge when his own claims were over-extended.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 13:02:45 2018 No.11037203 >>11037170 No, you first, so you get the scientific world rid of pervasive gnat.

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