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Its like a 1200 page diss track. This bad motherfucker destroyed the legacy of one of the 'greatest men' of all time. Apologise.

>> No.11032462

I like Napoleon though.

>> No.11032468
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>>11032462
>Liking a loser.

ISHYGDDT.

>> No.11032566

>>11032468
To win or lose is not the point.

>> No.11032664

He cute

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>>11032664
fun fact: Tolstoy was so physically strong that he could do 30 pull-ups without preparation when he was 70 years old

>> No.11033284

>got btfo by redbeard

>> No.11033402

>>11032760
>fact
hmm

>> No.11033411

>>11032566
t. Loser

>> No.11033563

>>11032462
>came from nothing and conquered Europe
>gets called a loser by some virgin faggot on 4chan

>> No.11033791

What is the recommended biography on Napoleon?

>> No.11033811

>>11033402
it's one of better-known sports anecdotes from Tolstoy's life
he was a great athlete

>> No.11033963

>>11032459
Just finished it last night. Yea, it might as well be called "Napoleon is a punk bitch".

So I did an audiobook, how do you guys feel about that? I feel somewhat guilty, because it made it much much easier to get through, but the act of interpreting the content was almost exactly the same, besides interpreting the voice abstractly.

Also, epilogue 2... I mean, he's clearly biased in a lot of ways, and imo trying to find laws that govern history is totally futile. I feel like he hates Napoleon and the people that attribute him with greatness so much that he threw away free will just to spite the notion that Napoleon had some talent.

>> No.11033965

>>11032459
>This bad motherfucker destroyed the legacy of one of the 'greatest men' of all time
He really didn't.
>>11033791
I always shill Frank Mclynn's Napoleon. I've yet to hear anything bad about it

>> No.11035571

>>11033791
Jean-Marie Rouart's Napoleon. I'm not sure it has been translated but if it has, go for it.

>> No.11035588

>>11032760
What would an example of said preparation be? Putting talcum powder on your hands first?

>> No.11036450

>>11033791
Dwyer is interesting.

>> No.11036458

>>11035588
never been in a P.E. class, eh

>> No.11037703

>>11032760
is this, dare i say, literatures biggest chad

>> No.11037869

>>11037703
>an aristocrat with the highest title after the Emperor
>a once-in-a-millennium literary genius, but doesn't care that much at first
>just revels and squanders his youth away
>gets his hands on humanity's greatest books. "Nice stuff."
>decides to outdo them
>soon realizes that Shakespeare stands on his way
>eliminates Shakespeare
>the Christian Churches stand on his way
>eliminates the Christian Churches
>controls his wife with an iron hand
>makes 14 children
>has the physical strength of a mammoth, retains it untill his death

>> No.11038183

>>11032462
in the game of world conquest, you win until you lose. nobody wins really. all told, Napoleon did really well.

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>>11033791
A Life by Andrew Roberts is the only one really. Based on thousands of letters that weren't available before and it's very well written, around 1000 pages.

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>>11032459
I like Tolstoy but at the same time think Napoleon was one of the greatest men to ever live. OP btfo.

>> No.11038284

>>11038276
why he thought that dumb doll dress looked any way other than retarded is beyond me

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>>11038284
It was pretty standard imperial dress. He never really wore it though, he was known for having few clothes and never spending extravagantly. On the battlefield he always wore his officer's dress with his overcoat and hat.

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>>11032459

>expressed in such works as The Kingdom of God Is Within You (1894), were to have a profound impact on such pivotal 20th-century figures as Mohandas Gandhi,[2] and Martin Luther King, Jr

Absolutely disgusting.

>> No.11038513

>>11038373
read his work, not his wikipedia page

>> No.11038548

>>11038513

This, but also: how does one feel disgusted by two political figures who fought for equality and for improving the greater good of oppressed communities without resorting to violence?

If that is disgusting I wonder what is “commendable” to you in human nature.

>> No.11039777

>>11038513
I mean in fairness that statement isn't wrong. Gandhi and Tolstoy wrote letters to each other quite frequently, and a lot of Tolstoy and Gandhi's philosophies overlapped. One could say the same about Tolstoy and MLK Jr.'s worldviews.

>> No.11039802

>>11032468
>Loser
everyone else until he stopped himself

>>11033563
this

>> No.11039862

>>11032760
Muzhiks had to be strong. They had to MacGuyver shelter out of wet grass and mud for half their life in Siberia. The Russian is strong because the weak ones all died. Praise be to the Tsar for having an unprecedented, in its scope and success, 300 year plan to uplift the Russian peasant.

>> No.11039873

>>11039862
>peasants
>Imperial count
lel

>> No.11039916

>>11039873
Self-imposed exile is not any easier just because you weren't sentenced to it. You still have to work hard as shit, otherwise I'd say fuck the whole shit and just walk into the woods and stay there. I bet he tilled his own soil by hand, implements are for soft-handed European aristocracy

>> No.11039932

>>11039916
He moved to the countryside and expressed his admiration for peasantry for a single reason - his well-calculated intention to become the №1 writer in the world. Until his death he remained a sly, imposing aristocrat underneath the primitivist exterior.

>> No.11041576

>>11032760
George Bernard Shaw was also such a physical specimen. Died after falling out of an apple tree (picking apples) at 95!

>> No.11041582

>>11032459
Napoleon himself destroyed what would have been his far more apparent legacy had he not undertaken the Russia campaign. If not for this no 100 days, no Waterloo. As to why he did this? That's what the novel fully explicates, and the treatment's just.

>> No.11041585

>tfw Russian and have never read Tolstoy
I'm a pleb

>> No.11041657

>>11041585
Chin up, dood. There's time enough- begin today. He's incredibly readable, not at all difficult.

>> No.11041687

>>11033791
Will Durant - The Age of Napoleon