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Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:22:53 2018 No.11030286 [Reply] [Original]

Itt: authors only contrarians dislike

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:24:07 2018 No.11030289 File: 56 KB, 505x677, 23458f08cbfc88dc2d04f67ced6438e6--jesus-christ-images-jésus-christ.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11030286

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:37:52 2018 No.11030337 >>11030286 I feel like Edgar Allan Poe is due for a renaissance of appreciation from hipsters and "young readers" who identify with his bleak perspective on the world.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:39:12 2018 No.11030341 File: 9 KB, 236x228, 22bb56e29fcbfeb8f0a1576bc20155df--ratatat-kurt-vonnegut.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:40:17 2018 No.11030345 >>11030337 >implying he ever went out of style

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:40:47 2018 No.11030349 >>11030337 I like that he apparently had a sense of humor about it. Some of his stories were apparently self parody, which shows more self awareness than 90% of authors.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:42:17 2018 No.11030353

>>11030337
>>11030345
he's been going in and out of style with (american) academics pretty much since his lifetime
he confuses the pseuds because he is one of those writers who you can read at 11 and think 'holy shit this guy is great' and also when you are in your thirties and think 'holy shit, this guy is great'

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:42:43 2018 No.11030356 >>11030345 Fair enough. I just rarely hear him mentioned in any context other than The Raven anymore.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:44:38 2018 No.11030360

>>11030337
this has already happened in the way that late stage capitalism has allowed for it. His work has been re-purposed by the publishing industry under the collective nom de plum "Lemony Snicket" so that children and susceptible adults can enjoy Poe without having to read someone old and dry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:48:49 2018 No.11030384 >>11030360 You're saying Lemony Snicket is the modern Poe?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:51:18 2018 No.11030396 >>11030384 I'm saying Tupac is still alive. I thought I was very clear on that.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:51:44 2018 No.11030401 >>11030384 the repackaged edition with Baudelaire

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:52:43 2018 No.11030407 File: 31 KB, 275x183, dosto.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11030286

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:52:43 2018 No.11030408 >>11030396 But you sounded so bitter while describing a not-that-terrible situation. (btw I used to believe in the seven-day theory. It was my first conspiracy theory).

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:56:37 2018 No.11030422 File: 25 KB, 220x270, 96592A96-8EE9-4F7D-931E-BA978011CA6E.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 01:04:11 2018 No.11030456

>>11030407
Idk man, there are valid reasons to be completely ambivalent towards Dosto.
>>11030422
His creative interpretation of the world was unsophisticated but interesting. Valid reasons for ambivalence.
>>11030286
Impossible to dislike and is perfect in the right mood but there is no reason to read Poe ardently or even seriously in general.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:13:28 2018 No.11030800 Faulkner

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 03:21:42 2018 No.11030812

>>11030422
plenty of reasons to dislike. interesting weirdo but a barely competent writer, deserved to be obscure but became famous after death because of a small but obnoxiously vocal following. he's reddit before reddit as he accidentally originated nerd fandom and fanfiction.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:11:59 2018 No.11032114 File: 121 KB, 810x1050, william-shakespeare-life-history.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] obv

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:15:12 2018 No.11032130 >>11030356 >he didn’t go to American high school

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:16:09 2018 No.11032137 >>11030286 Calvino Who the fuck dislikes Calvino

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:17:08 2018 No.11032145 >dude like darkness n shit lol everything is so dark and gloomy bro like wtf haha fucking boring, sleep inducing shit that only edgy teenagers enjoy

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:20:39 2018 No.11032157 >>11032137 Is it even possible?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:20:42 2018 No.11032158 >>11032130 Even many American high schools don't go that deeply into him. The only thing of his that we read for class was the Cask of Amontillado.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:22:44 2018 No.11032162
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>those two stories where he just described a fucking garden and the house in it
>kangz wuz deist n scientific n republican n sheeeit befora tha white man stole our civilization
>but we ain't got pillz tho
>NIGGERS BTFO

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:27:19 2018 No.11032178 >>11032162 >"Yes, massa, need'nt hollo at poor nigger dat style" kino

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:42:18 2018 No.11032228

>>11030286
He's influential, sure, but at this point the irony is always predictable and the prose isn't anything special. He has some good stories and some bad ones. "The Cask of Amontillado" is awful. Two faceless characters, not much atmosphere, and a really obvious ending.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 12:54:09 2018 No.11032268 Socrates

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:18:11 2018 No.11032352 >>11030341 This. And Rowling.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:21:08 2018 No.11032364 >>11030800 >my father is a fish > this is deep Faulkner BTFO

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:21:24 2018 No.11032365 his stories are hilarious, I couldn't stop laughing when reading that detective story where the old lady was murdered by a baboon on the run

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:22:40 2018 No.11032373 >>11032365 >literally invented the modern detective story Is there anything Poe can't do?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:35:35 2018 No.11032408 >>11030812 This is why posted him. Contrarians hate him because of his fans. Reasonable people realize he’s a pulp genre fiction author that didn’t have a whole lot of skill that still managed to write some interesting and influential stories.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:38:13 2018 No.11032418 >>11032373 Be raised by his parents

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:55:32 2018 No.11032477 >>11030286 nobody likes poe u mong >>11032137 wow. very on point.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 13:57:21 2018 No.11032481 >>11032365 the killa was a gorilla lol so randum

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:01:09 2018 No.11032492 File: 45 KB, 400x400, 1492469022741.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11032481 >brainlet can't even deduce when a murder has been committed by an orangutan

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:06:46 2018 No.11032514 Jesus Christ

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:07:40 2018 No.11032517

I do love Poe but I reckon that he's good at writing stories of the fantastic and is a bit shoddy at everything else. 'The Murders in the Rue Morgue' might have been one of the earliest detective stories, but it's just too fucking laughable to be taken seriously. Memorable, sure, but not what Poe is good at.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:10:04 2018 No.11032527 >>11030286 FERNANDO PESSOA

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:10:26 2018 No.11032528 >>11032517 I agree that it's pretty weak in a modern context, but it was literally the first deductive reasoning detective story, and it's hard to imagine what that would have been like in a world before Sherlock and Poirot.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:26:50 2018 No.11032798 >>11032517 >not what Poe is good at try reading some of his satires and you'll realize how low he can really go

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:28:01 2018 No.11032801 File: 63 KB, 375x455, 1457284101948.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11032798 >the 1002nd tale of scheherezade

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:30:01 2018 No.11032810 >>11030360 >Late Stage Capitalism

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:32:26 2018 No.11032822 File: 191 KB, 392x492, SartreLarger.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11030286 Yeah

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:39:58 2018 No.11032838 File: 151 KB, 698x698, 1520328826099.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11032801 >the 1002nd tale of scheherezade

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:44:36 2018 No.11032850 File: 171 KB, 526x599, Freud.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11030286 The obvious one.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:53:40 2018 No.11032875 Boar Haze.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 15:58:52 2018 No.11032902 >>11032850 >They got cured bro, trust me.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:21:06 2018 No.11032985 File: 35 KB, 640x425, tolstoy attack.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] esp. the Death of Ivan Ilyich

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:42:11 2018 No.11033084 >>11032364 >My mother is a fish it was a child who said it in reference to his mothers coffin plunging into a stream. It never claimed to be deep, its simply one thought a child had in the circumstance he found himself in.

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 17:35:42 2018 No.11033272

>>11030353
>he is one of those writers who you can read at 11 and think 'holy shit this guy is great' and also when you are in your thirties and think 'holy shit, this guy is great'

Pretty much my exact experience, give or take a few years.
Balloon Hoax was probably the world's first international troll.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 18:40:13 2018 No.11033505 >>11032527 poser poet. And I'm from Portugal.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 20:21:44 2018 No.11033867 >>11030456 >Idk man, there are valid reasons to be completely ambivalent towards Dosto There are reasons to be ambivalent towards some of his books but disliking him generally is completely indefensible

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 20:45:33 2018 No.11033971 >>11032352 >this Ok >And Rowling Hmmm

Anonymous Sat Apr 21 02:29:35 2018 No.11035246
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>>11030422
I have a big book of his short stories which I enjoy, but they're all pretty similar and become dull after reading a couple. It's understandable why someone could dislike him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 02:56:54 2018 No.11035366 >>11030337 Poe>Decadence>Catholic Reactionarism>Fascism

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 03:05:41 2018 No.11035401 >>11032517 The Purloined Letter is great tho.

>>	Anonymous Sat Apr 21 03:08:01 2018 No.11035415 >>11035246 >the only woman he ever had sex with was a jewess

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