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Took me 4 hours to go to sleep last night because I started freaking out about me ding relatively soon (in the scope of the universe).

>> No.11027671

The end of the Trial of Socrates was pretty good

>> No.11027686

>>11027666
Why the fear of ding?

>> No.11027802
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11027802

Anything to do with reincarnation. Death isn't frightening when you realize that reincarnation is real; you've lived and died many times before, and once you die in this life you will be born into a new one.

You don't necessarily need to read Buddhist texts or anything religious, try Children Who Have Lived Before which is a scientific investigation into reincarnation. There is a lot of evidence for it and it makes a lot of sense. Jesus even spoke about reincarnation, which is denied by the church because they would rather people believe they have one life and to fear death - research this.

Once you've come to an understanding of reincarnation you'll stop worrying about death and start worrying about being reborn into the same life over and over - something you can avoid by living your current life to the full and seeking knowledge and enlightenment to progress your soul.

>> No.11027818

death isn't frightening when you're not a self-obsessed faggot

>> No.11027835

>>11027671
This is what I was gonna say

>> No.11027841

You can only sense time passing as a living being. So why shouldnt we be alive again right after death, even if it takes trillions of years?

>> No.11027891

seneca

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11027906

Couple tabs of lsd should do it.

>> No.11027914

>>11027802

okay, let's assume reincarnation is the true path

the soul or 'self' only possess, we can't even rightly judge what qualities it possesses other than its esoteric property of existence

the new body you're given won't remember anything from the past life, you won't know anything you've learned, you won't know anyone from your previous life, you won't know where they are

that's terrifying as well to me

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>> No.11027946

>>11027914
awww how precious

>> No.11027951

>>11027802
>just brainwash yourself into some stupid crap that no one with any understanding of high school biology and physics will believe
:^)

>> No.11027976

>>11027951
So are we just tricked into consciousness? If we were tricked once - why not again? Once you're dead you have infinite time.

>> No.11027984

>>11027951
>He thinks bio and physics are domains where questions of the subjective experience can be meaningfully asked.
Yikes.

>> No.11027991

What happens to "my" point of view, here and now, made up of all of the patterns of electrical impulses in my brain giving way to memories, upon death in a universe that is infinite where another "I" can exist with the same patterns?

>> No.11028030

The only reason to fear death is if you believe in eternal damnation of your sinful soul.
And if this is the case, repent and ask forgiveness from God and lead a virtuous life.

>> No.11028042

>>11028030
>The only reason to fear death is if you believe in eternal damnation of your sinful soul.

No. The real reason to fear death is in the case that your consciousness ceases to exist, because you will never feel anything ever again. No relief, that's dependent on life. Nothing. Gone.

>> No.11028045

>>11027802
When did reincarnation start? Where do the souls come from? What evidence is there? What remains of my past life - memories? How long will this process last?

>> No.11028046

>>11027666
>>11028042
"Death does not concern us".

>> No.11028053

>>11028030

I'd rather exist in a state of pure torment forever in hell than not exist at all.

I know that sounds ridiculous to you, but sheer nothingness is brutal beyond belief.

>> No.11028071

>>11027914
This. Reincarnation is shit.

>> No.11028073

>>11027984
>subjective

hello redd...it ;0

>> No.11028074

>>11027666
Honestly there's nothing.
I used this >>11028046 as a mantra but really it's no different than sticking fingers in your ears and going 'lalalala'. The prospect of dying is terrifying. Loss is terrifying. Yes, when it happens 'it won't concern me' but THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT.
>>11027841
Could be kind of oddly comforting, same as other quasi-religious thoughts on cheating death, BUT who's to say it'd still be me? Sure, I'll take it as the next best thing but I want uninterruoted consciousness - the need for sleep is a bane already and death is the abyss.

>> No.11028075

>>11027914
>the new body you're given won't remember anything from the past life, you won't know anything you've learned, you won't know anyone from your previous life, you won't know where they are
Take LSD, you can have this experience every couple of weeks if you like it

>> No.11028081

>>11028053
having experienced both I can tell you nothingness is by far the more preferable

>> No.11028091

>>11028074
your problem is that your head is in your ass and you are going 'licklicklick'

>> No.11028130

>>11027666
The world would be a better place if people like you died. I mean it.
Death anxious people are a burden on humanity. Transhumanism will be claimed by the weak and scared.

>> No.11028143

>>11028130
We evolved to think, stop whining about people who think. Transhumanism is a false promise to people who somehow think a consciousness dependent on biological complexities can survive and thrive in the same way inside of something nonbiological.

>> No.11028148

>>11027666
Being and Time - Heidegger

>> No.11028152

>>11027976
>Once you're dead you have infinite time.

You have no time left you mean.

>> No.11028166

>>11027914
>the new body you're given won't remember anything from the past life, you won't know anything you've learned, you won't know anyone from your previous life, you won't know where they are

The thinking is that your soul makes an informed decision as to what life it is born into - it is attracted to a certain time, a certain area, certain parents - based on your karma and what you need to learn. You are presented with the opportunities to grow and develop your soul during this particular life. For example, if you spent a lifetime as a drug addict who never realized the hurt they caused their love ones, being reborn as a child of drug addicts may be the perfect opportunity to learn this. Once the soul learns and progresses, they are born into different situations depending on what the next lesson needs to be - if they don't learn, they are born into similar lives until they do learn. You might not consciously remember the experiences you had in previous lives, but your soul will be shaped by them - to continue my crude example, if the soul learns the harm caused by drug addictions, they may then be able leave that behind and not be born into another life that has 'drug addiction' as a theme - or maybe they are born as a person who is born with an inner desire to actively help drug addicts recover.

So yes, souls do remember, just not in the way you, from the point of view of one life, conceptualize remembering.

If you have ever fallen in love at first site, or met someone who you instantly clicked with and went on to become fast friends with, or felt somehow in-debited to someone you had never met before in your life, or been repulsed by someone you've just met for no discernible reason - these are all, the theory goes, past life connections. You have had past lives with these souls. You have a 'soul family', that is a group of souls that you reincarnate with again and again. Maybe your best friend was once your mother, or your brother, or your niece or your lover.
The saying goes that if you can't manage to hold a conversation with someone for more than a few minutes, they are someone who you have no past life connection with.

So yes, you will know people from your previous lives, and often they are close to you, or you will come across them.

You can dismiss this all as bullshit if you want, but I only believe this because I've done a ton of reading on and around the subject, I've spoken to many different people of varying beliefs who all share common knowledge and after many years of research it's a theory that feels right. I encourage anyone to just research and think on the topic before dismissing it.

We are all shards of One soul, and we all help each other to experience the universe in it's entirety. There is very little that can be learned in just one lifetime, as one particular human being. Our souls are eternal and have had and will have many incarnations before we return to the source.

>> No.11028169

>>11028143
How is being scared thinking? It's the opposite. An emotional reaction. Literally the opposite of thinking.

>> No.11028173

>>11028166
typical american self obsessed faggotry

>> No.11028191

>>11028169
Being death anxious is pondering it based on observations. You can't be truly anxious about death without really thinking about it. We evolved with the capacity to think about contradictory things in complex ways like this, so you shouldn't be whining about people doing so.

>> No.11028198

>>11027666
>666
This thread is going places

>> No.11028203

>>11027914
>the new body you're given won't remember anything from the past life, you won't know anything you've learned
[citation needed]

>> No.11028222

>>11028166
This is very comforting but also super-new agey.
No religion has ever supported this.

>> No.11028225

>>11028166
Just to add: often times something terrible happens to you and you think 'but why? what did I do to deserve this?'

the theory is that an action in a previous existence caused this situation in a current life. you don't need to consciously know what it was that brought about your lesson - you just need to learn it.
for anyone scientifically minded, it's simple cause and effect

it's actually better that you don't remember what you did in a previous life, in order to genuinely learn your lessons in the next
a soul incarnating as an innocent child and being subjected to the damage caused by drug addicts will have a very profound and valuable experience within the scope of that lifetime, unblemished by the experience of being a drug addict themselves. only the soul will reconcile the two experiences.

>> No.11028226

>>11027991
Please respond

>> No.11028228

>>11028225
>you think 'but why? what did I do to deserve this?'

you think that if you're a self-obsessed american faggot

>> No.11028242

>>11028173
>>11028228
I'm pretty sure I've seen you on another board. You don't really have any substance or arguments to offer in regards to anything, so you don't deserve to be taken seriously.

>> No.11028243

>>11027802
When I die I kind of just want to be dead desu.

>> No.11028244

>>11028166
>You have a 'soul family'
This was my favorite part of Lost

>> No.11028248

>>11028243
I don't believe that anybody actually believes this. It's just this illusion of relief and rest people have because they associate death with sleep, when in reality you have to be alive in order to feel relief or rest.

>> No.11028249

>>11028242
Oh gee thanks for informing me, wouldn't have known your special opinion without that

>> No.11028255

>>11028173
I'm not american, I'm irish

>>11028222
new age is superficial bullshit, and doesn't deal with any of these beliefs

and just because 'no religion' has officially supported these beliefs doesn't mean they are invalid. All the major prophets transcended their religions - Jesus was a Jew, Mohammad was a pagan, Gautama was a Hindu.

Don't look for organised religion to feed you the truth. go out and talk to people, research, read, and find the truth - or the closest thing you can find for the truth, whatever you can find that makes sense to you in this lifetime.

I don't expect you to take everything I have said as fact - just as some ideas to consider and research

>> No.11028270

>>11028222
The last part reminds me of Vedanta, or Emerson's Over Soul.

Not exactly New Agey.

>> No.11028277

>>11028248
The point of reincarnation isn't to be reborn forever, though. It's to just be liberated from the cycle. I just want to skip to that part.

>> No.11028280

>>11028255
>I'm not american, I'm irish

>>11028270
>Vedanta, or Emerson's Over Soul.
>not exactly new agey

The absolute state of /lit/ in 2018

>> No.11028297

>>11028277
>I just want to skip to that part.

That's like saying "I just want to graduate with my college degree" when you haven't yet completed your first year of nursery. You've got a lot to learn yet, and you have to take it one life at a time.

The more you resent living the slower it will go.

>> No.11028307

>>11028297
I gotta say dude, reading this is like reading the sayings of Socrates or Confucious. Keep this up man I am getting my mind blown

>> No.11028313

>>11028166

This explanation makes a lot of sense. I have never understood the atheist idea that "when we're dead we're gone forever" bullshit. How do you not live in a state of absolute terror thinking about the idea of permanent negation. As >>11028053 said, even torment > nothingness

Furthermore, if life was literally you're born, you suffer and you perish in a state of supreme agony from cancer or dementia, continuing to procreate as a society would be theoretically immoral and imperfect: you're creating a human being whose only purpose is to decay.

>> No.11028319

>>11028313
utilitarian retard

>> No.11028327

>unironically wanting to be alive
>in 2018
for what purpose?

>> No.11028329
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Death isn’t terrifying
To fear something is to have a shred of hope of escaping it, only for that hope to be ripped away in a single moment. Fear is the looming uncertainty of the undesired fate
Death however, as as inescapable as gravity. All one can do is scream and shout at the passage of time, for when there is no longer fear, all that remains is hate. This hate is one that even the fires of hell cannot compare to, this very hate is the driving force of all men. The desire to create and leave at least a sliver of evidence of your existence, the progression of science in the attempt to overcome death, the instinctual desire to plant your seed in order to preserve your genetic code, all of these acts are done in defiance of death. But eventually, our time on this planet concludes; whether we enter a higher plane of existence, enter a new body and develop a new consciousness, or fade into the void. When we expire, our only hope is that our rebellion meant something.
> the stranger is a good book

>> No.11028340

>>11028297
Yeah, it kind of sucks. I probably just added like five lives to this seemingly endless physical suffering but why quit when you're behind, I guess.

>> No.11028348

>>11028313
>How do you not live in a state of absolute terror thinking about the idea of permanent negation.
Why are you so terrified to not exist? Did you suffer much prior to being born?

>> No.11028349

>>11028327
As a state of permanent negation is the ultimate suffering. Only a fool or one ignorant to the truth of reincarnation would wish for it. It is an established truth amongst the enlightened of the world that the worst torture possible, even if for eternity, is still far more enjoyable to the soul than to cease existing.

I for one shudder at the thought of my demise, and I am surprised that many here do not value themselves to the same standard as I. The purpose of our lives, after all, is to achieve unity with the One as an individual. I can achieve that. I will reincarnate and improve through each life until I achieve that and I become the One.

You can remain wishing for negation and be blissful in your ignorance to the true nightmare that is negation, while I become a better, stronger version of myself with each day and each life.

I hope I have inspired you to be a better version of you.

>> No.11028353

>>11028348
see >>11028349

>> No.11028354

>>11028349
You haven't inspired me because you didn't present at argument, you just asserted that to cease existing is the worst thing imaginable. _Why_ is it such a nightmare?

>> No.11028365

>>11027666
Epictetus' handbook; Cicero, De Finibus I.ix-xxi

>> No.11028377

>>11028148
This. Death is something that cannot be in your presence. Death is not something empirical, you don't experience it. Death is something individual, you can't pass it onto anybody else. Death is a secret.

>> No.11028379

>>11028313
>I have never understood the atheist idea that "when we're dead we're gone forever" bullshit

The idea is that the brain and its connection to an organic body is the reason for everything that makes up what we are and what we feel, so the death of that means the death of us. It is terrifying, but most people don't sit in darkness for a long enough time to really ruminate on exactly how that feels to a thinking being, hence "it's not so bad you're just not existing lol get over it".

This is the only thing that stops me from believing in an afterlife. The only solutions I can think of are that the brain merely acts to connect to more abstract memories and whatnot (and what then would that even mean based on what we know about physics?), or my poor understanding of an infinite universe where another "you" with the exact configuration of brain activity can exist. And even with that latter idea, I don't know how your point of view factors into it. Would it somehow shift to that other "you" when you die? How would you ever exist in two points of view at the same time when you're only aware of one of them?

>> No.11028383

>>11028327
Because there's no reason to die. You don't feel relief, you don't feel anything. You like things right? Then there's no reason for you to die and stop experiencing anything. This romanticization of death just comes from this illusion that it'll give you relief, when your dead brain won't let you feel anything let alone relief. You know what gives you true relief? Being alive and getting over whatever is causing you to want out.

>> No.11028386

>>11028349
>It is an established truth amongst the enlightened of the world that the worst torture possible, even if for eternity, is still far more enjoyable to the soul than to cease existing.

this is true. I once asked an old spiritual man what happens to those corrupt, evil souls and he told me that the fate of their souls is total oblivion

>> No.11028396

>>11028383
People don't want "relief", they want to stop suffering, and if you're not experiencing anything you're not suffering.

>> No.11028401

>>11028396
Doesn't matter, you're not experiencing anything, which is a stupid voluntary decision in a life where you certainly experience good things, even if other experiences make you focus on them less.

>> No.11028407

>>11028396
>>11028401
And you DO want relief. Freedom from suffering is relief, and you unconsciously want death because of its finality and how that unconsciously suggests to you a resting state.

>> No.11028410

>>11027666
>denies eternal life
>devil digits

every time

>> No.11028443

>>11027802
>scientific investigation into reincarnation
>lot of evidence
>it makes a lot of sense
the classic fucking retard template. Set reincarnation to literally any whimsical horseshit

>> No.11028447

>>11028386
Ceasing to exist is better than suffering though.
Evil souls SHOULD suffer

>> No.11028511

>>11028447
>Evil souls SHOULD suffer
And they do, because they are evil.

Do you think the people that rape and murder children or commit mass genocide are happy? No. They are haunted, they don't sleep well, they take copious amounts of drugs to get through life, they are tortured and twisted and delusional and incapable of love.

The gluttonous never appreciate their food, and they are never sated. The lustful chase horror after horror, and are never satisfied. The envious always want what others have, and are never secure in themselves. Life to the slothful is death. Nothing is ever enough for the avaricious. You get the picture.

The idea of Satan as both the 'ruler' of hell and (in Dante's vision) being imprisoned at the very bottom of it is a depiction of this idea.

These souls become grosser and grosser until eventually they are obliterated. The rest of rise up, until we rejoin each other.

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Epicurus.

>> No.11028517

>>11028511
White utilitarian teenagers should be banned

>> No.11028527
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One thing we can discern as fact is that souls or 'the self' is unique. That is its defining trait. So, then, our bodies on the other hand aren't really unique, and can and will be replicated, given time. The genetic code, not the memories built up from a lifetime of experience.

So then, it brings me to my internal question of: If souls are truly unique, what purpose is there in the creation of a soul, only for it to remain int he world for a few decades before being effectively extinguished, as we know it? What use is there in that?

I'm trying to think of it from a pragmatic perspective. From an evolutionary perspective, is uniqueness something that's highly valuable? Or is it rather reliability, and the replication of such a trait expressing reliability. Survival mechanism is something built into every living being, it's primary purpose is to sustain itself until more of its 'kind' can be made. But why? If we're all doomed, why make more of ourselves in the first place?

>> No.11028568

>>11028074
>but really it's no different than sticking fingers in your ears and going 'lalalala'.
It isn't for me though, stop projecting you weak faggot. I accept that death is a part of life, and that without death I would never have been able to be alive, and that my death will mean that others will be able to become alive. You know that story about Saramago's grandad? When he knew he was about to die, He went into the yard of his house, where there were a few trees, fig trees, olive trees. And he went one by one, embracing the trees and crying, saying good-bye to them because he knew he would not return. But nevertheless he was happy that life would go on. That's how I feel now, although I used to feel exactly like this guy >>11028053 (I remember thinking something very similiar, that I'd rather spend the rest of eternity stuck on a cross than dying).

>> No.11028571

>>11028527
Each shit out of my ass is special in its own way

>> No.11028577

>>11027666
Interesting thread. You guys hit all the points I've been thinking about:
>Eternal suffering better than eternal annihilation
That one is tough. At least you are aware of things. You haven't gone into the unknown void. Even if you only eat one meal a day and push a boulder up a hill, you know you have that. Death is an unknown.
It's a leap of faith.
"How can a man die better than facing fearful odds for the ashes of his fathers and the temples of his gods".
"Now I pass on into paradise"- Jacob Boehme.

I think when the time comes anon you won't be afraid. You'll just let go.

>> No.11028584

Reddit as fuck thread which should have been pruned hours ago.

>> No.11028588

>>11028577
>I think when the time comes anon you won't be afraid. You'll just let go.

depends on how many chemicals my body pumps into my brain just before the time of death

>> No.11028630

>>11028584
Go fuck yourself, newfag

>> No.11028649

>>11028630
Watch out, this guy has been shitposting on a website for a relatively long time. Truly he is the superior being.

Fuck off. This thread is barely discussing literature, and is filled with teenagers talking out of their asses acting like they're worth a shit.

>> No.11028658

>>11028649
Anybody calling anything "reddit" in 2018 does not deserve to be taken seriously. I reiterate, fuck off newfag.

>> No.11028673

>>11028658
Gee thanks for letting me in on the details of 4chaniquette oh wise oldfaggot

>> No.11028710

>>11028577
>I think when the time comes anon you won't be afraid. You'll just let go.

This is what I think too.

>> No.11028714

>>11028710
:)

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Whatever spirituality I have is vague, I don't think the soul/mind/self is that unique, of course everyone shaped by an ever changing culture but I don't think there are any exlusive attributes to any one person that won't re-emerge through history's past/future. Its mainly intuition but for me the sheer volume and deep sameness you can find between yourself and another has gone from being disturbing to weirdly sublime - and it feeds into my stance on Death: life feels special but casual and while it may be a 'defense mechanism' Death as an end to experience doesn't feel right, I can't believe existence/experience begins and ends with me.

>> No.11028725

>>11028717
Thanks for sharing

>> No.11028759

>>11028527

That last part is kind of the huge question: so if we’re in this endless loop of birth and rebirth, what is the End State? What if the end state is humanity solves the mystery of immortality and we finally achieve our “final permanent form?”

>> No.11028774

>>11028759
Godhood is the last stage

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>>11028717
Ah I made a mistake
*sheer volume of living people + deep sameness with another

>> No.11028831

>>11027906
You misspelled 5 dried grams of cubensis mushrooms alone in a dark room after 6+ hours of fasting

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>>11027666
The World as Will and Representation

>> No.11029239

>>11027666
>666
Is this saying something?
How would you want to die? Where would you want to die? What would you want the death experience to be like?
These probably sound like strange questions, but wouldn't the best death be a moment of peace? Warrior societies often revere the God of War as a God of Death, and the best moment for them to die is as a hero in war. Such a myth removes all fear of death because death becomes a moment of truth, of becoming.
The strange thing here is that one who fears death is often afraid of life, of this world. In true becoming you are one with the eternal, with God - and, in a sense, you triumph over death. In Christian terms, are you not tempted by death and being pulled from this world? Should you not instead accept the eternal and abandon Sin?
And to ask yet another question, if there is a God of Death that you believe in what would you say to him at your death? What is your song? What is the thread of your life that will be sewn back into the cosmos?
https://youtu.be/dL1aVeY1rWg
https://youtu.be/YWE9LDIuA0M

>> No.11029324

>people unironically insisting that eternal torture is better than cessation
You'd turn around quickly if you experienced actual torment.

>> No.11029454

>>11028091
Ridiculous. Have fun dying. I think very highly of myself and of my continued observance of my world, of course cretins like you take solace in the fact that one day you'll stop thinking. I don't want a world where death is impossible, people like you should always be able to remove themselves from it. :)
>>11028568
Same goes for you. Tell me about how happy you'll be once it's over. Truly, what a blessing death is! In a perfect world of course everyone would choose death because merely existing is just such a bother, isn't it? Ahh, how comforting it'll be that eternal slumber.

Seriously, how boring can you be? What can one say of the philosophy - no of the psychology at the core of every death apology? Is there a weariness of life? A colossal lack of imagination? I think at its heart it's a complete weakness of will, an utter lack of hate and contempt and thus of love.
You people are bringing up excuses for dying, you're normalizing it.
You're saying death is fine.
This right there should be enough, but it isn't for you and none of what I say will reach you.

>>11028329
This anon here kinda gets it. Death is worse than terrifying. Through death the whole world is tainted. And anything you leave behind will stop existing one day as well.

>> No.11029472

>>11029454
This post is disgustingly reddit.
Ugh I feel unclean.

>> No.11029481

I guess I'll answer the OP. Not quite what you're looking for, but you might find Lincoln in the Bardo interesting.

>> No.11029486

>>11027802
>dude just pretend death doesn’t exist and it’s not scary any more
I remember being 10

>> No.11029530

The Denial of Death
The Tibetan Book of the Dead
The Death of Ivan Ilyich
Siddhartha
Meditations
Enchiridion
Fear and Trembling
The Gay Science
All Gall is Divided
The Bible
The Stranger
Cloud Atlas

>> No.11029558

>>11027666
The first step in getting over the fear of dying is losing your attachment to your sense of self. Once you realize that the premise of "self" is purely illusionary, then you will see there is no need to have fear for it's loss.

>> No.11029561

OP, you're not afraid of death.

It's impossible for existing creatures to fully comprehend non-existence.

What you're really afraid of is not living your life to it's fullest while you are alive.

>> No.11029608

>>11029561
No, you can be afraid of non-existing. It's the greatest unknown, and people are naturally afraid of the unknown. Often not understanding something aids in the fear of that thing. Confrontation of phobias is one of the best way to overcome them, because it leads disillusions you from your misconceptual fear of that thing. When it comes to death, regrets not yet felt definitely can enter into the equation, but death itself is very much a common fear among people. To say otherwise is demonstrably and philosophically wrong (and silly).

>> No.11029622

>>11027666
reminder: you all just don't like pain or the feeling of going crazy. I would imagine the worst part is the feeling of organs failing, and the disintegration of lucid default-awareness. I've had this happen suffering from tremors and mini-siezures while in the grips of a horrible fever as a child, I remember immense neurological pain shooting through my limbs and the loss of continuity in my waking cognition. The elderly are afraid because you lose your soul when you die, and thus you must experience the same violent uprooting of a schizophrenic about to go into a catatonic, likely terminal, state of psychosis. If you can excise this apprehension about the physical pain and the psychological terror of insanity, maybe by doing high doses of psychedelics, or fasting or meditating on walls (hah) you could alleviate your irrational fear of an inevitability.

>> No.11029676
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"All things tangible and visible grew hollow, light, and transparent,—similar to lightsome shadows in the darkness of night;

"for, that great darkness, which holds the whole cosmos, was dispersed neither by the sun or by the moon and the stars, but like an immense black shroud enveloped the earth and, like a mother, embraced it;

"it penetrated all the bodies, iron and stone,—and the particles of the bodies, having lost their ties, grew lonely; and it penetrated into the depth of the particles, and the particles of particles became lonely;

"for that great void, which encircles the cosmos, was not filled by things visible: neither by the sun, nor by the moon and the stars, but reigned unrestrained, penetrating everywhere, severing body from body, particle from particle;

"in the void hollow trees spread hollow roots threatening a fantastic fall; temples, palaces, and horses loomed up and they were hollow; and in the void men moved about restlessly but they were light and hollow like shadows;

"for, Time was no more, and the beginning of all things came near their end: the building was still being built, and builders were still hammering away, and its ruins were already seen and the void in its place; the man was still being born, but already funeral candles were burning at his head, and now they were extinguished, and there was the void in place of the man and of the funeral candles.

"and wrapped by void and darkness the man in despair trembled in the face of the Horror of the Infinite." Lazarus By LEONID ANDREYEV