How is this shit even legal? 10 pages in and it's blatant pedophilia.

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Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:15:27 2018 No.11021906 [Reply] [Original]

How is this shit even legal?
10 pages in and it's blatant pedophilia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:16:14 2018 No.11021911 >how are words on a piece of paper legal

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:16:49 2018 No.11021913 >>11021906 WHO THE FUCK CARES IT'S FICTION THAT'S THE POINT OF THE BOOK ART HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MORALS NOW GO AWAY

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:17:18 2018 No.11021918 >>11021906 >pedophilia is illegal ?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:18:04 2018 No.11021925 >>11021911 >how are spoken words in air legal Get your hate speech of this campus.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:19:20 2018 No.11021931 File: 7 KB, 456x492, canadians_will_go_to_jail_for_saving_this_pic.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:19:29 2018 No.11021933 >>11021925 im more inclined to physical hate

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:21:10 2018 No.11021950 >>11021906 Did the words engorge your yogurt slinger?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:22:26 2018 No.11021958 >>11021906 triggered

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:27:27 2018 No.11021986 >>11021931 Enjoy your v&

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:28:55 2018 No.11021996 >>11021906 Honestly just Google the first amendment obscenity laws and figure it out yourself, retard

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:29:51 2018 No.11021998 >>11021931 could somebody actually be arrested for this?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:30:28 2018 No.11022003 >>11021906 muh children

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:36:43 2018 No.11022032 >>11021998 Yes, if you live in burguer land. I hope you're behind 7 proxies, anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:40:27 2018 No.11022051 File: 121 KB, 200x307, Crimeandpunishmentcover.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906 How is this shit even legal? 10 pages in and it's blatant murder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:42:16 2018 No.11022058 >>11021913 >ART HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH MORALS tell that to my roommate who threw my Polanski blu-rays in the trash, crazy bitch (she reimbursed me, at least)

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:42:53 2018 No.11022061 File: 3.62 MB, 480x427, UDDER_MADNESS.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021925 KEEP YOUR PASTRIES OUT OF THIS CANNED FUDGE!!! KEEP YOUR PASTRIES OUT OF THIS CANNED FUDGE!!!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:44:06 2018 No.11022066 >>11021906 Hey, OP. Hey, psst. OP, hey. Get this. Check this out. HUMBERT HUMBERT IS THE BAD GUY.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:52:45 2018 No.11022103 File: 101 KB, 511x451, 716DEA0D-012F-4819-8809-22488DA4E520.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Freedom of speech That’s why you get to buy and read as many manifestos, special forces training manuals, and anarchist cookbooks as you want

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 13:55:44 2018 No.11022117 >>11022058 If she threw away chinatown you should kill her

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 14:15:45 2018 No.11022193 File: 22 KB, 224x350, death-foretold1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11022051 How is this shit even legal? 1 page in and it's blatant murder.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 14:29:32 2018 No.11022243 How is 4chan even legal? 10 minutes in and it's blatant degeneracy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 14:37:13 2018 No.11022285 the good stuff starts right off the bat? i need to stop putting it off

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 14:39:42 2018 No.11022293 >>11022066 >my gender studies professor said hes the bad guy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 14:55:41 2018 No.11022376 >>11022293 The ending pretty clearly shows he was not the good guy

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 14:57:59 2018 No.11022393 >>11022285 It does actually.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:03:18 2018 No.11022426 >>11022243 degeneracy doesn't exist

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:04:14 2018 No.11022430 >>11022426 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fall_of_the_Western_Roman_Empire

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:04:26 2018 No.11022433 >>11022293 >when you're so triggered by feminists that you end up liking a literal pedo.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:19:28 2018 No.11022537 >>11022430 The WRE fell due to gross mismanagement of settled tribal populations that had been fleeing waves of horde invasions over the last two centuries, not 'degeneracy'

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:22:04 2018 No.11022558 >>11021906 >It's a "no thigh gap cover" episode

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:23:11 2018 No.11022568 >>11021911 Fpbp

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:23:29 2018 No.11022571 >>11022537 the empire degenerated

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:31:32 2018 No.11022621 File: 364 KB, 762x785, 1523573166742.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11022571 I don't think you know what you're talking about Being spread out to thin and losing to barbarians doesn't isn't the same as liking to get a little kinky.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:32:17 2018 No.11022628 >>11022571 t. Cato

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:33:09 2018 No.11022633 >>11022621 they still degenerated though. They were at one time functional and something happened to them to make them dysfunctional

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:33:59 2018 No.11022638 File: 15 KB, 210x355, 760.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906 How is this shit even legal? 1 page in and it's blatant pedophilia.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:35:16 2018 No.11022642 >>11022633 yeah, overconfidence and mismanagement Thats not the same as degeneracy, which is mainly associated with sexual misconduct or at the very least moral decay.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:35:42 2018 No.11022649 >>11022117 Forget it, Jake

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:36:59 2018 No.11022659 >>11022642 If you let barbarians overtake your empire I contend there has necessarily been moral decay. Why did the men just allow that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:40:26 2018 No.11022674 File: 167 KB, 1122x556, 1523015670603.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11022659 Are you fucking stupid? Do you think they just opened the gates and let them walk in? They lost in battle against them you retard.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:41:42 2018 No.11022681 >>11022674 if you lost to barbarians your army is shit, which means your men are shit

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>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:45:54 2018 No.11022709 >>11022702 im right

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 15:56:06 2018 No.11022754 >>11022103 She isn't naked

Anonymous Wed Apr 18 16:25:20 2018 No.11022915

>>11022293
>a guy literally on trial for sexual misconduct against a minor
>marries a woman with the explicit purpose of having sex with her underaged daughter
>author has gone on record saying that HH is a scumbag and he was supposed to be a scumbag from the very beginning
>"he's a bad guy"
>HURR DURR SJWS!
Are you literally retarded? Do you talk like this to actual people?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 17:07:45 2018 No.11023194 >>11022915 Why you so nervous? We just talking

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 17:08:49 2018 No.11023205 File: 21 KB, 620x413, Khabib.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11023194 >>11022915 Forgot the image. Now I look like an idiot

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:04:19 2018 No.11023484 >>11022558 lmao what are you talking about, "no thigh gap cover" it's just a pic of a ceiling, perv

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:05:10 2018 No.11023487 >>11022649 Kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:10:02 2018 No.11023515 >>11021906 Has this cover ever been printed?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:19:02 2018 No.11023550 File: 83 KB, 900x900, 1523267861479.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11022571 DE EMBIRE DEGGENERADED

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:34:46 2018 No.11023618 >>11022915 >author has gone on record saying that HH is a scumbag and he was supposed to be a scumbag from the very beginning Do you have source? Not saying you're wrong, just curious

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:37:23 2018 No.11023627 >>11022915 I don't think anyone can deny HH is villainous. The real question is how much of a villain is Lolita.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:43:28 2018 No.11023662 >>11021906 That's the fucking point of the book asshole

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:53:38 2018 No.11023702 >>11021950 I am proud to say I never popped a bone while reading Lolita, it was something that had worried me going in but I came out on the other side unscathed

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:56:08 2018 No.11023714 >>11023702 cuck

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:56:58 2018 No.11023719 >>11023702 a-ahah yes, s-same

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:04:39 2018 No.11023754 >>11023627 I contend that, while not culpable or really blameable since she is just a little girl with a crush on an older man, Lolita does instigate the beginning of the "relationship" with HH

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:09:06 2018 No.11023775 File: 53 KB, 569x506, IMG_1845.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >when he cums himself when Lolita sits on his lap

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:10:47 2018 No.11023784 i-is it that lewd guys? i might start reading it

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:13:16 2018 No.11023797 >>11022709 Not that guy but you're a retard. Were the Romans degenerates when Hannibal rolled in? They lost battles so they must be by your logic. Idiot.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:24:49 2018 No.11023839 >>11022293 >didn't actually read the book

Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:26:31 2018 No.11023848
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>;and, finally, that the laprobe on the sidewalk (where she had so often pointed out to me with disapproval the crooked green cracks) concealed the mangled remains of Charlotte Humbert who had been knocked down and dragged several feet by the Beale car as she was hurrying across the street to drop three letters in the mailbox, at the corner of Miss Opposite’s lawn.

Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:27:24 2018 No.11023851

>>11021906
It is a bit surprising to me how sexual drawings of young people can be banned in Australia and Britain and other places, but literature describing the same thing is 100% aok. Is it because an image is so much more easily digested? A half second to process vs. 4 hours of reading before encountering? Are lawmakers just plebs with no attention spans?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 19:29:51 2018 No.11023858 >>11023784 Big Bad Vlad uses lewdness as bait to get plebs to keep reading and (hopefully eventually) realize what true literature is. The man is a saint.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:07:37 2018 No.11024903 File: 921 KB, 1000x1333, Lost Girls single volume edition cover.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this legal in your country?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:09:27 2018 No.11024909 >>11023848 That was hilarious.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:16:18 2018 No.11024938 >>11023784 It touches on being lewd If you want blatant lewdness (although not between a man and a child) read Ada

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:17:22 2018 No.11024943 >>11023851 Literature is far more likely to have artistic merit

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:18:58 2018 No.11024947 >>11023784 It is pretty lewd, and I reckon you will shed a tear before the end

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:47:00 2018 No.11025032 File: 49 KB, 471x312, IMG_7734.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906 How is this shit even legal? 10 pages in and it's blatant pedophilia.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 00:56:48 2018 No.11025065 REMINDER: Humbert's story about Annabel was entirely fabricated and he stole it all from Edgar Allen Poe Do not believe his lies

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 01:04:43 2018 No.11025092 >>11022193 its not funny if you make the same joke

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 01:45:35 2018 No.11025219 >>11022649 Bye, Felishia.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 01:51:26 2018 No.11025241

>>11023627
>>11023754
Erm... what? Everyone has moral accountability, and acting on anything when you're >8-10yo is asking for stupid to happen.

HH was a shit, but you can read that kind of thing in a person several hundred km away. You have to be a special kind of deranged or depressed to find solace or hope to find affection from that kind of adolt.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 02:55:38 2018 No.11025389 >>11025032 >10 pages in You're reading from the wrong end

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 03:07:02 2018 No.11025424 File: 1.88 MB, 1214x2048, 9182675313_56a7e03044_k.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] HOW is this shit even legal? I'm 25 pages in and it's blatant pedophilia and gay rape.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 03:08:19 2018 No.11025431 stop reading books google tells you to.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:03:32 2018 No.11025548 File: 136 KB, 823x1542, aa_aoi162.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906 Why does everyone know about this shitty novel but not the work of David Hamilton?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:11:35 2018 No.11025570 >>11025548 What's a good one to start with of his?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:16:36 2018 No.11025585 >>11021906 >how is freedom of expression, a basic human right, legal, especially in the context of a work of literary fiction? you're a cancer

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:27:00 2018 No.11025601
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>>11025570
La Danse is where I started and its still in print. Full book preview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYTbtsjqAB4

I also have Flowers and Venice bought from a used book store, both first editions is great condition for their age. Flowers has great poetry i'll make a full video preview later tonight because no one else has uploaded one.

The Age of Innocence is his best and most well known though. The pics I posted are from that book. Girls at the magical age of puberty accompanied by calssical poetry.

There's a torrent for a huge collection of his if you just want to preview online. Just search david hamilton on whatever torrent site you like. And also watch his best film "Laura". Also Bilitis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3poVRv-Ok-Q

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:33:08 2018 No.11025621
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>>11025601
Forgot the book preview for Venice. I got the first edition, used from 1989 still in great condition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx6qNaiJOpw

And here's a blog that shared another of his books, Dreams of a young girl.

https://firsttimeuser.livejournal.com/45526.html

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:42:17 2018 No.11025629

>go to museum
>the sculptures have nipples
>some of them have MOTHERFUCKING PENISES
>VISIBLE, RIGHT THERE
>!!!!!!
>someone has painted an orgy
>there's a painting of a man killing someone, pretty sure that's illegal, holy shit
>walk out the door
>recite the words of the U.S. national anthem in your head over and over again
>hold back tears
Can't believe this level of degeneracy, the world has gone to the dogs

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:49:05 2018 No.11025643 File: 75 KB, 1584x864, IMG_0027.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025629 We've reached peak levels of Amerimutt Imperialism. Hitler was right when he called America a Jewish nation.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:04:25 2018 No.11025682 File: 254 KB, 823x1852, aa_aoi175.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025621 Reading this poem then thinking how 99.9% of girls these days will never know an innocent marriage makes me both chuckle and despair. Wake me up inside...

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:06:58 2018 No.11025687
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>>11021913
So why is Mein Kampf prohibited in the west? Or lets say, The Protocols? Or the Green book?
Oh its because it doesnt fit with the zionists. But child molestation does. Ammiright mr D. Schneider?

If we are using that logic, make all the books legal.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:13:22 2018 No.11025702 >>11025687 None of the books you listed are prohibited.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:14:13 2018 No.11025707 File: 73 KB, 898x628, ShowImage.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025687 none of those books are prohibited in the west. germany used to ban mein kampf but not anymore. >make all the books legal. okay. they are.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:16:26 2018 No.11025712 >>11022915 Don't forget that he planned on killing his wife too but lucked out.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:23:43 2018 No.11025730 >>11023627 are you fucking serious? victim-blaming much

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:34:47 2018 No.11025754

>>11025702
>>11025707
The scrolls arent, and if you borrow mein kampf in the library (talking europe here) you have to present your ID (along the library card) and your info gets (or at least it used to 5years ago) listed on a "suspect" or "the dude reading non PC books" list. Which for me is even weirder than prohibition.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:35:17 2018 No.11025756 >>11022633 >and something happened to them ye, christianity

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:36:25 2018 No.11025759 >>11022638 *hebephilia

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:59:38 2018 No.11025809

>>11025754
>The scrolls arent,
you mean the protocols? not banned either. i don't know if anyone but neonazis bothers printing copies but you can find them online in a second, nobody takes them down and they're frequently quoted in history books so it's not like any legal impediment to reading them exists.

>if you borrow mein kampf in the library (talking europe here) you have to present your ID (along the library card) and your info gets (or at least it used to 5years ago) listed on a "suspect" or "the dude reading non PC books" list
which country, what institution collects the data and where can i read more about how if at all the data has ever been used? because it sure seems useless for a government to have a list that's 90% historians and 10% angsty teens even if they wanted to track possibly violent extremists. you're not just repeating an urban legend you've heard online, are you?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:06:37 2018 No.11025824 File: 96 KB, 1200x1011, amerimutt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11025754 You sound like an American making up stories about a mystical country of Europe.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:46:47 2018 No.11025946 >>11023702 i get a boner reading philosophy... am i a pervert?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:50:14 2018 No.11025958 >>11022293 becoming a pedophile to own the libs

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 08:57:09 2018 No.11026298

Lolita was my hero.

I was abused as a child. I was never molested, but often made to feel completely powerless, and forced to dance after someone elses’ strings.

I found the book in high school, picked it up because -forbidden-, but I ended up cheering for Dolores.

Her mother dies, her stepfather molests her, she goes through some serious shit.

And she torments her tormentor. He does not get to get away with what he did. She makes him literally pay for her time, turning his control of her around, if only by a little. Finally, she escapes with another guy.

Sure, the other guy probably helped a lot. But she still had actively do things, despite being what others would see as pretty much helpless.

When we last see her, she’s found a younger husband, she’s pregnant, and a housewife. On her way to the American dream(in the 50’s). Sure, they’re not rich, but she’s free. She made it. She got away from the monster. (She deserved to live longer, dammit)

For a previously abused child, that shit was damn inpsirational.

Oh, and Humbert is a dick.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:04:35 2018 No.11026330
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>>11026298
>I was abused as a child. I was never molested, but often made to feel completely powerless, and forced to dance after someone elses’ strings.

It's called being a child. Or a woman ;) Get used to it, honey.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:07:27 2018 No.11026343

>>11026298

Would you be happy to invite your abusers into your house for a chat?

I'm not trolling, but this is part of the complexities of the book that makes it so interesting. Why is Dolores so happy to to have such a good relationship with the people abusing her?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:27:21 2018 No.11026415 >>11026298 Dolores dies while giving birth in the following year, anon.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:35:47 2018 No.11026452

>>11026343
Because he was her stepfather.

There was a publicized case of child abuse years ago where a kid got raped by her father multiple times, after being thrown out by her mother(who raised her). The kid had no contact with her mother, but she did keep in touch with her father.

He raped her, but he still took care of her. He was the parental figure that she had.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:37:13 2018 No.11026459 File: 30 KB, 311x499, 1c56149740c7538adc54156b6a6255f3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906 How is this shit even legal? 3 pages in and it's blatant theft.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:38:11 2018 No.11026466 >>11021906 If you finish the book, and actually read it, you'll realize that it no way promotes pedophilia.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:38:20 2018 No.11026468

>>11026343
Nabokov was just a good psychologist. You may think it’s odd, but for all the horror stories of people who get abused as children then turned out depressed, anxious, dysfunctional for the rest of their lives, there’s also some who... eventually grow up to be completely normal, happy, and even forgive their abuser. It’s called resilience. I think it’s meant to show Dolores’s extreme resilience and kind nature. She’s the heroine of the story.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:40:24 2018 No.11026477 >>11026415 This, when Humbert finally finds her, at which time she's pregnant, you already know that she dies in childbirth. Her life is a great tragedy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:43:31 2018 No.11026496 >>11026468 Good post. Will have to read the book again with Dolores presented as a meditation on Christ and forgiveness. It's like nabokov took the infinitely comfy love of God and perverted it into lust for Lo.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 09:57:57 2018 No.11026536

>>11025687
>>11025702
>>11025707
>>11025754
>>11025809
Daily reminder that 200 years together still has no proper english translation. The book is brilliantly written and points very well argued and all the information thoroughly researched and sourced, yet the book was either completely ignored and or disregarded as ravings of lunatic by (((everyone))), although Solzhenitsyn was one of the greatest writers of 20th century and a Nobel Prize winner "for the ethical force with which he has pursued the indispensable traditions of Russian literature".

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:25:31 2018 No.11026626
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>>11025687
>>11025754
>>11026536
>uhh but why is moin kumpf banned by all the gubments, huh???
it's not
>uhh but why is gubments putting peeps on lists for looking at main camf???
that's made up
>uuh but why all the ((((gubmints))) supress other book about joos tho???
it was published in french and german as well as partially in english and sparked widespread academic debate about the quality of solzhenitsyn's scholarship and sources
>uuh it not matter me still oppressed
sure you are, grug

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:39:24 2018 No.11026675

>>11023702
Girl here, I got aroused.
Is It not the point to have strong mixed feelings? There are men who indulge in those feelings regardless of the consecuences for others(Lolita in this case) and thats wrong, but denying and repressing what one feels isnt pointless?
Also no one ever coments Lolita in regard to Bataille's ideas about breaking the taboo. Maybe someone could spoonfeed us.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 10:53:20 2018 No.11026727
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>>11026626
a) I only posted 1 post in this thread.
b)
>((((gubmints))) supress
I never said that, i stated that it has no proper english translation.
c)
>sparked widespread academic debate
Of course it did, it explores a controversial topic. Although wikipedias few featured "critiques" are hardly good grounds for your suggestive statement, i recommend reading atleast an unofficial translation so you can form your own opinion and weight the presented facts and arguments for what they are worth.
d) Nice ad hominem featuring a spicey meme picture, you surely showed me how retarded caveman i am.

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 11:10:37 2018 No.11026780

>>11023797
Well no, the fact of the matter is they put up armies of hundreds of thousands of Romans during the 2nd PW, where as by the time of the collapse there were so few Romans willing to fight that they resorted to using Foederati and Serfs for the army.
I'd say that it's arguably true that due to a societal decay brought on by centuries Economic, Moral and Religious stagnation ultimately brought the empire to it's knees.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 11:21:02 2018 No.11026828 >>11023797 Why do you feel the need to argue with a muh degeneracy /pol/tard? Shouldn't you move on to bigger and better problems with your life?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 11:26:04 2018 No.11026844 >>11026828 Because eventually someone will get sick of seeing the one sided shitposting and have someone actually come in with an argument, aside from the moron who keeps for falling for obvious bait?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 11:35:23 2018 No.11026903 >>11021906 there are no meaningful passages or themes in any of Nabokov’s books save for Pale Fire. Lolita is fap material and intrigue

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 11:35:32 2018 No.11026908

>>11023627
Lolita is legally unable to consent. She's entirely unvillainous. At her age, crushes are pretty asexual, at least as far as I remember. The idea of sex is appealing because it's "mature" to have sex, and if I remember correctly, then she basically said as much in the book.

Whether she wants to have sex or not, doesn't mitigate the fact that HH would need to reciprocate for it to happen. Children don't have a comprehensive concept of their sexuality. She was "sexual" because she saw other people do it (her camp-mates, her mother, magazines) and HH abused that naivety to get what he wanted out of it. It was his responsibility as an adult to push her away and tell her no. He didn't, and he was entirely aware of the situation.

He knew she was only interested in him because he was an older gentleman, that she was exposed by sexual situations that made her curious, he was aware that she didn't understand the implications of what she was doing, or what consequences they'd have, and he knew that she would regret and be damaged by him having sex with her. He didn't care. He didn't just do it anyway, he spent a long time actively working to groom Lolita and set up the situation where he could abuse her.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 14:12:25 2018 No.11027562 >>11026903 >endless paragraphs of driving around the US countryside It's shit fap material if that's all you think it is.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 14:18:22 2018 No.11027593 File: 620 KB, 574x540, 1508213719410.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ex used to have a giant poster of this book >ask her why one day >tells me she "dated' a guy in his 40s when she was 12 Notice how I said "ex"

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 16:43:50 2018 No.11028219 >>11026477 >tfw i found out she died bad feel

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 16:59:46 2018 No.11028316 >>11025754 None of this is even remotely true

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 17:10:43 2018 No.11028373 File: 71 KB, 645x729, 1520285456701.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11021906 >We should censor unethical literature

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 17:23:43 2018 No.11028424 >>11021906 Read the Milton thing about a hill or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 19:41:08 2018 No.11029049 >>11021906 >it hurts my feelings lets ban it

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 19:43:39 2018 No.11029059 >>11021913 IF ART DIDN'T AFFECT US WE WOULDN'T CONSUME IT NOW GO AWAY

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 19:44:14 2018 No.11029062 >>11021906 is this the top of a cushion or a corner of a room?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 20:03:13 2018 No.11029155 >>11029062 It's an open book with a pink cover facing away from us silly.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 21:57:47 2018 No.11029665 >>11029049 normalfag reactions towards anything pedo is literal SJW tier MUH FEELINGS. Ironic.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 22:45:38 2018 No.11029889 >>11029062 Anon, I...

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 23:21:53 2018 No.11030038 >>11029062 Its pink legs and white shorts

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 23:25:31 2018 No.11030059 >fucking the whore in France is pedophilia she's probably not really 14, and she'd be fucking someone else for the money. was he meant to buy her off her pimp and put her in a convent or something?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 23:28:19 2018 No.11030075 because it's hot as fuck

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 00:01:52 2018 No.11030203 >>11022117 The Tenant is his best work.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 05:21:11 2018 No.11031046 >>11021906 ikr, made me masturbate more than once

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 05:49:39 2018 No.11031090 >>11021906 It's really not that bad

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:41:33 2018 No.11032642 >>11021906 I already called the police, this nabakov guy is going DOWN i HAT E pedos

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 14:44:03 2018 No.11032651 I ONLY LIKE WOMEN MY OWN AGE!! Women younger than me are stupid and I like a girl who is old like me :)

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:38:13 2018 No.11033065 >>11023618 From the wikipedia article >Nabokov himself described Humbert as "a vain and cruel wretch"[15][16] and "a hateful person."[17]

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:44:44 2018 No.11033095 >tfw nabokov is one of the most beautiful english writers but you can't mention him without people thinking you're a hebephile

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:49:48 2018 No.11033112 Is Lolita postmodern?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:56:07 2018 No.11033139 File: 76 KB, 594x395, 1457507203041.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >how is this shit even legal?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 16:59:05 2018 No.11033152 >>11021906 Tfw I can fantasise about anything I want and no one can stop me

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 17:44:44 2018 No.11033305 >>11021911 Books are an expression of the human condition, not just words.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 18:52:32 2018 No.11033540 It's all in the mind of the reader

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 19:06:07 2018 No.11033578 >>11021906 Human laws are a construct my dude Art has no boundries

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 19:07:47 2018 No.11033582 >>11033112 Its pre-modern, technically

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 19:08:35 2018 No.11033586 >>11033582 The fuck did he mean by this?

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 20:19:18 2018 No.11033853 > There are people who refuse to admit to themselves that Humbert was just an expression of Nabokov's obvious pedophilic desire so they can justify defending it lmao

Anonymous Fri Apr 20 20:59:33 2018 No.11034053

>>11033853
>there are people who think its unnatural
Why say it like its a bad thing. Also, pedophilia is liking children under adolesence (about age 10 and under) which is different from Hebephilia (which is 'pubescent' children typucally 11 to 14), and Ephebophilia (14 to 19) which us EXTREMELY natural.
You may not know this but puberty is aquiring sexual maturity.

>>	Anonymous Fri Apr 20 21:01:33 2018 No.11034065 >>11033586 >thinks pedophilia is new and never happened before, ever

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