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[Anonymous No.11007241]

Is Nietzsche's idea of the ubermensch literally just "Just Be Yourself"?

[Anonymous No.11007251]

>>11007241
No you faggot and you clearly don't even understand the context that ubermensch is used in.

[Anonymous No.11007258]

yes

[Anonymous No.11007261]

>>11007241
Think Lebron James and other highly competitive and extremely well trained humans.

[Anonymous No.11007265]

Can God Make A Rock So Big Not Even Him Can Lift It

[Anonymous No.11007266]

>>11007241
I believe he was referring to human beings' misguided concept that we are the pinnacle of evolution. We're really just an evolutionary dead end

[Anonymous No.11007273]

>>11007261
>when the eugenics penetrate the average reading of Nietzsche so thoroughly this post could actually serious
>fucking using a basketball player as an example of physical achievement instead of a weight lifter, body sculptor or even a fencer
>>11007241
No.
>>11007265
The absolute state of medieval argumentation.

[Anonymous No.11007287]

Nietzsche's whole philosophy is about there being no more self to refer to and hence the necessity of having to create one for yourself as if it were art.

[Anonymous No.11007293]

>>11007265
Are there square circles nigga?

[Anonymous No.11007294]

>>11007266
>I believe he was referring to human beings' misguided concept that we are the pinnacle of evolution
How many brainlets actually believe this though

[Anonymous No.11007299]

>>11007273
>weight lifter, body sculptor
these two are useless physically though

[Anonymous No.11007307]

>>11007241
Only if you're capable of actually creating your own system of values, which generally only aristocrats are capable of doing.
If a prole like yourself tried to "just be himself" he would end up doing whatever his pastor/priest/talking head/corporate overlord told him to do.

[Anonymous No.11007310]

>>11007299
>the "bodybuilders are actually weak lol xD" meme

[Anonymous No.11007313]

>>11007241
That's pretty much what it all boils down to when you take away the fancy wording, like a lot of philosophy. all those years all that pussy forgone for "be urself m8" .

[Anonymous No.11007321]

>>11007241
Isn't it more like "overcome yourself"?

[Anonymous No.11007369]

>>11007241
Absolutely not.

The Ubermensch is way beyond you or I and is not "being yourelf". Cause you arent the superman, you are a stepping stone.

Become what thou art and you will live a fufilled life. Not the Superman's but a stepping stone towards that ideal.

Did thou even read Zarathustra?

[Anonymous No.11007386]

>>11007273
Lebron james would literally lead the Earth against an alien invasion and your pale ass would follow

[Anonymous No.11007422]

>>11007241
why don't you read it and find out

[Anonymous No.11007606]

>>11007241
the closest thing in the world to nietzsche's idea of the ubermensch is the United States Marine Corps

[Anonymous No.11007628]

>>11007386
lebron is a bitch just like any NBA player

[Anonymous No.11007633]

>>11007386
You're thinking of Micheal Jordan

[Anonymous No.11007648]

>>11007241
For nietzche the closest thing to the ubermensch were the ancient greeks, especially Odysseus,
he had both muscles and brain

[Anonymous No.11007656]

>>11007648
Nietzsche*

[Anonymous No.11007662]

>>11007606
No

[Anonymous No.11007666]

>>11007606
"no"

[Anonymous No.11007758]

yes you faggot and you clearly understand the context that ubermensch is used in
>>11007273
>implying basketball players aren't the greatest athletic specimens in year current
>literally states bodybuilders & fucking fencers come close to lebron james
the absolute state of the soylent /lit/ nerd

[Anonymous No.11007768]

>>11007662
>>11007666
Nietzsche's idea of the Ubermensch is men who create their own values and seek self-improvement, the Marine Core has its core values of Honor, Courage and Commitment and you have to improve yourself if you want to be promoted to the next rank.

[Anonymous No.11007784]

>>11007768
>create their own values

Exactly, why should the overman care about being a servant to the state.

[Anonymous No.11007797]

>>11007648
No, he saw Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe as the closest thing to the Ubermench. Also people like Montaigne, Julius Caeser, Napoleon.

[Anonymous No.11007808]

>>11007797
and based Cesare Borgia

[Anonymous No.11007865]

>>11007628
Hey, now. What I personally appreciate about professional athletes is that theyre absolutely the best in their fields. There are always better musicians, actors, presidents, etc.

[Anonymous No.11007909]

>>11007768
Thats what they advertise, but in reality you are going to become a government paid hobo.

[Anonymous No.11007922]

>>11007321
It's more like "constantly overcome yourself", the ubermensch is constantly in a state of self-transcendence.

[Anonymous No.11008208]

>>11007310
They can't do anything except lift something in a specific, limited motion. Therefore: physically useless. Further, in other activities this bodybuilding often decreases ability due to it limiting flexibility, speed, and power.