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[Anonymous No.10983442]

What is beauty?

[Anonymous No.10983466]

>>10983442
what are rules?
-OP

[Anonymous No.10983470]

God

[Anonymous No.10983471]

The quality of being deserving of love

[Anonymous No.10983478]

>>10983470
This. It doesn't exist.

[Anonymous No.10983482]

>>10983442
>What is beauty?
Everything people like

[Anonymous No.10983485]

>>10983466
recommend me some literature about beauty, then.

[Anonymous No.10983493]

>>10983485
but that isn't the topic of the thread

[Anonymous No.10983524]

>>10983442
different kinds of beauty exist. using one term is needlessly restrictive and poisons your thinking.

physical beauty consists of an amalgamation of traits that at best help you form rudimentary judgment over who you'd like to direct your carnal, primitive desire to fuck towards so that you can pass on your genes. at worst, it's a carrot that brings suffering, striving, pain, conflict and ultimately enslaves you in a hollow promise of fulfillment.

there's beauty in intellectual pursuits but they have the ability to enslave you too.

the one common characteristic in all kinds of beauty is that it is a tyrant and severely limits and rots man's potential to grow and become something more with the added advantage that it distracts from the maddening pointlessness of just being for being's sake.

[Anonymous No.10983541]

>>10983442
>everyone becomes Oblivion characters in my subconscious

[Anonymous No.10983547]

>>10983442
When artists make redpilled art of God and Meaning instead of postmodern neomarxist cultural femism.

[Anonymous No.10983548]

>>10983524
>physical beauty must be sexual

Bro. Read Plato.

[Anonymous No.10983553]

>>10983442
>everyone becomes Amerigoblins in my subconscious

[Anonymous No.10983558]

>>10983524
the only escape is to rebel. To revel in 'ugliness' even though the concept of ugliness can only exist in juxtaposition to the concept of beauty which is favored historically Live like diogenes and vehemently reject the hollow carrot that you see in physical beauty of others and spooks of modern society. Rebel against the blind, senseless striving programmed into you to attain hollow notions of beauty.

[Anonymous No.10983572]

>>10983548
it's pretty unanimously known that physical beauty is consistently judged across cultures through traits that help you decide who to fuck so that your genes have maximum chance of propagating forward. it's just how we are.

[Anonymous No.10983584]

>>10983442
a notion that we attempt to use in our futile attempt to transcend death.

[Anonymous No.10983611]

>>10983524
>modern aphrodite
>it's a lanky thot cosplaying as Misty

[Anonymous No.10983620]

>>10983558
>>10983524
t. ugly kid who got bullied

I literally cannot interact with someone who's not beautiful. Most ugly people are stupid too. Beauty, intelligence and income are highly correlated. Bad genes are bad all around, the same applies to good genes.

[Anonymous No.10983632]

>>10983620
>t. ugly kid who got bullied

Justifiably, might I add

[Anonymous No.10983645]

>>10983620
t. eugenicist

[Anonymous No.10983709]

In the first place, he must be in love with one particular body, and engender beautiful converse therein; but next he must remark how the beauty attached to this or that body is cognate to that which is attached to any other, and that if he means to ensue beauty in form, it is gross folly not to regard as one and the same the beauty belonging to all; and so, having grasped this truth, he must make himself a lover of all beautiful bodies, and slacken the stress of his feeling for one by contemning it and counting it a trifle. But his next advance will be to set a higher value on the beauty of souls than on that of the body, so that however little the grace that may bloom in any likely soul it shall suffice him for loving and caring, and for bringing forth and soliciting such converse as will tend to the betterment of the young; and that finally he may be constrained to contemplate the beautiful as appearing in our observances and our laws, and to behold it all bound together in kinship and so estimate the body's beauty as a slight affair. From observances he should be led on to the branches of knowledge, that there also he may behold a province of beauty, and by looking thus on beauty in the mass may escape from the mean, meticulous slavery of a single instance, where he must center all his care, like a lackey, upon the beauty of a particular child or man or single observance; and turning rather towards the main ocean of the beautiful may by contemplation of this bring forth in all their splendor many fair fruits of discourse and meditation in a plenteous crop of philosophy; until with the strength and increase there acquired he descries a certain single knowledge connected with a beauty which has yet to be told.
‘When a man has been thus far tutored in the lore of love, passing from view to view of beautiful things, in the right and regular ascent, suddenly he will have revealed to him, as he draws to the close of his dealings in love, a wondrous vision, beautiful in its nature; and this, Socrates, is the final object of all those previous toils. First of all, it is ever-existent and neither comes to be nor perishes, neither waxes nor wanes; next, it is not beautiful in part and in part ugly, nor is it such at such a time and other at another, nor in one respect beautiful and in another ugly, nor so affected by position as to seem beautiful to some and ugly to others. Nor again will our initiate find the beautiful presented to him in the guise of a face or of hands or any other portion of the body, nor as a particular description or piece of knowledge, nor as existing somewhere in another substance, such as an animal or the earth or sky or any other thing; but existing ever in singularity of form independent by itself, while all the multitude of beautiful things partake of it in such wise that, though all of them are coming to be and perishing, it grows neither greater nor less, and is affected by nothing.

[Anonymous No.10983723]

>>10983709
So when a man by the right method of boy-loving ascends from these particulars and begins to descry that beauty, he is almost able to lay hold of the final secret. Such is the right approach or induction to love-matters. Beginning from obvious beauties he must for the sake of that highest beauty be ever climbing aloft, as on the rungs of a ladder, from one to two, and from two to all beautiful bodies; from personal beauty he proceeds to beautiful observances, from observance to beautiful learning, and from learning at last to that particular study which is concerned with the beautiful itself and that alone; so that in the end he comes to know the very essence of beauty. In that state of life above all others, my dear Socrates,’ said the Mantinean woman, ‘a man finds it truly worth while to live, as he contemplates essential beauty. This, when once beheld, will outshine your gold and your vesture, your beautiful boys and striplings, whose aspect now so astounds you and makes you and many another, at the sight and constant society of your darlings, ready to do without either food or drink if that were any way possible, and only gaze upon them and have their company. But tell me, what would happen if one of you had the fortune to look upon essential beauty entire, pure and unalloyed; not infected with the flesh and color of humanity, and ever so much more of mortal trash? What if he could behold the divine beauty itself, in its unique form? Do you call it a pitiful life for a man to lead—looking that way, observing that vision by the proper means, and having it ever with him? Do but consider,’ she said, ‘that there only will it befall him, as he sees the beautiful through that which makes it visible, to breed not illusions but true examples of virtue, since his contact is not with illusion but with truth. So when he has begotten a true virtue and has reared it up he is destined to win the friendship of Heaven; he, above all men, is immortal.’

[Anonymous No.10983733]

>>10983620
I am ugly and have a properly tested IQ of >130. Nothing amazing, sure, but it is definitely not on the same side of the Bell curve as my physical appearance.

[Anonymous No.10983744]

>>10983572
Except that's hard to extrapolate to facial beauty and you're being another kiddie pool memer reductionist

[Anonymous No.10983747]

>>10983733
>130 properly tested IQ reporting in. It's actually the best IQ to have. Any higher and you start to lose in productivity. Most people in the 150s and 160s do nothing with their lives.

[Anonymous No.10983750]

>>10983747
didn't mean to greentext lmao

>>10983632
I'm a pro-bullying person. I bullied some kids and I got bullied until I stood up to it. It helped me a lot. Made me a better person.

[Anonymous No.10983759]

>>10983442
Philosophy as semantics. Classic.

[Anonymous No.10983761]

>>10983747
>. It's actually the best IQ to have. Any higher and you start to lose in productivity. Most people in the 150s and 160s do nothing with their lives.

Only by the standards of stupid people, if you're not at least 140 IQ you wouldn't understand. Its like how sub 100 IQ people think philosophy is a waste of time

[Anonymous No.10983762]

>>10983747
I never said anything along those lines. Try again, brainlet.

[Anonymous No.10983771]

Information is not knowledge.
Knowledge is not wisdom.
Wisdom is not truth.
Truth is not beauty.
Beauty is not love.
Love is not music.
Music, is the best.

[Anonymous No.10983789]

>>10983771
Who the fuck is going around saying truth is beauty? Or love is music?

[Anonymous No.10983860]

>>10983789
John Keats, for the former. Shakespeare, sort of, for the latter.

[Anonymous No.10983867]

>>10983789
the greeks, actually

[Anonymous No.10983873]

>>10983867
The greeks were wrong about everything and are only studied for historical purposes.

[Anonymous No.10983886]

>>10983873
Still possibe to find a lot people thither sharing their opinions.

[Anonymous No.10983988]

>>10983762
the greentext was accidental ;_;

[Anonymous No.10984000]

>>10983988
That's not very bright of you.

[Anonymous No.10984008]

>>10983873
>The greeks were wrong about everything and are only studied for historical purposes.
Welp, it seems like it's time for a Novalis thread.

[Anonymous No.10984009]

Something I would put penor into

[Anonymous No.10984025]

>>10983873
there should be a captcha for brainlets

[Anonymous No.10984038]

>>10983620
beuaty and intelligence do not correlate strongly beyond ensuring minimum intelligence ~105-110, they do not track well together beyond that threshhold, just looking at tests scores in college classes this is basically an iron rule. the best scores almost exclusively come from plain ectomorphs. Not handsome mesomorphic beauties. If you disagree i am truly sorry

[Anonymous No.10984045]

>>10984025
Hopefully it would keep all the pre-enlightenment-aboos out.

[Anonymous No.10984049]

>>10984038
>just looking at tests scores in college classes this is basically an iron rule.
classic cope

[Anonymous No.10984067]

>>10984045
keep drinking that dogmatic materialist Kool-Aid faggot

[Anonymous No.10984071]

>>10984038
9/10 with 4.15 GPA here, shut the FUCK up.