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Meursault from The Stranger.

>> No.10977211

good post. have a bump so more people can see your work.

>> No.10977224
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Madame Meursault from The Stranger.

>> No.10977225

>Maman died today, shoot a man to death
>I sleep

>Priest tries to talk to me about morality
>REAL SHIT

>> No.10977242

>>10975527
Couldn't finish this book. Maybe people thought he was cool in the fucking 30s but he came off to me as a stupid teenager

>> No.10977255

>>10977242
People thought it was immature back then too

>> No.10977261

>>10977242
Care to elaborate?

>> No.10977283

thank you based mods for deleting my thread in favour of threads like these

>> No.10977284

>>10977261
His aloofness and apathy seemed forced and phoney.
Nothing matters. Ok, whatever. So why bother helping the pimp be an asshole? His motivation here seems to just amount to being edgy for the sake of it

>> No.10977289

>>10977242
>>10977284
he's meant to be a retarded autistic freak, retard

>> No.10977299

>>10977289
And?

>> No.10977310

>>10977289
I can accept that perhaps that was the intention but Camus didn't succeed in that. The character was too much of a self-insert to be registered as anything truly alien, the whole time I could just see into Camus's own adolescent mind as he came up with every quip and adage

>> No.10977323

>>10977284
As I recall he helps the pump because the pump had never done anything to him personally? Meursault is the completely absurd man, he doesn't really have those kinds of motivations or ideals

>> No.10977329

>>10977323
Pimp*
Apologies for phone posting

>> No.10977359

>>10977323
>As I recall he helps the pump because the pump had never done anything to him personally?

Yeah but fucking why
The consequence of nihilism to anyone who isn't at the mental age of 16 is not just there is no point in being a good person but there's no point in being a bad person either
I would have preferred the novel if he was just a wandering voyeur. As is, its just ridiculous

>> No.10977550

>>10977359
>Why
Because he asked?
You said it yourself there's no point, good or bad
>>10977310
>Self insert
What makes you think this? Meursault isn't an interesting or noble guy, in fact he's kind of a shitty guy. The only reason we as an audience care about him is because he's our narrator. Hes not even a character as much as he is a device to explore the absurd. If you thought he was written to be some kind of super edgy cool guy you're really telling on yourself anon

>> No.10977589

>>10977550
>Because he asked?

Why do it just because he asked, don't be stupid

>> No.10977635

>>10977589
IIRC the pimp asserts that he and Meursault are friends? That's really not the point though, the character is meant to illustrate a point. Meursault doesn't really do anything that isn't asked or required of him.

>> No.10977747

>>10977589
Im sorry you just outed yourself.

>> No.10977757

>>10977635
Except helping Robert was not "required" his association with him was entirely voluntary and he went out of his way to suggest ways he could help him

>>10977747
Not an argument

>> No.10977831

>>10977757
>Asked OR Required
Honestly we can discuss this all day, but there's not much more to it. Again, Meursault is an absurd man, that's the point. It doesn't really matter to him one way or another

>> No.10977879

>>10977831
>It doesn't really matter to him one way or another

Then why do it?

>> No.10977947

>>10977879
Why not do it?

>> No.10977951

>>10977947
You don't need a reason to not do anything

>> No.10978045

>>10977951
And if you were doing nothing then you don't really need much a reason to do something.
But what's the point you're trying to make here? That Meursault, a character literally designed to help illucidate a philosophical question isn't intriguing as a singular character? Because I might just have to refer you to: >>10977747

>> No.10978052

>>10978045
>But what's the point you're trying to make here?

That the fact he's doing arbitrary edgy shit with no motivation absurd or not fails that supposed philosophic allegory
If he's neither interesting or sensical then what the fuck is he

>> No.10978171

Still don't understand why drinking coffee at your mother's funeral can be used in court to prove you're a monster.

>> No.10978208

>>10978171
you can't make sense out of the neurotypicals man

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>>10978171
the point of the story is to illustrate a man on trial for the content of his character as opposed to being on trial for the crime he committed

>> No.10978276

>>10978171
why is he drinking coffee when the funeral was fucking hot huh

Answer that one arab