/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10972348]

When the sun of culture is low, even dwarves will cast long shadows.

[Anonymous No.10972355]

>>10972348
Yeah but like.. don't normal people also cast even longer shadows....

[Anonymous No.10972359]

>>10972348
there's hope for manlets yet!

[Anonymous No.10972360]

>>10972348

Remind me why this clown gets posted 100000x a day? He doesn't know what he's talking about outside of psychology

[Anonymous No.10972367]

If you shitpost into the abyss, the abyss will shitpost on you

[Anonymous No.10972368]

>>10972360
he sounds like kermit what more do you need to know?

[Anonymous No.10972370]

>>10972360
>He doesn't know what he's talking about

Removed redundancy

[Anonymous No.10972374]

Most philosophers throughout history are Peterson tier. There are like five intelligent philosophers total that I don’t have to put down mid chapter because what I’m reading is so insultingly braindead I’m unable to waste any more of my time on it.

[Anonymous No.10972395]

hi memedad can i masturbate please i already cleaned my room thank you

[Anonymous No.10972417]

>>10972374
Its true but those five good ones are worth it

[Anonymous No.10972470]

>>10972370
I despise JP's philosophy and uninformed ramblings like anyone else, but he's definitely an expert in his field of psychology and doesn't really spout nonsense when he talks about psych. It's just nonsense when he extrapolates to shit he doesn't know about.

>>10972374
true but i'd say there's more than 5 lmao

[Anonymous No.10972477]

>>10972374
Who are these men?

[Anonymous No.10972485]

>>10972477
Hume, Kant, Hegel, Heidegger, Wittgenstein

[Anonymous No.10972495]

>>10972485
Good list but i will add my boy spinoza. Tried reading schipenhauer but he smells like a hack tbqh

[Anonymous No.10972496]

>>10972485
>Kant
Top meme friendo

[Anonymous No.10972503]

Sounds like something I'd read on a fortune cookie.

[Anonymous No.10972505]

Well, then who is the smartest dwarf today?

[Anonymous No.10972506]

>>10972496
Ignoramous

[Anonymous No.10972511]

>>10972348
Once I had a therapist who was like Peterson and he honestly was just pathetic. He kept telling me I was depressed because of "critical thinking" but he obviously didn't know anything about it. For him critical thinking was just relativism and that of course was the greatest evil in the world. I tried to explain to him he was wrong but he was a lost cause so I dropped him after a few sessions.
Peterson is a well-meaning idiot who wants to help but doesn't want to lost his privileges in the process. Young people aren't depressed because some postmodernist conspiracy but because of capitalism. If he realized that he could actually be useful, but that's not going to happen. He enjoy his money too much.

[Anonymous No.10972513]

>>10972495

You "tried" reading him, then decided he's the hack?

How are you people so shameless? You just called one of the major philosophers a hack when you didn't even have the stamina to read a single book by him.

[Anonymous No.10972517]

>>10972495
Spinoza is fun but his philosophy was proposterous and wouldn't be refined to serious material until Heidegger

[Anonymous No.10972534]

>>10972374
you deserved trips

[Anonymous No.10972543]

>>10972511
Fuck off commietard.

[Anonymous No.10972551]

>>10972496
We all know the real problem with that list is Hume

[Anonymous No.10972559]

>>10972517
why do you take a sephardite seriously?

[Anonymous No.10972560]

>>10972511
>but because of capitalism

Instantly lost me

[Anonymous No.10972574]

>>10972485
Plato, Nietzsche, Dostoyevsky, Heidegger, Sartre

[Anonymous No.10972580]

>>10972574
> Nietzsche, Dostoyevsky, Sartre

[Anonymous No.10972582]

>>10972511
Yeah, I've known some psychologist like that obsessed with objectivism and structures. Thankful they are a minority.

It's ironic how Peterson by trying to help is attacking what could actually help people. That happens when a psychologist is too selfish and self-centered to listen to the patients. Instead he convince himself the problem is something only he is aware.

[Anonymous No.10972598]

>>10972511
ahahahhha go to school tomorrow

[Anonymous No.10972652]

>>10972348
Care to extrapolate?

[Anonymous No.10972677]

>>10972560
Well I know many of these so called "postmodernists" Peterson loves to demonize so much and I can tell you their problem is not that they don't blindly believe in some objective order. The problem is having to deal daily with the intrinsic unfairness of the capitalistic system. Most if not all of the so called "natural" roles Peterson loves so much only exists because they are needed for a capitalistic society to work but there's no reason to keep doing it if such society is oppressive and makes most of us miserable. A revolution in the way we perceive ourselves and others is needed and Peterson is in the way.
>>10972582
Peterson thinks he's some kind of hero who's going to save us from our own ignorance but he doesn't get we know ourselves and our pains better than he could ever do. He's not a bad man but he's in the wrong and is too arrogant to see it.

[Anonymous No.10972687]

>>10972677
>The problem is having to deal daily with the intrinsic unfairness of the capitalistic system.

AS OPPOSED TO??

[Anonymous No.10972689]

>>10972348
Hes the flavour of the month. He'll be forgotten in 2 years time

[Anonymous No.10972708]

>>10972470
Turns out psychology is a cult
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/scientists-replicated-100-psychology-studies-and-fewer-half-got-same-results-180956426/

[Anonymous No.10972726]

>>10972689
This is true, it takes the slightest investigation to see his theory is full of shit

[Anonymous No.10972773]

>>10972511
>go to see a therapist
>therapist asks me what's bothering me
>tell him I can't be happy anymore after learning the concept of objectivity is a trick of the capitalistic hetero patriarchy to oppress us
>he asks me where I learned such thing
>tell him in my gender studies classes where I'm taught critical thinking
>he tells me well maybe this critical thinking thing is not so good for you because it's important for mental health to have a sense of structure
>tell him HAHAHAHA YOU'RE SO PATHETIC YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT CRITICAL THINKING IS
It seems we went to the same therapist, my fellow retarded anon.

[Anonymous No.10972806]

>>10972726
he even falls into his own argument in certain areas
>environmentalists should just give up trying to save the planet because nature is trying to kill us!
guess that means we ought to stop trying to find a cure for cancer huh? After all, its just natural and trying to kill us

[Anonymous No.10972863]

>>10972806
>I straw man arguments and think im right!

[Anonymous No.10972867]

>>10972726
and what theory would that be?

[Anonymous No.10972878]

>>10972863
>buttblasted Petersondrone
nothing personal kid

[Anonymous No.10972898]

>>10972878
>cant conceive of an argument so proceeds directly to insults
sad, sad pathetic man you are.

[Anonymous No.10972904]

>>10972485
>Kant
lol

[Anonymous No.10972911]

>>10972898
>Doesn't counter my initial argument
>Just sprouts knee jerk logical fallacy reaction

Prove me wrong then

[Anonymous No.10972937]

>>10972511
Capitalism robs us of meaning. But firstly, this only starts when you properly enter the job market (with 20, say) and even if, it seems to me that the benefits of overproduction still outweight the harm. Harm being the living standard in any other form of living we know.
I'm also "against capitalism" but we all know that there's no good alternative.

Peterson is also just an ideology, but I think it helps people. The fact that he's straw manning intering frameworks like postmodernism is sad but we don't need much more of it (postmodernism) anyway. We need something new.

[Anonymous No.10972951]

>>10972937
Capitalism is in need of an update. We can either continue along the continuum of corporate capital or we can try and evaluate and refigure a new form of social capitalism.

Paul Mason has an interesting book on this

[Anonymous No.10972956]

>>10972911
your intial argument was a straw man. You exaggerate his stand point to make it seem he is a fatalist. But thats just predicated on your ignorance, and i detect a desire to detest peterson. A bias, an intention tp dismiss and discredit.

[Anonymous No.10972972]

>>10972956
He has blatantly said that environmentalists are wasting their time, and that the quote I took was direct. Don't try and warp his words.

He generates strawman a lot, all his arguments on postmodernism is proof of this.

[Anonymous No.10972992]

>>10972951
That looks a bit wishful to me.
I'm involved with the the development of decentralized platforms and smart contracts and all, and what started out with a hacker culture is not filled with neo-rich capitalist. As long as money can buy free time, it will always be tempting to play the game as soon as you have any power. I.e. power corrupts and I don't see capitalism be beat without violence. I'm very Zizekian in that sense.

[Anonymous No.10972997]

>>10972972
>>10972972
post modernism is a complex concept and he's over simplifying the aspects he feels are detrimental. Disagree all you want but there are elements within post-modernism that when falling into the wrong hands becomes destructive(as with any ideology) The impact environmentally that any one individual can make is so insignificant it is null. Governments and corporations are the only entities capable of making any significant chance. I suppose people can help guide these entities but only superficially. And no, because its null doesn't mean we shouldn't try to cure cancer, which was your straw man argument.

[Anonymous No.10973023]

>>10972485
Pythagoras, Heraclitus, Leibniz, J.S. Mill, Kant.

[Anonymous No.10973037]

Kant, Kierkegaard, Kennedy, Stirner, Angela Nagle

[Anonymous No.10973042]

Notice how these threads never have any critiques of JBP's magnum opus tome? Strange coincidence, one might say.

[Anonymous No.10973095]

>>10973042
Are you implying that if you don't like someone, you have to find arguments against anything a man produced?

Besides, I think everybody thinks it's a tomb and you gotta take 3 weeks off to start that one - that's why. I'm certain it's interesting, but it's way down my list and I'd guess Peterson makes his most striking points in his lectures already.

[Anonymous No.10973099]

>>10972511

[Anonymous No.10973107]

God, this thread reminds me of that kid in school who kept reminding people the Iraq was for oil and how cool communism is. I hate you all.

[Anonymous No.10973128]

>>10972551
What's wrong with Hume? He's perfectly lucid. His suplex on causality remains one of the biggest pwns in the history of philosophy.

That said, he borrows heavily from Berkeley, whom I respect a great deal more.

[Anonymous No.10973140]

>>10972485
>he can't into Nietzsche
unless you consider him a poet rather than a philosopher, in which case you're excused

[Anonymous No.10973165]

When will JBP address the JQ?

[Anonymous No.10973186]

>>10973107
>everyone who disagrees with me is a gommie :(
go back to your safe space, mutt

[Anonymous No.10973189]

>>10972997
It shouldn't boil down to corporations (who cant be trusted) and governments to try and aid the dying earth. People need to be informed and understand the necessities and complexities of environmental protection and climate solutions. As well limit their own consumption.

But no, now environmentalism is skewed as a "libtard" idea and people rallying around corporate lapdogs like Trump is the best idea because it pisses SJWs off

[Anonymous No.10973196]

>>10972355
That's the tragedy of our situation. Where are the normal people today?

[Anonymous No.10973197]

>>10973189
This. Modern right wingers are too obsessed with 'triggering SJW's'. I mean yea it's funny and all but we're really fucking up the environment here, even if you don't believe in climate change.

[Anonymous No.10973205]

>>10973186
The insinuation was that they are posturing pseudo-intellectuals, actually.

[Anonymous No.10973208]

>>10972485
Moses, Alexander of Aphrodisias, Abelard, Newton, Osho

[Anonymous No.10973217]

>>10973107
Welcome to /lit/, everyone's least favorite subreddit. I miss the days when people here pretended to be Christian apologists instead.

[Anonymous No.10973255]

>>10973165
he already did, explicitly referencing the people who ask the question you just did

tl;dr he says biological difference in IQ can explain their overrepresentations without need to resort to conspiracy theories

[Anonymous No.10973273]

>>10972992
Oh most definitely but its nice food for thought. Mason being old-Labour it is a bit bright-eyed idealist, but really its a theory that so few are willing to flirt with.

[Anonymous No.10973316]

>>10973255
But statistically speaking East Asians outrank every other race and ethnicity when it comes to IQ median rate. And their population far outnumbers the Jewish one.

[Anonymous No.10973318]

>>10972348
Is this a quote by him?

[Anonymous No.10973323]

>>10973318
Never mind

[Anonymous No.10973334]

>>10973217
You mean like 2 months ago?

[Anonymous No.10973348]

>>10972513
You supplied the definition of 'not reading a single book' for ''tried''. You have no idea what that "tried" meant to him, You are a hack as well. Seek change.

[Anonymous No.10973436]

>>10973217
We've been raided by leftist for a while now but I think eventually things will go back to normal.

[Anonymous No.10973453]

>>10973436
>hurr durr the problem with these boards are the leftists and not all the /pol/tards
you need to go back, fucking imbecile