/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10953520]

ITT: God-tier self help books

[Anonymous No.10953526]

[Anonymous No.10953547]

[Anonymous No.10953550]

>>10953526

[Anonymous No.10953551]

[Anonymous No.10953560]

My vote.

[Anonymous No.10953567]

absolutely patrician

[Anonymous No.10953572]

>>10953547
horrible... pointless. no substance.

[Anonymous No.10953577]

>>10953572
>m-muh substance

unironic brainlet-tier

[Anonymous No.10953587]

>>10953572
>laughs at you in sarcastic ancient Chinese silence

[Anonymous No.10953594]

>>10953577
>>10953587
Care to extrapolate?

[Anonymous No.10953596]

>>10953551
Bought it 6 months ago, still haven't read it rofl.

[Anonymous No.10953599]

I didn't know lit read self help books. Always thought that you guys would think they are pleb.

Tony Robbins changed my life

[Anonymous No.10953608]

>>10953572
better get back to your Harry Potter Collectors Box Set mate, you're falling behind in your reading group.
reading YA for the plot and then discussing how DEEP it is is the best, amirite?

[Anonymous No.10953613]

>>10953594
HE DID IT AGAIN! THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

[Anonymous No.10953615]

Man's Search for Meaning.

[Anonymous No.10953624]

>>10953520

[Anonymous No.10953626]

>>10953596
Same desu I just posted a book image, hoping for a (you).

[Anonymous No.10953627]

>>10953520
Mein Kamph

[Anonymous No.10953634]

>>10953577
>>10953587
>>10953608
okay let me explain

the book has some nice quotable lines like "a man who stands on his tip toes will never stand firm" (arrogance bad) but these metaphors are pretty shallow most of the time and have no legs to stand on

the other thing is, equating things to nature is a terrible way to make a point. you can't just say that rulers should act like rivers because rivers do this or that. it's not even a naturalistic fallacy to do this, it's just nonsensical.

finally the idea that doing nothing and letting things be is useful only in keeping cool, but in real life, try "doing nothing" when you have rent to pay and don;t wanna die of boredom

[Anonymous No.10953639]

>>10953599
Actual self-proclaimed "self-help" genre books ARE pleb. Even the best of them are just watered down ancient concepts for the masses.
The real self-help books are those that explore the truth while having the benefit of being therapeutic.

[Anonymous No.10953640]

>>10953634

[Anonymous No.10953753]

>>10953551
How is this self help. I picked it up from the store today. I thought it was a story about pre WW1 Europe thought the allegory of an infirmary.
>>10953615
Based
>>10953639
I like Tim Ferris' stuff, his books are more like talking to a successful uncle than some greasy cult self help peddler.

[Anonymous No.10953984]

>>10953596
>rofl
Thanks for the shot of nostalgia

[Anonymous No.10954205]

Bunch of filler but it's important to understand habit. Just read a summary.

[Anonymous No.10954213]

why does /pol/ need to invade and pollute literally every other board?
just stay in your containment board and complain all day long. no need to make other indisposed as well.

[Anonymous No.10954234]

>>10954213
>muh /pol/ boogeyman
Why? Because of evola.
Go back to >>>/r/eddit

[Anonymous No.10954247]

>>10954213
Books contain a variety of stuff, which are sometimes politics related. Deal with it, kiddo.

[Anonymous No.10954253]

>>10954234
I like how /pol/los pretend they aren't all redditors

[Anonymous No.10954255]

>>10954213
OP here i never go on /pol/. Just because someone likes a right-wing author doesn't make them a polack.

There have been many classic books, poems, and plays that feature jew-hate as a theme. We should be free to discuss these works alongside all the other great literatures of the world.

[Anonymous No.10956024]

>>10953526
worked for me

[Anonymous No.10956074]

Also
see his dynamics of faith to see him piss off the atheists

[Anonymous No.10956129]

>>10953634
Sounds reasonable to me. Tao Te Ching is in my to-read stack, but I’m not expecting much.

[Anonymous No.10956602]

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[Anonymous No.10956614]

>>10956129
>literally the basis of all eastern philosophy
>"i'm not expecting much"
sometimes this modern world forces me to just cry myself to sleep and hope i black out, painlessly during the night, never to wake up again

[Anonymous No.10956631]

>>10953634
>the other thing is, equating things to nature is a terrible way to make a point. you can't just say that rulers should act like rivers because rivers do this or that. it's not even a naturalistic fallacy to do this, it's just nonsensical.

Is this the power of autism?

>”Your eyes are as blue as the sky.”
>”What do you mean? My eyes are clearly a different shade of blue! Also the sky isnt actually blue, it’s just an optical illusion.”

[Anonymous No.10956633]

>>10956614

Is this pepe based on Harold Bloom?

[Anonymous No.10956636]

>>10956614
>>10956633
lol has got to be

[Anonymous No.10956638]

>>10953634
Anon, you might want to look up the definition of a metaphor.

[Anonymous No.10956647]

>>10956614
Eastern philosophy isn't philosophy

[Anonymous No.10956653]

>>10956647
hah

[Anonymous No.10956665]

It is a shame the sort of fetishization brought up around Weil here. She had an absolutely beautiful understanding of the human spirit, an understanding with the sort of depth and intensity you rarely see.

[Anonymous No.10956690]

>>10953634
Cause Fucking Tao Te Ching isnt about arguing meaningless language games like western philosophy. It’s wisdom. The aphorism you quoted isn’t about not being arrogant or whatever specific thing you might come up with. It’s a universal lesson. It’s something that will always turn out to be right regardless of any situation. It’s something that you’ll find to be true in life, something to live by, not academic gymnastic trying to prove to you that “we’re just brains in a vat bro”. It’s observation of the order of things. The book never makes an argument, because it doesnt require it. It’s all sharp observations that will always be true.

[Anonymous No.10956721]

>thread is empty

[Anonymous No.10956725]

>>10956690
3000 years of intellectualism absolutely BTFO

[Anonymous No.10956730]

What would you suggest for nerves/anxiety?
I was recommended The Power of Now but it didn't really resonate, I just can't take the new age stuff about energy vibration levels and being able to live forever seriously.

[Anonymous No.10956740]

the only one you'll ever need

[Anonymous No.10956749]

>>10953520

why is there an asian man in the black triangle under the tigers front teeth

[Anonymous No.10956753]

>>10956749
why are there asian men under the eyes? is this racist?

[Anonymous No.10956775]

>>10956665
Based Weil poster

Gravity and Grace is an event

[Anonymous No.10957774]

Wouldn't call it selfhelp exactly but it is helpful alright.

[Anonymous No.10958150]

>>10953624
This is great, always cheer me up on a busy nonsensical day.
Also:

>>The Great Courses

Amazing content , unbiased, pure.Just look it up.

[Anonymous No.10958469]

>>10956690
Nah. I'd say it's an aesthetic and mentality, that reading and contemplating upon allows you to internalise. It's not really wisdom because it doesn't fit the whole of its definition, only a component and in a different way, as though the component it fills was a mere coincidence, a side-product. That's why I called it an aesthetic, more than knowledge or wisdom, that's what it is. It's a certain method of conveying and hammering down a desired way of thinking. Which is why it requires practice on the reader's part, not just a simple reading. It doesn't supersede or compete with other forms of literature and philosophy. It is its own. Much of Eastern philosophy does a similar thing and all of it requires practice, rather than simple reading and thinking as in the case of Western philosophy. But in the case of Taoist texts, there is a certain purity to this 'method'. Personally I think that 'certain purity' amounts to useless obscurantism and is a result of destructive intellectual elitism, but yeah. Eastern philosophy generally mixes 'plain reasoning' with this conveyance of aesthetic. So you have very plain points and thoughts to grasp, but they are used as a vehicle for the aesthetic. Whereas for Taoism the 'plain points and thoughts to grasp' are generally nonexistent.

[Anonymous No.10958535]

>>10953520
pic unrelated

[Anonymous No.10958593]

>>10958150
>The Great Courses

Seconded. Exceedingly entry level and readers digest boomer tier, but their focus on selling wine tasting lectures to the remaining boomers who still own VHS players means they have somehow avoided becoming overly politicized and they continue to produce great introductory level content on a variety of subjects.

[Anonymous No.10958605]

>>10958469
>thoughts to grasp

you fucking up B

[Anonymous No.10958617]

>>10958593
the modern scholar was better but it looks like they dont make classes anymore sadly, but tms was priced wrong, they charged as much as tgc but for a class thats only 8 hours long sometimes less

i would say tho that great courses is definitely become more reactionary these days, that one a globalization that came out a couple months ago was total neoliberal horseshit, and that capitalism vs, democracy one that came out last weeks is "ok" but they claimed they made it in response to people requesting a socialism version of the "thinking about capitalism" class but instead of doing a survey of socialist thought, they spend half the lectures making fun of how shitty the soviet economy was, ok fair enough but i dont think thats what people were asking for

the "very short introductions" audiobooks are still the best audio intro to university level material, and the most "authentic" college experience

[Anonymous No.10958758]

will any of these teach me how to get some gash?

[Anonymous No.10959728]

Is there a sort of book written for actual autistic people perhaps, on how to interact with other humans?
Basic body language, things to say, what's polite, things that are and are not socially acceptable, how to make small talk et cetera

Maybe this will become a thing a couple years from now, I feel like as a society there are more people who retreat and end up with 0 friends and no people skills
Might just be my internet bubble talking though

What I'm wondering about basically is a guide book on how to act normal

[Anonymous No.10959749]

>>10958617
>>10958150
>>10958593
Do you guys have any specific favorites among the courses?

[Anonymous No.10959781]

>>10953624
a classic

>>10953520
it is self-help, but to really understand it (even on a superficial level), you'd have to be pretty familiar with a lot of the history of philosophy. the same is sort of true for stirner, but i think a complete novice can get a lot closer to what stirner is trying to say than what evola is ultimately driving at.

>>10953550
a good entry into philosophy

>>10953560
campbell is sort of interesting, but not really my thing. eliade is a better choice, even if it's just the sacred and the profane

>>10954205
nope

>>10956602
very comfy good read, though not sure it qualifies as self help

>>10956074
this looks interesting

>>10959728
unironically take a public speaking/corporate etiquette class or something. i work for a v. large corporation and my "class" took all these trainings together where they teach you to make eye contact, fix your posture, not up talk, speak with authority, not use verbal crutches, etc. i wasnt autistic to start, but it still helped

[Anonymous No.10959789]

>>10953634
I love you. You're absolutely right. Shame on the fools who can't see the difference in merits. "Rise like a tiger" Me? A TIGER? WOoow

[Anonymous No.10959816]

>>10959728
RSD the blueprint.

[Anonymous No.10959837]

>>10958758
Depends on what your issues are. Self-deception seems (to me) to be the most common culprit for incelism.

Learn to discover certain truths about yourself; not all of them will be negative truths, you may actually discover that you are stronger in some ways than you think, while in other ways you are weaker than you think. I would bet that you are stronger in the realm of self-improvement than you think.

[Anonymous No.10959841]

>>10953634
Simply by observing nature long enough, and observing humanity long enough, you will see that there is true wisdom in the book.

But it may not be the entry point into wisdom for you. There are many entry points. Find one that works for you.

[Anonymous No.10959975]

>>10959728
https://www.succeedsocially.com/

[Anonymous No.10960073]

>>10956730
Unironically Alan Watts helped me a lot. He gets memed but his stuff is very comfy and he's very approachable (if you're a Westerner). Helped me to find more peace in things

[Anonymous No.10960110]

>>10959749
There courses 'The Modern Intellectual Tradition' and 'The Modern Political Tradition' are both sufficient overviews of modern thought. They both serve as fairly comprehensive gentle introductions to modern western thought, well get you grounded and well orientated enough to start perusing more complicated sources without feeling totally out of your depth.

They have a course on sentence construction that I have just started and am enjoying. I am also going through their introduction to formal logic course.

They have a streaming site now that you can subscribe to instead to for around the same price as netflix. This is an entirely better option than blindly buying a course outright.

https://www.thegreatcoursesplus.com/home

To repeat: just keep in mind that everything they make is created with the assumption that the viewer is mostly ignorant on the subject, so if you are already familiar with a given topic you may not get much out of one of their courses on it.

[Anonymous No.10960151]

>>10953599
Same here.

>>10953639
>The real self-help books are those that explore the truth while having the benefit of being therapeutic.

Can you provide examples? I'd be interested in reading them.

>>10953520
Think and grow rich

[Anonymous No.10960274]

Any good books for someone who needs therapy/cbt but can't afford it at the moment?

[Anonymous No.10960297]

The best self-help books is a book about how shitty self-help is. Reading that would finally give you some confidence in yourself.

[Anonymous No.10960329]

>>10960274

The Chimp Paradox by Steve Peters. It helped cure my years long depression in about a week

[Anonymous No.10960366]

>>10960329
Looks great, thank you.

[Anonymous No.10960375]

>>10956614
Calm down edgemaster. The reason I’m not expecting much is because it is clearly a work that, if the reader isn’t careful, can allow for a great deal of self-projection as to its meaning.

I’m trying to read it somewhat alongside Neumann’s Origins and History of Consciousness and Peterson’s Maps of Meanings, to best keep in mind the less literal meaning of its passages.

That being said, five passages in and I’m not impressed.

[Anonymous No.10960393]

>>10953526
>>10953550
>Do you want to live "according to nature"? O you noble Stoics, what a verbal swindle! Imagine a being like nature - extravagant without limit, indifferent without limit, without purposes and consideration, without pity and justice, simultaneously fruitful, desolate, and unknown - imagine this indifference itself as a power - how could you live in accordance with this indifference? Living - isn't that precisely a will to be something different from what this nature is? Isn't living appraising, preferring, being unjust, being limited, wanting to be different?

[Anonymous No.10960415]

>>10953526
>>10953550
Reading the stoics without reading the nichomachean ethics is like putting on your shoes before the socks.

[Anonymous No.10960420]

>>10960415
>muh socks
grandpa it's summer..
you don't need to wear your fedora and ill fitting blazer either

[Anonymous No.10960459]

>just bought RTT
postie can't come soon enough

[Anonymous No.10960522]

>>10953567
Explain this please

[Anonymous No.10960566]

>>10960393
>virgin NEETchi vs chad emperor

[Anonymous No.10960861]

>>10960522
http://www.angel.net/~nic/askitiki.html

[Anonymous No.10960887]

>>10956611
What's wrong with it?

[Anonymous No.10961170]

>>10960393
damn though

[Anonymous No.10961191]

>>10960566
>responds with impotent self-hating /r9k/ meme to transcendent dionysian rage born in the mouth of draconic arean flame

[Anonymous No.10961209]

>>10957774
Hi sean

[Anonymous No.10961306]

>>10953550
Enchiridion of Epictetus or go fuck your mother

[Anonymous No.10961327]

>>10959781
You only really need to understand Kant, Stirner, and Existentialism. Deep understanding is a tall order, but enough to grasp the book is a few hours on Wikipedia.

[Anonymous No.10961343]

>>10960393
While I love Nietzsche I will always be at a disagreement with him here. The assertion that the stoa is the natural path for humans to follow is not the same as naturalism. This reads more like a critique of cynicism.

[Anonymous No.10961365]

>>10961343
The critique fits in his larger hatred against life-denying philosophies such as Schopenhauer's and christianity. I think he has a great point. There is something very un-human about stoicism. I remember Epictetus's advice in the Enchiridion about coping when a loved one dies being something like "just remember it's just another human." I think stoics blunt the human experience, while Nietzsche advocates embracing life completely, both the highs and the lows.

[Anonymous No.10961367]

>>10960566
Imagine not seeing Nietzsche's love for Rome above his distaste for Stoics