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Comte De Lautreamont
4 April 1846–24 November 1870
We share the same birthday, and he lived to be 24. I am 24 this year. When I read ''Les Chants de Maldoror", I realized it would be futile to put myself into writing because poetry had reached its epic failure/triumph. I am going to kill myself this year, on November 24. I was going to kill myself regardless, but this coincidence has given it a little extra flavor I guess.

>> No.1093014

Do it on some live webcam site.

>> No.1093021

>>1093014
why? fucking cunts like you stare death in the face everytime you eat your daily 50 piece chicken mcnugget set, what would shock you now?

>> No.1093027

nov 24 is my mom's birthday

>> No.1093023
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>>1093021

Also, it's not about being shocked, it's about laughing of you.

>> No.1093029

>>1093027
what are you going to get her?

>> No.1093032

>>1093023
>laughing of you
>of you
>of
morons. i am mad. im constantly mad and disgusted etc. why else would someone kill themselves?
anyway...i just think that god was telling me something. I read Maldoror and it was instantly my favorite book. Then I found out Lautreamont had my same birthday and i thought..pretty cool..and then when I found out that he died at 24 I felt like it was fate.

>> No.1093033

>>1093029
maybe he should finally do the dishes and go to bed on time instead of trolling /lit/

>> No.1093035

>>1093029
i dunno i usually don't get her anything my dad buys her some lotion or perfume or something

>> No.1093036

>>1093032

Then shut the fuck up and do it live, on webcam.

>> No.1093043

you should probably consider actually trying to write before deciding it's futile.

therapy is also a good thing.

but, hey, just a thought.

>> No.1093044

I was kidding bro. Don't do it. You called me moron and then admit you believe in god. You're obviously the moron. Also, you obviously need help if you believe in faith enough to kill yourself. Go see some kind of psy, it'll help you.

Oh and, it was a pretty awful book. Read more, you'll find a better one.

>> No.1093058

>>1093044
you didn't read it.
i believe in god and curse god, i am no coward who clings to atheism to assuage the feeling of loathing that i have for my creator. only morons switch to atheism by default when they've decided that the word is sheeple and they go crawwwwllliiing iiinnn theirrr skinnnn. the kind of faith i have is expressed by this book, which if you had actually read it, instead of maybe looking at it and deciding you couldn't, you would know. my guess is that you haven't read it. either way, you shouldn't discuss things of which you have no knowledge.

>> No.1093080

>>1093058

Tu parles français? Je l'ai carrément lu en français, l'ami, et ai quand même jugé que c'était un mauvais livre. Mal écrite en tous cas, avec des idées absurdes. Tous les artistes inspirés par ce livre (Breton en particulier) se sont par ailleurs révélés être mauvais (Aragon faisant figure d'exception). Je ne juge par ailleurs pas ma conception du monde et du théisme sur un livre. En d'autres mots, je ne suis pas un imbécile.

Translation: Do you speak French, buddy? I read it in French and still thought it was awful. Well, poorly written, at least. With poor ideas also. All of the artists who were inspired (Breton most of all) by him also were poor (Aragon being an exception). Also, I don't base my theist beliefs on a single book. In other words, I'm not an idiot.

>> No.1093098

>>1093080

Nice job using an online translator.

>> No.1093117

>>1093080
Nice google translation. The book didn't inspire anyone except breton I'm guessing anyway you clearly don't get humor. I'm pretty sure you're wasting your time, pretending to do things and be someone that you aren't. I didn't say that I based by ''theist beliefs'' on anything, as they are manifestly truth and not beliefs. You're just missing the point that sometimes people see themselves in books that they read, and I doubt you've experienced this because you probably don't read much. You came on /lit/ to troll (flo-rida best poet) and poorly at that. ''I read it in the original french and it was awful" yeah, probably because you don't speak french. You really just didn't understand it, or you would be able to elucidate your criticism at least a little bit.

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>>1093080
>l'ami
>buddy

>> No.1093138

Quelqu'un ici parle français, histoire de confirmer mon statut francophone à ces autistes?

>> No.1093150

>>1093138
if you speak french, you do it poorly. this still doesn't indicate that you have read the book.

>> No.1093158

>>1093117

To keep on with the ''debate'':

I felt exactly what you describe while reading both The Stranger and The Rebel. I didn't become a smoker just to be like Camus though. Just don't kill yourself. I did (obviously) come here to troll, but there's serious buisness at stake here. I know when to be serious.

(I truly speak French by the way, and I truly have read Les Chants in French).

>> No.1093163

>>1093150

I got a refutation of the Kreutzer Sonata published in a literary magazine. I, of course, had written it in French. Nice attempt though.

>> No.1093176

>>1093158
I am not going to kill myself to be like Lautreamont, but when affixing a date to your own death it can sometimes feel arbitrary. The parallels between our lives made me reconsider the date. that is all. the book isn't awful, i have no idea why you would say it is, and go on to say you like The Stranger and The Rebel when The Plague is Camus' only great novel.

>> No.1093181

>>1093163
I got a critique of Deleuze's Desert Islands published in a literary magazine and it was in Romani dialect.
(fun to lie, isnt it?)

>> No.1093185

Whether you're serious about this or not...

don't kill yourself OP. i don't want you to die.

>> No.1093189

>>1093163
And what magazine is that? I can be all tough on the internet and mention the same thing while hiding the fact it was published on the monthly boyscout magazine.

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1093191

Yes, I have some unthinkable secrets to tell you about the Comte de Lautreamont...

>> No.1093194

>>1093176

Why don't you just go see a psychologist? I'm trying to help. I thought you were trolling at first, so I counter-trolled, but you're obviously not and I'm not since I realized it, thus I won't reply to your poor attack. The Rebel and The Stranger are the two best books ever written ;)

>>1093181

Your doubts just make me prouder about it.

>> No.1093198

>>1093189

http://www.nuitblanche.com/

It's only published in Quebec, so yeah, it doesn't prove I'm the best French writter ever, but it at least proves I'm not so bad at it.

>> No.1093206

>>1093194
The Plague is better than the Stranger by like 9001. In the stranger, you get nothing but an exposition. The Plagues actually defines in its negative space what Camus value/ethic theory was all about, and it does so in a much less blatant way than the Stranger. ffs you gotta be kidding me. Also, the stranger is like a much weaker version of Journey to the end of the Night or Le Feu Follet.

>> No.1093213

>>1093198
It's a start. Good for you, bro

>> No.1093215

>>1093206

I recognized myself and loved The Stranger because of Meurseault. We're the same person. We had to read it in school and my whole class (teacher included) thought so.

The Rebel expresses my view about life.

>> No.1093219

>>1093213

Yup, thanks. I wasn't saying that to get some praise though, just to answer to the fucktards who thought I used google translator to write my tirade.

>> No.1093220

>>1093215
If we're all gonna be French literary characters in this thread I'm Pere Ubu.

>> No.1093222

>>1093220

Dips on Dom Juan. What? I never said anything about Meurseault. That's just silly from you.

>> No.1093224

>>1093215
Well, I understand that I guess. I loved the Stranger as well, but when I read the Plague I felt like it was finally clear to me why Camus was considered great. The thing is Les Chants de Maldoror expresses my views on life but in such a different way. The dogs--the petty violence of everyday life (vaneigem also expressed this though without poetry); the hermaphrodite (clinging to life from cowardice, but in love with death or with narcotics); the shipwreck--my feelings on politics or passions of any type really a sort of melancholic passivity or disgust just beyond the cusp of apathy. How i wish to see all of it die and would yes shoot even the survivors. Maldoror's pact with prostitution--how i feel for love, my love for the lowest for the most untrustworthy. etc. etc.

>> No.1093227

>>1093220
Ubu Roi XD that play was for the lulz

>> No.1093230

>>1093224

That's not the point anymore. The point is : don't kill yourself.

>> No.1093235

>>1093227
The last Ubu play is funniest.
OP should read Moravagine by Blaise Cendrars if he's on a kick for nihilistic French characters to base his life upon.

>> No.1093238

>>1093230
maybe i won't. i have shit...holding me back. a girlfriend and my family (my younger brother shot himself not too long ago and i think me doing it would pretty much fuck my parents self-esteem but then again they liked him more so who am i kidding?) either way, i want to..but it might not happen. if i don't do it then, then it will just be on some random, later date. i really don't see the point of living into my 30s 40s etc.

>> No.1093240

I'll even tell you why (it involves my own life story, sorry 'bout that).

First of all: your problem is obvious. You hate the world. You feel like you weren't born in the right era, etc. Guess what? I also do.

I thought of killing myself seriously and was about to until a French teacher saved my life. She said I was the most talented writter she had ever had in a class but that she just couldn't understand how could I not give a fuck about school that much. I told her why, she told me ''droppout of school, go find a full time job and travel around the world''. Read all you can read, and then attempt to become a writter.

So here I am, working in a fucking factory, waiting to have enough money to leave this fucking town I hate so I can see the world and write the book I always dreamed of writing and, most of all, alive.

>> No.1093244

continued.

So just live your fucking dreams and forget about the world you hate. At least try

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>>1093240

>> No.1093251

>>1093240
lol emo fag

>> No.1093253

>>1093247

I think there's one hidden behind that kind of bar. That's OP. Lucky me, that's the person I wrote that for. I might be wrong though, if so, fuck you OP, you just made me waste my time.

>> No.1093257

>>1093251

Guilty. Not in the emotrend way, but I do have emotions.

>> No.1093259

>>1093253
>fuck you OP
oh yeah, just drive the poor bastard closer to the edge, why don't you?
you sick fuck

>> No.1093262

>>1093240
anyway, I like this outlook. I have been thinking of going to india in a year, and yeah you don't have to save your money for too long, because the best laid plans go to waste. That is kind of like my ''backup plan'' I guess. I want to go to the east and be like a pilgrim/monk so to speak. I'm actually glad there is another person who feels romantic feelings and has dreamy dreams. op here btw. tbh it is my idealism that got me to this point, so be careful.

>> No.1093263

>>1093257
no it's def in the emotrend way

>> No.1093273

>>1093262

I get called an idealist three times a day. I'll be careful.

>> No.1093280

>>1093198
Quebecfag ici. Peux-tu poster le lien dudit texte?

>> No.1093283

>>1093280

Uniquement publié en version papier. Je peux te l'envoyer via word par contre, à condition que tu laisses trainer une adresse email.

>> No.1093293

>>1093283
Je vais passer mon tour pour laisser traîner mon adresse sur ce site. Merci quand même.
Par curiosité, tu es dans quel coin?

>> No.1093301

>>1093293

Montréal. Tu peux créer une fausse adresse email si t'es réellement curieux par contre, puis confirmer aux autistes que 1) je parle français 2) j'ai été publié.

Mon tour d'être curieux : Étienne?

>> No.1093303

I like how the tripfag went to "Do it on cam!!!1! Do eeeeet!!!" to "Excuse me sir, but I've been published in a literary magazine, I do speak French, and I have emotions!"

>> No.1093313

>>1093303

See this.

>>1093194

>> No.1093316

>>1093301
Bon, si ça t'importe.
For the two other people in this thread: he really does speak French.

Qui demande?

>> No.1093317

>>1093044

This being a trollcheck.

>> No.1093319

>>1093316

Bah, Alexandre.

>> No.1093324

>>1093319
Mais encore?

>> No.1093327

>>1093324

Si ça te dit rien, c'est qu'on se connaît pas. Je suis ici sous recommandation d'Étienne XYZ.

>> No.1093333

>>1093327
Curieux, c'est aussi mon prénom. C'est pourquoi j'ai été vachement surpris...

>> No.1093339

>>1093198

>speaks quebecois
>thinks he speaks french

oh you

>> No.1093342

>>1093339

Seriously, though, he must come from a Francophone country. He's spelled his name ending in "re" the whole time...

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>>1093339

>> No.1093347

>>1093333

Sur les 3 québécois qui ''browsent /lit/'', deux s'appellent Étienne. Curieux ouais.

>> No.1093349

>>1093342
it's the same fucking thing with a different accent. he's probably from France and butthurt because they're slowly becoming a muslim country.

>> No.1093359

>>1093347
Si tu doutes, je ne connais aucun Alexandre et je n'ai jamais parlé de 4chan à quiconque...

>> No.1093355

I'm from Montreal, which is slowly becoming a muslim town.

>> No.1093362

>>1093359

Aucun doute, juste une confirmation de la curiosité de la chose.

>> No.1093369

>>1093362
Et il y a plus que trois Québécois qui browsent lit ;)

>> No.1093399

>>1093369

On doit être très peu quand même je pense.

>> No.1093412

>>1093399
J'imagine, mais j'en ai déjà croisé au moins deux autres.

>> No.1093444

>>1093412

Et il y a seulement sept ou huit gens sur /lit/, donc la moitie sont quebecoises...

>> No.1093461

That's actually pretty cool, OP. I ordered the book yesterday. I'm glad it's powerful enough to influence you like that. If you decide to kill yourself, write the suicide note inside of the book.

>> No.1093481

SUICIDE: A FAILURE TO HATE ENOUGH

>> No.1093502

>Thread filled with French-speaking Quebecfags
>All they do is share terrible opinions about litterature and getting butthurt about everything.

Chu désappoint, fils.

>> No.1093523

>>1093011
OP better quote that section that's something like "they pity the suicide, but they do not envy him" before he does it.